Nobody is saying that ISIS isn't dangerous or that all we have to do is talk nice to them and they'll sing kumbaya with us around the campfire. Some sort of action or stategy will be needed to deal with them. But at some point we have to wake up to the fact that we bear responsibility for their very existence. We have reaped what we have sown by invading Iraq in such knee-jerk fashion and overstaying our presence in Afghanistan, to the point of decimating their country and annihilating thousands upon thousands of innocent people. Actions have consequences...and wrongful actions reap terrible consequences! We cannot keep thinking that just because we have the mightiest military in the world all we have to do is flex our military muscle and the rest of the world will stand in awe. We do not instill awe. We just create more terrorists and more reasons for more people to hate us.
As bad as Hussein was, he was a mere puppy compared to the likes of ISIS. You can thank Bush and Cheney for giving a terrorist group like ISIS room to grow and prosper. Or else we could have kept tens of thousands of American troops on the ground indefinitely in both Iraq and Afghanistan.
Regarding Saddam Hussein: as tyrannical and egomaniacal as he was, the Middle East would be in far better shape today, and likewise our relationship to it, if he were still in power. He ruled with an iron fist, but that is obviously the only form of authority the tribal minded people there can respect. He was a big fish in a little pond, he posed no immediate threat, and he provided a certain stability in the Middle East that America destroyed practically overnight with our knee-jerk and ill-conceived invasion.
GameOn, thank you for your personal account of the everyday life of your wife as teacher. I have known several teachers over the years and they all worked very hard, putting in much more than the typical 40-hour week. It does indeed take a special calling to be a teacher, and a good teacher is worth her/his weight in gold.
For one to display the utter ignorance, as timbo has done, of the workaday life of a teacher, is unbelievable. I doubt that he even has the good sense to be ashamed of just how ignorant he is and how ludicrous his comments were.
Not to excuse in any way the monstrous acts that ISIS or other Muslim jihadists have committed; but it's interesting how when our servicemen commit them it's just part of the consequences of war and therefore excusable (even sanctioned in the eyes of God, as far as Christian fundie folk are concerned); but let those on the other side do something heinous and it's "inexpicably evil."
No greater atrocities have been committed by anyone worse than those carried out on a regular and consistent basis than by our troops during the Vietnam war. Those that made the headlines were just the tip of the iceberg. In the end millions of innocent men, women, and children were brutally slaughtered. And what about Napalm? For those who did not die outright from it, they lived the remainder of their lives in horrid agony and deformity. And the U.S. still has not admitted any wrongdoing for that most insidious and mind-numbingly brutal act.
Then there are those instances during the Iraq and Afghanistan wars of our troops pissing on corpses, using the heads of the dead as soccer balls....and let's not forget Abu Ghraib (just an instance of our troops having a little fun and letting off some steam, right?)!
Okay, you America-right-or-wrong patriots and you hawks and blood-thirsty dogs of war, use the "evil" word for the atrocities of ISIS and other Muslim jihadists if it makes you feel better. But nobody does evil better than the good ol' U.S. of A.
"Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge? Who is it?"
No mystery there. His name is Ken Orr. He thinks that reading BS from a Bronze Age book of myths gives him knowledge. Professing himself to be wise, he has become a fool.
Unfortunately, what "healing" means is that we give in to a revisionist history of that war, wherein people today have no concept of the great divide between those who protested it and those who fought in it. Today, the narrative has been twisted to this: that anyone who fought in it, whether drafted or voluntarily enlisted, is a hero and patriot, and anyone who protested it and refused to fight is considered unpatriotic or a coward.
But history has proven what thinking people knew at the time: it was a senseless, unjustified, imperialistic war of outright genocide. It was our overblown fear of what MIGHT happen if we didn't invade, just like our "War on Terror" has been the result of our overblown fear of what MIGHT happen if we didn't invade Iraq and Afghanistan.
Yes, let us heal. But in doing so, let's not forget that the Vietnam war protesters were no less patriotic than those soldiers who were deluded into thinking that they were fighting for truth, justice, and freedom for America. There was no truth coming out of Washington about that war. It is especially important that we remember that on this the 50th anniversary of the Gulf of Tonkin incident (conspiracy).
Timbo's foaming-at-the-mouth, visceral hatred of liberals and, today, of teachers in particular has never been so obvious. Take a deep breath, timbo. Chill out. We know you "won't" (to borrow from timbo's grammar book) to make all libs disappear but we're not going anywhere. History has proven time and again that liberalism always wins out in the end. You conservatives have enjoyed over 3 decades of austerity minded, trickle-down, anti-government bullsh!t and your suffocating reign of rich-old-white-man privilege will soon come to an end.
Capitalism as we have known it won't/can't last much longer. Either people will wise up and usher in a new era of much needed FDR-type socialistic polices, or this nation will crumble under the oppressive weight of this conservative, oligarchic regime of greed and self-serving policies for the one percenters.
What timbo is calling a "Cadillac" health plan is actually what all Americans ought to have anyway. It is nothing more than good, comprehensive health coverage at an affordable price. Which is something that most other countries, through equitable taxation, have had for a long time. But the "haves" in this country like to make the "have-nots" believe you must be rich or privileged to get it.
Ms. Williams, how can you be so certain your God is not gay? Haven't you ever wondered why he is a confirmed bachelor? If it's possible for there to be an invisible sky daddy existing on high, then surely its possible for there to be an invisible sky mommy. So why hasn't he married her, especially if he thinks that marriage between a man and a woman is so sacred? Methinks there's certainly reason to suspect that he might just be...you know...gay, and still in the closet. He's probably afraid to come out, for fear of what you Christian homophobes would do to him!
No, Germany's and other European countries' economic/social systems could never work in Amurika because they are social democracies and anything that contains the hated "S" word (socialism) is avoided like the plague here. Better to be a dumb and backward Amurikan with inferior public schools, crumbling infrastructure, high unemployment, overpriced health insurance sold like a commodity, and low wages than to even think about dipping our toes into those evil socialistic waters. We might be dumb and backward but by Gawd we're proud to be Amurikan and capitalist to the core. Our way sucks for 99% of us but as long as we keep the one-percenters happy we'll keep doing it our way, thank you. Gawd bless Amurika!