ArnoldZiffel said... but only Islam is capable of organized terrrorism backed by it's leaders. The facts speak loud and clear!!
Let's see, arnold did you ever hear of the Crusades, are you familiar with Manifest Destiny, does the Portuguese and the Jesuits in Brazil ring a bell, any familiarity with the atrocities committed by Conquistadors in the name of God, ever read the Old Testament? Heard of The King David Massacre, ever wonder why Ariel Sharon was referred to as "the Butcher of Beirut"? I could go on but somehow I don't think it will sink in. If you truly believe your quote that I pasted above then I must say sir, you are genuinely ignorant.
To onetinsoldier: nice point. To Arnold: Actually, Christians are a big part of the problem. Also, as I stated above a recent poll BY THE VERY LARGE HEBREW UNIVERSITY IN JERUSALEM indicated that the citizenry of Israel would be willing to accept a Palestinian state. If it's good enough for them, it's good enough for me and it ought to be good enough for you.
Let us also remember, Arnold, that it is estimated that between 50,000 and 90,000 Palestinian Christians live in the West Bank. Food for thought.
Arnold - you tell me to stick with the present in the same comment that you want to enlighten me as to history. So, does history matter or does the present matter, or are you suggesting that I do as you say, not as you do? BTW, your take on history is rather broad based and can be shown to be flawed.
Nice point, MTJohn.
A recent poll conducted by the Hebrew University of Jerusalem found that 70 per cent of Israelis believe that if the U.N. votes in favor of a Palestinian state, Israel should accept the decision. This is not the position of the Israeli government. If Israel actually has a democratic government, maybe this issue should be put before the people. Of course it may be more of an ethnocratic government.
A question like that tells me you've probably been in that tunnel too long rat1.....start by reading the Hamas Charter, it spells out clearly what their goals are
For me to simply accept your recommendation that I read the Hamas Charter to validate your aforementioned observation would indicate that I accept that Hamas is (1)representative of ALL Palestinians and (2)that the Charter is still relevant. I accept neither as fact. Hamas leaders have even indicated the current irrelevancy of the Charter. If I suggest that you read the THE PROTOCOLS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION will you then read it and say, "Oh, OK, I guess I was wrong." I doubt it, unless you are an idiot. One needs to do much more research, I would think, to solidify an opinion relative to a topic of this magnitude. That's one reason I suggested the documentary on today's first post. It is a multiple award winning film made by Jews, Palestinians and Christians. It was not created by one group alone with inherent biases. Very informative and revealing but cannot be considered a cure for cognitive dissonance. Might I also suggest reading "A Peace To End All Peace" by David Fromkin, a highly acclaimed history and deeply documented account of the Middle East beginning with the fall of the Ottoman Empire.
Interesting read, harrystatel.
patriot1 said... "Nothing short of the total elimination of the State of Israel will satisfy the Arabs."
How do you know that, patriot1?
Before all the heated rhetoric begins relative to this subject, I would encourage everyone to watch the documentary, "Occupation 101" a film that includes the observations and conclusions of many prominent Israelis, Palestinians, Christians and others. It can be seen in its entirety at: http://www.youtube.com/user/Occupation101