published Sunday, July 13th, 2014

The Goalie

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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alprova said...

Oh boy! A cartoon where some can go nuts, which they will, I have no doubt.

Exaggeration time coming right up!!

July 13, 2014 at 12:04 a.m.

Oh, whoa is us, it's just too big to defend, so we just give up and let our country be overrun. Illegal aliens are flying in now. TSA treats citizens like criminals, but all of a sudden they look the other way with illegal aliens as they fly in, and are flown around.

He should show about 15 goalkeepers in front of the net and the ball still going through, or the coach telling them to let the ball in.

July 13, 2014 at 6:42 a.m.
conservative said...

Mr. Bennett got it wrong.

There is no net at the border!

July 13, 2014 at 7:37 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

*Maybe we should bus 'em all to our northern border and let the Canadians share in the love. Worth a shot.*

July 13, 2014 at 7:48 a.m.
MTJohn said...

If we really were a Christian nation, the stranger would be welcome here. And, welcome, not as indentured servants, but as sisters and brothers who are created in the image of the Creator.

July 13, 2014 at 7:56 a.m.
inquiringmind said...

"There is no net at the borders." He sez. Do you think he missed the point of the cartoon? Maybe he just hasn't played soccer to appreciate the size of Clay's goal compared to the reach of the keeper? Or, perhaps, so used to literalism, he can't appreciate reading a 'toon literally buries it's humor wherein it's meaning lies?

July 13, 2014 at 8 a.m.
conservative said...

inquiringmind

Is Jesus God?

Can you make that confession?

July 13, 2014 at 8:13 a.m.
alprova said...

MTJohn...yours is the comment of the Millennium.

This is why I hold that so many fine Christians are not going to fare well on their Judgment Day.

A Society is judged by how it treats its weakest members.

July 13, 2014 at 8:41 a.m.
MTJohn said...

conservative said...inquiringmind Is Jesus God? Can you make that confession?

Conservative - do you make that confession? If so, what would Jesus do about the United States' southern border?

July 13, 2014 at 8:52 a.m.
alprova said...

Connie, the Trinity is not supported by any scripture contained within the Bible, so unless you can support your fallacy, will you please shut up?

You're free to believe as you wish and others are free to believe as they wish.

You are no more right than anyone else when it comes to religion.

Perhaps one day you will learn that.

July 13, 2014 at 8:55 a.m.
fairmon said...

The border could be secured but there is no interest or commitment to doing that. It is not likely to improve with the federal agents about 50 miles inland from the border with instructions to retain and process illegals. It cannot improve with only around 2% of the requested just under 4 billion going to border security. We are a nation of compassion and willingness to sacrifice, redistribute to those in need with no desire to prevent anyone from coming into the country by any means.

Therefore, It is time to reduce welfare to those citizens receiving it in any form including social security, Medicare, Medicaid, disability and other subsidies such as food stamps, housing, cell phones etc. etc. and redistribute to those in need coming to America with a right and expecting to be provided for.

Also, it is time to increase taxes across the board in order to provide sufficient food, clothing, shelter and healthcare to all those crossing the border with Mexico illegally. We can reduce our defense spending, postpone infrastructure work and other needs. We can print and borrow more to assure reasonable hospitality and support to any number that has a desire to come to America. We are a liberal sharing lot and should have no problem making our own personal sacrifice to accommodate those that desire to join the takers in America.

Our veteran's are again sacrificing to contribute to the freedom of those coming here illegally by tolerating under funding for veteran healthcare. Some have given the ultimate sacrifice while waiting on needed healthcare.

It is time a European style top federal individual tax rate of 70%. It is time for American's to be more equally impoverished.

Support the POTUS, write or call your congress person to express your opinion on the issue.

MTJohn said...

If we really were a Christian nation, the stranger would be welcome here. And, welcome, not as indentured servants, but as sisters and brothers who are created in the image of the Creator.

Does your comment mean you agree with the proposed approach to welcoming those entering illegally to become equals to all others in America?

July 13, 2014 at 9:01 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Matthew 28:19

Irony: Alpo, the consummate liar, states "Connie, the Trinity is not supported by any scripture contained within the Bible"...But frequently denies the Bible as the word of God. "About what one would expect from the ultimate lying POS that is Alpo.*

July 13, 2014 at 9:04 a.m.

LOL hilarious how libs pull out the Christian card as justification for lawlessness and corruption. This situation is orchestrated and has nothing to do with BO having a big heart. He's a manipulative narcissist. These illegal alien invaders are being exploited by politicians and our government. Mexico allowing central Americans our borders illegally.

"a society is judged by how it treats its weakest members"

Weakest, like the 60 million unborn exterminated since 1973? Hypocrisy.

If our borders are being manned in greater numbers than ever, according to you libs, then why are illegals pouring through faster, and more than ever over the last 4 months?

This is a manufactured crisis and all we get from BO are jackass remarks and him yucking it as he plays pool and golf. Total disregard for the the safety of US citizens, and for those in this country struggling to get work.

July 13, 2014 at 9:09 a.m.
alprova said...

Fairmon, your diatribe is so full of lies, who knows where to start?

Apparently, you are so confined in that home of yours that you don't get out and live your live a little.

You're hardly alone. There's a couple of others who hang out in here all day, who truly need to get a life.

The world, or more importantly, the nation is healing all around them.

Our economy is healing. Jobs are being created as we speak. The doom and gloom is nothing but lies for those hopeful that a Democrat can not lead this nation out of a recession.

Well guess what? President Obama is going to have lots to boast about by the time he leaves office in two years and a half.

Some of you are in deep, deep denial of that which measures the state of this nation, and that's okay. Most of us know the truth and understand the facts.

The most admirable trait President Obama has demonstrated over and over, is that he is not a step-and-fetch President, who responds to political taunts like those being offered this week by Texas Governor Rick Perry.

If the border is out of control, where is the Border Patrol in all this? Money has been thrown at them. More have been hired. Why are they not doing their jobs?

Why is it that private citizens feel that they must patrol the border?

A bunch of someone's are going to get hurt before this is all over.

But it won't be anyone sounding off in this forum. Those of you adamantly opposed to immigration of any kind are armchair warriors only.

The most militant parts of your bodies are your fingers.

July 13, 2014 at 9:16 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpo says from his wheelchair, "Those of you adamantly opposed to immigration of any kind are armchair warriors only." oh well

July 13, 2014 at 9:19 a.m.
alprova said...

Jack Dana Dennis wrote: "Irony: Alpo, the consummate liar, states "Connie, the Trinity is not supported by any scripture contained within the Bible"...But frequently denies the Bible as the word of God. "About what one would expect from the ultimate lying POS that is Alpo.*..."

Jackie, It's so nice to see you weigh in on something religious. The problem with the particular quotation of scripture is that it encompasses what happened to Jesus when he disappeared from the tomb.

I've never expressed any doubt that Jesus did not rise to Heaven to sit at the right-hand side of God. The Bible tells us so.

Matthew 28:19 mentions nothing in the form of proof that Jesus was God. Prior to Jesus dying his mortal death, no mention was ever made that he was God.

I refer you to John 1:18 - "No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god who is at the Father’s side is the one who has explained Him."

July 13, 2014 at 9:31 a.m.

This is an orchestrated crisis by BO, Mexico, and the various Central American countries. Could it be more transparent? These aren't war refugees, like those that have come here from Vietnam, Bosnia, Iraq or Myanmar. They're coming here from El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, Mexico, and Costa Rica. These countries just want these people off of their hands because their countries are screwed up, and they don't want them anymore. How would other countries like it if we tried to dump the residents of the poorest areas in our country, like those in Appalachia, Detroit's inner city, and Chicago's west side over their borders?

Everyone should be able to come here for a better life, but they should do it the right way, like everyone else has to. BO thinks we're just all here to help him fulfill his agenda. We just have to shut up and take it.

These stupidly run banana republics simply want to dump anyone who isn't well off into our country.

July 13, 2014 at 9:31 a.m.
alprova said...

Mr. Jack Dana Dennis, it is categorically impossible for me to be in any position to lie regarding that which you have admitted to in this very forum.

And because you have AGAIN refused to leave me alone in this forum, here is my obligatory post;

Just the simple facts as you have typed them and refuse to acknowledge.

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270586 http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270592 http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270593 http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270595

http://www.homefacts.com/offender-detail/TN00513388/Jack-Dana-Dennis.html

July 13, 2014 at 9:34 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpo, who lives to lie, is now a biblical expert. Now that's a yuck.

July 13, 2014 at 9:35 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpo, I don't need absolution from you, you little sawed-off supercilious prick. I dare say I've led my life with far more integrity than you. So cut and paste yourself till the cows come home. You're still a lying sack of sh!t.

July 13, 2014 at 9:41 a.m.
alprova said...

OMG!! A self-confessed, three time convicted pedophile is now a biblical expert too. Imagine that...

Mr. Dennis, far be it for you to have the skills necessary to enter into any serious discussion, but how do you explain the scripture I quoted?

Let's see some of that Catholic training.

Explain to me in plain language how it is possible for Jesus to have been God, when John sez it is impossible, for no man hath seen God.

Baptizing people in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, still denotes three separate entities.

Where anyone gets that this is support for the Trinity theory, only proves that there are some very weird people who have absolutely no skills of comprehension.

July 13, 2014 at 9:46 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Well, liar, I guess they're are about a billion out there less intelligent than you. My that was some education you got at the N. Ga Community College. (advanced mathematics!) You're such a lying fraud. And you Catholic bashing reflects your hick background.

July 13, 2014 at 9:52 a.m.
alprova said...

Hee hee hee...Ho ho ho...Haw haw haw.

I knew you'd never be able to gather enough intelligence to be able to explain my scriptural proof that Jesus could not have been God.

It must be distressing to someone like yourself and Connie, that a simple man, with a somewhat meager education that has grown through self-educating, and not derived at our finest institutions, is someone who can offer truisms that can never be refuted.

I read my Bible. I understand most of what I read. I have studied it, always keeping it in the context it is presented.

That way, I never look like a boob whenever arguing the Bible.

It's real hard to argue with John. That quotation is quite clear and it leaves no doubt that Jesus could not have been God in the flesh.

What other planks of your religions are built with Jell-O?

July 13, 2014 at 10:08 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Hard to ascribe any credence to a known habitual liar. Must be a self esteem issue. Which is totally understandable.

July 13, 2014 at 10:12 a.m.
fairmon said...

alprova said...

Fairmon, your diatribe is so full of lies, who knows where to start?

BS.....You are the one needing a dose of reality. What about the proposal do you not like? Is asking you to contribute beyond the point you are willing to help? As your man says, we are all in this together and all must sacrifice.

July 13, 2014 at 10:16 a.m.
alprova said...

You're babbling nonsense through your fingers now. Perhaps you should take a break.

Sir, you could try for a year and never prove me to have offered one lie into this forum.

You would have everyone believe that your confessions are my lies?

You refuse to acknowledge lies that you have offered into this forum a mere couple of months ago and are still offering today.

I am merely repeating them to remind you of them, unless of course it is that they are 100% truths as you have typed them.

Of course, those lies slip into obscurity forever the second you refrain from posting a word in my direction.

July 13, 2014 at 10:25 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpo says "It must be distressing to someone like yourself and Connie, that a simple man, with a somewhat meager education that has grown through self-educating, and not derived at our finest institutions, is someone who can offer truisms that can never be refuted." not distressing to me, Lefty. Quite a feat attaining a CPA via a "meager" education. The lies never stop.

July 13, 2014 at 10:27 a.m.
alprova said...

Fairmon wrote: "Is asking you to contribute beyond the point you are willing to help? As your man says, we are all in this together and all must sacrifice."

I am no longer financially able to do a thing for anyone. But in my past, I gave heartily. Someone is going to have to step up and take my place.

You see...I believe my President. He is doing all he can, as President, to address this situation.

I am not an unrealistic person, who thinks that a President can wave a magic wand and wish all our troubles away, especially when it comes to that which is happening South of the United States.

The kind of crap that you and a couple of others are spewing about the problem, is not helping anyone or anything.

I live in Georgia. I do not live in any of the border states.

I can do nothing to help a soul when it comes to immigration.

I know that the Government has it all under control.

But then, when it comes to kids, I say let them stay here if they want to stay here. I welcome them.

July 13, 2014 at 10:34 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

You alone can stop the madness, Alpo.

July 13, 2014 at 10:42 a.m.
alprova said...

Jack Dana Dennis wrote: "Quite a feat attaining a CPA via a "meager" education."

It was not a feat at all. I completed the required courses, was granted a license, and kept it active for three decades with continuing education.

You make fun of my education, but you never mention where yours was derived from. Maybe my hired dick will provide illumination on that this next week.

"The lies never stop."

Your lies? No they do not. You wish you could run as far away from them as you can get, which currently is about two inches. They are attached to your ankles.

You on the other hand cannot prove I have offered one lie about anything.

Your calling me a liar is in reference to my reminding you of your lie(s).

July 13, 2014 at 10:44 a.m.
alprova said...

Jack Dana Dennis wrote: "You alone can stop the madness, Alpo."

You're demented if you believe I owe you an apology and would retract one word I have ever typed.

Sir, you leave me alone and I will leave you alone.

It is your only choice.

Otherwise, you will remain a three time convicted, pedophile, with proof that you confessed to it, and that proof will be posted one time each day you post in my direction.

July 13, 2014 at 10:50 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpo >>"Jack, your memory is as selective as your recollection of your own confession. And because I'm not a little whiner like you are, I'll not remind you of all your crap. I won the pissing contest. You lost, big time. You may not go away, for now, but you have become persona non-grata. You have no allies here. Your confession sunk your little tug boat. I truly never need to post another word to you. The damage is done. You did it to yourself. 5/30"

Is this the post of a mentally healthy individual?🙀

July 13, 2014 at 10:54 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpo, I will hound you to hell until you post a retraction. Depend on it.

July 13, 2014 at 11:05 a.m.
alprova said...

Jack Dana Dennis wrote: "Alpo, I will hound you to hell until you post a retraction. Depend on it."

What retraction? What do YOU believe I need to retract?

I cannot retract that which you have failed to retract.

You keep hounding me, I keep posting once per day, your confessions.

You'll give up sooner or later.

July 13, 2014 at 11:27 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Unlikely, fat boy.

July 13, 2014 at 11:43 a.m.
fairmon said...

alprova said....I believe my President. He is doing all he can, as President, to address this situation.

It is sad you are brain washed to that point. Neither he or congress is doing all they can due to their fear of political fall out.

alprova said.....But then, when it comes to kids, I say let them stay here if they want to stay here. I welcome them.

Once we have fed, clothed, sheltered and educated those that are children of irresponsible and in some cases responsible American parents that may be a logical thought. People are being affected that had the same safe feeling of not being a border state you have. California will be the first state to file for bankruptcy protection or they will get a federal government bail out. It is easy to see that without knowing their "off book" debts. The straw will be illegal immigrants if the current rate going to CA. is not curtailed.

July 13, 2014 at 11:51 a.m.
alprova said...

Well...you are and I through for today. I'm just going to let you simmer on the back of the stove.

Everyone who tunes in for today knows who and what you are.

We'll see if you feel they need remindin' tomorrow.

BTW - You said you were going to hound me until I made a retraction.

WHAT RETRACTION?

It's like pulling teeth to get a straight answer from you.

You type something and you never follow up.

You're one ridiculous dude.

July 13, 2014 at 11:53 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

You seem to be obsessed with what others think. Stems from your esteem issues, I guess.

July 13, 2014 at 11:59 a.m.
alprova said...

Fairmon wrote: "It is sad you are brain washed to that point. Neither he or congress is doing all they can due to their fear of political fall out."

That doesn't make sense where the President is concerned. He's a lame duck. He will never run for political office again.

We all know Congress is doing nothing and Boehner's little temper tantrum the other evening will haunt him forever.

What can the President do that he is not doing? Declare war on South America? Declare war on Mexico for not stopping them on their end?

What exactly do you believe the President should do that he is not doing?

"Once we have fed, clothed, sheltered and educated those that are children of irresponsible and in some cases responsible American parents that may be a logical thought."

Well you know what? We're simply going to have to do our best, because shoving them back across the border is not an option. They are children.

"People are being affected that had the same safe feeling of not being a border state you have. California will be the first state to file for bankruptcy protection or they will get a federal government bail out. It is easy to see that without knowing their "off book" debts. The straw will be illegal immigrants if the current rate going to CA. is not curtailed."

Let's be sure to discuss it, if it ever happens...okay?

Hypotheticals bore the hell out of me, and that one has been being passed around for two decades or longer.

July 13, 2014 at noon
alprova said...

Jack Dana Dennis wrote: "You seem to be obsessed with what others think. Stems from your esteem issues, I guess."

I just want to be left alone by a determined pedophile troll.

That is the only issue I have.

Jackie...I'm still waiting for you to post what it is I am supposed to retract.

July 13, 2014 at 12:06 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Oh, maybe 2-300 posts calling me a pedophile. You know, things like that.

July 13, 2014 at 12:11 p.m.

"Hypotheticals bore the hell out of me" pompous windbag.

The president can have them fly back to their respective countries. If they can be flown here, and fly around the country, while the TSA looks the other way, then they can be flown home.

To say we can't do anything, and just say oh, well, is idiocy.

July 13, 2014 at 12:11 p.m.

Maybe this is all a scheme to import as many futbol/soccer fans as possible to make soccer our national sport by the time the next World Cup rolls around. Since BO thinks we're nothing special, and that were no more exceptional than any other country, then being soccer obsessed would put us at the same level as Ivory Coast, Paraguay, Luxembourg or Moldova.

July 13, 2014 at 12:58 p.m.

There will be a backlash against this. Everything BO does is crammed down our throats and we have to just accept it. Illegal alien invasion, Obamacare, MO's food choices and a whole hell of a lot more. It is gratifying to see MO's backed school lunch programs being rejected and ridiculed right and left. I read one kid said, "it tastes like vomit" LOL

It's good to see BO get bitch slapped a few times at the SCOTUS.

But he won't stop. Who knows what he'll push on us. How about giving free houses to illegal alien "dreamers" and having it funded by pushing a new tax on citizens. Or, better yet, how about just forcing us out of our homes, and placing illegal alien invaders in them.

July 13, 2014 at 1:10 p.m.
fairmon said...

alprova said...

What can the President do that he is not doing? Declare war on South America? Declare war on Mexico for not stopping them on their end?

He can move the border patrol to the border, use the national guard, state resources and technology such as drones to stop the illegals at the border and return them from whence they came. There are millions in the world, are you saying the U.S. should take them all? If we do and can't provide how are they better off?

This president doesn't know how to do anything except blame others and exclaim it isn't his fault. At one time he explained something with it was just a run of "bad luck". Where is Janice in all this mess she and he created by their past behavior?

July 13, 2014 at 2:04 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Rick Perry says The Organizer did not even know where Border Patrol positions were. can you say detached?

July 13, 2014 at 2:32 p.m.
rengerry said...

Isn't it wonderful how the board's solved immigration, illegal or otherwise? They just can't handle that Obama seemingly won't listen to them. They obviously know how to solve the conflicts, gang wars, crime and poverty the illegals come here to get away from, so why won't he listen?

In the meantime, they have been enjoying the benefits of Obamacare (http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/07/11/upshot/newest-health-insurance-customers-are-generally-happy.html?referrer=&_r=3)

July 13, 2014 at 2:32 p.m.
conservative said...

MTJohn said...

conservative said...inquiringmind Is Jesus God? Can you make that confession?

Conservative - do you make that confession? If so, what would Jesus do about the United States' southern border?

==================================

You have identified yourself in the past as a Liberal so you think like a Liberal.

You will have to explain what the one has to do with another, I don't follow Liberal reasoning very well.

July 13, 2014 at 3:04 p.m.
rengerry said...

Con, you don't follow ANY reasoning very well. Maybe that's why you're religious.

July 13, 2014 at 3:28 p.m.
conservative said...

Strident anti Christ Mr. Anthony Provancher said:

alprova said...

"Connie, the Trinity is not supported by any scripture contained within the Bible, so unless you can support your fallacy, will you please shut up?"

What blasphemy!

What a liar!

He was instructed by the Mormons.

He will suffer in the eternity of hell with them unless he repents.

July 13, 2014 at 3:31 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

Oh yeah Jack, Rick Perry is such a credible source. He couldn't ever remember 3 (not three hundred), but 3 things he would get rid of as president. Perry probably didn't even know that Texas shares a border with Mexico. Perry's a dumbass and anything he says should be taken with a grain of salt.

July 13, 2014 at 3:34 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

ConMan only uses Christianity (his own brand may I remind you) to enforce his political beliefs. If his political beliefs go against biblical teachings, he skews the teachings to fit his political leanings. He is the most un-Christian man I have ever had the displeasure of conversing.

He is a closet homosexual, as well.

July 13, 2014 at 3:37 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

The Church argued over the relationship and identity of the Father, Son, Holy Spirit for over 400 years, a and only when Constantine got so frustrated with the arguing between the East and West branches that he felt it threatened its unity which he needed to instantiate God's blessing on his empire, that he locked bishops from both sides in a room and said don't come out until you have a comm,on confession of what the relationship is, hence the Nicene Creed.

Because of the human urge to quantify even those things that resist quantification, the Church has continued to debate and argue over the significance of these three concepts for the next 1700 years. They have argued to the point that some will make one's definition of the Trinity the litmus test for their human idea of salvation rather than the simple criterion Jesus put forth.

July 13, 2014 at 3:45 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

So gassy, Perry is lying? That what you're saying?

July 13, 2014 at 3:48 p.m.
conservative said...

GaussianInteger

You cannot refute God's word Gausianinteger.

Scripture is plain, no Homosexual/sodomite will inherit the Kingdom of God!

Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. 1 Corinthians 6:9-10

July 13, 2014 at 3:49 p.m.

Guass, you're a fool. Projection. That's what you libs do, you bring up the Bible and Christ in this orchestrated invasion so you can put a positive spin on it.

The solution is this, fly them back to where they came from. Simple as that. Fly them back to Honduras, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Guatemala. Then use the national guard on the borders, and yes, fortify it.

And BO is credbile, Gauss? The man lies or decieves whenever he opens his mouth.

July 13, 2014 at 4:02 p.m.
alprova said...

Connie dramatically exclaimed: "What blasphemy! What a liar! He was instructed by the Mormons. He will suffer in the eternity of hell with them unless he repents."

I too refer you to John 1:18 - "No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god who is at the Father’s side is the one who has explained Him."

That's straight from the Bible Connie. NO MAN HAS SEEN GOD AT ANY TIME. Jesus is the one who has explained Him.

Your story of events does not wash with what the Bible tells us.

You're bearing false witness, hopefully because you have been brainwashed with it. If not, then your intentions are much more vile.

You can argue with me, but you cannot argue with John.

No man has ever seen God. Therefore God could not have been Jesus. It's not a stretch to reach that very logical conclusion.

But you've got to be able to think for yourself to arrive a logical conclusions.

Good luck!!

Oh, and as is always the case, I am wide open for you to utilize the Bible to prove me incorrect.

July 13, 2014 at 4:41 p.m.
alprova said...

Z-man wrote: "The president can have them fly back to their respective countries. If they can be flown here, and fly around the country, while the TSA looks the other way, then they can be flown home."

No the President cannot have them flown to their respective countries. There is a process for how this nation handles illegal immigrants and when it involves children there are even more processes that must be followed.

Simply loading a plane filled with immigrants and dumping them into a foreign airport would violate International law.

I might be a windbag, but you Sir are among the most ignorant armchair warriors in this forum.

"To say we can't do anything, and just say oh, well, is idiocy."

Despite your ignorant assessments, everything is being done to process those illegal immigrants who make it across our borders and who turn themselves in to the proper authorities.

There is a legal process that this nation has had set up for decades, dictating how illegal immigrants are to be processed through our legal system.

Surely you would not suggest that our President or our Border Patrol ignore legal law and circumvent the legal process by which every human being who avails themselves of the system by which they are to apply for asylum in this nation, and merely load them on planes and send them to foreign airports without approval to land in such airports, which is a direct violation of International law.

Where do you people get such stupid ideas from? Comic books?

July 13, 2014 at 4:57 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

I'm afraid Alpy's disease has affected his brain. Seriously.

July 13, 2014 at 5:14 p.m.
alprova said...

Imagine if it were permissible for all the nations south of the United States to load planes full of people and send them to US destinations in our cities.

Surely you know this is highly illegal.

Senator John McCain, a United States Senator, should know that what he is proposing is just as illegal as the scenario I describe above.

No International airport is going to allow a plane full of people with no destination to land at their airports.

Goodness knows there needs to be additional resources derived to deal with this increased influx of underage immigrants who are being sent to our border for purely humanitarian reasons, but the heartless way that some of you people want to deal with this, disgusts me to the core.

Shame on you people!!

Not one of these immigrants will affect your life for five minutes, yet you are ready to sit there in your armchairs and dispatch them as if they were roach bugs.

And at other times in this forum, most of you have claimed to be Christians? By what measure? By what standard? What Bible are you reading that allows you to even consider treating other human beings in the manner some of you do?

Apparently, some people have not an ounce of shame. They are shameless. They will bust Hell wide open, I am quite sure.

July 13, 2014 at 5:18 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

And you, Alpo, profess to be a Christian??. Christians don't launch personal, libelous vendettas against another. So, Christian? No chance.

July 13, 2014 at 5:29 p.m.
conservative said...

inquiringmind said...

The Church argued over the relationship and identity of the Father, Son, Holy Spirit for over 400 years, a and only when Constantine got so frustrated with the arguing between the East and West branches that he felt it threatened its unity which he needed to instantiate God's blessing on his empire, that he locked bishops from both sides in a room and said don't come out until you have a comm,on confession of what the relationship is, hence the Nicene Creed. Because of the human urge to quantify even those things that resist quantification, the Church has continued to debate and argue over the significance of these three concepts for the next 1700 years. They have argued to the point that some will make one's definition of the Trinity the litmus test for their human idea of salvation rather than the simple criterion Jesus put forth. July 13, 2014 at 3:45 p.m.

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You Inquiringmind, believe that you will earn salvation, a damnable heresy.

You Inquiringmind, believe that unbelievers can go to heaven, another damnable heresy.

Now you Inquiringmind, make the Trinity of God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit, just a point of argument.

The true church which is made of believers in the person and work of Jesus Christ has always believed that God is one yet three persons, as revealed in Scripture and nothing else. It has never been a point of argument within the true church.

These three persons are God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit.

Inquiringmind, what to you believe?

July 13, 2014 at 5:33 p.m.
alprova said...

Jack Dana Dennis wrote: "And you, Alpo, profess to be a Christian??"

You bet.

"Christians don't launch personal, libelous vendettas against another."

Mister, you are the poster child of personal, libelous vendettas in a public forum. I haven't had five minutes worth of peace since you found this forum.

You are petty, vindictive, and caustic in your commentary, to an extreme. You have absolutely no friends in this forum. None.

I have made it clear as a bell that I would absolutely and totally forget you are alive, if you would extend the same courtesy to me.

My quoting YOUR typewritten confession to being a convicted pedophile is not a personal vendetta. I am merely using it as leverage to try to force you to leave me alone.

I want nothing to do with you, not even on negative terms, but you are forcing me to post your own words against you.

You started this. I did not. I can completely ignore you and would never post a damn word in your direction, if only you could do the same thing.

But you're not capable of it. You're determined to keep this war alive. I will ignore you the best I can, but you're reputation will always be that of a self-confessed pedophile, and you're the only person who can alter it.

I don't happen to believe you care if people think you molest kids.

"So, Christian? No chance."

My Christianity is between God and myself. I'm not about to argue with a child molesting ex-Priest about the status of my soul.

July 13, 2014 at 5:50 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

You really don't get it, do you?

July 13, 2014 at 5:53 p.m.
alprova said...

Connie, why not simply quote the scripture that proves Jesus was God in the flesh.

What? Can't find it? Imagine that? So where does that theory come from?

References in scripture to the Father, the Son, and The Holy Spirit are ALWAYS presented as three separate entities.

Nowhere is scripture does the Bible support the Trinity. Nowhere.

And John 1:18 sez it all - "No man has seen God;"

July 13, 2014 at 5:56 p.m.
MTJohn said...

conservative said...You have identified yourself in the past as a Liberal so you think like a Liberal. You will have to explain what the one has to do with another, I don't follow Liberal reasoning very well.

I didn't ask you to respond from the perspective of liberal reasoning. I asked you to respond from the perspective of your confession that Jesus is God - assuming that you make that confession. Jesus - Emmanuel - God with us gave us new commandments, to love God with all our hearts, souls and mind and to love our neighbors as ourselves. So, with regard to the situation on our southern border, what would it look like to love our neighbors - in this case, the undocumented immigrants - as ourselves?

July 13, 2014 at 5:59 p.m.

Alprova, out of the blue you accused me of being incarcerated more than once. Absolutely not ounce of truth to it. You couldn't be more wrong. You also implied that I must be OK with pedophiles since I "associate" with Jack on here. There's nothing Christian about that. You are a hypocrite.

July 13, 2014 at 6 p.m.
alprova said...

Jack Dana Dennis wrote: "You really don't get it, do you?"

Of course I get it. You want it both ways. You want to retain this imaginary perfect reputation of never having posted a lie into this forum, and on the other hand, you want to be this imaginary man who has a perfect reputation as, who knows what?

The fact is, you admitted to being Jack Dana Dennis, who has amassed a reputation for being a three time convicted child predator, along with other criminal acts.

You refuse to type the words that you lied when you admitted to being that man, and that you are not Jack Dana Dennis.

Who do you believe is fooled by your rouse? Anyone?

I don't care what it is you want. I just want you to leave me the %&$@ alone and forget I am alive.

I don't like you. I don't want to debate in child like terms to have to be able to communicate with you. You're a child trapped in a man's body. You're like a little girl who finds the Internet appealing, who changes her avatar three times a day.

You live your entire life online. This forum and Twitter is your wife and your life. I should be grateful that at least while you are entertained online between these two forums, at least children are a bit more safe from harm, although I am sure your online habits are being monitored by the authorities.

Personally, I wish you would have a fatal heart attack and be done with it. You're worthless as a human being. You're breathing air that would be far more beneficial for someone who will appreciate breathing it.

It's got to be a bitch being friendless, but that is YOUR reality.

July 13, 2014 at 6:07 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

^^. CHRISTIAN. BWAHAHAHA!

July 13, 2014 at 6:10 p.m.
alprova said...

Z-man wrote: "Alprova, out of the blue you accused me of being incarcerated more than once. Absolutely not ounce of truth to it."

Uh huh...I'm sure there's not.

"You couldn't be more wrong."

I'm sure I'm wrong.

"You also implied that I must be OK with pedophiles since I "associate" with Jack on here. There's nothing Christian about that. You are a hypocrite."

Okay...

Anything else?

I might have missed it, but I don't recall ever having read a sentence in the Bible, commanding me to be civil to someone who would confess to intentionally sexually abusing a child.

Maybe you can enlighten me, since you believe you have a handle on the issue.

Pardon me while I go throw up.

July 13, 2014 at 6:13 p.m.
alprova said...

Jack Dana Dennis wrote: "^^. CHRISTIAN. BWAHAHAHA!"

There's something I have always wanted to know, and you're in a position to be able to answer it, you being an ex-Priest and all.

When you are in Seminary School, do they actually have classes to teach you how to fondle the alter boys?

July 13, 2014 at 6:24 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Anthony the Christian says "Personally, I wish you would have a fatal heart attack and be done with it." nice, huh?

July 13, 2014 at 6:24 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

I've no clue where that "ex-Priest" ditty came from. Out of Alpy's infected mind, I guess.

July 13, 2014 at 6:26 p.m.
alprova said...

You know damn well that you were excommunicated from the Church in Texas as an ex-Priest for sexually abusing kids. You moved to Knoxville to start a new life and oops, you did it again, three times.

But that's all academic.

There comes a time when you realize that a person has no redeeming quality of life in them and therefore they would be better off dead.

You need to meet God and to answer to him for your horrible sins against children. I'm sure you're going to feign the same sort of ignorance to God for what you have done, that you do in this forum for what you have typewritten.

You're a very sick man. You're confined to that shanty of a home, that needed paint a decade ago. You know that if you hit the light of day, someone might shoot you to death and piss on your dead carcass.

I just wish you to have a fatal heart attack.

I think I'm being far more kind than what you really deserve.

July 13, 2014 at 6:34 p.m.
alprova said...

After all the hoopla the other day over the topic of today's cartoon, I expected it to go manic today.

Instead, it's been quite tame and rather boring.

Dare I hope that some have seen the error in expressing melodrama over this alleged illegal immigration explosion that is not occurring after all?

I guess all those outsiders who clamored on Murrietta, California decided to go home an watch some Soccer, so that the Border Patrol and the Immigration officials could get back to work enforcing the laws like they have always been doing.

July 13, 2014 at 6:39 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

^^. A good one for the lawyers. A damnable lie. The poor bugger.

July 13, 2014 at 6:41 p.m.
alprova said...

I wish you would sue me. That would be fun.

You're just now getting around to denying you are an ex-Priest? I posted that charge months ago. You just let it lay on the table and ignored it.

I never post that which I cannot prove.

Sue me...PLEASE!!

July 13, 2014 at 6:46 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpo libels with "You know damn well that you were excommunicated from the Church in Texas as an ex-Priest for sexually abusing kids. You moved to Knoxville to start a new life and oops, you did it again, three times." *Let's see your proof of this fantasy, Anthony Provancher. Post it. We're waiting.

July 13, 2014 at 6:49 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

alpy 6:34 screenshot one for the record.

July 13, 2014 at 6:57 p.m.
alprova said...

Jack Dana Dennis wrote: "Alpo libels with "You know damn well that you were excommunicated from the Church in Texas as an ex-Priest for sexually abusing kids. You moved to Knoxville to start a new life and oops, you did it again, three times." *Let's see your proof of this fantasy, Anthony Provancher. Post it. We're waiting."

First of all, who is this "We" crap? No one cares but yourself. You're friendless in this forum, or haven't you noticed that lately?

Your powers of observation are astounding. I posted no less than three months ago the same thing, and you totally ignored it.

You ignore proof when it is posted, so I'll save it for the jury trial you will surely be demanding. It's going to be fun watching you laughed out of court, not that I believe you have the gonads to actually sue anyone, after your confession in this forum, which is archived.

July 13, 2014 at 7:03 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpo says "sue me, please". For what? That hovel you live in? I guess if you've got nothing to lose, it empowers you to libel. Pitiful.

July 13, 2014 at 7:04 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

You're obsessed with forum "friends". A symptom?

July 13, 2014 at 7:06 p.m.
alprova said...

Jack Dana Dennis wrote: "Alpo says "sue me, please". For what? That hovel you live in?"

You've never seen any home that I've lived in. Not once. 59 Manor Lane is a plot of land used for grazing. Are you hungry?

"I guess if you've got nothing to lose, it empowers you to libel. Pitiful."

I've got nothing to lose, but you cannot and will not disprove one sentence I have ever written about you, although you could very easily, if you wanted to. You like being notorious.

Nothing libelous at all. Just 100% facts, Jack Dana Dennis.

July 13, 2014 at 7:10 p.m.
alprova said...

Jack Dana Dennis wrote: "You're obsessed with forum "friends". A symptom?"

Sir, when I referred to you as being friendless, it included life off of the Internet as well. You are quite friendless.

Your life each day starts online and it ends online 16 hours later.

The archives of this forum prove it quite well. Any lapses from this forum are taken up by your Twitter account.

That is your life. It is pathetic, to say the least.

I don't come online to make friends. I come online to discuss issues and debate with people who have something other than rocks rolling around upstairs.

You go online to insult people. That's all you do for 16 hours a day. You're the most anti-social creature ever born on this Earth.

July 13, 2014 at 7:19 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Nothing libelous at all. Just 100% facts, Jack Dana Dennis. you know I'm not Jack Dana Dennis, creep. Still waiting on that ex-priest proof

July 13, 2014 at 7:41 p.m.
alprova said...

Jack Dana Dennis wrote: "you know I'm not Jack Dana Dennis, creep."

No I don't. You have not recanted your confession. If you did, then please point me to your post that makes it clear that you now admit to not being Jack Dana Dennis.

"Still waiting on that ex-priest proof"

Sue me and I'll be sure to bring all the proof necessary to court.

Your being an ex-Priest was not a problem three months ago. Why all of a sudden is it one now?

The issue at hand is your sexual abuse of children. You don't seem to be bothered by that accusation at all. You don't seem to be bothered by your three criminal convictions for it. In fact, you seem to be proud of it.

Damn you to Hell you pedophile.

July 13, 2014 at 7:53 p.m.
conservative said...

MtJohn said:

Conservative - do you make that confession? If so, what would Jesus do about the United States' southern border?

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God ordained government and the punishment for wrongdoers even to the point of death.

Read Romans Chapter 13 if you don't believe me.

WE have borders to protect us and a system of laws to protect our borders and citizens from those who would cross over and do us harm. This also is a function of government.

WE have immigration laws, don't take my word for it, just look it up.

Borders and boundaries go way back. God began borders in Genesis with Abram (Abraham):

On that day the Lord made a covenant with Abram, saying, “To your descendants I have given this land, From the river of Egypt as far as the great river, the river Euphrates: the Kenite and the Kenizzite and the Kadmonite and the Hittite and the Perizzite and the Rephaim and the Amorite and the Canaanite and the Jebusite.” Genesis 15: 18-22

More detailed borders in the book of Numbers.

Jerusalem had walls. Walls are borders and boundaries for protection. Jerusalem as all cities and countries have borders. Think about it and look into it if you don't still get it.

When the Jews returned to Jerusalem after the exile, they rebuilt the walls. These were borders and boundaries. The walls afforded protection. Think about it.

So the wall was completed on the twenty-fifth of the month Elul, in fifty-two days. When all our enemies heard of it, and all the nations surrounding us saw it, they lost their confidence; for they recognized that this work had been accomplished with the help of our God. Nehemiah 6:15-16

MtJohn, I hope you now see why we have borders and that God approves them.

July 13, 2014 at 8:07 p.m.
Ki said...

conservy said: "no sodomite will enter the kingdom of 'god,"

If you really believe what you're saying, conservy, that's going to include a helluva lot of heterosexuals too, and especially many of your religion. --think about it ;)

July 13, 2014 at 8:20 p.m.
Ki said...

conservy said: I hope you see why we have borders and 'god approve of them

Then you also believe in genocide and the holocaust because weren't these and other atrocities approved and sanctioned by the 'christian 'god in the bible?

July 13, 2014 at 8:28 p.m.
conservative said...

conservy said: "no sodomite will enter the kingdom of 'god,"

If you really believe what you're saying, conservy, that's going to include a helluva lot of heterosexuals too, and especially many from your religious types--think about it ;)

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Actually I wrote Homosexuals/sodomites. Look up the prefixes homo and hetero and you will see where you went wrong.

July 13, 2014 at 8:35 p.m.
conservative said...

Ki said...

conservy said: I hope you see why we have borders and 'god approve of them

Then you also believe in genocide and the holocaust because weren't these and other atrocities approved and sanctioned by the 'christian 'god in the bible?

July 13, 2014 at 8:28 p.m

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Wrong again.

July 13, 2014 at 8:36 p.m.
alprova said...

Connie wrote: "God ordained government and the punishment for wrongdoers even to the point of death."

Well there it is in black and white.

Connie believes illegal immigrants deserve to die for breaching our borders.

July 13, 2014 at 8:57 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

"So gassy, Perry is lying? That what you're saying?"

Why, to impress his "Conservative" donors? I wouldn't put it past him. I doubt Perry knows where the "border patrol stations" are himself.

"Guass, you're a fool. Projection. That's what you libs do, you bring up the Bible and Christ in this orchestrated invasion so you can put a positive spin on it."

I never mentioned the "Bible and Christ" with whatever "orchestrated invasion" to which you refer. Two posts I made today. One, Rick Perry is an idiot, which is going to be hard for you to argue against. Two, that ConMan is twisted individual that uses his interpretation of "Christianity" to condemn people and to attempt to gain acceptance for his political beliefs. Again, that is going to be hard for you to argue against. I also posted his is a "closeted homosexual". Again, if you reference his posts and infatuation with anal sex and sodomy, I think you'd have a hard time convincing anyone that ConMan is a heterosexual.

"And BO is credbile, Gauss? The man lies or decieves whenever he opens his mouth."

Compared to Rick Perry? Absolutely. Of course a Chicken Little individual, such as yourself, you have been paranoid since 2008. Too much talk radio has convoluted your mind. If those guys told you to eat dookie, your wife would be wiping your chin with Charmin.

July 13, 2014 at 9:14 p.m.
Ki said...

Conservy, I purposely left out your "homo" reference for a reason, because you seem to always refer to a belief that only gays engage in a certain type of sexual acts. My point being many, especially of your religious hetero types, also engage in those same type acts you appear to obsessively reference with their wives or husbands. In fact, I once overheard a TV Evangeliist clarify it by saying those acts were approved in the bible be'cuz: what takes place in the bedroom between husband and wife is sanctioned by 'god, according to his sermon on the topic that day.

July 13, 2014 at 9:28 p.m.
Ki said...

conservy said: wrong again

How? Either you go by the word fukky or you don't.

July 13, 2014 at 9:31 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

KI unless you believe in self-flaggelation give it up with conman

July 13, 2014 at 9:41 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpy, "Still waiting on that ex-priest proof"

July 13, 2014 at 10 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

I would pose the questions, what kind of man would accuse another of maybe the most egregious offense, that is, being an ex-priest pedophile, and then not post any proof of the charges?" Is that not cowardly? And what kind of newspaper, stating they have a "no libel" policy, would allow such? Fair questions?

July 13, 2014 at 10:05 p.m.
fairmon said...

alprova said...Well you know what? We're simply going to have to do our best, because shoving them back across the border is not an option. They are children.

You can prevent entrance if you control the border as we should. They are children but many with tattoos, smoking and over 16 yo. Why should we do our best for those from South America when we aren't doing our best for American children? Why are those from south of Mexico treated differently than those from Mexico? Those from Mexico can be returned immediately without the due process congress passed for other countries a few years ago and will not change because the administration adds inappropriately to their proposal to change the law enabling the president to immediately return those seeking asylum. They have all been schooled and use similar words even before ask why they are here. It is similar to the way Castro emptied the prisons in Cuba and put them on boats to be rescued by the ignorant Americans that destroyed Miami and made it the world's largest money laundering and drug trafficking location in the world. Yes, some eventually became decent citizens but not the majority. Texas reports over 640,000 crimes committed by illegals in that state alone. A record number of felonies. Over 80% of those now entering that are scheduled for a court date fail to show up and the authorities have no idea where they are. It is easy to cheer lead and insist on something to which you contribute nothing. It is easy when you are supported by others to insist on them doing the same for anyone in the world in need. There is not enough wealth in the world to meet your bleeding heart criteria.

Do I care about those seeking asylum from central America. The answer is hell no when I see daily right here in my own city homeless, hungry mistreated American children and adults that no one seems interested in helping while allowing some to use and abuse the system and live well. I give liberally to the Community Kitchen, Salvation Army and Saint Jude's and I object to the government confiscation of more from me so they can waste and spend it to get elected or to gain personal popularity in high profile situations like that currently at the border. It is not a party issue, both suck, and your favorite president is incompetent. To him compromise or bipartisan is you need to see it my way and do what I say although he doesn't have an original thought but is a puppet for the power brokers. History will not be kind to him if the truth becomes known.

July 13, 2014 at 11:52 p.m.
alprova said...

Jack Dana Dennis wrote: "I would pose the questions, what kind of man would accuse another of maybe the most egregious offense, that is, being an ex-priest pedophile, and then not post any proof of the charges?"

You threatened to sue me today. You want proof, I'll see you in court counselor.

"Is that not cowardly?"

Hhhmmmm...it seems I hit a nerve.

"And what kind of newspaper, stating they have a "no libel" policy, would allow such?"

Now don't go blaming the TFP for anything. When you were posting personal information on me, that was all well and good. Now that the tables have turned, and you are under the spotlight, you want to squeal like a pig?

Oh...no, no, no...that won't do. It's all fair when you want to play games with people, isn't it?

Wait until next week. I'm sure I will have more to add. Remember, you started this. You had all the power to end it. You refused to, so I'm going to bring it to a head and pop it like a pimple, then wipe you away with an alcohol pad.

My intent is to make you sorry you ever wanted to troll this forum.

July 14, 2014 at 1:22 a.m.
MTJohn said...

conservative said...God ordained government and the punishment for wrongdoers even to the point of death. Read Romans Chapter 13 if you don't believe me.

Conservative - you are doing an excellent job of selectively reading Scripture to reinforce your selfish understanding of the letter of the law, while completely missing the spirit of the law. God ordained government to maintain order for the sake of the neighbor. Read Luke 10:25-37 if you don't believe me.

July 14, 2014 at 6:48 a.m.
fairmon said...

Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California, said a change in regulations, not the law, could speed the children's return.

The law already allows HHS and the Homeland Security Department to write regulations to deal with "exceptional circumstances" that would allow officials to return the children more quickly to their home countries, Feinstein said Thursday at a hearing on a $3.7 billion emergency budget request from the White House to deal with the growing crisis on the border.

Federal immigration courts have a backlog of more than 375,000 cases.

NOTE: The backlog is so great when those that do show up have been here so long the judge concludes it would be insensitive to not allow them to remain unless they have a felony conviction. The backlog will get larger as the number arriving is not slowing but growing. The president doesn't want to prevent this major cost drain and other issues for the states and obviously has no qualms about increasing the federal deficit.

Increase the number of goal tenders to equal or exceed the increased size of the goal.

July 14, 2014 at 6:58 a.m.
conservative said...

MTJohn said...

conservative said...God ordained government and the punishment for wrongdoers even to the point of death. Read Romans Chapter 13 if you don't believe me.

Conservative - you are doing an excellent job of selectively reading Scripture to reinforce your selfish understanding of the letter of the law, while completely missing the spirit of the law. God ordained government to maintain order for the sake of the neighbor. Read Luke 10:25-37 if you don't believe me.

July 14, 2014 at 6:48 a.m.

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You are obviously an advocate for lawlessness.

What do you think the walls around Jerusalem were for?

How many homeless people have crossed the borders of your property and how many are you allowing to stay?

How many would you allow to stay if they crossed onto your property today?

July 14, 2014 at 7:07 a.m.
conservative said...

Ki said...

Conservy, I purposely left out your "homo" reference for a reason, because you seem to always refer to a belief that only gays engage in a certain type of sexual acts. My point being many, especially of your religious hetero types, also engage in those same type acts you appear to obsessively reference with their wives or husbands. In fact, I once overheard a TV Evangeliist clarify it by saying those acts were approved in the bible be'cuz: what takes place in the bedroom between husband and wife is sanctioned by 'god, according to his sermon on the topic that day.

July 13, 2014 at 9:28 p.m.

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Somehow you missed the fact that God ordained sex within marriage between and man and a woman only.

Sex outside of marriage is sin and forbidden.

Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. 1 Corinthians 6:9-10

July 14, 2014 at 7:24 a.m.
alprova said...

Connie, you're a lost soul.

I dare offer that not so much as one illegal immigrant has touched the property where you live, so your hypothetical is quite moot.

The walls around Jerusalem were to protect against intrusion from those who meant to do grave harm to those inside the walls.

That is not of great concern in our case.

Those coming across the border are seeking a better life.

As a Christian, you should show some compassion for what they are going through, versus what you take for granted as a citizen of this nation.

I see not an ounce of compassion from you, ever.

You seem devoid of compassion...period.

Even when you post in terms of God and his Son, it is ALWAYS negative...never positive.

You know nothing of God or Jesus and you certainly do not have any holy spirit roaming around in your closets.

July 14, 2014 at 7:34 a.m.
conservative said...

Mr. Anthony Provancher known anti Christ wrote:

"Jesus cannot be God"

"Jesus sinned"

This anti Christ has mocked, ridiculed and blasphemed the deity of Jesus and the virgin birth to say the least:

"The very fact that Jesus was given birth, and came out as little helpless small baby is enough to refute the claim that Jesus is God."

"It is utter blasphemy to claim that God came out of a women like all people, it is utter blasphemy to claim God came out crying and screaming and being helpless and weak."

"Such nonsense is insulting to God; this itself is enough to prove Jesus is not God. How can you claim that God came out of a woman?"

"Are you mad? Are you insane? How can you insult God in such a manner? Some of you Christians should be ashamed of yourselves for ascribing such rubbish to God."

And the man has shown no remorse for his wicked pronunciations.

July 14, 2014 at 7:45 a.m.
conservative said...

Mr. Anthony Provancher, has revealed himself as an anti Christ.

He wrote "Jesus cannot be God"

He has written ONE truth:

"Your problems are not my problems. I rejected your brand of Christianity years ago. Nothing is going to change that."

July 14, 2014 at 7:53 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Fat Alpy, Anything I ever posted about you is true. Flat out. I don't want to sue you. You've got nothing I want. You live on the dole and in squalor. So keep it up, Stumpy. Now go back to guming your oatmeal, gimp.

July 14, 2014 at 7:59 a.m.
inquiringmind said...

MT,

Since I pointed it out to him, conman likes to toss out onto the table Romans 13 to justify obeying the government and construe it to mean the government has the power to "punish sinners," but he conveniently ignores 1 Samuel 8 that clearly warns not expect justice and a rose garden from the government you asked for because the request itself abused God.

But you all better realize he lives in an alternate reality.

July 14, 2014 at 8:09 a.m.
conservative said...

Inquirinmind

Was Jesus Christ God, manifested in the flesh?

It is a simple question.

July 14, 2014 at 8:14 a.m.
alprova said...

Jack Dana Dennis wrote: "Fat Alpy, Anything I ever posted about you is true. Flat out."

You don't know very much about me at all, but that's neither here nor there.

"I don't want to sue you. You've got nothing I want. You live on the dole and in squalor."

Do you know that for sure or is that merely another guess on your part? I'm hardly living in squalor but you believe it if it makes you feel better.

"So keep it up, Stumpy. Now go back to guming your oatmeal, gimp."

Sir, I've got every tooth in my head. Every one of them. I'm pretty sure in one of your police photos, you had a couple of yours knocked out.

You're unusually nasty this morning, so I'll go ahead and get my daily posting out of the way;

Just the simple facts as you have typed them and refuse to acknowledge. That and the fact that you were a pedophile Catholic Priest;

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270586 http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270592 http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270593 http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270595

http://www.homefacts.com/offender-detail/TN00513388/Jack-Dana-Dennis.html

July 14, 2014 at 8:40 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Hhhmmmm...it seems I hit a nerve.

July 14, 2014 at 8:43 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpo said "For whatever reason he has for doing so, he claimed to be Jack Dana Dennis, but to the best of my knowledge, he is not that man, therefore I no longer believe he has ever harmed a child."

Thank you, sir.

July 14, 2014 at 9:01 a.m.
alprova said...

I'm fine Mr. pedophile. You can't hurt me. I've dealt with many who were nastier than you have ever been.

I know every time I hit a nerve with you, though, and so does everyone else. You post my Facebook pic as your avatar. You're like a 12 year old girl, the way you change your avatars.

You're fighting for your life. This forum and your Twitter account is your entire pathetic life. You dare not leave your house, for fear of being beaten within and inch of your life, so you lock yourself indoors and spend 16 hours a day online.

You're totally pathetic, friendless, and utterly alone.

July 14, 2014 at 9:02 a.m.
alprova said...

Pedophile, that was written BEFORE I discovered you were an excommunicated Catholic Priest, and it was before you have refused numerous times to recant your infamous confessions.

You are indeed Jack Dana Dennis.

You refuse to call what you wrote a lie, and in fact have posted several times in this forum that you have never lied.

That can only be true IF you are Jack Dana Dennis.

You cannot have it neither way, Jackie. Either you lied or you are a self-confessed pedophile.

There is no third option.

July 14, 2014 at 9:09 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpo said "For whatever reason he has for doing so, he claimed to be Jack Dana Dennis, but to the best of my knowledge, he is not that man, therefore I no longer believe he has ever harmed a child."

Thank you, sir.

July 14, 2014 at 9:10 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

I would pose the questions, what kind of man would accuse another of maybe the most egregious offense, that is, being an ex-priest pedophile, and then not post any proof of the charges?" Is that not cowardly? And what kind of newspaper, stating they have a "no libel" policy, would allow such? Fair questions?

July 14, 2014 at 9:16 a.m.
alprova said...

You're totally delusional if you believe the above quotation from myself, offered when your identity was not clear, wipes out your guilt.

I was totally incorrect when I wrote that and that I admit freely.

That's your habit. You have walked away from everything you have done and just ignore it as if it never happened.

You're not getting away with it this time, and you know it.

You are a self-confessed, three time convicted child predator and that's all there is to it.

July 14, 2014 at 9:17 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpo chokes out "Pedophile, that was written BEFORE I discovered you were an excommunicated Catholic Priest, and it was before you have refused numerous times to recant your infamous confessions." Should be easy enough to prove, Gimp. Post it

July 14, 2014 at 9:18 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Only thing you're proving, dead-beat, is that you're one sick s.o.b.

July 14, 2014 at 9:19 a.m.
alprova said...

Good God...the pedophile is turning into Connie, posting the same crap over and over.

Sir, you are not important enough to seek protection from the TFP from a false charge of libel.

You're a shut-in stationed in Knoxville, Tennessee and as such, a nobody.

Are you a paying customer of this publication? I sure am.

Perhaps they need to review to see if you are even supporting this publication.

July 14, 2014 at 9:21 a.m.
alprova said...

Jack Dana Dennis wrote: "Only thing you're proving, dead-beat, is that you're one sick s.o.b."

Dead-beat? I pay my bills and always have. It is true that I am sick to death of dealing with you, pedophile, but the time is near when the game will be over once and for all.

Aren't you the one who filed for bankruptcy? If you are not Jack Dana Dennis, then the answer to that one is still a resounding "Yes."

But...you've got bigger problems to deal with these days, Jack Dana Dennis.

July 14, 2014 at 9:26 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Weird Akpo says "Good God...the pedophile is turning into Connie, posting the same crap over and over." this from a guy that has posted hundreds of posts on fake bankruptcy/pedophilia too funny.

July 14, 2014 at 9:30 a.m.
alprova said...

Jack Dana Dennis wrote: "Should be easy enough to prove, Gimp. Post it"

Why? and watch you stop squirming? You know you're busted. You also know where I learned that information. A good reporter always protects his/her source.

Naw...I'm gonna keep that under my hat for awhile. It's got you too jazzed up at the moment.

July 14, 2014 at 9:32 a.m.
alprova said...

Can't be fake when you confessed to it. You keep forgetting that simple fact. I'm not the only one who has reminded you of that fact either.

July 14, 2014 at 9:33 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

alpo the coward say "Naw...I'm gonna keep that under my hat for awhile. It's got you too jazzed up at the moment." You just continue to prove your cowardice. Cool off man. Have the wifey drive you around the block.

July 14, 2014 at 9:36 a.m.
inquiringmind said...

Al and TJD, you guys need to take you feud somewhere else you are getting as bad about clogging the board as con-man.

July 14, 2014 at 10:18 a.m.
alprova said...

I'm going to ignore you for the rest of the day. You post like a ten year old.

I'm going to quote John Boehner. "Is there ANYTHING you are going to take responsibility for?"

July 14, 2014 at 10:20 a.m.
alprova said...

inquiringmind offered: "Al and TJD, you guys need to take you feud somewhere else you are getting as bad about clogging the board as con-man."

It'll be over soon and I'm going to ignore the man for the rest of the day, however, I will post what I want to post, and you can do the same. No one has the right to tell someone to go someplace else.

Okay?

July 14, 2014 at 10:22 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

They see your lies, prick.

July 14, 2014 at 10:24 a.m.
inquiringmind said...

You can take suggestion and advice or not, it is your prerogative. Just don't take either as a directive.

There is really no place for public vulgarity, TJD...if you can't make your point in polite English perhaps you ought to zip it up.

July 14, 2014 at 10:34 a.m.
MTJohn said...

conservative said...You are obviously an advocate for lawlessness.

Hardly! I am an advocate for people who confess that Jesus is Lord advocate for government that functions consistently with Jesus' commandment to love our neighbors as ourselves. And, as the parable of the Good Samaritan makes clear, my neighbor includes all those folks who society would otherwise consider unloveable. But, that comes as now surprise because, by God's standard, humans are unloveable, but God loves us anyway.

I live under no delusion that society will ever live by God's law of love. But, I find it strange that people who say they confess that Jesus is Lord defend a system that clearly is not consistent with the law of love.

July 14, 2014 at 10:38 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

yeah, IQ. Alpo has been real polite to me.

July 14, 2014 at 10:38 a.m.
Ki said...

conservy, I offer you my most humble mea culpa on my yesterday's 9:31 p.m. post. The word I meant to type was fully, and not fukky. Letters K and L being so close together and I wa s typing by touchscreen while walking, I hit the "k" twice and didn't proofread before posting. I hope you will accept my sincere apology, as such sounding words are not a part of my vocabulary. I promise to make every attempt to be more careful in any future postings and I will also make every attempt to proofread before posting.

July 14, 2014 at 10:50 a.m.
conservative said...

MTJohn said...

I live under no delusion that society will ever live by God's law of love. But, I find it strange that people who say they confess that Jesus is Lord defend a system that clearly is not consistent with the law of love.

July 14, 2014 at 10:38 a.m.

=============================

You are clearly frustrated at your inability to draw me into an argument about your perception/feelings/emotions about illegal immigration.

I spend very little time and have very little patience with Godless Liberals who pervert the word of God in justifying their sins and Godless Socialism.

You obviously have been taken in by such whether in the mess media or some religious cult.

Why don't you post your address, so all who want to come and cross your borders at your home my do so and you can practice what you preach to others?

July 14, 2014 at 11:03 a.m.
tifosi said...

Alprova said: "t'll be over soon and I'm going to ignore the man for the rest of the day,"

HAHAHA... how many promises have you made to date... only to "change your mind"?

Sad little man.

July 14, 2014 at 11:12 a.m.
inquiringmind said...

TJD, we all know what the referee does in the football game, slaps the penalty on the one who he happens to see retaliate.

Rise above it while we read about con0man's "Godless Socialism" and "Godless liberals." I guess he(?) implies" God-filled Capitalism," and "God-blessed Conservatism."

July 14, 2014 at 11:26 a.m.

Congrats to VW. Looks like there will be 2000 new jobs and a new SUV. UAW is not happy, of course.

July 14, 2014 at 12:03 p.m.
tifosi said...

A lot of applause by employees when Sen. Corker and Gov. Haslam spoke in today's employee presentation. No sign of any UAW reps and mention of the UAW at all.

The R&D Center was great news. We had not heard about that part.

Great day for Tennessee and Chattanooga. Lots of happy Germans too after winning the World Cup.

July 14, 2014 at 12:09 p.m.
MTJohn said...

conservative said...I spend very little time and have very little patience with Godless Liberals who pervert the word of God in justifying their sins and Godless Socialism.

Obviously, because you apparently spend all of your time with Godless Conservatives who pervert the Word of God in justifying their sins and Godless fascism.

July 14, 2014 at 12:12 p.m.

You who are ok with this illegal alien invasion should have no objection to someone breaking into your home, and having them call it their home as well.

July 14, 2014 at 12:12 p.m.

MTJohn, if you want to see fascism in action just observe our BO led government. Last time I checked BO is as far left as you can get.

July 14, 2014 at 12:14 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Inquiringmind - Anthony Provancher said to me "Personally, I wish you would have a fatal heart attack and be done with it. You're worthless as a human being. You're breathing air that would be far more beneficial for someone who will appreciate breathing it." So IQ, is that the "polite english" you're speaking of? Hmmm?

July 14, 2014 at 12:46 p.m.
alprova said...

tifosi wrote: "HAHAHA... how many promises have you made to date... only to "change your mind"?"

Given that you lied about today's announcement and your intimate knowledge, I wouldn't be typing too much today.

10:15am My hind end.

I really don't understand why some people find it necessary to lie about their positions in life.

You've been telling whoppers.

July 14, 2014 at 12:52 p.m.
conservative said...

MtJohn said:

conservative said...I spend very little time and have very little patience with Godless Liberals who pervert the word of God in justifying their sins and Godless Socialism.

Obviously, because you apparently spend all of your time with Godless Conservatives who pervert the Word of God in justifying their sins and Godless fascism.

===================================

And I justify what sin Mt John?

In the past you have attempted unsuccessfully to justify Homosexual/sodomy under your wrong interpretation of God's grace.

Have you added other sins that you are willing to defend?

Here is a good list of sins that you cannot practice and inherit the Kingdom of God.

You are welcome to try to defend Homosexuality/sodomy again if you dare.

Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. 1 Corinthians 6:9-10

July 14, 2014 at 12:53 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

TJD, Like I said, ignore it, the only thing that can get hurt is pride and who needs pride.

July 14, 2014 at 12:56 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

Z,

I figure the only reason VW chose this town is the UAW formed the nascent works council. I think they have put their home-brewed Nazi tendencies behind them so the local Tennessee variety can't be attractive to them - although the old Nazi's and Italian fascists loved the way you and com-man talk.

July 14, 2014 at 1 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Sure, anti-union is Nazism. Right? Add another term to the Left's default list of things to call dissenters.

July 14, 2014 at 1:05 p.m.
MTJohn said...

conservative said...And I justify what sin Mt John?

The failure to love your neighbor as yourself.

July 14, 2014 at 1:13 p.m.
tifosi said...

The VW employee meeting for the SUV announcement started promptly at 10:15. The press was there.

I didn't see any stump-legged people there, so I guess you wouldn't know what time we started. Alprova... you are such a sad little man.

July 14, 2014 at 1:15 p.m.
alprova said...

tifosi wrote: "The VW employee meeting for the SUV announcement started promptly at 10:15. The press was there."

You lying sack of crap. The announcement came at 8:00 am straight up.

"I didn't see any stump-legged people there, so I guess you wouldn't know what time we started."

I was absolutely monitoring the TFP this morning. 8:00 am, and the announcement came from Germany with the Mayor and other dignitaries in Germany.

Go sell your tale to someone who wasn't on top of this.

Why you feel the need to lie is beyond all comprehension. You're not an insider at all. You're just and anti-union plant.

July 14, 2014 at 1:29 p.m.
conservative said...

MTJohn said...

conservative said...And I justify what sin Mt John?

The failure to love your neighbor as yourself.

July 14, 2014 at 1:13 p.m.

===========================

You judgmental brazen hypocrite!

There are several things I could and will say about your statement.

But first be specific.

July 14, 2014 at 1:35 p.m.

Now those of us who see modern unions, at least the big powerful ones as thugs, are now Nazis, huh?

BO is a fascist. He's a modern day fascist. That's an example

VW is thriving and they're hiring. The working conditions are great, the employees are happy, and the UAW is NOT needed. Deal with it.

July 14, 2014 at 2 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Wow, seems like anthony provancher has enemies on here. how is that possible?? bwahahaha

July 14, 2014 at 2:03 p.m.
timbo said...

Another $200 million plus down the tubs for VW incentives. Also, HERE COME THE UNION.

July 14, 2014 at 2:08 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

How's that, Tim?

July 14, 2014 at 2:16 p.m.
MTJohn said...

conservative said...You judgmental brazen hypocrite!

Are you talking to your mirror, again, Conservative?

July 14, 2014 at 2:26 p.m.
conservative said...

Mt John

You make a charge, you tie me to fascism and present NOTHING!

What else did you learn from the school yard?

July 14, 2014 at 2:29 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

Z go back and read my post. There are two ideas in it not one.

On a separate note, I get a kick out of con-man. Someone tells him to love his neighbor and con-man called him a "judgmental brazen hypocrite!" for telling him that.

My, my...such exemplary conduct.

July 14, 2014 at 2:42 p.m.
conservative said...

inquiringmind said...

Z go back and read my post. There are two ideas in it not one.

On a separate note, I get a kick out of con-man. Someone tells him to love his neighbor and con-man called him a "judgmental brazen hypocrite!" for telling him that.

My, my...such exemplary conduct.

July 14, 2014 at 2:42 p.m.

===========================

You lie!

You lie, again!

July 14, 2014 at 2:50 p.m.
timbo said...

Jack..I meant down the tubes. The TFP article didn't mention the incentives package because it would dampen the enthusiasm. The NY Times had the incentives at $166 million and some other non-specified amounts.

The government picking winners and losers is economic fascism at it's worst. Hitler would be proud. What is the difference between these incentives and Solyndra? Nothing...Republicans complaining about Obama's crony capitalism are celebrating this stupid deal. They are just a bunch of hypocrites. Being conservative starts at the local level, not just the national level.

WE HAVE MOVED OUR SHOW TO 5 PM ON 1240 AM OR Hotnewstalkradio.com on the web. Today, Murder in Chattanooga, VW, Agenda 21,

July 14, 2014 at 2:52 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Got it, Tim. thanks

July 14, 2014 at 3 p.m.
tifosi said...

timbo - Risk = Reward. That is how business works. Why should a community not take risks in order to reap rewards. In today's competitive world, if Chattanooga didn't provide incentives then all the jobs, revenue, economic impact, etc. would have gone to Mexico. We already lost an Audi plant and the economic impact that would have brought. Over 20 years, Chattanooga and Hamilton County will have lost hundreds of millions of dollars.

What we don't do very well is making sure the incentives are used effectively to get maximum return on our investment.

July 14, 2014 at 3:08 p.m.
Ki said...

zabbybaybeee said: you who are OK with this illegal alien invasion should have no problem with someone breaking into your home and calling it their home as well..

You mean like the europes did to the native american tribes? And proceeded to rob and steal land from south american countries? They'd already committed the same against Africa for centuries. pretty much all of the west and southwest was south american erritory at one time. So, matpybe they're not crossing the borders illegally after all. They're reclaiming what's theirs. ;)

July 14, 2014 at 3:43 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Ki: Please try harder to make sense.

July 14, 2014 at 3:51 p.m.
tifosi said...

Actually the latest go round with children is a result of legislation that President G. W. Bush signed into law.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/08/us/immigrant-surge-rooted-in-law-to-curb-child-trafficking.html

July 14, 2014 at 4:04 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

^ was not intended for anything of this magnitude, but it played right into Obama's hands.

July 14, 2014 at 4:12 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

timbo, fascism is extreme rightwing totalitarianism, some how i doubt many would agree with you.

Solyndra was just an example of a process used for ages, fund new starts, knowing there is high risk; it facilitates industrial growth in a climate where those with $ would rather use the government's (and ours) rather than spend their own. If energy companies were investing, taking a risk on Solyndra would never have happened. The problem lies in the conservative, risk averse industrial mindset that permeates most industry.

I doubt you would understand that since you are too busy with your rhetoric. If we waited for local business to "save us" we'd go technologically bankrupt since Tennessee is technically and educationally bankrupt. We'd be selling bug spray or something akin to it.

July 14, 2014 at 4:32 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

What does Solyndra have to do with immigration and a goal that stretches the width of the field?

July 14, 2014 at 4:33 p.m.

Ki, typical liberal garbage. What does that have to do with I wrote. and how does it apply to this situation now.

What you wrote is idiocy. That's your justification for illegal aliens flooding our borders? Hondurans and Guatemalans have a claim to Arizona, New Mexico, Texas and California?

The Southwest was South American territory once? South America is not a country, and what people would those be?

July 14, 2014 at 5:04 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Cali: the new Calimala.

July 14, 2014 at 5:10 p.m.
fairmon said...

How many posting here are true Christians? My guess is a percent similar to the percent of totally honest politicians in D.C. The image most people have of Christians are not those judging each other and all not agreeing with them, criticizing and calling each other names. The devil loves it.

July 14, 2014 at 5:17 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

You lefties can yell all you want, but I guarantee you, one phone call from Dubya and Andrew Tahmooressi would have been sprung.

July 14, 2014 at 5:19 p.m.
alprova said...

If that were true, then why has he not placed a call? He's still a former President, isn't he?

Why can't YOU call down there and get him released? You're an important man...oh...sorry...I forgot you were defrocked.

July 14, 2014 at 5:35 p.m.
alprova said...

Oh boy...

2,000 more possibilities that the UAW will find a majority seeking representation in Chattanooga.

And Volkswagen will welcome it with open arms.

July 14, 2014 at 5:40 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Why don't you bite me?

July 14, 2014 at 5:44 p.m.
alprova said...

I'd rather eat dirt. Far more tasty and far less dangerous. Who knows what diseases you have running around in you?

July 14, 2014 at 5:46 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

You've proven your mental instability Alpo.

July 14, 2014 at 6:14 p.m.

Congratulations to the Gov. of Iowa for making it clear he doesn't want BO dumping illegal alien invaders in his state.

July 14, 2014 at 6:27 p.m.
Ki said...

jackibay-bee said: ki, please try harder to make sense

OK, :) --- Texas , California and some other parts now considered U. S. territory once all belonged to Mexico. You know, that place south of the US borders. ;)

To: zabybaybee, not really. Really. ;)

July 14, 2014 at 6:34 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Ki, I get it. Should we give them back? Would their people be better off?

July 14, 2014 at 6:39 p.m.

Ki, now considered US territory? "considered" It is the US. What are you nuts? How about Mexico, with Spanish as it's official language, give back all lands back to the descendents of the Aztecs because they were conquered by the Conquistadors? How far back do you want to go? How about we all bolt north and south america and leave it to the animals, even the native americans. The ancestors of native americans crossed over the land bridge from asia thousands of years ago and took the land from the animals?

No matter how you libs try and justify it illegal alien invaders are not supposed to be here.

If it's ok for illegal aliens to break into this country and stay, then it's ok for home invaders to break into your home and call it their home too.

July 14, 2014 at 6:47 p.m.
Ki said...

zabLEE, wonder where was that same Iowa gubNUH when the bush, standing alongside Presidente' Vicente Fox, stood at that podium side by side inviting those illegals to cross the border, no questions asked? No papers required? In fact, I recall the bush making the statement to the effect " they (the illegals) are willing to work the jobs Americans refuse."

The bush and the Mexican presidente' Fox, like the bush and his Saudi pals, are on the best of terms. Nothing much happens without the others' knowledge and or approval. ;)

July 14, 2014 at 6:52 p.m.
Ki said...

considered is the correct term. Trust me zabbeebaybee

July 14, 2014 at 6:55 p.m.
Ki said...

That's an option, jackD.

July 14, 2014 at 6:57 p.m.

"considered is the right term"? How? There is no "considered" it's the US, period. It's been official a long, long time, in case you're not aware.

Are all the states that were once part of the Louisiana Purchase just "considered" to be the US? No, they are the US, period.

Many presidents have failed, Ki, to defend our border properly, what BO has done, though, is criminal and lawless.

For the record, I think Bush failed on the borders. He fought terrorism across the world, but failed on our borders. I don't even think Reagan should have given amnesty to all of those illegals. BO is at another level. He should be impeached, he deserves to be, but he won't be.

July 14, 2014 at 7:16 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

"You lefties can yell all you want, but I guarantee you, one phone call from Dubya and Andrew Tahmooressi would have been sprung."

If the circumstances were the same and Tahmooressi was a Mexican soldier, he would still be in US jail. And you righties would flip out if Obama brokered a deal to have him released back to Mexico. I guess, Jack, you buy the Fox News tale that Tahmooressi "accidentally" entered Mexico even though the evidence suggests strongly that this was no accident.

I have said it earlier, I hope the guy gets released because of his PTSD and his mental instability. But the guy committed crimes in Mexico and the US.

July 14, 2014 at 7:47 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

"BO is at another level. He should be impeached, he deserves to be, but he won't be."

Why; because he's the only democrat of the three you listed? Obama has done nothing worse then Reagan. You're a partisan fool.

July 14, 2014 at 7:49 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Gassy, maybe. But the fact remains, he won't get justice from these thugs. Btw, you're wearing that Fox News ditty out.

July 14, 2014 at 7:59 p.m.

Yeah, Gauss, you keep believing that. BO is a lawless, rogue, anti- American President. He's allowing this to happen. What are illegal alien invaders doing flying into this country, then flying to places in this country while TSA looks the other way? Can you and I fly to someplace in this country without any documentation?

July 14, 2014 at 7:59 p.m.
tifosi said...

Funny how no Republican effort until recently has challenged the "lawlessness" of President Obama. Now, that someone has the experts are declaring that the Republicans will pay dearly next election.

Could it be that President Obama has outwitted the nitwits?

July 14, 2014 at 8:16 p.m.
ibshame said...

UAW announces last week they are going to start a VOLUNTARY local chapter, Today VW makes announcement they will build new line at plant where members can join the UAW chapter voluntarily. And no one wonders why UAW dropped their NLRB complaint? Now that's what is known as a "bait and switch" LOL, LOL

July 14, 2014 at 8:22 p.m.
fairmon said...

The UAW can open an office in any location desired. There will not be a majority of VW employees stupid enough to become associated with a leach like the UAW. VW does not "want" people to join the UAW but cannot state that publicly and alienate the works councils.

July 14, 2014 at 8:37 p.m.
fairmon said...

GaussianInteger said...

"BO is at another level. He should be impeached, he deserves to be, but he won't be."

Incompetence and not paying attention are not impeachable offenses.

July 14, 2014 at 8:40 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

"Gassy, maybe. But the fact remains, he won't get justice from these thugs. Btw, you're wearing that Fox News ditty out."

I don't know if he will get "justice" or not. But it's funny that when I watch O'Reilly or Kelly, they maintain that he "accidentally" entered Mexico. The facts suggest otherwise. He booked a hotel room in Mexico earlier that day. He passed through the "Nothing to Declare" line at the border. I mean come on, how many border checkpoints are in the US? Am I supposed to believe, as Fox News suggests, the guy didn't know he was entering Mexico? That big effing sign that says "Bienvenidos a Mexico" surely could have tipped him off.

July 14, 2014 at 8:42 p.m.
tifosi said...

The UAW is doing the same thing in Vance, AL near the Mercedes-Benz plant. Wreaks of desperation.

Republicans are also getting desperate by trying to sue the President. That will backfire at the polls.

July 14, 2014 at 8:45 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

"GaussianInteger said...

"BO is at another level. He should be impeached, he deserves to be, but he won't be."

Incompetence and not paying attention are not impeachable offenses."

No, GaussianInteger did not say that. I was quoting Chicken Little AKA Fister. Fister only believes Obama should be impeached because he heard it on talk radio.

July 14, 2014 at 8:49 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

"Yeah, Gauss, you keep believing that. BO is a lawless, rogue, anti- American President."

At least my beliefs are original. We can get yours from Limbaugh or Levin. Nothing Obama does is that different then his predecessors. You guys just can't remember anything from longer then a month ago except Benghazi or IRS. Selective amnesia at its finest.

July 14, 2014 at 8:53 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Gassy = The Obama Apologist.

July 14, 2014 at 9:02 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Baghdad Josh Earnest said today that the US is creating a more tranquil world. Are you kidding me?

July 14, 2014 at 9:06 p.m.
ibshame said...

Just watched that gutless, chicken hawk Dick Cheney say more money needs to be given to the Defense Dept. not to beef up the border patrol but to send more troops to the Middle East. Evidently the more than 4000 troops along with the thousands maimed for life weren't enough for him.

The one thing I will ALWAYS hold against President Obama is the fact he did not go after that whole bunch of scumbags that started the war in Iraq. They should have been made to answer for their lies. Cheney is a heartless murderer even though he's been allowed to continue to walk this earth with someone else's heart ticking in his body.

Teabaggers and Repubs cry Impeachment over 4 deaths in Benghazi where were their cries over the more than 4000 U.S. soldiers in Iraq? I still hope they are stupid enough to start impeachment proceedings against President Obama nothing could help the Dems more this November.

July 14, 2014 at 10:41 p.m.

Illegal alien invaders are just pouring through our borders. The border patrol is absolutely unable to do anything to stop it. It's BO's job to do something and he's doing nothing. He should send troops to the border.

There's nothing original about you, Guass, you sound like every other lib out there. Your beliefs are original??? LOL Sure they are. There is no defending what's being allowed to happen on the border now.

You're not even worthy of typing Mark Levin's name on your sticky keyboard. You're a chimp compared to him. LOL

July 14, 2014 at 10:50 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Gassy is the only one with original thoughts. After all, he's the smartest guy in the room. Just ask him.

July 14, 2014 at 11:04 p.m.
alprova said...

Fairmon wrote: "The UAW can open an office in any location desired. There will not be a majority of VW employees stupid enough to become associated with a leach like the UAW. VW does not "want" people to join the UAW but cannot state that publicly and alienate the works councils."

That Sir, is called spin. If VW wanted nothing to do with the UAW, it would come right out and say so.

You anti-union people simply cannot fathom a scenario where unions and management work well together for a common good.

Which explains why some of you have worked for peanuts most of your lives, and loved it.

July 15, 2014 at 12:24 a.m.
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