published Friday, March 21st, 2014

Obamacare

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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Dems own it. It doesn't need anbody else to make it fail. It's collapsing on it's own.

March 21, 2014 at 12:57 a.m.
fairmon said...

Obamacare is unraveling like a cheap shirt but we will have to keep wearing it since no one is willing to discard it and we can't give it away.

It is another case of those not utilizing the opportunity to make their own to claim entitlement because they are in America. It is the largest wealth redistribution welfare program ever devised by the government.

The intentional consequences are far greater than the intended or publicized benefits.

March 21, 2014 at 6:45 a.m.
wallyworld said...

zab says with a straight face: It doesn't need anbody else to make it fail. It's collapsing on it's own. So why are millions being spent by the Koch's & Friends to deceive low-information voters like you?

Of all the things the House could be doing right now, posturing shouldn’t be at the top of the list. I wish this debate about a law that was deemed legal would go the hell away already. Sadly, it won’t and part of the reason why is due to two of the GOP’s greatest sugar daddies: the Koch Brothers, who are keeping this debate alive for self-serving reasons.

A recent New York Times report reveals that “in one of the largest campaigns of its kind, Americans for Prosperity, a conservative advocacy group financed in part by Charles and David Koch, will begin running television commercials this week asserting that the law will limit Americans’ health care choices.”

The group will spend more than $1 million on the campaign with targeted ads running in states like Ohio and Virginia. Moreover, there will be online ads directing people to test their “Obamacare risk factors.” As you can see from the posted ad, the campaign will target young women. Indeed, the ads will run during shows like “Chopped,” “Law & Order: SVU,” and “Good Morning America.”

No, their intention is to lie.

Take, “Julie” for instance, claiming in the ad, ”If we can’t pick our own doctor, how do I know our family is going to get the care they need?” There’s nothing in the law preventing anyone from selecting their own physician. And if you take a gander at the site that accompanies this ad, aptly called Obamariskfactors.com, you’ll find claims such as, “Many families could be punished for their personal health care choices due to ObamaCare.”

The Campaign Media Analysis Group at Kantar Media estimates that from 2010, when the law was signed, to 2015, $1 billion will be spent on ads that criticize or defend it. That includes ads for candidates who oppose the law. Half of the $1 billion has already been spent, the group said.

The Campaign Media Analysis Group at Kantar Media estimates that from 2010, when the law was signed, to 2015, $1 billion will be spent on ads that criticize or defend it. That includes ads for candidates who oppose the law. Half of the $1 billion has already been spent, the group said.

March 21, 2014 at 6:57 a.m.
limric said...

Worth repeating: "The Greatest Healthcare System in the World"

http://www.hulu.com/watch/605513

March 21, 2014 at 7:57 a.m.
GaussianInteger said...

Obamacare:

GOP thought good plan when they proposed it in the 90's. GOP thinks it is bad plan when Obama passed it. Romney thought it was a good plan in MA. Romney thinks it is a bad plan for the other 49 states.

March 21, 2014 at 8:17 a.m.
gypsylady said...

Fairmon, not long ago you listed five or six countries that were your idea of business friendly. Did you know that every one of them provides universal healthcare? Either through an individual mandate or single payer. I can argue that Obamacare will ultimately be good for the economy all day long. You talk of wealth transfers. My premiums and co-pays go up because of uninsured patients. Healthcare should not be treated as a consumer good. We are not doctors and we cannot comparison shop when there is a medical emergency. We cannot, on the fly, determine if a test is being ordered because of a medical necessity or because the doctor has a financial interest in the testing equipment/lab. Try calling the local hospitals to get a firm price on say, an appendectomy. Or go to another country that has a better business climate. Cause buddy, they also have universal healthcare.

March 21, 2014 at 11:32 a.m.

Again with the Koch brothers. Who cares. Democrats have their big money donors, and the GOP has their donors. So?

If the people that they need to contribute to it don't contribute, then it won't work.

The GOP has done nothing but talk about, they're not going get rid of it. They don't have the backbone to try it. It will collapse on it's own. Just because various groups oppose it, they can't do anything to change the law. The only person who thinks they can change law without going through congress is BO. He's also the one who seems to be able to pick and choose which portions of the law should be enforced. We can't all be dictators. He apparently has the luxury of not abiding by the Constitution.

Once again, Gauss, BO is POTUS, not Reagan, not Romney, and not McCain.

March 21, 2014 at 12:04 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

I know who the president is Fister. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy within your party.

March 21, 2014 at 12:19 p.m.
LibDem said...

Once again, zableedofisterix, multiple whines, zero solutions.

March 21, 2014 at 12:28 p.m.
limric said...

”He's (Barack Obama) also the one who seems to be able to pick and choose which portions of the law should be enforced. We can't all be dictators. He apparently has the luxury of not abiding by the Constitution.”

You are disingenuously parroting Ted Cruz, who said, ”He [President Barack Obama] is the first president we've ever had who thinks he can choose which laws to enforce and which laws to ignore."

While not condoning/ excusing the President, there is certainly a fair amount of selective memory on the right regarding dictatorial comparisons.

Signing statements anyone?

March 21, 2014 at 12:50 p.m.
MickeyRat said...

Limric,

Instead of trying to explain something or argue with them, try explaining Algebra to your dog. I’m sure it will be much more productive.

March 21, 2014 at 1:07 p.m.
wallyworld said...

zab, where's your evidence that any democratic donor is trying to deprive citizens of affordable health care? Back in the 90's this was a republican plan, guess what happened in the meantime. Low-hanging fruit like you should not even be allowed to vote. You're as anti-American as the rest of these tea-baggin' fools.

March 21, 2014 at 1:42 p.m.

Ted Cruz is correct. Why not parrot him if he's correct. I'm not talking about other presidents, I'm talking about BO. If the law states that this or that has to be done, and he arbitrarily decides to delay it, then he is picking and choosing. Where does he get that authority? It has to go through congress. I didn't say other presidents are beyond criticism.

Wally, what are you talking about? I was commenting on how you libs constantly bash the Koch brothers, but somehow folks like Soros are ok. The Koch brothers can't change the law.

Deprive them of what? Just because you call it the "affordable care act" doesn't mean it's affordable at all. In fact, it's screwing up millions of lives now. We trashed an entire system to cover about 4 million people.

If the Koch brothers want to spend their money exposing what they they think is a bad law, so what? Soros has can dump his money in anything he wants and you don't complain.

March 21, 2014 at 3:19 p.m.
limric said...

"Ted Cruz is correct. Why not parrot him if he's correct."

Because he's not.

March 21, 2014 at 3:58 p.m.
wallyworld said...

For those who are interested in the truth about health care in this country. We are NOT number 1. We're Number 37 to be exact. Number 1 in cost perhaps. The World Health Organization's ranking of the world's health systems. 1 France 2 Italy 3 San Marino 4 Andorra 5 Malta 6 Singapore 7 Spain 8 Oman 9 Austria 10 Japan 11 Norway 12 Portugal 13 Monaco 14 Greece 15 Iceland 16 Luxembourg 17 Netherlands 18 United Kingdom 19 Ireland 20 Switzerland 21 Belgium 22 Colombia 23 Sweden 24 Cyprus 25 Germany 26 Saudi Arabia 27 United Arab Emirates 28 Israel 29 Morocco 30 Canada 31 Finland 32 Australia 33 Chile 34 Denmark 35 Dominica 36 Costa Rica 37 United States of America

March 21, 2014 at 4:10 p.m.
SeaSmokie59er said...

At least we're two ahead of Cuba.

March 21, 2014 at 4:35 p.m.
rick1 said...

I suggest those who want to believe the World Health Organization report on health care read these two links and find out why their report is flawed.

http://www.cato.org/publications/briefing-paper/whos-fooling-who-world-health-organizations-problematic-ranking-health-care-systems

http://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/bp101.pdf

March 21, 2014 at 6:07 p.m.
stanleyyelnats said...

You know how to identify a Republican? The Republican is the one rooting for failure.

Rooting for failure.... the republican way.

5 million and counting... enjoy.

March 21, 2014 at 7:28 p.m.
stanleyyelnats said...

Person A and Person B.... know how to tell which one is a Republican?

The one who doesn't want YOU to have good affordable HEALTH CARE is the Republican.

ACA.. here to stay.. enjoy.

March 21, 2014 at 7:31 p.m.
una61 said...

Laws enacted by Congress should be enforced entirely or repealed. This applies to the ACA now being selectively enforced by Obama. After March 31, if someone shows up at an ER without health insurance they should be reported to the IRS if they're U.S. Citizens or to the Naturalization Service if they're not.

March 21, 2014 at 7:32 p.m.
stanleyyelnats said...

... the Republican also thinks the EARTH is flat....

March 21, 2014 at 7:32 p.m.

Stanley, wrong. You libs root all the time for the GOP to fail. BO is a socialist in my opinion, so I do want him to fail. If he succeeds then the country will go in the wrong direction.

una is correct. BO has no right to order a law not be enforced. That's what dictators do.

Stanley, It's being rejected because it's damaging and it infringes on our freedoms. That's why your hero, Nancy paste face Pelosi urged congress to "pass it in order to see what's in it."

You'll never get the socialist utopia you want, Stanley.

March 21, 2014 at 7:52 p.m.
stanleyyelnats said...

"When we're confronted with new ideas, we have a strong tendency to retreat to the beliefs we're comfortable with. This cognitive bias keeps us safe but also prevents us from seeing the errors in our own thinking and makes our world smaller than it should be."

Republicans live in a small world.... the earth is flat world... i guess whatever floats your boat...

March 21, 2014 at 8:39 p.m.

"cognitive bias", gobbledygoo. Well, gee, could it be that I simply think it's a really, really bad idea, and it's an intrusion into our lives. We're morphing into police state, the signs all around us. You libs seem to love that.

When it all starts by Pelosi saying, "we have to pass it to see what's in it", then you know something's wrong with it.

March 21, 2014 at 11:15 p.m.
SeaSmokie59er said...

UNA61 wrote "Laws enacted by Congress should be enforced entirely or repealed."

Let's lock up all the weatherman!

A United States federal law makes it illegal to issue a fake Weather Bureau forecast. Source: 18 U.S.C. � 2074

March 22, 2014 at 9:36 a.m.
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