published Friday, March 14th, 2014

Cursive

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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What's the connection between poor spelling and cursive?

March 14, 2014 at 12:42 a.m.
librul said...

What's he gotta do, spell it out for you? LOLOLOL

March 14, 2014 at 1:03 a.m.
nucanuck said...

Hello, Zab, is anybody home?

March 14, 2014 at 1:20 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

OMG!! u mean the kds rnt bing tot to spell by the gr8 tchrs unyons?

Cursive. So your child can spell wrong prettier.

March 14, 2014 at 3:57 a.m.
EaTn said...

The main advantage of cursive writing is that words are formed with a continuous flow rather than a stop and restart printing method. With today's technology requiring little handwriting, learning cursive is a waste of time.

March 14, 2014 at 6:18 a.m.
wallyworld said...

It think it would behoove our students in today's classrooms to first learn correct English and spelling. Not amuriken talk. I see it every day on this board alone. When I see someone speaking English in, oh say, Crimea, they are more well versed in the English language than some yahoo they interview from Soddy Daisy. Let's stop trying to dumb down this country and teach our children what they desperately need to survive in today's fast paced world. And one of the leading topics would be science, not science-fiction and mythology.

March 14, 2014 at 7:04 a.m.
LibDem said...

The good news is that soon old geezers like me will have a secret code young people can't read.

March 14, 2014 at 7:19 a.m.
limric said...

You're probably right Libdem. When this geezer learned it, it was called 'script'. And when the teacher (Miss Briggs as I remember) thought we were ready, we were allowed to used a pen - a fountain pen.

March 14, 2014 at 7:51 a.m.
degage said...

Limric, yup, and we managed to get ink all over our hands. Really dates us, some of the youngsters now don't even know what a fountain pen is. We also learned how to read write and add. The young don't even have a clue how to give change without a calculator.

March 14, 2014 at 8:11 a.m.
ibshame said...

I always thought the word "SIGNATURE" meant more than just making an "X" if one could read or write.

March 14, 2014 at 8:15 a.m.
conservative said...

TC?

RUS

RUOK

SCNR

March 14, 2014 at 8:39 a.m.
AgentX said...

My interpretation of the cartoon is that they are placing their concerns on the wrong issues. Children should first learn to spell, before they worry about learning to wright in cursive. I have multiple family members that are teachers in different counties, and both agree that the parents play an important part in a child's learning and development, particularly in the early years. Whether anyone wants to admit it or not, there is also a correlation between household income/lifestyle and a child's learning. I have heard of parents wanting to have a child with any kind of disability so that they can attempt to get more income. Does it happen a lot? Well, no, but it does happen. The children pay the price. Teachers do what they can, but it seems their hands are tied more and more. Some schools don't even paddle anymore, for fear of a lawsuit. Kids misbehave and get sent to the principle's office, where the principle can only shake a finger at them before sending them back to class. So where is the motivation? And then there is so much stress put on the yearly tests, that standard topics take a back seat to getting kids ready for the tests, because those scores play such a big role on how the school looks, and how the teachers perform. It's a bunch of crap, honestly, but the teachers, again, have their hands tied.
My son is in kindergarten, and we make sure he gets his "homework" done every week and turned back in. During a parent/teacher meeting, we talked about it and the teacher said we would be surprised by how many students NEVER bring anything back from home. I'm assuming because the parents don't want to sit down and work with their children. Society is growing and advancing, and there is so much more to learn than there was 100 yrs ago.

March 14, 2014 at 9:03 a.m.
PlainTruth said...
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March 14, 2014 at 9:17 a.m.

Yeah, I'm home Nucanuck. If you can't spell in cursive/script, you can't spell when you print either.

March 14, 2014 at 9:31 a.m.
kkemerait said...

I see learning cursive becoming more of a social indicator rather than a requirement to be able to communicate. Certainly being able to read cursive handwriting is still useful and let's admit it ... how many of us, at least tried, at one point in our life to learn calligraphy ... it's way cool!

Should cursive be a requirement in the same class with reading or math...no, but certainly it should be offered as an elective ... maybe even something in the art department where different types of cursive from various languages can be learned or studied.

March 14, 2014 at 9:37 a.m.
kkemerait said...

I also notice spelling mentioned several times here. If we want to address spelling then let's take Ben Franklin's advice and re-work our alphabet and pronunciation so that words are pronounced the same way they are spelled.

Borrowing a few examples from Gallagher ... why is the letter "o" pronounced differently in each of these words...a little consistency please! Oh..and don't even get me started on "silent" letters!

comb, tomb, bomb some, home

March 14, 2014 at 9:45 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

^^^^sounds like dumbing down to me, Karl.

March 14, 2014 at 9:49 a.m.
Maximus said...

See what happens when you send your kids to state run public schools. Send your kids to The Baylor School like we did. Obama's kids attend private schools and I'm sure Mr. Bennett's adopted children with his gay life partner do too. Like anything run by the state and the Feds........public schools suck and do nothing more than try to preserve "self esteem" while endoctrinating them into weak minded group think social Democrats.

March 14, 2014 at 9:54 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

Sharyl Attkisson resigned from CBS. Ben Walsh jokes: "Sources say she left over differences with the networkโ€™s news director, Barack Obama."

March 14, 2014 at 11 a.m.
ibshame said...

"Maximus said... See what happens when you send your kids to state run public schools. Send your kids to The Baylor School like we did."

Yeah right. LOL If they turn out to live in a world of fantasy like you, then you wasted your money.

March 14, 2014 at 11:04 a.m.
GaussianInteger said...

Daily delusions courtesy of Maxipad.

P.S. Maxi, this state is controlled by the GOP. Your post insults the very party you constantly praise. I am starting to believe that the wards at Moccasin Bend need to start restricting the time they allow you to post on the internet.

March 14, 2014 at 11:26 a.m.
kkemerait said...

Maximus, at least they learn how to spell "indoctrinate"

March 14, 2014 at 11:57 a.m.
ibshame said...

Not sure how many days this bunch will have before the Session ends but one would think there are many more pressing issues for them to address than Religious Displays and Cursive Writing.

As per usual they will probably wait until the 11th hour to ram through as much as they can and the public won't be able to see the results of their follies until after they have gone home for their campaigns.

March 14, 2014 at 12:52 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Rare agreement with ibeshamed.

March 14, 2014 at 12:56 p.m.
hotdiggity said...

Maximus- "Send your kids to The Baylor School like we did."

Sure everybody can afford that. Of course your post is just another opportunity for you to post your self promoting elitist tripe.

Maximus Taurus excreta.

March 14, 2014 at 1:19 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Public schools are like anything else. Garbage in, garbage out.

March 14, 2014 at 1:37 p.m.
AgentX said...

When was the last time anyone chose their doctor based on where he/she went to high school? When has anyone ever looked around the doctor office, or lawyer's office for their high school diploma? I didn't realize my life is so screwed up, having graduated from public school. There is certainly room for improvement, but much can be overcome with the assistance of the parents.

March 14, 2014 at 1:44 p.m.
whatsthefuss said...

Just a thought to all the higher order thinkers here.

Cursive went the way of the Dodo Bird when occupational therapy and mentally handicapped children were mainstreamed into the classroom. They do not possess the ability to perform connective motion required to write cursive so a handwriting font called "Ball & Stick" was adopted.

An example of this writing font would be the lower case letter "a". You make a circle, then lift your pencil and place it to the upper right of the circle and draw a line straight down. Get it? Ball & Stick? Some call it Stick & Ball and I am certain if I didn't mention it some higher order thinker would attempt to know what they were talking about and find it necessary to correct me. So have at it.

The real loss of abandoning the teaching of cursive is a child not developing the ability to perform hand movement requiring connective motion. Some say nonsense but perhaps if your heart surgeon was a Ball & Stick devotee, no fault of his/her own, the quad bypass may not have been quite as successful. Your car mechanic would find benefit in being taught manual dexterity as a child. I would bet a DQ Tropical Blizzard that Yo-Yo Ma was a student of cursive handwriting. Also the reason kids today SUCK at spelling and writing is because teachers SUCK at teaching. Find that to harsh??? TOUGH S#!T!! Same reason they don't know 3+5=8.

Teachers used to have students write daily. They went home with the assignments and administered a water cooled 50 Cal. red pen to each & every paper and had students correct their mistakes. Not today. They do not have students write anything that they must read and correct. WHY??? Because they are the biggest group of non performers the modern world has ever seen.

So don't blame the kids for their spelling failure. Blame the administrators and the teachers. That is where it belongs. I can see the bumper sticker now.

Can't read this bumper sticker? THANK A TEACHER!

March 14, 2014 at 2:11 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

FIVE LARGE STARS ^^^ (not in red)

March 14, 2014 at 2:14 p.m.
joepulitzer said...

So, one would assume that Bennett's cursive signature on his toons is misspelled.

March 14, 2014 at 5:26 p.m.
kkemerait said...

Since today is international "Pi" day -- here's a fun vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG7vhM...

March 14, 2014 at 6:31 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

"So don't blame the kids for their spelling failure. Blame the administrators and the teachers. That is where it belongs. I can see the bumper sticker now."

No, this type of attitude is what is wrong with students today. Parents send their kids to school and expect the teacher to teach them to do everything. There's only so much a kid is going to learn at school, parents are a much bigger part of their kids education. Let's say a classroom size is 20 students. Let's say they spend an hour on working on writing. That's about 3 mins a day the teacher has to work one-on-one with a student. And that's if every student is behaving (rarely happens), is on task (rarely happens), and is on par grade-level wise with their classmates (rarely, if ever, happens). I'm not saying there aren't crappy teachers out there, because there are. But to place all of the blame on teachers is just a "Pass a Buck" mentality and parents not willing to accept that they are more to blame for their child's short-comings in education. It's also a poor example of showing kids that they don't need to accept responsibility for their bad grades. Just "blame it all on teachers and administrators".

March 14, 2014 at 6:53 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

^^^^ I blame the Koch brothers

March 14, 2014 at 9:29 p.m.
whatsthefuss said...

HEY GAS,

So, "lET'S SAY" THEY DO SPEND ONE HOUR A DAY ON WRITING. That would be 180 hours a year. At the end of K-5 they have spent 1080 hours of instruction on writing and yet they still can't write, spell and lack a proper vocabulary. Include a short homework assignment to reinforce the daily focus and at the end of the year, if properly delivered the little darlings should show great gains in ability and confidence.

You touched on behavior. Guess who is the worst behaved in public schools. THE TEACHERS & ADMINISTRATORS! They congregate in the hall during instruction time ignoring their students and classroom. At recess they sit together and chat instead of providing proper supervision. Their job is to watch the sweeties and when Rotten Johnny/Judy have a moment they are there to reinforce good behavior and help the students understand what proper social interaction is. True some students are not taught to be considerate and kind to one another at home but in the confines of public education, the rules are set by administration and the expectations are minimal at best. What happens outside the school walls they have no control of, but inside their walls they are the absolute rulers. And the teachers kids are the worst receiving a free pass with their darling little mommies hovering over them telling everyone how adorable they are. HELICOPTER TEACHERS! Ever throw up just a little in your mouth?

As to being on grade level, again I put the blame on education. They have developed 3 distinct tiers of students entering kindergarten. The public educated pre-k students, the day care educated pre-k kids and the children who have had no pre-k experience. So please explain to me how any mix of these groups could possibly be on the same grade level. Just teaching children to sit, raise their hand, form a straight line for starters takes instruction time. Some enter with these skills and some don't. Some don't know their numbers, letters and colors. Some have never left the comfort of their mother/father, and some have never known it. SAD! Teachers are the major determining factor as to what these children become. One bad teacher in the K-5 chain is devastating to the outcome of that group. I suggest a ZERO TOLLERANCE for ineffective/bad teachers. They get a pass year after year until they finally are put out to pasture to graze off the taxpayer which unfortunately is going to be the same children they forgot to teach to add, subtract, multiply and divide. Good luck with your direct deposit retirement check from that group. Oh yeah, the bumper sticker. It still reads the same.

March 15, 2014 at 9:16 a.m.
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