Old connie would really be surprised if she could read the minds of her fellow congregants wouldn't she?
Al I did not mean the Church of Christ denomination, i meant the fact that the Church (capital "C") is the body of Christ in the world, therefore it is often called the universal Church or the catholic Church as in the Apostle's Creed where the word "catholic" refers not the the Roman Catholic Church but to the core meaning of the word - universal/all inclusive
What this cartoon has to do with religion, Israel and its misguided Christian advocates, and Palestine seems to be this, when you live by the sword, you die by the sword.
al, you give the matter of the divinity of Jesus serious discernment, prayer, talk it over with AND listen to other Christians who can offer a perspective on your grounding, and decide for yourself. The core challenge of the Trinity is explaining its consistency with a monotheistic God, and there are paths to follow. There are other places in the Gospels where Jesus does refer to his divinity but describing the Trinity defies human definitive expression. On one thing I agree with you in the matter for sure, you cannot appreciate his act of sacrifice without appreciating his humanity.
And, Al, apparently unlike connie, the congregation I attend is one for sinners, not only that, its doors are open to anyone seeking a right relationship with God. "Membership" is a human invention invented from denominationalism, and in our denomination technically it is qualified on one's assent to the claims Paul made in Romans 10:1-9, but... there is only one church, the universal church of Christ.
Al, Jesus the human could have been using irony with the fellow, playing with the idea of his dual (special) nature, Mark was a proficient user of irony, nevertheless you opened a line of theological discussion that is pretty deep. Why would someone come running to a human calling him/her "good" when all humans have sin lurking in them?" (Now connie is going to accuse me of calling Jesus a woman.)
let me see, folks, am I reading it right? This person connie sez there are no sinners in her church??? If that is the case why do we need Jesus? We can save ourselves by not sinning! But how can a church stop what is in one's heart? Didn't Paul say "I know what is right but no matter how hard I try to do it, I do what is wrong???" I guess Paul attended a "false apostate church" as junebug calls it, no less a heretic in her eyes. Whoa.
Is connie confessing by example at 5:33P to being a blind guide with a millstone tied around his/her neck sailing on a leaking rowboat in a storm-tossed sea...???
darn connie sez I let sinners in a congregation as if I was a minister (which we all are)! In congregations I've been a member there have been adulterers, fornicating teenagers and adults, drunks, cheats, used car salesmen, liars, egotists, thieves, errant pastors, voyeurs, jealous husbands and wives, wife beaters, husbands and wives that sodomized each other, idol worshippers and golly even homosexuals. So folks please ignore her ranting, he/she makes the whole point of what a congregation is - it is a hospital for sinners, not a luxury hotel for gold cuff-linked, designer watch bearing preachers and holier-than-thou hangers-on...We preach Jesus defeated death for us because we cannot defeat the source of death - sin. Show me a person who does not sin and I'll show you Jesus.
may the Lord bless you connie.
I guess really lit a fuse under connie, she/he sez , ""The Reformed Christian faith understands we are all ministers...." Now that is an obvious lie straight out of hell. - Guess she's never read Paul.
Connie sez, "'(Inquiringmind says) we allow all sinners to be members,' I believe that, but what anti Christian congregation is that? It is certainly not a Christian congregation."
Guess she's never read the Gospels or Paul, or is trying her hand at being reformed by re-writing scripture. How does it go originally, "We have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God?" She is clearly practicing some kind of errant belief, now she writes it "Only a select few have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God and I detest their presence among me".
Folks, find me a member (or leader) of a congregation who is not a sinner and I'll find you Jesus. If you are a seeker, don't be swayed by thinking connie represents all Christianity but only a fringe version of it.
Brush the dust from the soles of my shoes.
O, timbo sez, "I don't see any Christian radical blowing anything up." I guess he forgets that guy ( was it in Oklahoma or Kansas?) that went in an abortion clinic and killed the doctor?
z-fister sez, 'In my opinion we're all sinners. I should be able to state that homosexuality is wrong, if I want. "
That is exactly the point we have been trying to make, we are not bound by con-man/woman's damnations and all your political machinations. Some of us also believe we should not judge all Muslims by the extreme conservative branch of Islam, just like we should not judge all Christianity by the extreme conservative branch of Christianity. Some of us also believe you need to take Al's 3:20PM post into account.
To defend an alien, or a Muslim is not to embrace their faith or plight, rather it is to acknowledge their brotherhood with us as neighbors.
timbo sez Deuteronomy 17 - 17:2 "is not practiced by anyone anymore." So I though you, timbo, and your bud connie believed in a literal interpretation of the bible, does than mean there are bunch of folks going to burn in hell because they eschew Deuteronomy 17 - 17:2 (and Leviticus)?? Sinners, the lot of them!