"Roo, Excepting one, I haven't seen any "fundamentalists" Christians on here. You guys, especially you, paint with a roller." - PT
PT, I was also addressing the Christian sympathizers and there are plenty of those here. If you are whining about how offensive this cartoon is to Christians, then you are a sympathizer. You obviously have a serious problem with reading comprehension, don't you, PT? Either that or you just can't help yourself - you gotta spew out your nonsense without really thinking.
There are all manner and degree of Christians. Those Christians who have the good sense to realize that the Bible is not history and is not intended to be the inerrant word of God likewise have no problem with accepting the findings of science. Those Christians will not be offended by this cartoon but will most likely agree with it. The only ones who will feel offended by it are the fundies and they well deserve a hefty dose of criticism. And if you feel offended for them, well, that's only because your disdain for Clay and lefties and outspoken atheists in general is greater than your disdain for them.
Alprova, you couldn't be more wrong in your interpretation of this cartoon. The scientist has not willingly chosen the cross; rather it is a burden all scientists are having to bear - to endure the stubborn wrath of fundamentalist simpletons whose blind faith makes them scornful of even the most basic of scientific truths. Religion and science have always been in conflict but it's amazing and sad that, to be as far removed as we are from the ignorance of the Dark Ages, so many people still cling to superstition and look upon reason, intelligence, and science as the work of "the devil."
Awww... so the Christians and Christian hand holders are offended by Clay's 'toon? Well, cry me a river. How offensive is it to the rest of us when these fundamentalist blowhards are constantly pointing their fingers at those they deem sinners, based on whatever Biblical laws they have cherry-picked?
And how offensive is it when they prevent us from working together to solve some very real problems and instead waste our time in silly debate over things that should have been settled a long time ago? The Bible is NOT History, The earth is NOT 6000 years old, creationism is NOT science, gays are NOT sinners who CHOOSE their sexual orientation, contraception is NOT a sin and is not the equivalent of abortion, and America has NOT been favored by God and we are no more "exceptional" than any other nation.
You fundies keep your Dark Ages superstitions and your bigotry and your hate (masquerading as righteousness) to your yourselves and stay out of our politics and our schools and other areas of our public lives and we will stop needing cartoons like this to "offend" you. In the meantime, suck it up and deal with it.
Great 'toon, Clay! Job well done.
PT, what part of the left is giving rise to or even sanctioning the thought police or intrusion? It was Bush and a Republican administration that spawned Homeland Security, sanctioned the use of torture, and encouraged Americans to spy on and report suspicious neighbors. Sure, Obama is guilty of perpetuating the security excesses, too, and for broadening the scope of drone warfare, but most liberals are calling him out for it, not defending him or excusing him for it.
And as far as the snooping (intrusion) of NSA is concerned, it is right-wingers who are labeling Snowden a traitor while the left regards him as a hero. As with most of your liberal bashing, it doesn't make any sense at all but you just spew it out anyway and think that because it's derogatory of liberals your willfully ignorant RWNJ buds on this forum will high-five you for it.
NewToChatt, I agree with you, to an extent, about hate speech, but I have never even heard of this group until I saw this news story about them the other day. I have no idea if they indulge in hate speech... or do they keep their hateful views to themselves all the while exhibiting a more innocuous public image? It seems dictatorial to me to just assume that they are going to say inflammatory, hateful things and then ban them from speaking or assembling. And anyway, even hate speech is still protected under our first amendment.
Here is my suggestion for "welcoming" NSM to Chattanooga: On the day they are supposed to meet at the Court House, schedule a huge downtown block party, encouraging blacks, whites, latinos, gays - anybody who believes in the equality of us all - to come. Get a good rock band. Set up a cleared spot on the court house grounds for the NSM group to speak and everybody be perfectly silent while their speaker has the mike. Nobody boo or cat-call, just let them have their say, and then as soon as they are finished, everybody turn away from them and let the band break out in some loud and joyous, danceable song and everybody start dancing in the streets. Then maybe some gays and/or mixed couples approach them, smiling and in a friendly manner, asking them to join the party. Just a thought. Either do that or just completely ignore them and nobody show up at all.
Con-man is a sad little man who long ago traded in his brain for blind belief in an ancient book of tall tales and a musty old dogma. He doesn't THINK so much as he REACTS, like a dog hears a strange sound and instinctively barks. He sees or hears the word "socialist," which automatically conjures up all manner of evil spirits in the vacuum of his mind, and in knee-jerk fashion he lashes out, lumping all people who speak the least bit favorably of socialism in any form with these hate mongers and ne'er-do-wells. I'm quite sure that these wackos in the NSM, like con-man himself, do not have a clue what the word socialist really means. There is nothing remotely socialistic about this arrogant, dimwitted menagerie of bigots.
"Our military has protected you." - June Griffin
Right on, sister June! We had to kill 'em to protect 'em - all those Vietnamese, Iraqis, and Afghanis. And we had to blow their countries to smithereens in the process. But by gawd they're protected now. So pay up, you ungrateful heathens!
Zableed, I've wasted enough time in exchanges with you. I stand by every word that I have typed and I couldn't care less what you say or think. Time to step outside this hellhole of small-mindedness exhibited by you conservative/libertarian/teabagging/fundamentalist cretins and breathe some fresh air.
PT, I must admit that reprehensible is a bit too harsh a word for GHWB, I suppose. However, the fact that he gave birth to a son as disgustingly reprehensible as GWB (for whom the word reprehensible is not nearly strong enough) is reprehensible in itself.