published Thursday, June 12th, 2014

Faith often disparaged and other letters to the editors

Faith often disparaged

Want to increase your public profile instantly? Want to become the celebrity of the hour to a fawning media? Want to capture the attention and admiration of the White House -- even receive a call from the president or first lady? Well, you can! You don't have to save a child from a burning building, thwart a terrorist attack, turn in the names of local tea partiers to the IRS, club a mob of baby seal clubbers, or do anything for the betterment of mankind or the planet. For that matter, you don't need to do anything exceptional. All you have to do is utter two little words: "I'm gay!" Just ask football player Michael Sam, drafted nearly dead last in the NFL, yet heralded by USA Today as "the most important football player in the nation." However, if you're of the mind to be forever shunned by the media (or become its object of derision) and have the leader of the free world lump you in with those pitiable knuckle-draggers who cling to their guns and religion, you need only utter two other words: "I'm Christian."

REGIS NICOLL


Hart column misses the point

Libertarian humorist Ron Hart opens a column with the Margaret Thatcher quote, "The trouble with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." By "other people's money," I presume Hart is referring to the more fortunate; last I checked, we don't seem to be damaging them very much. To quote Hart himself, "Free-market capitalism is a far more virtuous and moral system than government." Hart would have us believe everything private is perfect, or nearly so, and everything public is riddled with error. Here's a quote for Hart and his libertarian friends: "The only problem with capitalism is capitalists. They're too d--- greedy." Herbert Hoover said this after failing to convince the business elite to take some voluntary steps to help the country at the onset of the Great Depression. ... I submit it is manifestly unfair to complain about the public sector without at least a mention of the greed and need for regulation too frequently found on the private side. To quote John McEnroe (speaking about one of his fellow tennis pros complaining that the very large purse of a major tournament was too small), "How much do you need?" How much indeed, and is it ever enough?

BYRON CHAPIN, Hixson

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lkeithlu said...

I don't know anyone who was fired, beaten, driven from their homes, or killed for being Christian in the US.

June 12, 2014 at 7:05 a.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

FOR YOUR SAFETY/SECURITY PLEASE...READ EVERY WORD OF THIS

The first child Adam and Eve, Cain, murdered his own Brother. So, Able was dead...no offspring from him. Cain had, one might say, a multitude of children. What about genetics? Righteous Able murdered with no children. The murderer Cain fathered many, many children, children from a murderous parent. Where did that leave us as we became a part of that lineage? What characteristics, genetic predispositions did we inherit from the first murderer?

It would and did take Someone omnipotent to overcome our ancesteral heratage of rebellious, murderous, predecessors. Even the Koran/Hadith makes it plain that God The Father spoke and His Word was sent into the womb of a virgin, Mary, and His Word became flesh and dwelt among man. Jesus Christ of Nazareth was/is The Only One Worthy to overcome human sin. This done through His sorrowful sufferings and cruel crucifiction and His precious blood shed from Calvary's Cross.

Did God The Father somehow 'clone' His own voice print? Did He somehow utilize the exalted physics of His knowledge and place flesh and bone onto His spoken Word (logos)? In other words, did He, {God is a Spirit-The Bible says}creat a 'God-Man' through a cloneing process? Clone: 'an organism or cell, or group of organisms or cells, produced asexually from one ancestor or stock, to which they are genetically identical.'

https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&q=define+leneage&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8#q=define+clone

Please, for Your Blessing and Security, read the firt chapter of The Gospel of Saint John; Holy Bible, New Testament KJV (only).

June 12, 2014 at 8:22 a.m.
conservative said...

I have a friend who often tells me of all of the Homosexuals/sodomites that are in the mess media and on Television. They seem to be everywhere.

The fact that so many of them are accepted in counterfeit churches and are even in leadership is a sure sign of the depravity and degeneration of a society.

Christians were warned of this evil many centuries ago.

Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution . But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse , deceiving , and being deceived .2 Timothy 3:12-13

June 12, 2014 at 8:24 a.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

Yes, conservative, so very true. Probably, the greatest damage sATAN could ever perpertrate against Christians is to infiltrate the Churches of any nation. What we see advertised as Churches are actually The Houses of sATAN. I say, beware, look very closely, then do not enter these counterfeit dwellings of our adversary.

June 12, 2014 at 8:30 a.m.
conservative said...

Ken, the worse are those who infiltrate the church with their false doctrines, both in leadership and membership.

People not grounded in Scripture can be easily fooled by them. These are often the ones who use the word "love" constantly and "acceptance" and "tolerance" and seldom speak of sin and commitment and are not concerned with the doctrines of Scripture.

For certain persons have crept in unnoticed, those who were long beforehand marked out for this condemnation, ungodly persons who turn the grace of our God into licentiousness and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ. Jude 1:4

June 12, 2014 at 8:52 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

Same woo, different day. And no evidence whatsoever that Christians are discriminated against or persecuted, except of course by TROO Christians (TM) such as you two.

June 12, 2014 at 8:53 a.m.
Ki said...

And I'd like to also remind Mr. Hart the words of Malcolm X: "You can't have capitalism without racism!"

June 12, 2014 at 9:39 a.m.

Mr. Nicoll,

It depends on what type of "Christian" you claim to be.

If you're a homophobic, anti-science, anti-intellectual, know-nothing type of "Christian" yes, it is to be disparaged. The same way I would disparaged slavery, rape, genocide, torture, and misogyny (all Biblically approved by Jehovah).

The hilarious banter between Conservative and Orr, Khrist's Keystone Kops, is evidence of the delusion among the more ignorant Fundy-NutZ.

They are excellent examples of the hate, bigotry, and anti-humanism that is slowly but surely driving thinking people from fundamental and orthodox churches, temples, and mosques.

Belief in your imaginary Jehovah is slipping away and not a moment too soon. Advances in knowledge and wisdom are replacing your fast-shrinking theology of despair and fear.

Keep up the good work boys.

June 12, 2014 at 9:43 a.m.

Here's another example where "Christian Creationism" has failed. To teach young children that creationism is true is unconscionable.

Another good reason to keep such religious malarkey out of public schools.

http://www.salon.com/2014/06/08/neil_degrasse_tysons_scientific_smackdown_7_cosmos_moments_that_made_creationists_heads_explode/

If you see any exploding heads, you'll know that some creationist read this, so pass it on to Southern Baptist, Holy Rollers, Snake-handlers (not sure they can read) and other Fundy-NutZ.

June 12, 2014 at 3:38 p.m.

I'm a non-believer so I could be grossly mistaken, but the spewing of vitriolic bigotry doesn't seem very Christlike to me.

June 22, 2014 at 11:18 a.m.
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