When it comes to movie basketball players, Clarence "Coffee" Black (played by Outkast's Andre 3000 in the movie Semi-Pro) gets drafted for his afro alone... not to mention he was one of the game's true pioneers as the first-ever recipient of an alley oop pass. The man is a legend and a stone-cold, lead-pipe lock as a lottery pick.
Another thing Huddy has going for him, fair or not, is that on a team that has a reputation for strong pitching (how many times have you heard the folks at ESPN say things like "when you think of the Atlanta Braves, you think of pitching" even now, well after the glory days of Maddux, Glavine & Smoltz?) he has been arguably the best pitcher for several years now.
Not saying that it SHOULD count for anything. Just that it COULD be the kind of thing that might lurk in the back of a few BBWA minds and give Timmy H. some extra votes. After all, as Choptalker illustrated in comparing Hudson and Halladay's stats, we often judge players based on perception.
Something I find interesting about the Huddy conversation is that those who think he doesn't belong in the hall tend to point to his numbers and say he hasn't been "dominant" like, say, Roy Halladay because he doesn't get a ton of strikeouts. But I think pitchers like Hudson kind of make you reexamine your definition of dominance.
Blowing guys away and missing bats isn't the only way to get the job done--although he gets his fair share of Ks. Hudson makes hitters do what he wants them to do. Ground out. Pop out. He knows how to pitch without "dominant" stuff.
And for goodness' sake, look at his winning percentage (.656)! That alone puts him some awfully lofty company when you rank him among the pitcher with 200+ wins.
Sure, you can say that wins are team-dependent. But there are a lot of good teams out there and only 3 of them have pitchers with 200 wins on their roster. There's a reason for that, and it's not luck. He has consistently been able to give his team a chance to win most nights for a long time, and that's impressive. The guy's a winner, plain and simple.
I think if he gets to 250 without compromising his winning % and era too much, he's got a pretty good case for the hall.
Rather than discuss the Mocs' chances of winning in Asheville this weekend, I'll take you up on your other (more reasonable) debate...
Clearly the dragon is going to be the bigger draw at the Zoo. Clearly. They are a giant green fireworks show. Nothing beats dragon. Ever.
Plus, let's face it. When you get past the horn, a unicorn is just a horse. And, unless you REALLY are into horns, who is honestly trying to pay to see a horse? Nobody. That's who.
Go Mocs, I guess?
Five Channels? Pshhhh... I only need 3.
FSN South & Sports South (why do they pretend to be 2 different channels?)to watch the Braves.
And, since you gave me Fox for free, I'll take the NFL Redzone (in HD of course) to watch during the commercials of my Falcons games.
Mrs. Huesmania can have the other two. Early Vegas line has her taking Bravo and TLC.
Winners never quit and quitters never win. So, let's go Mocs-that-want-to-be-Mocs.