Z-man wrote: "Abortion is the sacrament in their Church of Liberalism. It means everything to them. It's sick and bizarre."
And through all of your bullsh!t, you cannot illustrate to me why my support of abortion makes me morally bankrupt.
God does not opine about it. Jesus does not opine about it. The Bible does not even mention it, once.
According to the law of the land, it is perfectly legal for me to support a woman's right to choose to keep an embryo or not.
How do you support your case? How can you claim that God and Jesus are anti-abortion when both of these still living individuals never get proof to anyone that they consider it to be wrong.
Quit trying to speak on behalf of God, Jesus, or to offer words that the Bible itself does not contain.
Timbo wrote: "alprova...That answer is more lame than usual. They are not impeaching him because even if the Republican house impeached him the democrat senate would let him off the hook."
You're deflecting. Either he has done something worthy of impeachment or he has not. What has he done that he should be impeached for, and PLEASE...be specific.
"He is not enforcing the laws on the border, he broke the law with Obamcare, he is ignoring supeonas."
Not one immigration law is being ignored. There are plural laws being followed that supercede laws some want to see enforced, but not one law is being unenforced. ObamaCare was approved by the Supreme Court, and I was totally unaware that the President had been served a subpoena.
"He is not "overturning" laws, he is just ignoring them."
Cite one of them in detail.
"Maybe that is what a Republican president should do about abortion rights, ignore the supreme court ruling."
A Republican President is about as likely as me being crowned King of England.
It isn't going to happen.
Timbo, you're arguing hypotheticals that are not in evidence.
First of all, the current President has not used his pen to strike down any current law on the books. Not one.
Second, the law(s) that were changed, were temporary delays in emplementation, and had not yet taken place and were most definitely within the scope of the President's authority to offer such delays.
Had the President actually violated the Constitution in any manner, you know damn well there are enough people who would have instituted impeachment proceedings against the man.
Therefore, all this crap about the President violating the Constitution, is a load of crap and everyone should know it.
You people are convinced of your own lies.
Z-man wrote: "Ignorant? "
Very much so.
"You're not mysterious, you're not fascinating, you're not deep, your nuts."
Since I consider you to be very backwards and ignorant, I wouldn't expect you to be able to comprehend the things I write.
You're probably still learning to count with your shoes off.
"Is it me guys, or are his and Inq's posts regarding the Bible, GOD and Jesus indecipherable?"
I'm, sure they are to a man as ignorant as you are. So it must just be you.
Z-man wrote: "Jesus is nothing special"
He's not? I've never said that.
That he is.
"not the son of GOD"
Again, not something I have ever typed.
"GOD is a mass murderer"
32 times in fact.
"the Bible is not the word of God."
It is not.
"So then what are you basing your beliefs on?"
For the purposes of everything discussed in this forum, that which can be read in your Bible, my Bible, anyone's Bible.
My personal religious platform is not up for discussion. That's between myself and my God.
Z-man, who are you to determine who is worthy to be a Christian or not?
No one appointed you judge, jury, and executioner.
I have always maintained that the Bible is NOT the word of God, but that does not mean the Bible is not useful asa guidebook to morality, of history, and the teachings of the Son, also known as Jesus Christ.
Jesus is quoted throughout the New Testament, and if God were equally quoted throughout the Old Testament, than I might be more inclined to agree that the Bible contains the word of God.
As it is, there are very few direct quotations of God.
When I quote scripture, I always keep it in the context it was presented in the Bible. I am not a cherry-picker like some of you folk.
You know only what I want you to know about me. You have your opinions about me but that's it.
I happen to think you're the most ignorant soul who hangs around.
I only venture to guess than a man's soul is in danger when they consistently contradict the teachings of Christ and God himself.
You cannot use such standards against me, for not one of you have ever...EVER...disputed effectively that which I present as Biblical fact.
I feel it necessary to counter the judgments of the poster known as Conservative, or Connie, as I know him/her to be.
I am a Christian. What I am not is a Evangelical Christian, or any other Fundamental Christian.
I have attended many different religious platformed based churches in my lifetime, and have adopted many of their beliefs, and at the same time have rejected many beliefs as well.
Connie cannot deal with any truths that I type, especially if they contradict the Christian teachings he has had driven like nails into his brain.
My truths are not condemnations or statements against the Lord.
They are facts that may be found in the Bible, and can be confirmed at any time anyone desires to verify them for their own satisfaction.
Therefore, Jesus did indeed sin and it can be read in the Bible.
Jes cannot be God, for Jesus is recorded in the Bible stating clearly himself that God is his Father.
John stated clearly that no man hath EVER seen God.
Jesus cannot be God.
32 instances of mass murder are recorded in the Old Testament. There is no other way to describe them. Some were mass murders of children alone. God ordered or himself committed these murders.
And lastly, the Bible is not the word of God. It never has been. It was written by approximately 40 mortal human men, each with opinions of their own that you know made their way into their letters.
My God gave me a brain to reason with, to think with, to separate fact from fiction, and I have used it all of my life.
I urge others to do the same. I'm not on some quest to be popular or liked. I will be honest and forthright every time.
Y'all are babbling away ,but you're not coming up with the proof that I can go to that tells me that my support for a woman's right to choose is morally incorrect.
Where do we get our morals from?
Where am I supposed to be able to go to and read what is right and wrong?
And lastly, what other wrongs are not contained in the Bible that rival that of abortion? A couple of you claim there are other sins missing from the Bible. What are they?
You people are great at throwing darts, but you're not hitting any targets.
You people want everyone to believe that you know what God has on his mind all the time.
Why not get him to point you in the right direction and refute my words, for once.
It'll never happen....never!!
Z-man wrote: "Like I mentioned, liberalism is a disease. God help this country."
God is helping this country. He is seeing to it that more Liberals are elected to positions of power, keeping you right-wing nut jobs delgated to the back of the bus.
Get used to it.
I'm merely confused. For all these years, I have been hearing religious people spew that abortion was wrong.
So I go ap pick up the handbook to all of Christianity, even though the word "Chrsitian" appears only three times in the New Testament, and discover that...no...abortion isn't even mentioned in the Bible.
How can that be?
If God or his Son were opposed to the abortion of a child that one can ill afford or does not want to raise, for various reasons, why would they not address this in that all encompassing Bible?
I've been duped my entire life into believing that if one had a question about life, all they needed to do was to go to the Bible.
Here the issue is the most basic start to life, and it isn't even addressed at all.
I'm beginning to believe that some people who call themselves Christian, don't know a doggone thing when it comes down to it.