librul, will you close you mouth so your eyes are open and go back and read my post? It has nothing to do with your preoccupation with law 'n order or the content of your reply.
Rickie, Come on and give me a break. You say, "you to announce your complete ignorance of how most Christians actually perceive him - as half-man/half-god. " I don't know if half believe it or not but you will not find anything in the Bible saying that. Don't paint me with the foibles of others, i hjave enough already.
I used to share your opinion of Paul but as a delved into his writings and his history, and identified the books attributed to him that are ob questionable provenance, I saw a man who was humbled and burdened beyond belief by his actions as a Pharisee dragging Christian Jews back to Jerusalem for trial and/or death by stoning only to have his epiphany turn him around. That is a heavy burden to carry compared to what many of us carry. So, I give him his due, appreciate where he is coming from, his loathing of discord in the congregation and am careful with books like Ephesians and the Timothies, maybe Galatians, for example.
I am getting a laugh out of the funny but flawed stereotypes ayb is passing out. I thought drinking beer was an islamic sin capable of severe punishment like making you chug a Schlitz or Budweiser before they cut off something.
timbo's opinion is steeped in good old boy north county racism. Your racism is apparent in your dislike of uppity African-Americans, or as you would probably call them, "negroes."
Please give us a quote of one racist statement by Mr. Holder.
Studies of traffic control find that traffic moves on a street/road generally at the maximum safe average speed. By placing radar on a street and surveying traffic one can determine the suitable speed limit. But it would cut the revenue from speed cameras.
It is seldom done in cities. Look at Veterans Bridge. Speed limit is 35 mph, and one could easily travel 45 mph safely.
ole librul forgets a driver is supposed to exercise due caution, regardless of what others do. It is not a matter of his rights.
librul fergits an idiot is someone who feels he is smarter than everyone else and doesn't have to think.
timmie, timmie, timmie, now, now, now, calm down, it is ok.
We know any African-American who holds elective or appointed office is suspect in your eyes, especially if a Blue, but we understand how hard it is to see through those two cutout eye-holes you made in the sheet, not to mention the smoke from the burning kerosene on the cross.
I'm sure you prefer John Mitchell as AG.
ricki, see 9/28, 4:24PM
timbo, you've been under the porch sniffing gasoline again, or didn't control your fermentation conditions properly and got some MeOH in the brew.
ricki sez, "But they still seem to need some sort of justification for the basis of their belief...They still buy into the dogmatic notion that they need to be "saved"... they come up with these far-fetched analyses of the Bible, such as what you have shown here, IM, in order to retain a certain dignity and sanctity about the Bible and their beliefs."
Ricki, you are free to decide for yourself how you choose to approach ethical behavior and your sense of purpose and reason for being, far be it for me to tell you what you believe, only extremists would try that.
You may find it useful to remember that Paul said the Gospel is foolishness to reasonable men. It is not something you may reason out with "evidence-based knowledge of today." You figure it out or you don't. Anyone who really "gets" it better be walking away very unsettled by the uncertainty of faith.
(And there is no half-god/Half-man in my reading of the OT/NT! I'm not sure where you read or heard that idea. ) (:-)
"inquiringmind, I understand that you desire to retain the Bible as something pure and explainable, but you cannot have it both ways... Pigmentation? Please....The world was not wiped out in a great flood....Clearly, the Bible was written to explain many mysteries of life, and quite poorly at that."
Al, not sure where you find evidence in my comments on the Bible and pigmentation to leap to these conclusions. Are you arguing against the DNA chromosomal studies or what?
It sounds like you want to argue the Bible is not literally absolute (few disagree) and then use passages (Gen 11:7) literally to support the argument.
The Bible is an inspired human document that represents the understood relationship between the humanity and Creator. It is a mix of metaphor/poetry that is subjective, non-literal thought; and prose. It was written over enough years to span the breadth of human understanding of the world. 2,000 years ago no one knew "epilepsy," only some people were "possessed by a demon." Part of it is oral history recorded in writing. There is evidence of heavy redacting and editing, of later traditions revising older ones.
I am not sure how any of us can figure out concretely what "inspired by God" really means.
A physics textbook on electromagnetic theory is gibberish and unintelligible to someone who has not learned the math and done experiments to test the e-m theory. A calculus book falls in a similar state. Both books are "pure and explainable" after a lot of work to understand and practice them. The Bible is quite similar even to the point of being dangerous in the hands of undereducated fanatics who take little or no time to understand it, read it in its original language and figure it out including the contradictory parts derived over the reach of history. (Physicists and engineers used those text books to fashion nuclear and chem-biological weapons of war as well as to develop computer methods that lead to better drugs.)
If you haven't you ought to pick up a copy of "The Lathe of Heaven" or find a tape of the PBS film and watch it. It is interesting.