"Gang activity is when I disrespect you and yours. Your house, your home, your gang,'' Joe said. "I shoot up your territory. I taunt. I start shooting up your spot. Flying colors. Taunting your crew.''
Gang activity is really about maintaining respect. When collective respect for the entire gang is dirtied, then, the city has the potential to explode. Back and forth. Back and forth.
Is it irony or just coincidence that both street gangs and cops basically abide by the same honor codes? 1. most basic don't snitch.others: 2. dont' disrespect or you might have an entire regiment coming after you. 3. stick together. 4. honor the brotherhood.
Yet one is considered a menace to society that needs to be eradicated, while the other is considered a necessary evil needed to proect us all from the menace?
Maybe therein lies the solution to street gangs somewhere?
Ike, I don't blame you for hesitating to use your real name. I too suffered stalking and harassment when a member of authority once revealed my name, where I live, a description of me and the type car I drove. I'm not sure what the purpose was, other than an attempt to get someone to hurt or harm me or my family on their behalf. All the while, their hands would be clean.
I've also been told of others this has happened to. In my situaiton, I suffered having individuals drive by my house, stop and take pictures, or call out demeaning remarks. Someone somehow got hold of my unlisted phone number and at times called my home with no one on the other end, just an open phone line with what sounded like police radio transmission in the background. Spread untrue rumors to my neighbors etc.
I'm not at all sure why a few are drumming for others to reveal their names, unless there are plans to somehow use it against them or hrass them either directly or indirectly. Some of these individuals are well connected with members of authority. Therefore, they know they're protected and have nothing to worry for themselves or their families by revealing their names.
until the threat of action rears its menacing head and your jelly-filled doughnut backbone quickly slithers out of sight.
At least we show up. Your type talk your sh!t, but rarely to never show up for the actual protest. Leaving the true brave standing alone and without any support whatsoevah! LOL 'nuf said. ;)
OH, that's where you're soo wrong, ddarwin. I have the backbone alright. But I also know how to choose my battles wisely, and in a way where an entire innocent group or community won't pay the price. I know how individuals who call others cowards won't even show up and leave the real backbones stranded and standing alone.
Now, go stand beside the woman in the below article and offer up your support to her. Offer to take the beating in her place next time.
Go offer spiritual, physical and financial support to the family of the New Orleans woman who was murdered years ago when she filed a complaint against a NOLA cop after witnessing him beating an innocent man in the street for no reason. The cop got a drug dealer friend/associate to carry out a hit on her. Which the drug dealer followed through. Woman gunned down in a driveby.
excerpt: "BALTIMORE (CN) - Baltimore police beat up a woman and smashed her camera for filming them beating up a man, telling her: "You want to film something bi/tch? Film this!" the woman claims in court."
When I read Scott C. Wilson letter, Ooltewah, and specifically this excerpt: "Their culture, their beliefs, their understanding of the world outside their village are absolute. Nothing that ventures outside that box is acceptable, or in any way desired", for some reason I got this image of those innocent Muslim women and children being chased from a Wal-Mart right after 9/11. A case of Pot/ Kettle?
ddarwin, you have no clue. You speak from an ideal and polly anna mindset. Neither of which exist.
You've really gone deep and off the edge, dd, talking about swastikas and nazis occupation. None of which is necessary or relevant to the discussion. sad actually.
And we'll just leave it at that, without going into gory detail.
gjuster said...
The forked tongue and philosophy comment
All I have to say, gjust: I receive emails daily from various tea party groups and tea party supporters who believe I'm a t-party member. I know their base, their real philosophy, and what their core beliefs are. The only thing that's changed is strategy.*
Actually, ddarwin, experiencing it all and having personal accounts of what was taking place are far more different than anything you might read in a HIS-story book. It wasn't at all that cut and dry, darling.
When it came to southern news especially, ddarwin, they were often either complicit or directly involved in covering up, going along with and taking part in many of the brutal injustices that took place during that period. It wasn't unusual for them to help set up a prominent supporter of CR movement, white/black, right at that critical moment and catch them on camera with some strange woman jumping into their arms pretending to be their mistress and broadcasting it all over the media. Assisting in destroying families, careers, livelihoods. Or help spread rumors as in the case women like Rosa Parks, accusing them of being a wh/re and sl/ut (their words) "who'd slept around with male members of NAACP."*
I said nothing about news crews staying away, ddarwin. I was speaking of the dangers for some young black youth from a poor community taking your advice and attempting to whip out a camera at some critical moment to record a cop either antagonizing or brutally beating someone else or about to beat them. Don't twist my words. You have no idea.
After all, NY have been known to shoot and kill because the NYPD claims to have mistaken a youths 3 musketeer candy bar in a silver wrapper for a gun. Or the SRO in a GA school recently who slammed a young diabetic girls head so severely into a desk (causing her to vomit in the back of his patrol car), arresing her and hauling her off to jail because she fell asleep in school detention.
Those type events you'll never likely exeprience or be personally affected by in your world.
You forget, those situations during the civil rights movement that were caught on camera, were carried out in groups, because even they knew the dangers of 1 person alone. There were many others injustices, many locally, left out of the history books that happened to individuals.
The tea party mission statement and what they speak do not match their actions and core beliefs. Again, if you want to get a full understanding of their truest core belief system you'll have take note on a national level. Unfortunately, far too many Chattanoogans only keep up to date with happenings and what's said in Chattanooga. Leaving much of their understanding limited, which makes them more vulnerable and easily duped.
Tea Party speaketh with forked tongues. Their philosophy (written and spoken) does not match their actions.
Reminders of the story of the girl walking along the path who was tricked into picking up the snake who promised not to bite her. The snake, being a snake, did what snakes do. It bit her, and reminded her: you know me by my nature.
Cook: Day 48
"Gang activity is when I disrespect you and yours. Your house, your home, your gang,'' Joe said. "I shoot up your territory. I taunt. I start shooting up your spot. Flying colors. Taunting your crew.'' Gang activity is really about maintaining respect. When collective respect for the entire gang is dirtied, then, the city has the potential to explode. Back and forth. Back and forth.
Is it irony or just coincidence that both street gangs and cops basically abide by the same honor codes? 1. most basic don't snitch. others: 2. dont' disrespect or you might have an entire regiment coming after you. 3. stick together. 4. honor the brotherhood.
Yet one is considered a menace to society that needs to be eradicated, while the other is considered a necessary evil needed to proect us all from the menace?
Maybe therein lies the solution to street gangs somewhere?
The Signal
Ike, I don't blame you for hesitating to use your real name. I too suffered stalking and harassment when a member of authority once revealed my name, where I live, a description of me and the type car I drove. I'm not sure what the purpose was, other than an attempt to get someone to hurt or harm me or my family on their behalf. All the while, their hands would be clean.
I've also been told of others this has happened to. In my situaiton, I suffered having individuals drive by my house, stop and take pictures, or call out demeaning remarks. Someone somehow got hold of my unlisted phone number and at times called my home with no one on the other end, just an open phone line with what sounded like police radio transmission in the background. Spread untrue rumors to my neighbors etc. I'm not at all sure why a few are drumming for others to reveal their names, unless there are plans to somehow use it against them or hrass them either directly or indirectly. Some of these individuals are well connected with members of authority. Therefore, they know they're protected and have nothing to worry for themselves or their families by revealing their names.
David Cook: Mercy and jail
until the threat of action rears its menacing head and your jelly-filled doughnut backbone quickly slithers out of sight.
At least we show up. Your type talk your sh!t, but rarely to never show up for the actual protest. Leaving the true brave standing alone and without any support whatsoevah! LOL 'nuf said. ;)
David Cook: Mercy and jail
OH, that's where you're soo wrong, ddarwin. I have the backbone alright. But I also know how to choose my battles wisely, and in a way where an entire innocent group or community won't pay the price. I know how individuals who call others cowards won't even show up and leave the real backbones stranded and standing alone. Now, go stand beside the woman in the below article and offer up your support to her. Offer to take the beating in her place next time. Go offer spiritual, physical and financial support to the family of the New Orleans woman who was murdered years ago when she filed a complaint against a NOLA cop after witnessing him beating an innocent man in the street for no reason. The cop got a drug dealer friend/associate to carry out a hit on her. Which the drug dealer followed through. Woman gunned down in a driveby.
excerpt: "BALTIMORE (CN) - Baltimore police beat up a woman and smashed her camera for filming them beating up a man, telling her: "You want to film something bi/tch? Film this!" the woman claims in court."
http://www.courthousenews.com/2013/05/10/57519.htm
Officials need to focus on city’s best interests and other letters to the editors
When I read Scott C. Wilson letter, Ooltewah, and specifically this excerpt: "Their culture, their beliefs, their understanding of the world outside their village are absolute. Nothing that ventures outside that box is acceptable, or in any way desired", for some reason I got this image of those innocent Muslim women and children being chased from a Wal-Mart right after 9/11. A case of Pot/ Kettle?
David Cook: Mercy and jail
ddarwin, you have no clue. You speak from an ideal and polly anna mindset. Neither of which exist.
You've really gone deep and off the edge, dd, talking about swastikas and nazis occupation. None of which is necessary or relevant to the discussion. sad actually.
And we'll just leave it at that, without going into gory detail.
Tea party bitter over Obama golf outing
gjuster said... The forked tongue and philosophy comment
All I have to say, gjust: I receive emails daily from various tea party groups and tea party supporters who believe I'm a t-party member. I know their base, their real philosophy, and what their core beliefs are. The only thing that's changed is strategy.*
Tea party bitter over Obama golf outing
What allegations gjuster? The story of the snake? :)
David Cook: Mercy and jail
Seeing is much different than just hearing
Actually, ddarwin, experiencing it all and having personal accounts of what was taking place are far more different than anything you might read in a HIS-story book. It wasn't at all that cut and dry, darling.
When it came to southern news especially, ddarwin, they were often either complicit or directly involved in covering up, going along with and taking part in many of the brutal injustices that took place during that period. It wasn't unusual for them to help set up a prominent supporter of CR movement, white/black, right at that critical moment and catch them on camera with some strange woman jumping into their arms pretending to be their mistress and broadcasting it all over the media. Assisting in destroying families, careers, livelihoods. Or help spread rumors as in the case women like Rosa Parks, accusing them of being a wh/re and sl/ut (their words) "who'd slept around with male members of NAACP."*
I said nothing about news crews staying away, ddarwin. I was speaking of the dangers for some young black youth from a poor community taking your advice and attempting to whip out a camera at some critical moment to record a cop either antagonizing or brutally beating someone else or about to beat them. Don't twist my words. You have no idea.
After all, NY have been known to shoot and kill because the NYPD claims to have mistaken a youths 3 musketeer candy bar in a silver wrapper for a gun. Or the SRO in a GA school recently who slammed a young diabetic girls head so severely into a desk (causing her to vomit in the back of his patrol car), arresing her and hauling her off to jail because she fell asleep in school detention. Those type events you'll never likely exeprience or be personally affected by in your world.
You forget, those situations during the civil rights movement that were caught on camera, were carried out in groups, because even they knew the dangers of 1 person alone. There were many others injustices, many locally, left out of the history books that happened to individuals.
Tea party bitter over Obama golf outing
The tea party mission statement and what they speak do not match their actions and core beliefs. Again, if you want to get a full understanding of their truest core belief system you'll have take note on a national level. Unfortunately, far too many Chattanoogans only keep up to date with happenings and what's said in Chattanooga. Leaving much of their understanding limited, which makes them more vulnerable and easily duped.
Tea Party speaketh with forked tongues. Their philosophy (written and spoken) does not match their actions.
Reminders of the story of the girl walking along the path who was tricked into picking up the snake who promised not to bite her. The snake, being a snake, did what snakes do. It bit her, and reminded her: you know me by my nature.