Conservative's argument is that If the government wants to regulate "healthy foods" then they should remove the "junk food" from the eligible items on the Food Stamp list.
Here is the linchpin
the prayer at these meetings is not mandatory, it is voluntary. Welcome to the definition of words folks.
And again here I go.
For those who have an issue with prayer at a meeting. I have attended several school functions enough to know that I can "not hear" something if I do not want to.
Here is the thing. If they are not putting a gun to your head and forcing you to pray along with them, they are not violating your rights.
See I get where these people are coming from, however I have an issue with it. Because of groups such as this I Have been robbed of my Constitutional right to pray at a football game, OR to bring a sign to that game with a bible verse on it.
So the Freedom From Religion folks are not just fighting for the rights of people to not have to hear a "Christian Prayer" they are also Fighting to Trample and bury the rights of Christians.
Joneses- What needs to happen to Mr. Hammond is for him to be fired. He has violated his oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. And if you need to be explained why I feel that way...take a long look at the First Amendment.
Actually I'd like an explanation, I've missed something here. How has he violated the 1st Amendment?
I love how people have an issue with "God" in one place but have no issues with "God" in others. I've made this statement before I'll make it again.
All of you who feel that injecting the word "God" into your day to day lives violates your rights and is forcing the Christian God upon you.
Give me every single piece of currency you have or ever will have. Every piece of money in this country has the words "In God We Trust" written on it somewhere. and yet you aren't griping about that. you have no issues spending that money, and thereby spreading the Christian God around to others. you have no issues taking that God out of your pocket, and using him to pay your bills or debts.
You have no issues using a piece of paper with God printed on it to go to the movies, or to indulge in your extra curricular activities.
That in and of itself is hypocritical behavior at its finest.
So save yourself the heartache of suffering under a Christian God.
Give your money to me.
Okay as a Christian, I'm offended by you. You have done nothing here but make those of us who may believe as you do look bad. You most definatly have not proven your point. Let us examine a few of your comments...
*"Actually I expect nothing of you as you and the rest of your little libtard atheist friends are small and irrelevant to me." *
"I personally do not give a rats (explicitive deleted) what you believe in because you are not important to me."
"I think I will go to the court house and pray today just to piss you off"
As a Christian, are you really supposed to find people irrelevant? Really? Do you even for a moment think that by telling someone with an opposing view that they are irrelevant to you that you have any hope of winning them over? What kind of example are you setting for others in the community who may look up to you? What sort of example for those looking at you as an example Christian are you setting? Why would anyone who is not one of us look at you and say "Man I want to be like that."?
And of course cursing and name calling is ever the mature adult way to prove your point. I know when someone is trying to convince me my point of view is wrong, that if they call me a name or curse me out I change my mind right away.
Now, to the subject at hand. Is prayer in a government meeting legal? Well let us see.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
The amendment prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances.
So then in theory, it is illegal for the Supreme Court to pass a law that says I can not pray in a public place. that would be impending my free exercise of religion and my freedom of speech. It would also be interfering with my right to peaceably assemble if they passed a law saying that a group (say at a football game) wanted to prempt the game with a prayer.
I as a Christian, have the Constitutional right to pray whenever and wherever I want. Congress, the Supreme Court, the State government have no legal grounds to establish laws preventing me from doing so. It is Unconstitutional to tell an American citizen it is a LAW that you can not pray.
See everyone wants to ignore the other side of the coin on this one. everyone wants to say the First Amendment means you can't pray in public, and yet it also says you can. It specifical says that laws can not be passed that hinder, or prevent my right to publicly affirm my faith.
Typo, oops my bad.
"Seems kind of funny that your all in favor of drug testing for welfare recipients, but only lil jonnie and Blackwater suggested drug testing the biggest leechs of tax payer money, the politicians "
I agree whole heartily. As their employer I want them tested. As their employer I want them docked a days pay if they miss a vote.
There is a difference between the 90 year old lady on Social Security and a person applying for Food stamps and government cheese (I really miss Government cheese that stuff was awesome).
The Food Stamp / Welfare program is funded by tax payer dollars. Social Security is something you pay into and get back when you retire in payments.
If I were an employer I'd require drug testing. And in theory I as a taxpayer am employing those on welfare to sit on their rear end and do nothing. I Want them drug tested.
I've known people who got food stamps and sold them so they could have drug money. How does that feed their children?
Sorry no this law needs to be implemented nationwide.