I believe that J.B. is the husband of June. Two fundie peas in a pod.
Connie, if you had a brain you could maybe say something useful and intelligent once in a while, instead of that ridiculous Bible babble you always regurgitate. Go crawl back under your rock.
Regarding your 3:39 post of yesterday:
Karl Max supported himself and his family very well for practically his entire life, experiencing a brief period of financial difficulties in his later years. He was no moocher. And as for your claim that he was “envious of those who earned and inherited wealth,” that is rubbish - mere speculation on your part, more of the same BS that you conservatives like to spread about all libs being envious of the wealthy. It is really sad that you are incapable of realizing that one can lead a happy and meaningful life based on factors other than monetary wealth.
As for the suicide of his two daughters....what point are you trying to make in mentioning that? You honestly think that that should reinforce the notion that Karl Marx was some kind of failure? Actually, all of his daughters loved him very much and supported him completely in his ideas and ideals. What about the suicide of someone like, say, Robin Williams? Does the fact the he killed himself detract in any way from the success and the meaningfulness of his life up to that point?
If you don't know this already... one of his daughters, Laura, killed herself in a suicide pact with her husband because they both felt that, in their 60s,, they had outlived their usefulness and they did not want to be a burden to anyone. I would think that you conservatives, who look upon the elderly and the infirm as drains on society anyway (moochers and takers and all that), would actually praise someone for having the good grace to willingly take their exits from life in such a way.
Karl Marx was not perfect and his idea of a smooth running, utopian society based on a Communist model has never come to fruition and probably never will. Because, like libertarianism, another utopian ideal, it would have to be predicated on the notion that everyone in that society is pretty much on the same wave length philosophically, politically, and socially. That will never happen. Nevertheless, Marx was a brilliant thinker and many of his socialistic ideas about labor were adopted, at a time when corruption, greed, and abuse were rampant in the nascent industrial age.
It's too bad that you capitalist worshiping Marx haters cannot put him in his proper perspective, based on the era he lived in, and see how significant were his contributions. You seem to be entirely unaware of the fact that, without the government restraints and the socialistic policies that were placed upon unrestrained capitalism in its earlier years, it would have been impossible for it to have lasted much longer. It would have not been sustainable. If there had been no labor riots, with an awareness of specific socialistic labor demands being made, there surely would have been a much larger and even more anarchistic revolution that would have taken place, given the inhumane and atrocious labor practices that were taking place at the time.
It's one thing to take pride in one's country, but another thing to think that this nation is somehow blessed above other nations and favored by God. That is self-righteousness, hubris, and arrogance all rolled into one. It's disgusting and yet many Americans (mostly conservatives) actually feel that way.
Yeah, J.B. Griffin, I'm with you. I'm pissed at those "liberal" Supreme Court justices giving us Citizens United. And I'm pissed at those "liberal" politicians passing over 205 new abortion restrictions in the last 3 years, and I'm pissed that those "liberal" tea-party wackos have practically overtaken the GOP and are pushing their insane "liberal" agenda on the country.
And how dare those libs refer to evolution and global warming as "scientific!" Just because they both have been thoroughly researched by science specialists and have withstood the rigors of scientific experimentation over years and decades, they have the nerve to call it "science!" Idiots.
Thanks for your enlightened letter, J.B. It's a breath of fresh air to see sane people like you who cast a bright light on this mad, mad world of liberalism gone wild.
Robin Smith, that is not a "compelling argument" you speak of, that is baloney. As an atheist, I do not have the freedom to pick and choose which laws I am going to obey and which ones to disregard - unless, of course, I want to pay the consequences, as determined by our society, for disregard of whatever laws I choose to break. We do not need a Biblical edict from God to tell us that things like murder, stealing, rape, child or spousal abuse, and felonious assault are inherently bad and that my freedom ends where my actions cause undue pain to someone else. Our society tells us that, along with our innate sense of empathy for sentient beings.
It's funny how so many Christians glorify the Ten Commandments, as if they are the ultimate moral code but there are at least two of them - coveting and working on the Sabbath - that they openly and consistently disobey and seem to have no compunctions whatsoever about it. Our capitalist system is based on coveting. Without our coveting material things the entire system would collapse. And as for working on the Sabbath, practically EVERY modern-day Christian disregards that particular commandment and doesn't bat an eyelash. As for lying and committing adultery, most Christians disregard those as well, but they are not as open about breaking those as they are with the other two. So please... give it up about how important your precious Ten Commandments are and how our society is going to hell in a hand basket if we don't nail them to the walls of our schools and government buildings.
The game show host/comedian Steve Harvey once made the comment that if he knows someone to be an atheist he won't even talk to them because he considers them not to have a moral code and therefore he cannot trust them. But atheists in fact are more likely to have a more binding moral code than Christians, because we know that our actions have consequences in the here and now and we take sole responsibility for everything that we do. Personally I find it very unsettling and creepy dealing with Christians when I know that the only thing that's keeping them from killing me or robbing me blind or doing whatever other harmful thing they want is their fear of going to hell. That is no moral code you Christians live by, that is just a matter of living your life in fear of being punished.
This teacher did not "malign the presidency." Bush did that when he lied to and intentionally deceived the American people in order to start a war that had no moral or legal justification. Too bad the outraged parent who complained about this particular assignment didn't have the moral fortitude to be outraged enough to complain about the 5000 American soldiers and the hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi men, women, and children who died as a direct result of Bush's lies.
There is an excellent documentary on Netflix streaming about how insane and unjust the discrepancy between federal law and state law is (in those states that have legalized the sale of medical marijuana) regarding medical marijuana and how one man was singled out for harassment, prosecution, and arrest by the Feds for opening a medical marijuana dispensary in his hometown of San Luis Obispo, CA (a state where medical marijuana is supposedly legal). He abided by all the state laws and ran an above-board business, being very strict to abide by the laws of not selling to anyone without authorization from their doctors, yet he still was raided by machine-gun wielding, robo-cop attired DEA agents, imprisoned, all of his assets seized by the government, and was forced into bankruptcy. The doc is called "Lynching Charlie Lynch."
It is one thing to be optimistic and cheerful in the face of adversity, but quite another to be willfully ignorant, consciously denying what is still so blatantly wrong with America and our economy. Until we have something in place like Glass-Steagall, with the same sort of teeth to keep Wall Street and the bankers from making the same self-serving mistakes that led to the Recession of '08, and until we have an across-the-board increase in the minimum wage to force the big box stores and the other service sector industries to pay their employees a living wage, and until we strengthen and properly fund our public education system so that NOBODY is denied a good education, and until we wean ourselves off fossil fuels and we take the initiative in tapping into and building the infrastructure for renewable energy, and until we stop spending obscene amounts on our military and stop waging war at the drop of a hat, then whatever temporary signs of hope we see on the horizon will be a mirage.
Until we do those things the only thing that will be exceptional about us, after our downfall, will be how exceptionally stupid we were for not having done them, especially when the obvious of what we needed to do was right in front of us.
Wrong, JD, I'm really a pretty happy guy, with much that I am thankful for. It does make me unhappy sometimes to know that there are so many dimwitted, back-assward thinking people like you and Maxie and Zableed and a few other cretins on this forum, and so that is why I don't spend any more time here than I do. Speaking of which....gotta run. The air is starting to get fetid, what with your gaseous emissions and blather. I'll leave it to you to keep stinking the place up. Time for me to make my exit and breathe deep the fresh air of free thought.