tribal's comment history

tribal said...

whatsthefuss, Your logic fails when you consider that everyone must get health insurance or pay $95/year. Most young people will take the health insurance that they previously could not afford over throwing their money away.

October 2, 2013 at 11:12 a.m.
tribal said...

Facyspacy, the point is that your insurance is probably crap in the fine print and your provider is being forced to bring it up to spec. My premiums are not changing at all because the insurance is already up to that spec.

At least 30 million will be signing up. You're the one fooling yourself if you think that they won't - aside from the fact that they are required to sign up or pay a fine, there are ~70 million plus Americans living in what qualifies as poverty.

Degage, the exemptions talking point is an old, tired one that has been debunked even by the likes of Fox News. Sorry, but it's clear to anyone with half a brain that the hardliner GOP elements are to blame for this particular issue. Both parties share the blame for our current fiscal woes, but this shutdown is entirely the result of a desperate gambit by a minority caucus who are well aware that public sentiment has been gradually shifting away from hardline conservatism for quite some time and that trend has only accelerated in the past few years.

October 2, 2013 at 10:34 a.m.
tribal said...

Jonses, if you're actually weighing the option of paying for your employees' health insurance or giving yourself a $25k raise, then you're a crap boss and deserve to lose whatever employees leave for a company that actually appreciates their skills. Your business seemingly operates on pretty thin margins, so that doesn't seem like a good idea if you rely heavily on intellectual capital. But please, try and extrapolate for me how this will happen to larger companies with more low-skilled employees who get crap healthcare(if any at all) to begin with.

October 2, 2013 at 8:52 a.m.
tribal said...

Fairmon, I have great, cheap healthcare and my payments aren't changing a cent... because it's actually up to a reasonable standard of a health insurance plan. If your premiums are going up, it's probably because you had a crap health plan and your insurance provider is passing the overhead on to you. Here's the great part about obamacare: you can change your plan now, and you will probably find one much cheaper - or you can wait, and your costs will likely go down as competition makes your insurance company feel the hurt as others eat the pie out from under it.

Also, ~30+ million folks will be getting insured who previously could not.

October 2, 2013 at 8:18 a.m.
tribal said...

AndrewLohr, the problem that defeats all of those benefits is that you as the layperson have absolutely no say whatsoever in what private enterprise does. You can't offset that by introducing competition everywhere without it having negative effects in at least some places, unless you like the idea of living in a world like Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson).

conservative, you're just upset that the tens of millions of people whom you blame for your own personal misfortunes have healthcare now.

October 2, 2013 at 8:05 a.m.
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