Fairmon
The point is that all the groups should be treated the same - if you want to change the rules of tax exempt, no problem from me. We'd all be better without the IRS, the Fair tax does that, the flat tax limits them.
Rickaroo - Thank you for having the chutzpah to put your name on your opinions - most people here don't, and I think if they did, they're tone would change. I can only speak for the overwhelming opinions of the people in the Chattanooga Tea Party. We are adamantly opposed to economic fascism of Reagan, Bush, and Obama (who I think may be the worst of the bunch.) And just like you, I believe the country would be better off following what I think important. As for not calling out librul - he and I weren't talking. My goal is to get the truth out about the Tea Party - the media will never print it. As for dirty politics - I agree, compared to the old days, it is very tame now.
I don't want a nanny state that takes care of us from cradle to grave - I want people to be able to fail - especially the big corporations (GN and others) and banks that robbed Americans of their hard earned money. I personaly have had failures in my life, but was fortunate to be able to get up and back on my feet again. I believe that small business is the engine of America, but unfortunately that engine is going away to the multi national corporations that are doing there best to rid themselves of the competition all with the help of the federal government.
Rickaroo - you win - I can't compete with a name calling person who doesn't even have the guts to use his own name, with "facts" that are wrong. No sense in my even trying.
Perhaps you should attend a few TO meetings and talk to the people that attend - it would give you some actual knowledge of what we are for. I have never met anyone at a meeting that believes that the big corporations and government should be working together hand in hand. That's economic fascism. I personally believe that these giant companies are ruining America by driving small business under. Many of the regulations we face are being pushed by big business to make it difficult for small companies. Regulations are necessary, but have gone too far. If you owned a business, you would understand. My narrow beliefs are that individuals should be free to make their own choices as long as they are not infringing on my neighbor. Here's an example. I am for non smoking in public buildings - I am against requiring private businesses to not allow smoking in their place of business. I believe seat belts are a good idea to wear, I am against requiring them to be worn. I am in favor of an insurance company making a policy that if you are not wearing a seat belt, you will not be covered - I have the choice then.
As to the glory days of America's economy after WW2 - people tend to forget that all the world's economies were destroyed, except for America. There was little competition for our goods and services, and we profited from helping rebuild the infrastructure of those countries.
As for wanting government to run according to my viewpoint - of course, how is that different from you wanting government to run by yours?
How it's being done for a lot of years (well before this administration) hasn't worked out too well.
Drew - What everyone seems to be missing from the Sequester (which people seem to forget was a compromise between Obama and the Republicans) is based upon all the doomsday scenarios that are playing out is that it appears that the federal government can't cut 1% of it's future budget without the sky falling. We are in serious trouble
A very well written response that I believe has little chance of changing minds. When the Tea Party is called a hate group for believing in individual liberty by the media, and OWS as a peaceful and responsible group - this country has nowhere to go but down. I don't know why the Tea Party philosophy of individual freedom, limited government, and economic responsibility is so frightening to them. We are called racists because we oppose Obama. We don't care what color he is - we care what his beliefs and policies are, and they are opposite of ours. The Tea Party was responsible for getting several black and latino's elected over the past 4 years. The Tea Party supported Herman Cain for President.
Perhaps what scares them is that most of us are not from the ruling class and they are afraid for their power. Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Alan West are a few of the new wave that are not bowing down to the old guard like McCain and Alexander or the media. This same old guard that has put this country into so much trouble. The name calling is all they have in their arsenal.
DJH - Yes I am part of the same group, I am the VP. Mark West is the most well known and the media typically reaches out to him for quotes. I seem to be the back up. There is no platform for the Tea Party - we are not a party, we are a movement. Every Tea Party group is independent, we receive no marching orders from anyone. There may be groups out there that attempt to speak for the whole movement - but they don't. Mark and I agree on many concepts which lie at the core of our belief system - but we disagree on many others. We have backed different candidates for elections (see the 2010 congressional election), I am not religious while he is. But on fiscal matters, we are pretty close, as well as the federal government far out stepping it's purpose. We both believe in a limited federal government and strong state and local governments which can be changed much easier than a federal office, and you can talk to your local official. If you don't like Lamar Alexander, which I don't, good luck getting rid of him. Don't like Fleischmann - same thing.I agree that we have no common ground with this President, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't listen to him "pitch me" on the golf course. Not that I'm going to be invited, but if he's reading this, invite me to Augusta National please. As for the solid science comment - I don't know what article or opinion you are referring to.
A tea party witch hunt: IRS admits to political discrimination
Fairmon The point is that all the groups should be treated the same - if you want to change the rules of tax exempt, no problem from me. We'd all be better without the IRS, the Fair tax does that, the flat tax limits them.
Tea party bitter over Obama golf outing
Rickaroo - Thank you for having the chutzpah to put your name on your opinions - most people here don't, and I think if they did, they're tone would change. I can only speak for the overwhelming opinions of the people in the Chattanooga Tea Party. We are adamantly opposed to economic fascism of Reagan, Bush, and Obama (who I think may be the worst of the bunch.) And just like you, I believe the country would be better off following what I think important. As for not calling out librul - he and I weren't talking. My goal is to get the truth out about the Tea Party - the media will never print it. As for dirty politics - I agree, compared to the old days, it is very tame now. I don't want a nanny state that takes care of us from cradle to grave - I want people to be able to fail - especially the big corporations (GN and others) and banks that robbed Americans of their hard earned money. I personaly have had failures in my life, but was fortunate to be able to get up and back on my feet again. I believe that small business is the engine of America, but unfortunately that engine is going away to the multi national corporations that are doing there best to rid themselves of the competition all with the help of the federal government.
Tea party bitter over Obama golf outing
Rickaroo - you win - I can't compete with a name calling person who doesn't even have the guts to use his own name, with "facts" that are wrong. No sense in my even trying.
Tea party bitter over Obama golf outing
Rickaroo - I will be happy to answer you as soon as you stop using a derogatory term for me. If you can't do that, we have nothing to talk about.
Tea party bitter over Obama golf outing
Rickaroo -
Perhaps you should attend a few TO meetings and talk to the people that attend - it would give you some actual knowledge of what we are for. I have never met anyone at a meeting that believes that the big corporations and government should be working together hand in hand. That's economic fascism. I personally believe that these giant companies are ruining America by driving small business under. Many of the regulations we face are being pushed by big business to make it difficult for small companies. Regulations are necessary, but have gone too far. If you owned a business, you would understand. My narrow beliefs are that individuals should be free to make their own choices as long as they are not infringing on my neighbor. Here's an example. I am for non smoking in public buildings - I am against requiring private businesses to not allow smoking in their place of business. I believe seat belts are a good idea to wear, I am against requiring them to be worn. I am in favor of an insurance company making a policy that if you are not wearing a seat belt, you will not be covered - I have the choice then.
As to the glory days of America's economy after WW2 - people tend to forget that all the world's economies were destroyed, except for America. There was little competition for our goods and services, and we profited from helping rebuild the infrastructure of those countries.
As for wanting government to run according to my viewpoint - of course, how is that different from you wanting government to run by yours? How it's being done for a lot of years (well before this administration) hasn't worked out too well.
Tea party bitter over Obama golf outing
The forked tongue and philosophy comment
Tea party bitter over Obama golf outing
Shen - Please back up your allegations.
Drew's Views
Drew - What everyone seems to be missing from the Sequester (which people seem to forget was a compromise between Obama and the Republicans) is based upon all the doomsday scenarios that are playing out is that it appears that the federal government can't cut 1% of it's future budget without the sky falling. We are in serious trouble
Tea party bitter over Obama golf outing
Mark -
A very well written response that I believe has little chance of changing minds. When the Tea Party is called a hate group for believing in individual liberty by the media, and OWS as a peaceful and responsible group - this country has nowhere to go but down. I don't know why the Tea Party philosophy of individual freedom, limited government, and economic responsibility is so frightening to them. We are called racists because we oppose Obama. We don't care what color he is - we care what his beliefs and policies are, and they are opposite of ours. The Tea Party was responsible for getting several black and latino's elected over the past 4 years. The Tea Party supported Herman Cain for President. Perhaps what scares them is that most of us are not from the ruling class and they are afraid for their power. Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Alan West are a few of the new wave that are not bowing down to the old guard like McCain and Alexander or the media. This same old guard that has put this country into so much trouble. The name calling is all they have in their arsenal.
Tea party bitter over Obama golf outing
DJH - Yes I am part of the same group, I am the VP. Mark West is the most well known and the media typically reaches out to him for quotes. I seem to be the back up. There is no platform for the Tea Party - we are not a party, we are a movement. Every Tea Party group is independent, we receive no marching orders from anyone. There may be groups out there that attempt to speak for the whole movement - but they don't. Mark and I agree on many concepts which lie at the core of our belief system - but we disagree on many others. We have backed different candidates for elections (see the 2010 congressional election), I am not religious while he is. But on fiscal matters, we are pretty close, as well as the federal government far out stepping it's purpose. We both believe in a limited federal government and strong state and local governments which can be changed much easier than a federal office, and you can talk to your local official. If you don't like Lamar Alexander, which I don't, good luck getting rid of him. Don't like Fleischmann - same thing.I agree that we have no common ground with this President, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't listen to him "pitch me" on the golf course. Not that I'm going to be invited, but if he's reading this, invite me to Augusta National please. As for the solid science comment - I don't know what article or opinion you are referring to.
I hope I have answered your questions.