published Friday, July 11th, 2014

The Casket

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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VW will thrive quite nicely without the UAW. They're not needed. Wishful thinking by Bennett. Corker will be reelected easily.

July 11, 2014 at 12:02 a.m.
alprova said...

I don't think the UAW is giving up and it's starting to make some people nervous again. A voluntary union sounds like a nice idea that works very well in many places.

Volkswagen STILL hasn't made any announcements, so all these Republican politicians are up to their necks in promises that have not come to fruition...yet.

Senator Corker's ass is on the line, and even he's got to be getting nervous at this point and time, because Volkswagen isn't following lock step behind all these Tennessee Republicans, and it is funny as hell to witness.

Corker put it all on the line with his involvement in trying to dispatch the union.

I wouldn't want to be where he is at the moment. He's put way too many eggs of credibility into one basket.

July 11, 2014 at 12:27 a.m.
fairmon said...

I doubt VW would recognize any union without the majority of their employees endorsing and joining it. Employees could form an independent union with no UAW association. The fact the UAW can continue any effort so soon after a majority rejection is proof the NLRB is not without bias. The UAW has a lot more to gain than VW employees. No employee has said they voted no union due to any political or other outsider's statements. The UAW uses it as a good excuse for an embarrassing loss and to justify the dues money of current UAW members spent on the campaign to organize a competitor. The UAW fat cats need the increased dues revenue to give them job security which they value more than the job security of VW employees.

I doubt VW will expand their Chattanooga operation with this UAW cloud hanging over them. VW cannot openly oppose the UAW without raising the ire of their European works councils that have no idea of the difference in U.S. and European unions.

July 11, 2014 at 3:15 a.m.
inquiringmind said...

VW wants a union and it absolutely terrifies folks around here who have grown too familiar with the idea of employee-at-will or as it is euphemistically called "right to work" wherein an employer can fire you if he just does not like the way you looked at him this morning. The idea an employee might have a better idea about how to run an operation is alien to folks down here compared to Europe and Japan.

Free your minds, get out of thinking in a rut. Try something new. VW wants to use a union in a new way not familiar to most people in the US.

July 11, 2014 at 6:07 a.m.
Reardon said...

The UAW is smart.

What's the best way to eat an elephant?

One bite at a time.

Any good salesperson knows that getting any sort of small foothold in a large account is the first step to winning to whole she-bang.

If the UAW only gets in the door, it will be a matter of time before they work their way into the account (VW) wider and deeper.

July 11, 2014 at 6:39 a.m.
alprova said...

Inquiringmind has it right...

Volkswagen has approved a second attempt for the UAW to recruit a majority of employees. And while this must be very distressing to Tennessee politicians and other anti-union folk, it's really starting to look like Volkswagen is throwing up the middle finger to meddlers.

USA Today published an article on the matter 3 hours ago;

CHATTANOOGA, Tenn. – "In a move that's unusual but not unprecedented, the United Auto Workers union has sidestepped its loss in a worker vote in February and created a local union to represent workers at the Volkswagen plant in Tennessee."

"And what's surprising, considering decades of fierce anti-union efforts from the other foreign transplant automakers in the South, this time the union had the tacit approval of Volkswagen itself."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2014/07/10/uaw-vw-chattanooga-local/12471533/

July 11, 2014 at 7:05 a.m.
alprova said...

inquiringmind wrote "VW wants to use a union in a new way not familiar to most people in the US."

What's more, VW has a track record of working extremely well with unions and their model incorporating management into the mix of representation is almost unheard of elsewhere in the automotive world.

And you know what? It works very well.

VW WANTS the UAW. They are WELCOMING the UAW. And it scares the hell out of every single anti-union person in this nation, for the thought that unions are not necessarily a bad thing is a foreign concept and it cannot exist in the United States, especially for those trying to take labor relations back a hundred years or more.

July 11, 2014 at 7:14 a.m.
librul said...

GO UAW, GO!!!!

Corker and the capitalist bobbleheads in this forum don't represent the entirety of public opinion - and obviously don't represent the opinion of the folks at VW.

To its credit, Volkswagen does not consider workers as mere chattel but as a vital organ of their business and, while the VW workers do not own any part of the business as they should, they are at least being recognized as needing a seat at the table where their voice can be heard. Such a concept is anathema to a "right-to-work" state and to craven capitalists everywhere.

July 11, 2014 at 7:29 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

IQ says "Free your minds, get out of thinking in a rut. Try something new." Nothing new about the gangster UAW.

July 11, 2014 at 8:01 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

WORKERS OF THE WORLD UNITE! what a load of it

July 11, 2014 at 8:03 a.m.
hambone said...

The thing for VW employees to do is ask themselves why are so many politicians against unions?........ or as someone said "Follow the money"

July 11, 2014 at 8:11 a.m.
librul said...

No, Jacked-up, it's WORKERS OF THE WORLD UNITE, AND LOCK AND LOAD!

July 11, 2014 at 8:11 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

ALPROVA'S latest threat...alprova said...

"That's all you have to say?

Oh well...I have no problem posting the occasional reminder of who and what you are, so long as you refuse to leave me alone.

You're the absolutely most stupid man I have ever encountered online in 30 years."

July 11, 2014 at 8:17 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

30 years?

July 11, 2014 at 8:18 a.m.
tifosi said...

The UAW has been using violence and intimidation for a long time. This has no place in Chattanooga.

July 11, 2014 at 8:40 a.m.
alprova said...

Yes Jack Dana Dennis, 30 years.

My first AOL account was established in 1985.

So...if you want to get technical...29 years, but I rounded it off, which every good CPA knows how to do quite well.

Now go away boy...you're botherin' me and you're unqualified to participate in grown-up discussions, so go have a seat at the kiddie table and play with the kids.

Oh no...maybe that's not such a good idea after all, given your convictions for child enticement history. You'd like that a little too much.

Here's a gun. Blow your brains out.

July 11, 2014 at 8:47 a.m.
alprova said...

tifosi, you once claimed to have intimate knowledge of things going on over at Volkswagen.

I'm not seeing very much evidence of that.

There's no question that you're opposed to the UAW, but you once spoke for the management of Volkswagen, and they seem to contradict you far more often than they support what you claimed in the past.

You seem to be quite on the outside, looking in.

What gives?

July 11, 2014 at 8:50 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

🔫 bwahahaha

July 11, 2014 at 8:50 a.m.
frayne48 said...

Regardless of your position on this issue, Clay's cartoon does capture the moment exceptionally well.

July 11, 2014 at 8:59 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpo, I'm trying to get in touch with Jack Dana Dennis. I want to hook you up with him. He's a mean looking s.o.b.... let me know if he shows up on Steele. Warmest regards.

July 11, 2014 at 9 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

rayne, it is a clever toon.

July 11, 2014 at 9:01 a.m.
GaussianInteger said...

Politicians know how to run a business better then anyone; even the 2nd largest car manufacturer in the world. Once they try to squash the UAW, the TN House is going to approve a bill that would make it a crime to hire any non-Republican.

July 11, 2014 at 9:06 a.m.
alprova said...

Jack Dana Dennis wrote: "Alpo, I'm trying to get in touch with Jack Dana Dennis."

How hard can that be? Just look in the mirror.

"I want to hook you up with him."

I'm not what you are attracted to. You like underage kids.

"He's a mean looking s.o.b...."

Oh...I don't know about that. Throw you a little meth, and I'm sure you're as gentle as a little lamb.

"let me know if he shows up on Steele."

Hhmmmmm....cryptic. Been hittin' that meth a little too hard this morning, eh?

Oh...wait...you've been Googling again. You found the road my brother lived on, 20 years ago.

Good job you dummy!!!

"Warmest regards."

$^& you convicted pedophile.

July 11, 2014 at 9:19 a.m.
tifosi said...

Alprova - You are the one on the outside. Never would have thought you would support violent thugs. Does this run in your family?

July 11, 2014 at 9:26 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpo. Uh huh, you betcha

July 11, 2014 at 9:35 a.m.
tifosi said...

The two of you are just alike. Your party says "bark" and you do.

"Look at my arms, you will find no party hand-cuff on them!" - Davy Crockett.

July 11, 2014 at 9:40 a.m.
alprova said...

tifosi wrote: "Alprova - You are the one on the outside. Never would have thought you would support violent thugs. Does this run in your family?"

You can turn this into a personal thing, if you want, but I think it's much more telling that you refuse to answer my question.

You lied about your level of involvement at VW, didn't you?

No need to answer. Clearly, you're just one of the unfounded rhetoric spewing anti-union morons.

July 11, 2014 at 9:49 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

^^^ Alpo is the go-to guy about lies.

July 11, 2014 at 9:50 a.m.
tifosi said...

It isn't just isolated cases of violence. The UAW has been involved in a long systematic campaign of violence. Anyone that challenges them can expect violence. It will come to Chattanooga now.

http://www.unionfacts.com/ulp/United_Auto_Workers/Violence--Assaults

Alprova approves this message.

July 11, 2014 at 9:50 a.m.
conservative said...

A coffin and this site have a lot in common.

July 11, 2014 at 10:04 a.m.
tifosi said...

You and dogs do too.

July 11, 2014 at 10:19 a.m.
LibDem said...

We are fortunate to have poor boy politicians like Haslam and Corker to protect us from the evil foreigners.

July 11, 2014 at 11:15 a.m.
tifosi said...

We are fortunate to have representatives that recognize the negative effects of the UAW and what it means to our state's economy. I have many years in the automotive sector and know the vast majority of OEM, Tier 1,2 and 3 suppliers will avoid the UAW like the plague. Employees today can readily leave an employer and go somewhere else. Turn-over of employees is very expensive for an employer, so there is already incentive to treat employees respectfully. Too many other opportunities for employees.

July 11, 2014 at 11:25 a.m.

This isn't 1910 when Unions were necessary. Unions are huge corporations top heavy with greedy fat asses who bully union members, and others, and are in bed with polticians. They're not needed.

July 11, 2014 at 11:34 a.m.
timbo said...

Put aside the question of union or nonunion, the deal was already done brokered by Berke. It is that the union would back off, the politicians would back off, and this would make it more likely that VW would put the SUV line here.

After the SUV descision is made, the thought process was that in a year the union could have another election and when that happens Corker and Haslam would back off and not try to keep the union out. The fact that the UAW has already started setting this up is no surprise.

People like Bennett and Sohn are too dumb to have a clue. Also, if they make Corker the Darth Vader of this thing, it gives him more cover when he does nothing to influence the union election.

I know, I know...conspiracy theorist, blah, blah, blah...but wait and see if it doesn't happen. Corker and Haslam have sold us out.

Unions are useless and I have the right to hire and fire because I risked my money and time to develop a business. If anyone else wants to have a say, they can write me a check. To hell with you socialists.

Unions have out-lived their usefulness and now are just a drain on the employee and the companies.

July 11, 2014 at 11:42 a.m.
tifosi said...

The "greedy fat asses" are stockholders. Check your 401K lately?

The SUV decision was made months ago. VW just completed an expansion of the warehouse to accommodate for "future models".

July 11, 2014 at 12:08 p.m.
conservative said...

I worked many years for one of the largest companies in the nation whose employees overwhelmingly were union.

I was not.

The sorriest workers were ALL union. It was the only way they could keep their job.

The only sorry union members who lost their jobs were those who were caught stealing or had many wrecks in company vehicles.

I never once saw anyone fired for poor job performance or tardiness.

Liberals love and join unions!

July 11, 2014 at 12:15 p.m.
timbo said...

Well, maybe...but I think there is a deal.

July 11, 2014 at 12:20 p.m.
tifosi said...

I believe many of the voters were not aware how closely intertwined the UAW and the Democratic Party are. It wasn't Corker or Haslam. It was the billboard that said "United Obama Workers" that caused the most damage. It opened their eyes as to what party their union dues would be supporting. The majority of those working on the production floor are right-wing conservatives. The thought of supporting Hillary Clinton was more than they could bear. I do not ever see a vote passing. I do see certain VW executives trying to undermine the vote and just accepting the UAW in order to get a Works Council. Those execs will not be here to suffer the consequences. They don't care. Just get a Works Council is all they have on their agenda and they will make a deal with the devil to do it. They grew up in a socialist country and they think they will show Americans the right way to live.

July 11, 2014 at 12:29 p.m.
alprova said...

I've got two relatives, both of whom weld for a living. One earns $17.00 and hour, the other earns $33.00 an hour.

Which one do you believe is the union employee? Which one do you believe is trying to get on with his brother to earn what he earns for doing roughly the same job?

Unions are not all bad and the UAW is not all bad either.

July 11, 2014 at 2:14 p.m.
tifosi said...

UAW = THUGS

I thought you said you weren't coming back.

July 11, 2014 at 2:15 p.m.
alprova said...

Timbo wrote: "Unions are useless and I have the right to hire and fire because I risked my money and time to develop a business. If anyone else wants to have a say, they can write me a check. To hell with you socialists."

Number one, I seriously doubt, if you own a business, that you express these thoughts openly in front of your employees.

Number two, if you DO express such thoughts openly, I'm betting you're doing a great deal of hiring, for people probably have little interest in working for you.

I promise you, I have quit some vey good positions throughout the years due to crap like you typed coming from people's mouths.

Life is too short to put up with crap like that.

Way too short.

July 11, 2014 at 2:18 p.m.
alprova said...

tifosi wrote: "I thought you said you weren't coming back."

Changed my mind.

I thought you were a Volkswagen insider.

You can't claim to have changed your mind to that.

It wasn't true to start with, and it still isn't.

Your credibility is on the line like Corker's and the longer it takes for Volkswagen to make their announcements, the more I am convinced it will not be beneficial to this area, at all.

BUT...we'll eventually know one way or the other...

July 11, 2014 at 2:22 p.m.
tifosi said...

The SUV announcement will be on Monday.

July 11, 2014 at 2:23 p.m.
alprova said...

tifosi wrote: "Turn-over of employees is very expensive for an employer, so there is already incentive to treat employees respectfully."

Then explain the current high turnover rates for Volkswagen.

Union employees don't churn jobs. They are there until retirement.

That Sir, is a fact that you cannot refute from your anti-union newsletter.

July 11, 2014 at 2:24 p.m.
alprova said...

tifosi wrote: "The SUV announcement will be on Monday."

So sez the Chattanoogan, eh? Oh my...I hope nobody is wrong. Lots of people's credibility are on the railroad tracks...

http://www.chattanoogan.com/2014/7/11/280147/Announcement-Due-Monday-That.aspx

You thought I was going to fall for that insider crap, based on your post, didn't you?

Silly anti-union facilitator.

July 11, 2014 at 2:29 p.m.
tifosi said...

Does it say what time? How about 10:15 AM.

Actually I am an anti-THUG facilitator.

Are you still a CPA?

July 11, 2014 at 2:37 p.m.
tifosi said...

For your entertainment Alprova...

Right next to the UAW offices. Hmmm...

The UAW got their jobs back too. That crap doesn't happen at VW.

July 11, 2014 at 2:42 p.m.
alprova said...

tifosi asked: "Are you still a CPA?"

A totally non-relevant question to anything currently being discussed, but I will answer it, although had you been paying attention over the past week, you would not need to ask the question.

The answer is no. Ownership of my former firm has been transferred to a family member and I let my license lapse.

I have absolutely no financial interest in any business at the current time, due to the fact that I am medically disabled and currently confined to my wheelchairs.

July 11, 2014 at 2:42 p.m.

Apparently TSA is allowing illegal aliens to fly without verifiable ID, Jack. To believe that is isn't orchestrated would be insane.

July 11, 2014 at 2:43 p.m.
tifosi said...

CPA's typically sit in chairs while they work. I guess your union couldn't fix that.

July 11, 2014 at 2:44 p.m.
timbo said...

First of all, I use my name and a lot of people know my business. That "I don't believe you have a business" is the type thing people like you say to belittle someone's opinion you have no answer to.

The "crap" my employees put up with is an average of $18/hr. I pay for their insurance and 70% of their families, they max out at 4 weeks vacation after 10 years, I have 20 employees but 6 make more than $25/hr. If they have a big bill like their car needing repairs, house, etc. I let them borrow from the company with no interest. Not only that, I know them and their families personally and we all help each other when we need to.

I am told constantly by my fellow businessmen I pay too much and give too much. I don't think so for two reasons. 1. I don't want turn-over because my employees have to be highly skilled. 2. It is immoral not to pay a living wage.

It is arrogant people like you that should make me think twice about treating my employees the way they should be treated.

In 1920 unions might have been needed but now with the EPA, OSHA, labor laws, etc. they are no longer needed. You can't get away with mistreating employees. The UAW can't get one thing from VW that the employees don't have.

The bottom line is this, I don't own slaves. It they don't like it at my company, they can leave at any time. The bottom line is that I invested my time and my money and my health to create something that 20 families make a living from. Not you or anyone else has the right to tell me to do anything. What have you done???

Unions are an insult to small businessmen. Not only that, if larger corporations told them to go to hell to start with we wouldn't be dealing with this time after time.

By the way, an indication of how dishonest the union is, is the fact that they couldn't win square and fair so they are trying to find a way into the back door. Par for the course...

July 11, 2014 at 2:45 p.m.
alprova said...

tifosi, do you have any new material? Those videos are rather old and they have been posted by every right-wing anti-union groupie out there.

July 11, 2014 at 2:45 p.m.
alprova said...

Timbo wrote: "First of all, I use my name and a lot of people know my business. That "I don't believe you have a business" is the type thing people like you say to belittle someone's opinion you have no answer to."

Go back and read what I wrote. I did not discount the existance of your business. I discounted the fact that you express such sentiment in front of your employees.

I mean really...are you going to maintain that you refer to them as "socialists?"

"It is arrogant people like you that should make me think twice about treating my employees the way they should be treated."

I'm not sure what to make of that statement, but I expressed not an ounce of arrogance about you and your employees. I think more of you than you're giving me credit for. I know you don't treat your employees as if you considered them to be budding Socialists.

I merely expressed the feeling that you likely keep most of what you posted to yourself, if you know what is good for you.

Now you and I both know that your small business will never be targeted by a union. So I'm totally confused as to why you even mention such a thing or harbor any resentment towards unions when you know you are not going to be bothered by one.

But...don't let that stop any of your anti-union tirades. I know you've got to tout the good little Republican Party line.

July 11, 2014 at 2:55 p.m.
tifosi said...

Plan to start a new business myself timbo. I too will subscribe to your practices. It is important towards building a quality team, that makes a quality product. I won't have room for slackers and it is not fair to those that do work.

July 11, 2014 at 2:56 p.m.
alprova said...

tifosi wrote: "Does it say what time? How about 10:15 AM."

It sounds made up right off the top of your head.

Why would an important announcement not garner a slot at the top of the alloted hour?

PR 101

July 11, 2014 at 2:57 p.m.
timbo said...

alprova....Small business are inundated with trade unions in the building trades.

July 11, 2014 at 3 p.m.
alprova said...

Timbo wrote: "alprova....Small business are inundated with trade unions in the building trades."

Be that as it may or may not be, you've never identified your business as being one targeted by any union in the past.

Why confuse the issue?

Clearly, you don't think very much of unions. I have very mixed feelings myself, but I do not have any desire to see all unions disappear in this nation.

There are some very good unions still in existence, and no one against the UAW can account for the fact that Volkswagen apparently is determined to allow the UAW inside the doors of the plant, one way or the other.

I'm awaiting with bated breath the infamous announcement this coming Monday, that was due a couple of months ago.

Will all this anti-union meddling have been worth it?

I'm not convinced at all that it will be as "insiders" have claimed it will be.

But...maybe we'll know Monday.

July 11, 2014 at 3:27 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpo has the temerity to talk credibility. He is the king of lies on this forum. And he's habitual.

July 11, 2014 at 3:35 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

As I said, liar deluxe

July 11, 2014 at 3:42 p.m.
ibshame said...

Thanks Mr. Bennett - Great Cartoon!! Of course, Flying J Haslam, Bo "Scopes Monkey Trial"Watson, and the rest of that lying bunch should be on that lid with Corker. The UAW is coming to VW and they can't stop it this time. They tried to sucker punch the UAW but instead the UAW simply did the rope-a-dope and knocked them out Ali style.

July 11, 2014 at 4:03 p.m.
tifosi said...

What planet is ibshame on? UAW can open a local chapter in BF Egypt. It doesn't mean a thing to the pharos.

July 11, 2014 at 5:33 p.m.
alprova said...

I'll bet it will mean somethin' in Chattanooga...

July 11, 2014 at 5:36 p.m.
alprova said...

Jack Dana Dennis wrote: "As I said, liar deluxe"

If there is any lie contained in my repetitive posts quoting your words, then they are YOUR lies, are they not?

Do you deny typing your confessions? Of course you do.

You have lied repeatedly in this forum and there isn't a soul who is not aware of it, if they have read your posts.

So how can you, in any conscience, call anyone a liar when any alleged lie contains YOUR words?

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270586 http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270592 http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270593 http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270595

http://www.homefacts.com/offender-detail/TN00513388/Jack-Dana-Dennis.html

July 11, 2014 at 5:39 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Everyone knows it's all bogus. You just continue to make an ass of your self.

July 11, 2014 at 5:57 p.m.
ibshame said...

Jack Dennis the person who is the biggest "ass" is the person that admitted in WRITING in a NEWSPAPER forum to being a child molester as some kind of sick ass joke. Only a real "ass" would admit to so heinous a crime as some kind of rhetorical response. You did that and now you must live with what you did but like most caught doing something stupid you want to blame someone else for your stupidity. Al has said for you to ignore him but you refuse to do so. Since you won't leave him alone then you live with the constant reminder of your stupidity.

July 11, 2014 at 6:26 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

libshame...it was stupid. I'll give you that. But for you to side with that evil, lying bastard is unbelievable. Says volumes about you, bud.

July 11, 2014 at 6:28 p.m.
alprova said...

But...but...but...Jackie...

You still refuse to type the words, "I am not Jack Dana Dennis."

Why is that Jackie? How can you continue to be so stupid?

You're stupid as can be for even insinuating that your lies do not exist, when the simple fact is all I am doing is repeating what you claim are your own lies, and lies you REFUSE to take responsibility for.

How many volumes have been filled because you refuse to tell the truth yourself? Did you lie when you confessed to being Jack Dana Dennis, or not? It's okay...everyone knows you lied.

Why not come clean and admit it once and for all?

Prove there is someone out there more stupid than you.

Right now, you're the most moronic man on the planet.

July 11, 2014 at 6:36 p.m.
ibshame said...

Jack Dennis I'm not siding with anyone just merely pointing out why this battle continues, instead of you just leaving him alone you REFUSE to do so. You're like the kid who refuses to stop picking a fight and each time you get your ass kicked. This is on you, so leave him alone.

July 11, 2014 at 6:49 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

I will leave the liar alone when he posts an apology and retraction. And not before.

July 11, 2014 at 6:53 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpo, I've denied it numerous times. I don't dance to your fiddle. Waiting on apology.

July 11, 2014 at 6:54 p.m.
alprova said...

You've never denied it with your words. Not once.

So, I think we're done for today.

'til tomorrow, moron.

July 11, 2014 at 7:02 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

You don't want an end to it, imbecile. You enjoy the attention. You are once sick Fu%$.

July 11, 2014 at 7:47 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

You guys are living in the past and can't imagine anything new, you see yaw and wet your pants, you don't seem to want to look past the stereotype to how work councils operate.

July 11, 2014 at 8:09 p.m.
tifosi said...

There is no one at Volkswagen that is opposed to a Works Council. Show me one place where that has ever been said. The majority do not want to make a deal with the devil to get it. Would you infect yourself with a cancer to become more energetic?

Stop twisting the truth.

July 11, 2014 at 9:21 p.m.
alprova said...

Jack Dana Dennis wrote: "You don't want an end to it, imbecile. You enjoy the attention. You are once sick Fu%$."

It's nothing but a viscous circle of projection with you. Every time you look in the mirror, I am convinced you begin typing.

I would love nothing more than for you to completely ignore my posts, and then I would totally ignore you. But that's not how you operate, troll, so here we are.

You're absolutely stupid beyond comparison to just about anyone who has ever lived. You remind me of an animal hitting its head on a brick wall, expecting it not to hurt each time.

You have the power to end this anytime you so desire, but I'm convinced that you are so stupid, that the day when I do not post your words that you want so badly to disappear, will never come.

Sir, I can't be the sick Fu%$. You are the one who admitted to being a convicted child predator in this forum.

Step one to recovery is to take responsibility for your own actions and to quit blaming others for what you have done.

July 11, 2014 at 11:05 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

You can end it now. Admit the lie. Apologize.

July 11, 2014 at 11:13 p.m.
ibshame said...

Albert Einstein once said to paraphrase: idiocy is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result. You keep after Al expecting him to apologize for something YOU wrote. It's not going to happen!!

July 11, 2014 at 11:25 p.m.
alprova said...

I will not apologize for a lie I did not first type and that I have not recanted.

If it is a lie, you typed it and you have refused to own up to typing it.

IT IS YOUR LIE. Not mine.

I'm not going around in circles with you anymore.

If you want to refuse to admit you lied in this forum, fine, leave me totally alone, and your lie disappears.

Continue the way you have, and I will post a daily reminder of your stupidity and confessions.

It's just that simple and it's all up to you.

After all the crap you have posted about me, you have some nerve to ever demand an apology without offering one yourself, first.

I don't want an apology however for I know it would never come from the heart. You don't have a heart.

The best I can ever hope for is that you will mind your own business and I'll mind mine, but so far, you're totally incapable of even that.

You are a bonafide Internet Forum troll of the worst kind.

So the Mexican standoff will continue it seems for quite some time to come.

July 11, 2014 at 11:30 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Ibshamed: Feel good about defending a liar. You seem to forget this slug was accusing me of being a child predator long before I jokingly said it was true. So don't give me that "something you wrote" BS. Or the hundred or so fabrications accusing me of being bankrupt. You're riding the wrong pony, pal.

Fat Al, I'll stop when you man-up and apologize. Otherwise more of the same. Much more.

July 11, 2014 at 11:46 p.m.
alprova said...

Hey...that's okay with me. All I've got to do each day is copy and paste.

I don't owe you an apology. Not one. You started this crap, troll.

I will finish it. One way or the other.

You're still whining about the bankruptcy? I've posted at least a half-dozen times, if you are Jack Dana Dennis, then you never filed for bankruptcy.

If you are not Jack Dana Dennis, which you refuse to retreat from, then you might still be the one who filed for bankruptcy.

But who cares? You have bigger problems to deal with today.

You're still clinging to the identity of a child molester.

And you lied again tonight, which is no surprise and I CAN prove it.

I never ONCE called you a child molester until you confessed to being one.

If you disagree with that fact, then I'm sure you'll have no problem digging up the post where I called you one, prior to your "joking" confession on May 18, 2014.

I thought Jack Dana Dennis was your son. He still might be, which explains why you're reluctant to truly identify yourself and free yourself from this identity crisis.

Is that what this is all about? Are you a daddy to a convicted child molester, rather than the man himself?

That was the accusation I offered prior to May 18, 2014, when you amazingly confessed to being Jack Dana Dennis.

You know damn well that if I take your bait and apologize, in some perceived hope that you will suddenly decide to leave me alone, that the opposite would occur.

I would be creating a monster. You would become relentless. Right now I have an edge over you. You're a confessed child pedophile.

It bothers you, but not enough for you to back off of me. So the game continues. I can get real serious and hire someone to investigate you thoroughly for some real dirt, if you insist.

The slug trails you have left on the Internet have been bad enough, but not embarrassing enough. Then again, since you have admitted to molesting kids, I'm not sure you've got a breaking point at all.

Let's see if you do.

Maybe it's time to send someone up to Knoxville, for a look around and to discover the real truth to "THE Jack Dennis."

Don't go pissing off the front porch. Someone might snap a photo or two.

July 12, 2014 at 12:23 a.m.
alprova said...

I know every time I strike a nerve with the troll.

He uses my photo for his avatar.

Jack, you're a fifteen year old trapped in a coffin dodger's body.

You're totally pathetic.

July 12, 2014 at 12:48 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Fat Al, you should be the last one talking about coffin dodgers. You useless f&%@.

July 12, 2014 at 10:25 a.m.
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