Right now, a great many accusations are flying. Most of them are not bearing very many facts and provable truths.
Tea-Party activists are anti-tax protesters by virtue of their political platform(s). Of course they deserved more scrutiny.
The more I read on all this, the more I laugh at the outrage being offered.
I'm sure that in time, most of the rest of America will be laughing as well.
Progressive groups were targeted with extra scrutiny as well. Proof to that effect is coming to light.
All that is likely going to come from this is an overhaul of IRS regulations streamlining the tax-exempt application process to be a bit more friendly and to set forth some more reasonable timelines for approval or denial of applications.
I predict that any lawsuits that emerge out of this will be thrown out of court.
Andrew, I read your link from top to bottom. I did not find the questions over-the-top at all.
Yes...the IRS most definitely was thorough in their scrutiny, to determine the level of education that the organization was poised to provide in order to qualify for tax-exempt status.
I don't see what was asked as unusual or in any manner targeting them unjustly.
I too question prayer outside a facility that performs abortion as educational in intent.
Was the agent(s) involved guilty of any personal bias? Perhaps.
But, their application was ultimately approved.
Forms and Questionnaires sent by the IRS to Tea-Party groups. Where are all those "weird" questions?
IRS Form 1024;
Follow-up questionnaire sent to one group;
Follow-up questionnaire to a second group;
I can find no proof whatsoever that the IRS asked anyone "How will you pray?" on an official letter for follow-up information.
I'm wide open to any proof that there was such a question sent in printed form to any right-wing entity that has made such allegations.
AndreLohr wrote: "Sean Hannity says President Obama met with an IRS leader the day before the hassling of tea party groups started."
If Sean Hannity said that, then he is guilty of passing on a falsehood.
The rumor is that the day before the alleged IRS scrutiny of Tea-Party affiliated groups began, the President had a meeting with Colleen Kelley, who is the President of the National Treasury Employees Union.
According to the Inspector General report, It was on the next day that "The new Acting Manager, Technical Unit, suggested the need for a Sensitive Case Report on the Tea Party cases. The Determinations Unit Program Manager Agreed."
"Will the most transparent administration in history put the President and the IRS person, and any witnesses, on the stand under oath to tell what went on at that meeting?"
"What can be private about a meeting between the CEO of our country and one of his administrators?"
"Spending 1100 days waiting for the IRS to make up its mind is "tall tales"?"
The tall tales are that the FBI harassed these Tea-Party group officials that are making such claims.
"Being asked how your pray is "tall tales"? (Doesn't the Constitution forbid religious tests?)"
Has anyone actually provided a copy of the intrusive questionnaires to prove these assertions? I'm not saying that anyone is lying, but I would love to see proof that written questions such as the above indeed exist.
"The Tea Party distances itself from people who think deficits don't matter, that sustainability doesn't matter, that Social Security and Medicare being broke doesn't matter."
The Tea-Party needs to go it alone, rather than to attempt to take over the Republican Party. Then the nation would get a clue just how irrelevant they truly are.
The Tea-Party crowd is becoming more and more irrelevant, and the more that they push this silly IRS scandal down the road, the more people will turn their nose up at them.
Tea-Party officials right and left are coming out of the woodwork and claiming to have been hassled by not only by the IRS, but the FBI as well.
It makes good news stories for Fox News, but I'll be waiting to see if any of these people take oaths on the stand in a court of law and continue to tell their tall tales.
By the time this is all over, there will not be a Tea-Party to even worry about.
Republicans -- save yourselves. The time to distance yourself from these crazy people is now!!
JT, you hide behind the fact that all your previous posts were deleted from this site and are claiming you know nothing of them, but who do you think you are fooling?
All the regulars remember your posts. Everyone remembers your last miraculous meltdown that proved you are indeed a human with feelings, which was on the night of the Sandy Hook shootings.
All that aside, when I posted earlier this evening, I had no knowledge that the tornadoes in Oklahoma were deadly. I certainly had no knowledge that this was another deadly incident involving the deaths of school children.
Trust me...I've been on my knees, begging the Lord to forgive me for my horrible sins over the past couple of days.
I was dead wrong to post my extremely weak attempt at humor, which was a poke at all this crap about conspiracies and scandals that have become totally ridiculous. I flagged my own post, for what it's worth.
If you will also take notice, I have apologized to Jack for my scandalous and false accusation, which he graciously accepted. I know that my credibility has taken a deep hit and that I will have to endure a whole bunch of crap over it. So be it.
Whatever anyone does regarding what I have done, I will accept it like a man, I will not challenge anyone, nor will I attempt to defend what I did at all.
For my part, my little war is over, and my hope is that we can all attempt to be more civil to each other in the future so that things don't get out of control.
Easy...you're free to do as you please, but I am respectfully requesting you to join me in dispensing truths and facts, but not insults.
Life is simply too short to spend it arguing all the time, even if those we disagree with want to.
Okay friends and foes...fire away...
24 children unaccounted for.
PT...I'm sorry. You are not the man whom was referred to as having filed bankruptcy. I was wrong to allow my emotions to override my good sense.
Go ahead....beat me up. I deserve it.
Wow!! I just flipped on the TV. Those tornadoes in Oklahoma are serious and are expected to have killed many.
I humbly apologize to everyone for including reference to them in a poor attempt at humor earlier. I had no idea at the time that these were F4 events.
Please...please Lord...don't let this be another tragedy where a bunch of elementary school children were killed.
I truly did not know until a few minutes ago that two elementary schools and entire neighborhoods were in the path of these tornadoes.