There are many 19 year olds out there who are paying more attention than you
would think. They're not buying everything they're told and I'm sure they knew
President Obama was lying in his interview with Bill O'Reilly when he said he has
not raised taxes. Musicman375 is correct, acerigger, your comment smacks of
elitism and sour grapes.
Bravo to the 19 year old student. She understands what it means to be an
American better than the older people on this forum. She understands
the magnitude of the loss of freedom and personal liberty that will most
defininately be unleashed if the mandate is not stopped. Maybe her
generation will not be so willing to accept governmnt bullying and the
loss of constitutional rights.
Acerigger, you know darn will you'd be applauding her wisdom at such a
young age if she was for the mandate and your agenda. Very revealing.
This topic cannot be "flogged" enough. It should be repeated over and over
that it's unconstitutional and is a loss of freedom.
I completely agree with this TFP piece. I believe Americans have often
succeeded inspite of the government and it's desire to control. After
all, the government is composed of people, obviously, who can be
greedy and power hungry.
It often seems that President Obama thinks he's playing with fake money,
Monopoly money. There needs to be more respect shown to taxpayers
given that our tax dollars are the governments primary source of revenue.
It think both political parties need to remember that.
The only judges you'll find that will declare the mandate in Obamacare not
unconstitutional are ones who are in bed with the Democrats or love the
concept of bullying citizens around, like Clay Bennett and many on this
forum, it seems. No honest person, with any knowledge of the Constitution,
can believe the mandate is constitutional. This push for a mandate really
does illustrate the profound lack of respect Democrats have for the U.S.
Constitution, and for freedom. Thank God for the November 2nd election
results.
I don't have all the answers, obviously. I don't believe it's in a fail mode. It's
being repeated so often that it doesn't work that it's taken as fact. I would
only change a couple of things. Being allowed to shop for coverage across
state lines and maybe a couple more, but that's about it. Once again, the
false claim that over 50 million people in this country have no coverage is a
lie.
So much of the Democratic Party party agenda has an alarmist tone. So much
of their agenda results in loss of freedom and loss of constitutional rights.
I don't know how to construct a better health care system. But I do know
having the government step in between me and my doctor is a dumb and
dangerous approach. I don't like the way Obama and the Democrats have
portrayed Doctors. They seem to think that they know more than they do
and can simply boss them around. There's already too many restrictions
on Doctors thanks to the government.
Tort reform needs to be done! If you stop the lawsuit avalanche so much
pressure will be taken off of everyone. Sad to say that politicians are in
bed with trial lawyers. The Democrat Party will not, absolutely will not
touch them. If you have strong tort reform, then all costs will go down.
Well, Librul, I do recognize it. I see it in Europe and Canada. I also recognize
a socialist when I see one, and a socialist agenda. Come on! No one is fooling
anyone. You can see it a mile away. In the information age and with piles and
piles of examples of failed socialist policies in various countries since the early
1900's we know a bad thing when we see one.
Livn4life has a good point. The only way one can go along with that mandate is
to dismiss the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights as just some old gargage
some old dudes a long time ago slapped together that was ok then, but means
nothing now. What's troublesome about the Democratic Party is how quick they
are to poo poo the US Constitution.
Librul, your last paragraph is quite a fantasy! Your quote is amusing.
"democratically controlled by the working class"
While that all sounds fine and dandy at the outset as a motivation, it
always degenerates into utter incompetance and corruption, as we've
seen demonstrated in other countries who have a government controlled
health care system. Granting our government a crown of trust and of
expertise in this matter is foolish and dangerous.
The often quoted and absurd figure often thrown around of 50 million
Americans with no health coverage at all is simply a lie. Ever heard of
medicare and medicaid? A more accurate figure would be about 11 or
so million. The bulk of those are younger people who don't feel the
need to pay for it.
I hardly think catagorizing Obamacare as socialized medicine is a sign
of disrespect. That's an opinion based on the agenda of those who are
backing it who seem to admire other governement run health systems
around the world.
The federal judges ruling in Florida, and in the other states, makes it quite
clear that the federal government has no business forcing citizens to buy
something. That's a slippery slope. Anyone who will deny that either has
no problem with it or is naive.
Yes, it seems that the region hungers for democracy. I would say that former
President Bush was correct on that matter. It remains to be seen if President
Obama will openly back those yearning for democracy and not be so quick to
back down from hardline Muslims, as he did during the Iran protests.
I don't see Egyptians eager to trade one authoritarian regime for an even more
harsh one. Fundamentalist Islam and freedom are not compatible. A steady
drum beat of hatred for the state of Israel will not bring the price of food down
or increase employment.
Oh, you silly, silly progressives!
You whores for Gore. Put down
your global warming toys and
let go of your greenhouse gas
fetish. Deflate those Sarah Palin
and Michelle Bachman blow up
dolls. There's work to be done!
The Chinese have us by the &#@$%.
and terrorists are building dirty
bombs and you can only fret
about the weather and SUV driving
soccer moms.
Mr. Harp is a prophet sent to this forum to
lead the misguided horde to the promised
land of common sense and logic.
Common sense and logic, are increasingly
rare commodities that should be mandated.
Mr. eeeeek, with all due respect, and my
apologies for any unecessary e's added
to your name, your post is lame. If one can
be forced to purchase one commodity, then
anything is in play.
Opposing ObamaCare on principle
There are many 19 year olds out there who are paying more attention than you would think. They're not buying everything they're told and I'm sure they knew President Obama was lying in his interview with Bill O'Reilly when he said he has not raised taxes. Musicman375 is correct, acerigger, your comment smacks of elitism and sour grapes.
Opposing ObamaCare on principle
Bravo to the 19 year old student. She understands what it means to be an American better than the older people on this forum. She understands the magnitude of the loss of freedom and personal liberty that will most defininately be unleashed if the mandate is not stopped. Maybe her generation will not be so willing to accept governmnt bullying and the loss of constitutional rights.
Acerigger, you know darn will you'd be applauding her wisdom at such a young age if she was for the mandate and your agenda. Very revealing.
This topic cannot be "flogged" enough. It should be repeated over and over that it's unconstitutional and is a loss of freedom.
A disturbing comparison
I completely agree with this TFP piece. I believe Americans have often succeeded inspite of the government and it's desire to control. After all, the government is composed of people, obviously, who can be greedy and power hungry.
It often seems that President Obama thinks he's playing with fake money, Monopoly money. There needs to be more respect shown to taxpayers given that our tax dollars are the governments primary source of revenue.
It think both political parties need to remember that.
Health Care
The only judges you'll find that will declare the mandate in Obamacare not unconstitutional are ones who are in bed with the Democrats or love the concept of bullying citizens around, like Clay Bennett and many on this forum, it seems. No honest person, with any knowledge of the Constitution, can believe the mandate is constitutional. This push for a mandate really does illustrate the profound lack of respect Democrats have for the U.S. Constitution, and for freedom. Thank God for the November 2nd election results.
Before he was for a 'mandate' ...
I don't have all the answers, obviously. I don't believe it's in a fail mode. It's being repeated so often that it doesn't work that it's taken as fact. I would only change a couple of things. Being allowed to shop for coverage across state lines and maybe a couple more, but that's about it. Once again, the false claim that over 50 million people in this country have no coverage is a lie.
So much of the Democratic Party party agenda has an alarmist tone. So much of their agenda results in loss of freedom and loss of constitutional rights.
I don't know how to construct a better health care system. But I do know having the government step in between me and my doctor is a dumb and dangerous approach. I don't like the way Obama and the Democrats have portrayed Doctors. They seem to think that they know more than they do and can simply boss them around. There's already too many restrictions on Doctors thanks to the government.
Tort reform needs to be done! If you stop the lawsuit avalanche so much pressure will be taken off of everyone. Sad to say that politicians are in bed with trial lawyers. The Democrat Party will not, absolutely will not touch them. If you have strong tort reform, then all costs will go down.
Before he was for a 'mandate' ...
Well, Librul, I do recognize it. I see it in Europe and Canada. I also recognize a socialist when I see one, and a socialist agenda. Come on! No one is fooling anyone. You can see it a mile away. In the information age and with piles and piles of examples of failed socialist policies in various countries since the early 1900's we know a bad thing when we see one.
Livn4life has a good point. The only way one can go along with that mandate is to dismiss the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights as just some old gargage some old dudes a long time ago slapped together that was ok then, but means nothing now. What's troublesome about the Democratic Party is how quick they are to poo poo the US Constitution.
Before he was for a 'mandate' ...
Librul, your last paragraph is quite a fantasy! Your quote is amusing.
"democratically controlled by the working class"
While that all sounds fine and dandy at the outset as a motivation, it always degenerates into utter incompetance and corruption, as we've seen demonstrated in other countries who have a government controlled health care system. Granting our government a crown of trust and of expertise in this matter is foolish and dangerous.
The often quoted and absurd figure often thrown around of 50 million Americans with no health coverage at all is simply a lie. Ever heard of medicare and medicaid? A more accurate figure would be about 11 or so million. The bulk of those are younger people who don't feel the need to pay for it.
I hardly think catagorizing Obamacare as socialized medicine is a sign of disrespect. That's an opinion based on the agenda of those who are backing it who seem to admire other governement run health systems around the world.
The federal judges ruling in Florida, and in the other states, makes it quite clear that the federal government has no business forcing citizens to buy something. That's a slippery slope. Anyone who will deny that either has no problem with it or is naive.
Toppling Mubarak
Yes, it seems that the region hungers for democracy. I would say that former President Bush was correct on that matter. It remains to be seen if President Obama will openly back those yearning for democracy and not be so quick to back down from hardline Muslims, as he did during the Iran protests.
I don't see Egyptians eager to trade one authoritarian regime for an even more harsh one. Fundamentalist Islam and freedom are not compatible. A steady drum beat of hatred for the state of Israel will not bring the price of food down or increase employment.
The Winter of 2011
Oh, you silly, silly progressives!
You whores for Gore. Put down your global warming toys and let go of your greenhouse gas fetish. Deflate those Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachman blow up dolls. There's work to be done!
The Chinese have us by the &#@$%. and terrorists are building dirty bombs and you can only fret about the weather and SUV driving soccer moms.
Unconstitutional ObamaCare
Mr. Harp is a prophet sent to this forum to lead the misguided horde to the promised land of common sense and logic.
Common sense and logic, are increasingly rare commodities that should be mandated.
Mr. eeeeek, with all due respect, and my apologies for any unecessary e's added to your name, your post is lame. If one can be forced to purchase one commodity, then anything is in play.
I believe you know it, and approve of it.