published Sunday, June 8th, 2014

The Candidate

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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GameOn said...

D.C. was sold to the highest bidder a long time ago. We don't have more than 1% of our elected officials representing us.

June 8, 2014 at 12:31 a.m.

Exactly, GameOn. Bennett has indicates Congress on there, but he should include POTUS on there as well.

June 8, 2014 at 1:06 a.m.
Plato said...

Clay nailed it. They should be made to wear NASCAR style coveralls with the logos of all their big donors patched on. That way we would at least know who purchased them. Call it "truth in advertising".

June 8, 2014 at 8:17 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

^^^ 5 stars, Plato

June 8, 2014 at 10:03 a.m.
limric said...

Good cartoon today Clay. As have been some other recent offerings.

I’ve posted this before but today’s subject warrants a reprise:

It’s high time the populace of this country to finally admit to themselves (as I have) that the United States government, our government - “A nation, conceived in Liberty. A government of the people, by the people, for the people" has been transformed into a vast criminal enterprise, whose sole purpose is to provide the means by which the predator class legalizes and carries out its program of fraud, theft, exploitation, conquest and domination. We now live in a land with a lawless (un)-representative government; where the powerful and important make, then break the law, and never be brought to account.

What’s being passed off come 2016 elections amount to no more than a competition between debased and rancid crime families for temporary supremacy in the role of head of the District of Columbia's chief Mafia consigliores’ and enforcers.

Our vaunted leaders are no more than the vanguard of an army of brazen and soulless Mafiosi bureaucrats who think nothing of engaging in acts of fraud, theft, mass murder, torture, brutality, and the literal destruction of planet earth in order to feed their insatiable lust for wealth beyond the dreams of avarice, as well as the deviant joy that all sociopathic/imbecilic personalities experience from the infliction of suffering in others.

According to the Declaration of Independence, governments "derive their just powers from the consent of the governed" -- alas, today that "consent" amounts to nothing more than the sheep being ‘allowed’ a choice of whether to appoint a blue wolf or a red wolf, chosen - not by consensus, but fiat by elites as representatives/guardians of the flock.

If that reality is to ever change, it will have to come from outside accepted channels of political redress (tax strike anyone?), which as things currently stand amount to no more than the plank strapped precariously over the sea. It matters not that you are cast into the azure deep, for the pirate ship of state already has your booty.

A quote from Kafka's "The Trial" comes to mind:

“It is not necessary to accept everything as true, one must only accept it as necessary. A melancholy conclusion,” says Josef. “It turns lying into a universal principle.”

June 8, 2014 at 10:43 a.m.

"Brazen and soulless" is right on the mark. D.C. is as corrupt as any criminal enterprise could be. "crime families" is right on the mark, as well. Clinton vs Bush?? That's a possibility. The general news media is bought and paid as well. We're not even given the respect or consideration "sheep" would get. We're just expendable. Eisenhower was dead on about the military industrial complex, and, as much as I believe in capitalism, corporations/ lobbyists make me want to vomit. We're being run by the Government and the police state is getting stronger.

June 8, 2014 at 12:55 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Being run by the government is the Statist wet-dream.

June 8, 2014 at 1:14 p.m.
fairmon said...

Limric ask...If that reality is to ever change, it will have to come from outside accepted channels of political redress (tax strike anyone?

It is unfortunate there are too few with the bravery to take any action. There is no longer a hunger for freedom as in that famous quote of "give me liberty or give me death". Oh me, that may not be politically correct!

June 8, 2014 at 1:56 p.m.

fairmon, I agree. A tax strike might the be only things, accept that we're living in a tyranny of some kind, a police state for sure. Some people might that's an extreme statement, but I stick to it. Those greedy bastards in D.C. will never give up their gold mine and will punish anyone who tries.

They're all in on it, GOP, Dems, BO, Senate, Congress, and most importantly, the bureaucracy. Look at all the wealthy, and getting wealthier, areas around D.C. populated by bureaucrats and D.C. elites.

BO wouldn't be able to get away with a lot he's doing if everyone wasn't in on it.

June 8, 2014 at 3:16 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

z-buster sez we have a police state, yet I'll bet he voted for Reagan, Bush the Younger, and probably Nixon if he was old enough to vote back then. One should always think about what one asks for with power of the ballot.

And for you and fairmon, there is nothing to stop you from paying (income) tax if that is your desire, why are you waiting for us?

June 8, 2014 at 5:15 p.m.

I bet when you voted for BO, inq, you didn't expect him to tighten the police state even more. "one should always think about what one asks for with the power of the ballot". You didn't learn from history. Most dictatorial types sweep into office as lefties promising open- ness and reform. Sucker.

I was old enough to vote for Nixon or Reagan.

June 8, 2014 at 5:36 p.m.

You should have "eschewed" watching your steady diet of MSPMS, CNN, PBS, NBC, ABC, CBS, then you wouldn't have bought into the fraud that is Obatguano.

June 8, 2014 at 5:41 p.m.

that should be I wasn't old enough to vote for Nixon or Reagan

June 8, 2014 at 5:41 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Ol' JD voted for Eisenhower. (JK)

June 8, 2014 at 6:20 p.m.

The 1950's are the years libs love to make fun of. I'll take the Eisenhower years over the BO years any day.

June 8, 2014 at 6:46 p.m.
GameOn said...

limric....I agree 100%. We have elected Public Serpents instead of Public Servants for way too long.

June 8, 2014 at 9:46 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

Ah, still wet behind the ears, that explains a lot, Z.

To his credit, Eisenhower said war is an evil thing and saw what the military-industrial complex would devolve into, that does not make him a great statesman or noble person.

Why would I be surprised that President Obama has continued a civilian spy program that began in the Reagan era, not in the J.E. Hoover era? Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. His damage to civil liberty is not to be ignored but pales in comparison to those excesses of Hoover and Bush.

The post-war 1950's gave us all the social ills you guys like to lament, it created the migration of African Americans to Northern cities and break down of the family, Viet Nam, it revealed the hypocrisy of wealth and the seduction of leisure, and fed the growth of the technological state as a reaction to the Great Depression and WWII. At least I got a good education out of it. I learned also from the 1950's that the media is a propaganda machine for the status quo aimed at weak brains, so you Reds ought to wake up while you watch FOX or listen to Rush Limberger, and any Blues that watch their favorite broadcasters except for entertainment have no excuse either. The humor is quite good and ironic, though.

I should have said to fairman, there is nothing to stop you from refusing to pay income tax, why wait for us?

Peace,

June 8, 2014 at 10:24 p.m.
rengerry said...

It's safe to say you're ALL bloody idiots. Everybody here is so stuck on the idea of "my way or the highway" that nothing gets accomplished except blame. I don't give a flying fornication about Republican'ts or Democraps when no one wants to gets things done that may mean someone has to "compromise." Odds are every one of you morons are stuck on the idea of voting for your party no matter how crappy they are. That way, nothing gets done, everyone but the incumbent loses, and you morons come back here to blame the same people you always blame in the comments. But hey, your guy got elected, right?

June 8, 2014 at 10:48 p.m.

rengerry, you're dead wrong. There's not much difference between the two parties, and they're both corrupt beyond words. I have no idea how I'll vote in the future, and I have no loyalty to the GOP.

Pales my ass, if he's continuing it then he's just as responsible for it because he's perpetuating it.

"Reds" i like how you libs control the dialogue...if anyone is red it would be the Democrat Party..red as in commie wannabes.

Eisenhower was noble, and a solid statesman. I disagree with you. BO chewing gum at the Normandy commemoration and taking "selfies" at the Mandela memorial is beneath the office and insulting.

I'm not so wet behind the ears to not be able to recognize undignified behavior when I see it, especially from the POTUS.

Regarding Limbaugh, you libs never listen to his show so how can you know anything about him. What you think about him is filtered through your lib pundits and tv shows.

Talk radio is hated by you libs because you've failed at it. It's important for the citizenry to be able to voice their opinions, right or left. Talk radio makes that happen.

June 8, 2014 at 11:27 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

IQ says "The post-war 1950's gave us all the social ills you guys like to lament, it created the migration of African Americans to Northern cities and break down of the family.." How was that, IQ?

June 8, 2014 at 11:31 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

read your history, jack.

June 8, 2014 at 11:40 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

^^ wow, great response. you clearly have no idea.

June 8, 2014 at 11:43 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Susan Rice says (apparently with a straight face) “I don’t think the criticism has been fair,” she said. “I think the fact of the matter is we’re living in complex times, there are many different challenges that the United States and the world faces. But our leadership is unmatched. Our role is indispensable."

June 9, 2014 at 12:07 a.m.
inquiringmind said...

After you've gone to the library and done a little in-depth research on the subject, come back and have an intelligent conversation on it, jack.

To help you get started, answer a few questions: 1. Why and when did the migration of African-Americans to northern cities occur? 2. What is the difference in de facto and de jure segregation? 3. What is the consequence of a high urban population density of low skilled workers when the job opportunities are low? 4. Why is the percentage of home ownership in the population of Mississippi higher than any other state? 5. What was the consequence to the Southern Democratic Party as a result of Lyndon Johnson supporting and pushing through the Civil Rights Act? 6.How are the circumstances of African American families in the urban ghetto similar to those of families supported by "Caucasian" aka "white" males in urban domains during the Great Depression? 7. Why is the percentage of external giving ( for non-operating expense) by religious congregations low and decreasing? 8. How is the effect of poverty in rural/farming communities different from the effect in urban environments? 9. What is the effect of loss of the extended family on family dynamics? 10. Why is the percentage of income for charitable giving higher in low income brackets than high income brackets, and why is financial inequity increasing, not decreasing?

I could go on, but if you do honest, diligent and unbiased research on just these ten questions (yes I cheated, Number 10 is two questions), you'll find your way to the truth and it will set you free.

June 9, 2014 at 12:07 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

IQ, you're working Google overtime tonite, pal. It's simple. Just blame the white devils.

June 9, 2014 at 12:11 a.m.
inquiringmind said...

Google is hardly the place to start unless you are really good at separating wheat from chaff. Guess the idea of finding truth daunts you.

June 9, 2014 at 12:27 a.m.
fairmon said...

The impact of MSNBC on some participants here is evident. Why not watch more than one news source? It is evident when the truth is not being told and the news slanted but it also gives more than one view on an issue.

It is a good thing some members of congress are influenced by a business person or unemployment may be around 30% or more. How many government dependent and poor people employee and pay others to work in their business? The number of businesses failing and closing is alarmingly high but never reported on by the media.

Is there any successful business that does not pass on to the consumer any cost of taxes, fees and other legislated cost? It is unbelievable how many join in the political rhetoric about how bad those businesses are and how they should pay more taxes or fees. So, if the consumer is going to pay any tax or government imposed cost why require them to pay any taxes? Zero business tax and other imposed cost would be revenue neutral or actually increase revenue resulting from increased exports, consumer purchases and increased jobs to meet demand. More businesses would expand and many would move their operations to the U.S.

June 9, 2014 at 2:25 a.m.
fairmon said...

Obama and others love to bash businesses but their largest contributors are business people and unions. Could it be that politicians are black mailing businesses instead of businesses controlling politicians? Who has the most power to affect the other?

June 9, 2014 at 2:30 a.m.
fairmon said...

Where are alprova, wally and others that used to post often here?

June 9, 2014 at 2:32 a.m.

fairmon, you may be right.

The White House is asking Congress for 1.4 billion to help feed, house, and take care of in general all the illegal aliens being dumped here over the last month. Most are children. This is unbelievable. BO and Holder have chosen to not enforce the law. Why not ask Congress for 1.4 billion to just to hand out to everyone who is struggling to pay their mortgage? If they're in a giving mood, why not give it to citizens? This is insane.

June 9, 2014 at 8:48 a.m.
inquiringmind said...

Z, your compassion overwhelms me; why not feed the "illegal alien" children to the cookie monster, have them clean the floor in your church, or at least sell them on the slave trade market so we can help you with your mortgage? After all, upstanding citizens like you are privileged and owed something for your loyalty, aren't they? Heavens to Betsey, oh my goodness, if you had to rent.

June 9, 2014 at 10:02 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

IQ, What are you doing to feed the children?

June 9, 2014 at 10:08 a.m.
conservative said...

inquiringmind said...

con-man is at it again, with his twins - Why wait for facts and justice, let's just go ahead and judge and punish him now, that is what lynch mobs are good for.

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There you go again with your false accusations and straw men. Now, you post one thing I wrote to back up your claims or I will repeatedly confront you with YOUR claims.

Everything I have written so far is either a fact or Bergdahl's own words.

You either back up your claims or apologize.

June 9, 2014 at 10:11 a.m.

inq, that's a typical liberal response/diversion tactic.

We're the most compassionate country on earth, and when I'm successful I help out quite a bit, but this is a disaster created and perpetuated for political gain by a narcissistic and corrupt President. Your knee-jerk liberal comment is clownish. In fact, not just by BO, but by both parties.

June 9, 2014 at 10:14 a.m.

Mexico is holding a U.S. Marine in prison for frivolous reasons, one of which is going over the border. Mexico dumps illegals in this country because they're country is screwed up.

Damn right we "privileged" and upstanding, and tax paying citizens should be give MASSIVE consideration, as well as those that come into our country the lawful and proper way.

These desperate people are being used. The POTUS should be impeached for continually breaking the law, and not enforcing it. He endangering this country by doing virtually nothing to stop criminals, and possibly disease carrying individuals, from entering the country at will.

June 9, 2014 at 10:21 a.m.

Under Obatguano citizens have been downgraded, and illegal aliens criminals from Mexico and central America have been elevated to a special class. You libs are mentally ill.

June 9, 2014 at 10:29 a.m.
inquiringmind said...

Jack my man, that is between God and me as your behavior is between God and you.

Con-man, glad you are back! Now maybe we can get down to brass tacks concerning your quick-draw judgmental behavior, especially of those who you think are practicing errant behavior that is repulsive to you:

Let's look at Romans 2:1-16. I'll paraphrase it but you can read the full text yourself, be sure to go back and read Chapter 1 as well:

"No matter who you are, you condemn yourself when you pass judgment on another person for sinning, for actually, you are doing the same thing. You know God will judge those who sin but who do you imagine yourself to be, to judge others for sin when you are a foul sinner yourself? Do you think you can avoid God’s judgment? Even one who sins apart from the law suffers apart from the law, everyone who sins under the law is judged under the law, because it does no good only to hear the law, it only does good to be righteous. When someone who does not possess the law instinctively does what the law requires, which is to love God above everything else and love your neighbor the same way, that someone has the law written on their heart and bears witness to it. That person's behavior and heart will suffice or not on judgment day. God knows what is written in the heart. Heed these words.”

And so con-man that is why I said I try to love you anyway and pray you lose your judgmental ways. They aren't good for either of us, as you can read.

June 9, 2014 at 10:32 a.m.

Why stop at just letting them cross the border at will, and rewarding them? How about using the Military to evict citizens from their homes and give their homes to illegal aliens at no cost?

June 9, 2014 at 10:34 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

IQ has de jure moral high ground. In her mind.

June 9, 2014 at 10:37 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

zab, 10:32. That would make a lot of Dems extremely happy. And lock up hundreds of thousands more votes.

June 9, 2014 at 10:39 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

IQ says "Jack my man, that is between God and me as your behavior is between God and you." Hokay, Q, but that sounds like an evasion to me

June 9, 2014 at 10:49 a.m.

Jack, yeah, that's what it's all about. When it suits them, libs pull out Bible verses as if that's justification for breaking the law and taking advantage of illegal aliens politically.

Illegal aliens crossing over the border are for the most part uneducated, and used to be bullied around by drug cartels, thugs and the government. So, they're easy pickins for manipulative politicians in this country, which would be almost all of them.

They'll go with whoever gives them the most stuff, which is how even the most educated of libs in this country are reeled in by the Democrat Party.

June 9, 2014 at 10:52 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...
June 9, 2014 at 11:20 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Secretary of State John Kerry on Sunday called concerns that some of the recently-freed Taliban leaders could resume their violent anti-U.S. campaign “a lot of baloney." Unfreakinbelievable

June 9, 2014 at 11:38 a.m.
inquiringmind said...

surely you jest, no one has a higher moral ground ;-)

June 9, 2014 at 11:46 a.m.
conservative said...

Inquiringmind

You have judged him (like you do anyone who does not adhere to your rigid interpretation of OT law) and your twin-friend Z-bister also, both in complete ignorance of the law, and keep insisting the guy is a deserter.

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Now, you brazenly lie!

June 9, 2014 at 12:08 p.m.

Jack, that's unbelievable, particularly in light of the fact that one of them flat out said he's going to get back right at it. This administration is the worst assembled in US history. It's not that they lie, and no one has ever lied before, but they actually believe no one is capable of accessing information in this "information age" to disprove what they claim. Unbelievable arrogance and narcissism. BO and Hellary, in particular, think that if they give an angry look or yell, we'll just stop asking questions.

June 9, 2014 at 12:47 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

con-man exactly what are you trying to say?

June 9, 2014 at 12:48 p.m.

BO broke the law, the guy deserted and the terrorists we gave up WILL resume where they left off. Those are all facts.

June 9, 2014 at 12:52 p.m.
conservative said...

Inquiringmind said

You have judged him (like you do anyone who does not adhere to your rigid interpretation of OT law) and your twin-friend Z-bister also, both in complete ignorance of the law, and keep insisting the guy is a deserter.

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Now, you brazenly lie!

June 9, 2014 at 12:53 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

Z, you are trying to have your cake and eat it too.

BO did what Bush the Younger did, he wrote an exception to the law when he signed it, ergo by Bush's interpretation, if that is what you refer to by "breaking the law," no law was broken - complain to Bush.

There is no legal basis to allege desertion or even that he went AWOL, only hearsay. There is no evidence anyone was killed looking for him, only hearsay from a dysfunctional military unit. Even if he went AWOL he was captured prior to 29 days making desertion an improper charge. He was promoted while in captivity, hmmm. Maybe it was a ploy on our part to infiltrate the Taliban...hmmm.

There is no way you can predict the future as to what those 5 folks might do, I'm sure our imprisonment hardened them, and you have no way to know what manner of sleuthing has been done to track them, they might even have turned.

Armchair quarterbacking always seems to be a fun hobby to pass the time when you have no desire to find something constructive to do, or are a talking head on TV/Radio.

June 9, 2014 at 1:02 p.m.

There you go smearing the unit "dysfunctional"

You libs always try and control the dialogue. The soldiers in the unit are being discredited and there first hand account doesn't count, but your label of "dysfunctional" sticks? He deserted, he walked off and then was held by the Taliban. Soldiers died looking for him. That's a fact as well. What makes it a fact? They're dead.

"prison has hardened them" nice set up...so what you're saying is if they weren't imprisoned they would kinder and gentler? They WILL resume where they left off. "turn" You do realize the Islamofacist war on anyone who does not believe has been going on since 500a.d. long before the US was around. It was a horrendous blunder on the part of Obatguano to release those 5. Why should I take your word that they won't kill Americans again when one of them said he would.

Bergdahl is a deserter, and has even blasted America.

What you libs do is smear when you're losing the debate.

June 9, 2014 at 1:17 p.m.

You libs are arrogant. His platoon mates'words, who were there, obviously, don't matter/not to be believed, nor their character, and one of the Taliban terrorists released said he will kill Americans, and that doesn't count either. The note he left doesn't count either. What does count, your interpretation?

June 9, 2014 at 1:20 p.m.
conservative said...

inquiringmind said...

con-man is at it again, with his twins - Why wait for facts and justice, let's just go ahead and judge and punish him now, that is what lynch mobs are good for.

====================

There you go again with your false accusations and straw men. Now, you post one thing I wrote to back up your claims or I will repeatedly confront you with YOUR claims.

Everything I have written so far is either a fact or Bergdahl's own words.

You either back up your claims or apologize.

June 9, 2014 at 1:31 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

z-bister - You ought to read all the news including the ones you don't like, not just the selected one you chose to believe. For example the NYT reports," The platoon was, an American military official would assert years later, “raggedy.” ...Their first platoon leader, and then their first platoon sergeant, were replaced relatively early in the deployment because of problems....an internal Army investigation into the episode concluded that the platoon suffered from lapses in discipline and security in the period before Sergeant Bergdahl — a private first class at the time who was promoted while in captivity — ...His former platoon mates gave sharply contradictory accounts of how Sergeant Bergdahl viewed the war, and America’s proper role in it....Their platoon commander, who some described as less than inspiring, was relieved weeks into the deployment, replaced by the platoon’s sergeant first class, who was popular and respected by the troops. Then, a few months later, the sergeant found himself in trouble after pictures appeared online ..." so go figure what story you want to believe in the fog of an illegal war Bush started and Congress allowed to continue.

Con-man, I still am not sure what point you are trying to make, are you saying you are not part of a lynch mob conducting an ad hoc, extrajudicial trial, Or you are part of a lynch mob conducting an ad hoc, extrajudicial trial?

June 9, 2014 at 3:59 p.m.
conservative said...

inquiringmind

No, I am saying that you have lied!

I have posted your false accusations several times which are lies.

You of course know you have lied because you can not post any words of mine to substantiate your accusations (lies).

I told you that I would continue to confront you until you apologize for your brazen lies!

June 9, 2014 at 4:26 p.m.
dude_abides said...

White supremacist cop killers. When will it end? Rabid tea bagger anti government desperadoes loosing their revolution on Walmart shoppers! How embarrassing it must be to be in their ideological fold!

June 9, 2014 at 4:34 p.m.

Meanwhile the fed. government is flying illegal aliens into el paso and dropping them off.

That's all well and good inq. but that doesn't tell me he wasn't a deserter. As I said before, you libs smear people in order to get your way. He deserted, he wasn't sleeping his tent and the Taliban decided to capture him only, and he's not some drunken soldier who didn't return to his base on time. He left, walked away from his platoon and the rest is history. Attacking the character of the other soldiers doesn't make his actions look any better. Whether he didn't like his platoon or not, means zero.

He blasted America and the military, that's on record. That came out of his mouth, not theirs.

Dude, "white supremacists"? If that's what they were why did they shoot two white cops and another white lady?

June 9, 2014 at 4:54 p.m.

Illegal aliens being shuffled around by the fed. government and dropped off here and making no attempt to arrest them or put them back over the border, the POTUS letting loose 5 top terrorists, the Attorney General refusing to enforce laws. And you libs think the federal government is ok and critics of it are crazy? Liberalism is a disease.

June 9, 2014 at 4:57 p.m.

There have been quite a few judges and law professors who have stated that BO broke the law. Just because the Senate and the House don't have the balls to do something about it, doesn't mean he didn't do it. He's black, or half black, so he's untouchable...and the media will go to any lengths to protect their golden lefty child.

inq. I suppose the parents who lost a son in the search for Bergdahl made up that they had a son, huh? His parents spoke out last week.

No matter what you say you can't make Obatguano look good. He's a lawless turd who knows he can't be touched because of his ideology and race. He's a smug, preening, narcissist and a self- promoter. He's a fraud and the current head of the mafia that is D.C.

June 9, 2014 at 5:06 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

The burning question is, When, and how, did America get so stupid?

June 9, 2014 at 5:08 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

so far there is no evidence anyone "lost their life" looking for Bergdahl, just some rightfully upset parents among many who lost their son in an illegal war and are looking for scapegoats. Unfortunately the one who started it isn't in office and the one who is in office is being impeded from stopping it by the Reds in Congress.

Z's posts are now going flagrantly racist, sez he, "He's black, or half black, so he's untouchable...he can't be touched because of his ideology and race." General Forrest would be proud of you.

Con-man go back and read any of your prior posts over the last few months where you've carried on about someone's sin and being locked out of heaven, no one needs to lie to show your judgmental character.

June 9, 2014 at 5:14 p.m.

You libs don't even know how much trouble we're in. All you seem to care about is making sure Obatguano look good. limiric said at some point that Obatguano is the biggest fraud ever perpetrated on the American people. Or, something similar. He's right. You don't even see that it's all one big mass of power comprised of Dems, GOP, bureaucrats, corporations, unions, chambers of commerce, and military folks. You're loyalty to the Democrat Party is a waste of time. Look at how both parties are working together to not defend the borders.

June 9, 2014 at 5:18 p.m.
conservative said...

inquiringmind:

Changing the subject will not change the fact that you lied!

June 9, 2014 at 5:18 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

IQ says "so far there is no evidence anyone "lost their life" looking for Bergdahl, just some rightfully upset parents among many who lost their son in an illegal war and are looking for scapegoats." That may be true, Q, but the parents may be right, also. No?

June 9, 2014 at 5:19 p.m.

inq. sorry you don't scare me. You libs try and control the dialogue. It's not going to work. Nobody wantS to do something about his lawlessness because he's the first black president. If anyone criticizes him the race card is pulled asap. You libs think only you are allowed to bring up race. You want race to be an issue so it will distract from the real issue which is his lawlessness, the lawlessness of the fed. government, and our ever growing police state.

June 9, 2014 at 5:23 p.m.
dude_abides said...

zablee... Is that distinction important to you? You agree the tea bag tie, but take issue that white supremacists may be wrongly implicated?

June 9, 2014 at 5:25 p.m.
conservative said...

inquiringmind

The question for all religions is how one can be right with their particular god/God.

Christianity is the ONLY religion whereby one is made right with God apart from doing good works.

However, the majority of PROFESSING/FALSE Christians also believe they too are made right with God through doing good works/performing some ritual/ going through some confirmation process/being a good person/ sacraments or some combination of these.

You are one of these. You strongly believe this. I suspect you even went through some infant baptism or some form of baptism and other sacraments and therefore you believe you are going to heaven.

You have believed the doctrines of men and NOT the doctrines of Scripture.

I believe this has a lot to do with why you don't understand Romans chapter 2.

June 9, 2014 at 5:31 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Tea Party/White Supremacists. There is no tie.

June 9, 2014 at 5:38 p.m.

What distinction? What tie? How do you know they belong to the Tea party, dude? You libs are always trying to tie racism to the Tea Party. It's not going to work. Our government is clearly out of control, and corrupt. Trying to connect white supremacy to that is ridiculous. You can be liberal, conservative, Dem or GOP and see that.

June 9, 2014 at 5:41 p.m.
conservative said...

inquiringmind

If you will look at the introduction to Romans in any good study Bible, especially the outlines, you will begin to understand the purpose of Romans and the meaning of Romans chapter 2.

June 9, 2014 at 5:48 p.m.

Just because those fools who shot those cops put a 'don't tread on me flag' over the bodies does not mean they represent the Tea Party folks/conservatives, or government critics, and are white supremacists. No more than black racists/thugs represent all black Americans and Democrats. Extremists are not exclusive to one group. Do blacks who play the knockout game represent all blacks?

June 9, 2014 at 5:54 p.m.
conservative said...

inquiringmind

Romans presents the Gospel, the Good News, of how sinful, bound for hell mankind can be right with God.

The first chapter centers on the condemnation of the Gentiles and their gross sins of Homosexuality and idolatry which the Gentile nations were famous for practicing in the worship of their false gods.

The second chapter centers on the condemnation of the Jew who was the moralist of his day due to having the law and it's commandments but in reality was no better off than the heathen they had contempt for.

The third chapter condemns all humanity.

The fourth chapter begins how mankind is made right (justified) before God apart from works.

June 9, 2014 at 7:49 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

Z I didn't smear the unit dysfunctional, an ARMY investigator did.

June 9, 2014 at 8:48 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

I hate to engage a closed mind but con-man sez, "The question for all religions is how one can be right with their particular god/God., Christianity is the ONLY religion whereby one is made right with God apart from doing good works."

Not entirely evident from Paul, my good friend.

In the letter con-man cites as Paul's summary of the Gospel, and in the verses in Ch 2 he cites, Romans 2:14-16: "When Gentiles, who do not possess the law, do instinctively what the law requires, these, though not having the law, are a law to themselves. They show that what the law requires is written on their hearts, to which their own conscience also bears witness; and their conflicting thoughts will accuse or perhaps excuse them on the day when, according to my gospel, God, through Jesus Christ, will judge the secret thoughts of all. " So Paul himself admits it is possible for a non-believer to enter heaven.

You can get off the floor now.

If you go to seminary and read the texts in their original languages and also explore the thoughts of many commentators, you don't have to reply to someone's self-served interpretation found in a study bible which by necessity is brief and perfunctory. You will realize "Gentile" is a word encompassing all non-Jews, not just Greeks some of whom practiced unusual sexual behavior in their temples. You also would realize that Paul has great compassion for Judaism, that the early "Christians" were Jews who worshipped in the synagogue, not to "convert" their fellows but to celebrate the Lord with them. The Jerusalem revolt turned conservative Jew against Christian Jew. The third chapter acknowledges the fundamental flaw of all humanity, including you.

If you persist in traveling this road, you are going to tie yourself up in contradictory theological knots.

June 9, 2014 at 9:02 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

Con-Man, ever the Biblical scholar. What I find ironic, however, is that the Bible is word-for-word damning people to hell for being homosexuals; that it allows guys like Con-man to be Jesus' earthly judges, BUT if it says something that disproves what Con-Man says, then it is "the words say that, but this is what it implies" or "you're taking the words out of context (sorry about the run-on sentence)". So fake, so opposite of "Christian" is Con-Man.

Now Bergdahl's family is getting death threats; Stay Classy Conservatives.

June 9, 2014 at 9:56 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Lots of Dems not big on Bergdahl. Course the death threats have to be coming from Conservatives.

June 9, 2014 at 10:10 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Estimated 47,000 kids entered U.S. illegally this year. Imagine what it would be like if we didn't have secure borders...Good job Barry.

June 9, 2014 at 10:16 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

sooner or later the large font-caps man will return...

June 9, 2014 at 10:44 p.m.
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