published Wednesday, July 23rd, 2014

Prayers needed to lift America — and more letters to the editors

Prayers needed to lift America

America is in a mess. And it began on the heels of World War II.

Why? Because we came from the war feeling smug and invincible. Then prosperity began. And this Christian nation did what she was warned not to do. She forgot God. Deuteronomy 28:49-52 explains clearly what is happening now. It's spot on.

The only remedy is for America to turn back to God. It begins with genuine repentance and unified prayers going up to the God we forgot.

I am doing my part. Will you?

EDNA BOGUE, Henagar, Ala.


Hazlewood gets support

I am writing in strong support of Patsy Hazlewood for Tennessee state representative for District 27.

I have known Patsy for a number of years and admired her effective leadership in the business and civic arenas. She's smart, practical and works well with a wide variety of people.

She will do an excellent job for District 27 and advance the interests of southeastern Tennessee in Nashville.

DANA B. PERRY


Nothing is free, after all

What follows is a plea for some simple economic common sense in the public discourse.

The federal government reported recently that the deficit for the current fiscal year will be the least of any incurred during the Obama years -- just under $600 billion, which means the U.S. Treasury borrows about $1.6 billion per day.

The debt on the federal budget is now well over $17 trillion, an amount that cannot realistically ever be repaid even at the current record-low interest rates.

In other words, we have been living far beyond our means, and the piper will be paid one way or another. Higher taxes? Confiscation? Inflation?

Meanwhile, your writers have written recently of "free contraceptives" and "savings for women," and quite literally "free lunch" (for most Hamilton County students).

Contraceptives and lunch may be given at someone else's expense, but they are not and can never be free. "Free lunch" will be taxpayer-subsidized, but it cannot be free, and it doesn't much matter if those taxpayers are paying county or federal taxes.

A distinction without a difference.

GARY LINDLEY, Lookout Mountain, Ga.

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LibDem said...

Darn, Ms. EDNA BOGUE. I just dropped my prayer rug off at the cleaners.

July 23, 2014 at 6:44 a.m.
wallyworld said...

And whose god should we pray to? Whoever claims responsibility for this mess we're in under their care, I refuse to acknowledge as my god ~ he/she is just hateful and vengeful.

July 23, 2014 at 7:34 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

Just how is America worse off since WWII? If you are minority, female, gay, under 18, or disabled you are better off now.

July 23, 2014 at 8:13 a.m.
LibDem said...

I think, Mr. GARY LINDLEY, that you've figured it out. It's women and children who're wasting all that money.

July 23, 2014 at 8:26 a.m.
librul said...

Dearest Edna -

The problems of our world will NEVER be solved by people on their knees with their eyes shut.

July 23, 2014 at 9:04 a.m.
conservative said...

Did you ever notice how one word - "God" brings out those who are against Him?

July 23, 2014 at 9:14 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

I'm not against god any more than I'm against Spiderman.

July 23, 2014 at 9:18 a.m.
Rickaroo said...

Edna Bogue, I think your choice of adjectives to describe Americans after WW2 is completely wrong: "Smug and invincible??" Hardly! I think that, first and foremost, Americans were joyous and relieved that the war was over. Beyond that, proud and confident...and rightly so.

As for the prosperity that followed, what's wrong with that?? For the next 3 decades following the war more Americans were able to share in the American Dream than at any time prior or since. Then what happened? Reagan came on the scene with his massive deregulation and huge tax cuts for the wealthy; and to go along with that, the "Christian Coalition" started puffing up its chest and talking like you, inserting itself into politics and preaching how America needed to return to God and prayer. It has been downhill ever since.

No, we do not need more prayer and a return to God. We need zealous evangelicals like you to simply shut up and stay the hell out of government and politics. America is NOT, nor was it ever intended to be, a Christian nation. So pray at home and at your church all you want to, but the problems we face today need sane, serious minded people of reason and logic to confront them with sane, rational solutions.

If I were to pray at all, I would pray for the Rapture to come quickly and whisk all you evangelicals away, to get you out of our politics once and for all, so that we might get some sanity back in our government and society.

July 23, 2014 at 10:54 a.m.
Rickaroo said...

Doggone it, Mr. Lindley, you are one smart dude. We libs thought we could sneak it past you guys by calling it free and not talking about the tax thing. But obviously you're on to us. Yep, taxes do indeed pay for things like contraceptives and "free" lunches for school kids. We're sorry. We know it's better for the rich and everybody else not to have to pay taxes for those things, that way the rich can get richer while the kids go hungry and more women get pregnant and then seek out abortions. Damn taxes! Outright stealing from the rich to pay for things like infrastructure, our national parks, fire and police protection, education, the health and well-being of our citizens. But who needs that, right? Better for everybody to keep their money and live in a banana republic than to pay for having a well functioning society, eh? After all, this nation was founded on the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of money, was it not?

July 23, 2014 at 3:49 p.m.
Plato said...

It never ceases to amaze me how some conservatives are more than happy to shove not billions but trillions of dollars onto the government credit card to pay for some ill conceived war in some godforsaken part of the world but then howl to high heaven over paying for lunches for the children of American citizens.

One has to wonder how they ever evolved into such a convoluted sense of priorities.

July 23, 2014 at 5:55 p.m.
una61 said...

Since "God" knows everything about everybody all the time what's the need for prayer. She already knows but chooses not to intervene.

July 23, 2014 at 7:03 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

WE PREACH CHRIST JESUS CRUCIFIED

Scoffers, get ready. You will soon find out who The Lord God of Hosts IS. He does have a limit and end to His striving with scoffers.

Psalms 2

" Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? ...He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.Then shall He speak unto them in His wrath, and vex them in His sore displeasure."

Malleus Deum Verum

July 24, 2014 at 12:28 a.m.
Rickaroo said...

What a sad little existence, to waste so much of it on self-righteously admonishing others as to whether they are going to mythological heaven or mythological hell. Dare to take your blinders off, Mr. Orr. It's quite liberating to see the Bible for the book of fairy tales that is and to think for yourself.

July 24, 2014 at 5:25 a.m.

Just when you think christian Fundy-NutZ can't get any crazier, there's Ken Ham. Remember Ken Ham? He's the Fundy-NutZ who attempted to debate Bill Nye over the explanation of existence and promptly had his ass handed to him in small, communion-wafer sized bits.

Now Ken Ham is saying that any extraterrestrial (alien)life found by NASA is "Going to Hell" as NASA is seeking to prove evolution and that, my friends, is against some dude named Jehovah. Make Jehovah mad and his little non-material body justs shakes and shimmies with anger until he causes earthquakes, floods, and disease to kill innocent people.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/22/ken-ham-aliens-go-to-hell_n_5608368.html

But maybe Jehovah's plan is to have Alien Jesus born to an Alien Mary and deliver the Aliens from the sin of Alien Adam. Of course that makes as much sense as the rest of the fundies interpretation of the Bible.

(Here's the secret photo Ken Ham doesn't want you to see. http://i.imgur.com/JsHQeOM.jpg )

Fundy-NutZ — proof that thinking isn't allowed by invisible gods.

July 24, 2014 at 1:56 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

WE PREACH JESUS CHRIST CRUCIFIED

John 3:36``~Jesus said,

"He that believeth on The Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not The Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him."

~~~Malleus Deum Verum~~~

July 25, 2014 at 6 p.m.

Deuteronomy 22:28-29 New International Version (NIV)

"28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels[a] of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives."

Those good ol' Bible stories about morality including rape, incest, and murder condoned by Jehovah, Jesus, and the Holy Ghostbuster.

The Bible is full of it. Read it and weep with laughter.

So if Jehovah and Jesus are the same person, didn't Jesus commit incest with his mother?

July 25, 2014 at 6:34 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

+++WE PREACH JESUS CHRIST CRUCIFIED+++

So you think God The Father had sex with Mary? Did He only allow Jesus to develop in her womb and then be delivered? You 'will' have all your questions answered, as will I.

Mark 11:26 King James Bible: "But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses."

Mark 11:26 NIV 'Bible?' Alert, Alert, Alert!!!

This verse is completely missing from the NIV! Please, go try to sell your bag of goods to someone else!

~~~Malleus Deum Verum~~~

July 25, 2014 at 11:02 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

+++WE PREACH JESUS CHRIST CRUCIFIED+++

The NIV has removed 17 entire verses, and major portions of at least 147 verses!

The NIV removes a total of 64,576 words, which is 8% of God’s word.

The NIV removes wonderful Bible “terms” like Jehovah, Godhead, remission, regeneration, impute and propitiation.

And now the newly updated 2011 NIV Bible has been changed to be ‘politically correct’ and ‘gender neutral’.

So they do much more than make the Bible easier to read, they change the truths of God, which is deception.

http://christianitybeliefs.org/the-most-accurate-bible-translation-comparison-and-deception/

~~~Malleus Deum Verum~~~

July 25, 2014 at 11:15 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

Did God lie when he wrote the part about the global flood? It did not happen.

July 26, 2014 at 6:47 a.m.

Orr wrote: "So you think God The Father had sex with Mary?"

According to your Bible, Jehovah and his crowd loves sex with virgins, incest, rape, and murder so I wouldn't put it past him. Today the old goat would be in jail for sexual child abuse by an authority figure.

You also believe that sex with children is OK? Are you a NAMBLA member as well?

"And now the newly updated 2011 NIV Bible has been changed to be ‘politically correct’ and ‘gender neutral’."

Well, Jehovah might be gay, a lesbian, transgendered, or a cross-dresser, and wear 9-inch stilettos to work. Does he wear Prada? I bet he ditched those long flowing robes for something more sensible eons ago.

What is the latest fashion for imaginary gods these days?

I'm still waiting for Jehovah to bring me an autographed copy of the Bible. Until that happens I'll keep Jehovah in the same category as astrology, fortune-telling, creationism, and Sasquatch — pure fiction.

You still offer no evidence of any gods, saviors, or virgin births. None.

That's the reason we keep Fundy-NutZ beliefs out of public schools. science

July 26, 2014 at 8:39 a.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

+++WE PREACH CHRIST JESUS CRUCIFIED+++

Your argument, I assure You, is not with me, it is with 'Your Creator'.......therefore/ergo...

You Lose! FOREVER! ETERNALLY!

Scoffers, get ready. You will soon find out who The Lord God of Hosts IS. He does have a limit and end to His striving with scoffers.

Psalms 2

" Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? ...He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: The Lord shall have them in derision.Then shall He speak unto them in His wrath, and vex them in His sore displeasure."

Malleus Deum Verum

July 24, 2014 at 12:28 a.m. permalink

July 26, 2014 at 11:46 a.m.

Orr the Bore wrote:

"Your argument, I assure You, is not with me, it is with 'Your Creator'."

I have no arguments with my parents but deep thanks for teaching me the difference between myth and reality.

Still you offer no evidence but bible gibberish.

"He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: The Lord shall have them in derision. Then shall He speak unto them in His wrath, and vex them in His sore displeasure."

Haven't had a good vexing in quite some time, nor am I sore. But your little imaginary god seems to have a bad case of hemorrhoids from all that throne sitting. Tell Jehovah more fiber and less wrath.

Yourus Fulus Crapus, Orr. That's the reason we keep you and your foolish ideas out of public schools and warn children about Fundy-NutZ.

July 26, 2014 at 12:08 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

+++WE PREACH CHRIST JESUS CRUCIFIED+++

I will be still and silent now as The Lord God of Hosts Speaks to you. Amen.

Malleus Deum

July 26, 2014 at 12:29 p.m.

ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

"I will be still and silent now as The Lord God of Hosts Speaks to you. Amen."

Then tell him to speak English as I'm not fluent in bible gibberish. Be sure and pass on that hint about more fiber. That may help his grapes of wrath.

Still can't present any evidence of Jehovah or Jesus? I understand why you are silent when confronted with history, science, and reality by people who don't buy into your delusions.

Yourus Fulus Crapus, Orr. That's the reason we keep you and your foolish ideas out of public schools and warn children about Fundy-NutZ.

July 26, 2014 at 12:45 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

Ken, you did not answer my question.

July 26, 2014 at 1 p.m.
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