published Sunday, April 10th, 2011

Foster: A task reporters dread


by J. Todd Foster

Hands down, a journalist’s worst duty is reaching out to the relatives of accident and murder victims.

None of us wants to do it. But humanizing crime victims amid a society that has grown desensitized over violence is our job — one that thankfully we’re not asked to do often.

In the wake of Chattanooga Police Sgt. Tim Chapin’s shooting death eight days ago, allegedly by a robbery suspect, this newspaper has come under fire itself for making one phone call to Chapin’s home.

Police and courts reporter Todd South didn’t relish making that call. He was respectful and sensitive and was treated with grace by a woman he believes to be Chapin’s widow, who politely declined to be interviewed. Todd has made several of these calls in his role as a journalist and does it with compassion.

For that one phone call, he has been inundated with hate mail from police officers, one of whom anonymously emailed with the subject line “Insensitive Prick.” It stated, “You should be ashamed, but apparently you don’t have the ability.”

Wrote another anonymous police officer: “What a sorry, inconsiderate, heartless individual you are. You should be fired!”

These calls are standard operating procedure in our business and occur regardless of the victim’s professional or socioeconomic standing.

The criticism didn’t stop with Todd. Even our editorial cartoonist, Clay Bennett, was trashed after a tribute that featured Chapin’s badge with the words “Chattanooga Police Department” replaced with “SERVICE DUTY BRAVERY.”

Clay’s only sin was to draw the exact badge, which for some inexplicable reason has the words “CORPORATION SEAL” on it. Outraged police officers made the point that Chapin died serving and protecting the community, not a corporation.

Unfortunately, these police officers apparently have never looked closely at their own badges.

Chapin’s death indeed is a community tragedy. Our news coverage of the events from that awful April 2 have reflected that, as well as honored Chapin and every other police officer.

The overreaction by local police to this newspaper might not even be rooted in Chapin’s death but in this newspaper’s dogged requests for records deemed public by the Tennessee Open Records Act.

Those records include incident and arrest reports, internal affairs reports and other documents that are open to citizens. Without those records, there’s no way we can fully inform you.

Department officials had rather not deal with us except when they want us to run surveillance photos to help them identify suspects.

The truth is, the police department needs this newspaper as a community conduit. Crime fighting and prevention are not possible one taxpayer at a time. We reach hundreds of thousands of readers through our printed product and online site, timesfreepress.com. To do our jobs effectively, we need police departments and local governments to be transparent and accountable.

Our jobs also include making painful telephone calls to the survivors of murder victims.

Kelly McBride, senior faculty for ethics at The Poynter Institute, a journalism training institute in St. Petersburg, Fla., knows a little bit about murdered police officers: Her city has had three in the past few months.

McBride said during a telephone interview Thursday that St. Petersburg police opened up to the local newspapers and embraced how those reporters humanized the fallen officers.

“There is a generic assumption that most people make when you say ‘police officer,’” McBride said. “They assume former military. They assume some sort of tough guy. And the reality is that cops are as different from one another as any other profession.

“Until you can figure out a way to humanize them, the public never really realizes what they’ve lost. So it’s really out of respect to reach out to the people who loved this person the most so that they can tell his story. We tend to develop emotional understanding when we know some human details about someone’s life. You know, he coached soccer, or loved to garden or was a marathon runner. Not everybody appreciates cops in the first place. By telling his story and telling the public details about who he was, you draw more people into his story.”

Amid widespread desensitization to crime, our job is to break through to our readers’ emotional sides — not just when a police officer is killed but when anyone is — to make them care about matters of community concern. Crime, unfortunately, is one of those issues.

I don’t believe a police officer’s life is worth any more than anyone else’s. It’s always a tragedy when life is stolen from an innocent.

It’s our job to put a face on such tragedies, however. And that makes us misunderstood. Some think we’re heartless and insensitive and will do anything to sell a newspaper.

Reporters don’t think about newspaper sales. They think about telling the kinds of stories that will benefit communities or right wrongs.

For the record, reporter Todd South has never been a police officer who served and protected his community.

But he was a five-year, combat Marine who was among the first wave on the ground in Iraq. And he didn’t deserve this.

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rosebud said...

As usual, Mr. Foster misses the point. He chooses to focus on the wrongheaded reactions by some angry cops, in an attempt to make his point that cops are angry and illiterate, while TFP staffers are kind and considerate. And Mr. Foster (not surprisingly) ignores some of the questions that have been posed to his paper in the aftermath of the Chapin tragedy. So, I'll give you another chance Mr. Foster, to write the column that should have been written.

  1. What time did your reporter call the widow that day? What information was he hoping to obtain? What context would she be able to provide, mere hours, or minutes after her husband was shot dead?

  2. What time did you news organization reveal Sgt. Chapin's identity? Had his family been notified? Had his colleagues on the police force been notified? Had his name been revealed in an official news release?

  3. Does the TFP routinely reveal the identity of a fatal shooting victim before it is released by a law enforcement agency? Or did the TFP make a special exception in this case? If so, why?

Rather than try to spin the issue with flowery prose about this difficult assignment for your journalists, your reporter's admirable military record and praise from the Poynter Institute, how about answering the actual questions and addressing the real complaints from your readers? The ones that are left, anyway.

April 10, 2011 at 7:44 a.m.
signal said...

Mr Foster, if you feel that contacting the widow of a police officer that was murdered mere hours before for a "statement" is the right thing to do, or is ethical or anything else, then I must say I feel sorry for you.

Also, divulging the name of said officer before given the ok by the authorities, once again, there is no reason for that.

To say that a reporter doesn't care about selling newspapers, give me a freaking break.

I must say the changes that have occurred since you took the helm of the TFP have NOT been positive in my opinion. It must suck to be a part of a dying industry.

And for the record, no I am not a police officer.

April 10, 2011 at 8:14 a.m.
augie47 said...

Despite Mr. Foster’s eloquent words, I would have to agree with Rosebud on this issue. If the paper, as stated, makes “dogged requests for records”, they should be able to produce the records Rosebud mentions. If the allegations are false, then a published time line should reveal the facts. The Paper shares the same responsibility as the CPD in providing “Who-What-When-Where and Why”

April 10, 2011 at 9:34 a.m.
tcrashfx said...

What a sanctimonious load of manure.

I think you can safely assume after this unprofessional editorial, replete with falsehoods, intentional misdirection and obviously failed attempts at trying to change the subject; your relationship with local cops (and local advertisers) is at an end.

Adding to another commentator's questions, if the offending posts by "police officers' were anonymous, how did the TFP divine they were police officers? No second, confirming source there?

Actually, what the TFP staff and reporters dread is being confronted with a monstrous screw up and having to defend it.

April 10, 2011 at 11:15 a.m.
biofish said...

Are you serious Mr Foster?.. Of course it is the reporter's job to sell the "newspaper"! How else are they paid? If their paper breaks the story first, gets better coverage or more information they will sell more ad space.

in fact, THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE DOING RIGHT NOW. You realized there was a stupid mistake made, but decided to make it so controversial by responding defensively instead of just apologizing... thus generating MORE paper sales. I only say this because I cannot believe someone could be so insensitive to actually think those actions are justified.

I just cancelled my subscription. I will look to the internet for my news now until a FORMAL apology is published. www.Chattanoogan.com and others show respect and will have my business.

April 10, 2011 at 1:41 p.m.
gritsandcheeze said...

I guess i fall right where the comments listed above are. I call total B.S. on the quote that you are not trying to sell more papers. The community does have a right to know. But only after you had a release from the said department as to the facts of the situation. I too feel the insensitivity by Mr. Foster and TFP. A sad situation made worse. As far as your comments that Sgt. Chapin's life was NOT worth more than anyone elses? Again i call B.S. Do you realize what these cops make? His life in this X-readers opinion was worth a hell of a lot more than that idiot who shot him. And your paper has only enhanced this tragedy by doing something so shameless as to call his widow and ask for info. What could you possibly have gained from calling her that you felt you couldn't get from the CPD? Your paper...wait your RAG wouldn't even be used as a liner in my birds cage. You all make me sick. A fallen hero is what he is. As well as the living heros on this police department. I as another above will cancel my subscription to this paper and call for an all out boycott of this RAG. Enjoy and reap your reward Mr. Foster and TFP, you've really done it this time.

April 10, 2011 at 2:26 p.m.
tcrashfx said...

Here is a template the rest of us are using....

Hello, my name is ___, may I speak to the person in charge of marketing or who makes the advertising decisions for your company, please?

I am calling to express my displeasure that you have chosen to advertise with the Chattanooga Times Free Press. The Chattanooga Times Free Press demonstrated monstrous callousness by telephoning the widow of a slain local law enforcement officer, at home, minutes after his murder, "For comment". They also chose to report the name of the heroic officer before all official notifications had been made or the hero's name was released by the CPD.

The Chattanooga Times Free Press is unapologetic for their errors and even attacked, in print (on Sunday April 10, 2011), local 'officers' who had the audacity to question these heartless actions, claiming it is, "A task reporters dread".

As a result of these misdeeds to the Chattanooga community, I will no longer do any business with anyone who advertises with the Chattanooga Times Free Press. Nor will my family, nor will my friends, nor will anyone I come into contact with and can convince to do so.

The Chattanooga Times Free Press Marketing person is Leslie Kahana and can be reached at 423-757-6514 to immediately cancel your advertising with the Chattanooga Times Free Press.

<p>Chattanoogan.com (advertise@chattanoogan.com), News Channel 9 or Nooga.com (among many others) have great circulation, with much cheaper advertising rates, that reach more people each day and all these entities respect law enforcement.

Thank you for your continued support of local law enforcement and their families.

Read it verbatim (Leave a message if you get the 'phone tree' thing.)

Do not curse them. Do not threaten them. Do not identify yourself as a law enforcement officer. Do not use your work phone or do it on work time. Be the utmost professional, as opposed to anyone at the TFP, with these advertisers, as they probably are not aware of this.

April 10, 2011 at 3:32 p.m.
Salsa said...

As usual, the media will NEVER EVER admit that they made a mistake.

April 10, 2011 at 3:41 p.m.

When the victim has been just an average citizen without all the wrappings, the police dept. has been known to release the name to media outlets, especially those it liked, before the families were notified. How is this any different?

I think if Sgt. Chapin could somehow relay the message to all of you he'd be ashamed of the vicious vindictiveness taking place in this town in his name, his memory and in his honor. Then there was a man of the cloth who actually stood up and basically advocated violence in his memory. What does that really say about us as a civilized people when the shoe is on the other foot?

The most disonorable and disrespectufl thing any of you could do in this man's memory, name and honor is to continue to act out as viciously and vindictive as you presently are doing. Does his widow really know all that is going on in her husband memory? I just don't think she would approve.

Quote: Strong"These calls are standard operating procedure in our business and occur regardless of the victim’s professional or socioeconomic standing."Strong

That's been the understanding standing procedure as far back as most anyone can remember.

They don't want you to "report the news without fear or favor." They want you to report the news only as they dictate how it is to be reported when it pertains to police matters. They apparently want a Taliban dictatorship brand of media reportings. "Say what we want you to say or else!"

Quote: Strong"But he was a five-year, combat Marine who was among the first wave on the ground in Iraq. And he didn’t deserve this."Strong

April 10, 2011 at 4:22 p.m.

Quote: Strong"For the record, reporter Todd South has never been a police officer who served and protected his community "But he was a five-year, combat Marine who was among the first wave on the ground in Iraq. And he didn’t deserve this."Strong

You're right, Mr. Foster, Mr. South does NOT deserve the bashing he is getting. Neither does Times Free Press in general.

Quote: Strong"I don’t believe a police officer’s life is worth any more than anyone else’s. It’s always a tragedy when life is stolen from an innocent."Strong

Someone has the audacity to say what needs to be said. They're all going to damn you to hell for this one, Mr. Foster

Finally and just for the record: Who's behaving like gangbangers now?

April 10, 2011 at 4:42 p.m.
anaicca said...

Mr. Foster, I am not a police officer, but let me say I frequently read the TFP, daily, and see you state TFP that "names are not being released pending notification of the family." Your publication of this statement lends to the opinion that you respect this policy yet your call to the new widow's home does not reflect those values. Does the notification of the direct family members not apply to you, as a paper, too? If my spouse were murdered, regardless of whether it was in the line of duty or as a civilian, I would not want a phone call from ANY newspaper asking questions, especially prior to my notification. I would first think it was some sick joke, then panic, especially if this were true, b/c I could not reach my loved one. Then my brain would create a series of horrific possibilities in which my spouse was killed. Second are you aware that large organizations that employ people in jobs that involve a high risk, loss of life, type job, have their own avenue of notifying dependents in a line of duty death? This covers CPD and even our military. The military uses trained notification staff, that does it in person, not over the telephone. In the CPD's side, a system is set in place where a person, chosen by the person that has died in a on duty death, notifies his or her spouse. This is done to maintain respect, privacy, & give the spouse the support they need when such a travesty occurs. Furthermore this is done in person ideally, and not over the telephone. I cannot say that I know every death on duty has had notification this way, but this is the SYSTEM THAT IS IN PLACE. We as citizens are expected to follow the respect of our fellow citizens, so why are you, as a newspaper, held to a different standard? And don't take another PD's quote out of context to this situation and attempt to justify the situation. As a paper you have the right to freedom of the press, yes, but not when it violates the personal liberties of individuals. We have rights too, protected even by quotations by your own paper, "pending notification of immediate family members." Do we need "humanization" of police officers? Yes, as a society we do, but timing is everything. Making a phone call for an interview the day after would have been much more appropriate. You still wrote articles and still sold papers due to this incident. I suggest as a company you review your policies in regards to making contact in these delicate situations. Do something and make a bad situation better, change your stance on what happened, or admit that at least the family should have their own notification, prior to any investigative action proceeds.

Waiting for the "right" thing to be done, Anaicca Palmer

April 10, 2011 at 5:03 p.m.
tcrashfx said...

Thank you, Anaicca.

April 10, 2011 at 6:14 p.m.
allGODSchildren said...

All of you here advocating division and possibly violence should be ashamed of yourselves. Especially you, tcrashfx. I know you're a law enforcement member. You disgrace the memory of this fallen officer with your hateful rhetoric and by encouraging others to follow you. That's sissyfied.

All of you know, or should know, it only takes one fruitcake like the Arizona nut to go on some vengeful spree on behalf of some other more powerful fruitcakes, parading as intellecutals, behind scenes sounding that march to violence louder and louder.

There were many invisible powerful fingers on the trigger of that gun that Arizona fool used that assassinated nine people and severely wounded a U.S. congresswoman.

tcrash, the ringleader_drum major, you of all people should know the likely outcome. I honestly don't think you have Sgt. Chapin's tragic death and his family in mind. I think what you're doing is selfish. You and others in law enforcement have had it in for times free press and a few other media outlets for quite sometime now.

You all should be ashamed for allowing yourselves to be a part of all this vicious hatefulness. Which does nothing to honor the memory of this officer, and is most disrespectful to his surviving family members.

Any members of LE thought to be involved should be suspended, investigated and possibly terminated. Chattanooga doesn't deserve this division, and those found to be involved,directly or even indirectly, don't deserve the privilege and honor of serving and protecting Chattanoogans.

April 10, 2011 at 7:10 p.m.
biofish said...

allGODSchildren and World_N_TopsyTurvy

I do not know what either of you guys are smoking to come up with these wild illogical arguments which either have nothing to do with the subject or are just plainly retarded... but if you would let me smoke some too as I would love to be clueless for a few hours as well.

April 10, 2011 at 9:33 p.m.
sangaree said...

Seems like the only ones "smoking" something here are the ones exploiting the tragic death of a police officer because they have it in for a newspaper. Their pimping this tragedy and using it as a platform for all it's worth. They're not honoring this officer in life or death in any shape or form. They're certainly not honoring and respecting his surviving relatives with their despicable behavior.

People who go out of their way to dig holes for others should take heed they don't fall into those holes themselves.

April 11, 2011 at 9:23 a.m.
joecrash1 said...

The only thing Foster dreads is reporting to his masters a drooping circulation line on the graph. I support the drive to boycott ANY advertiser of the TPF and respectfully suggest ANY advertiser of the TFP cancel your account today. Call these advertisers and urge them to drop their accounts with TFP TODAY!!!!!! The last few of you subscribing to the TFP should cancel your subscription TODAY!!!

April 11, 2011 at 9:46 a.m.
allGODSchildren said...

joecrash1, thankfully not everyone agrees with you and your gang. In fact, most don't agree and are sicken by you and these BOYCOTTING fanatics attitudes. You all have taken the tragic death of Sgt. Chapin and turned it into a sideshow at one of those cheap traveling circus. May God have mercy on you all!

Semper Fi, Marine Todd South. You did nothing wrong. We've known members of CPD and other media outlets to the same when the person was considered just an average and everday citizen. Then God forbid if the person or persons were considered "trash" or a "thug". Then they became fair game for all sorts of wisecracks and crude jokes by the aforementioned.

Stand Proud, Marine!!

April 11, 2011 at 2:49 p.m.
sangaree said...

And to think, with just a twist of fate, a change of events, the main ones now critical of Mr. Foster and Mr. South would be defending them if they'd reported the same way and the victim was an average everyday citizen. It always amaze me how our priorities, our sense of right and wrong change depending on who's who.

April 11, 2011 at 7:29 p.m.
Leaf said...

Obviously the newspaper and the police have an ongoing adversarial relationship. Good! I would expect no less. Who polices the police, after all, if not the newspaper? If they were buddies I'd be nervous.

April 12, 2011 at 1:35 p.m.
tcrashfx said...

And who 'polices' the Times Free Press, Leaf? Is there a 'Civilian Review Board' for local reporters and editors?

Why, yes, there is! It is 'Civilians' phoning/emailing the folks that pay their salary! They really do work for us, right? Amazing! How is that for a "review?"

If you happen to support unadulterated, false and sanctimonious callousness by your local 'paper'; if you happen to support "If it Bleeds, It Leads" or "Get it First, Even If It Is Wrong", or "Sell Ads, No Matter If It Is Immoral" and "Ignore Compassion" in the false interest of 'humanization' reporting, send a valid check to the Times Free Press to show your support! (They take Visa, too, I think!)

If you don't value that type of so-called 'reporting', express it, with your wallet, or pocketbook, to the people that keep the TFP barely afloat. Or cancel your subscription to the Times Free Press. (At least you won't be getting yellow sacks of pulp in your driveway every Thursday!)

I was nervous (A little), until I, and many, many others, started canceling subscriptions and phoning/emailing their advertisers, who evidently, can, indeed, police the Times Free Press.

I feel better now. All is well. Move along.

Policing is a good thing, Leaf. Really. Too bad the Times Free Press, Mr. Foster and Mr. South (Thank you for your service) are incapable of doing it on their own. If they refuse to do so, as they have done so far, the rest of us will force them to do so. We pay their salary, after all.

The "Right 2 Know" seems to end at 400 East 11th St., Chattanooga, TN 37403

Thank you for your support, Leaf.

April 12, 2011 at 7:09 p.m.
tcrashfx said...

Thanks for your support, allGODSchildren. Remember, don't dial 756-6900, when you need immediate help (Unless you are really, really, really wanting to cancel an ad!).

'911' still works pretty well.

We'll be there for you, and yours, with a cheerful willingness, despite your admitted opinion that you wish to deprive us (LE) from the very Constitutional rights (Freedom of speech) we put our lives, and health, and our family's well being, on the line for, every day, 24/7, to ensure that you, and yours, are constantly under the protections of the Constitution.

The same Constitutional protections that you just demanded be denied us (LE).

Again, thanks for your support.

April 12, 2011 at 7:40 p.m.
Leaf said...

I guess since there is no business, political or police corruption in Tennessee we don't need reporters then. Well, that's a load off my mind.

April 13, 2011 at 8:48 a.m.
clandahlina said...

Mr. Foster, if these were anonymous letters, as you state, then how do you know that they were from police officers? Seems a bit contradictory to me because the very definition of anonmymous is that there is no identifying information.

That being said, I understand that you have a job to do, but sensitivity goes a long way. Do you really need to ask a widow how she feels about her husband's death? I think we can all infer that she was devastated without having to interview her about it.

April 13, 2011 at 2:37 p.m.
Legend said...

@clandahlina said...

Mr. Foster, if these were anonymous letters, as you state, then how do you know that they were from police officers? Seems a bit contradictory to me because the very definition of anonmymous is that there is no identifying information. That being said, I understand that you have a job to do, but sensitivity goes a long way

  1. Maybe those "anonymous" cops identified themselves as LE. Then again, there's really no such thing as being anonymous on the internet. Not even hiding behind a screen name. Take for instance tcrash. Everyone knows this individual is in LE.

  2. Sensitivity? Where was that "sensitivity shown when the young man was shot over forty times and all those graphic details were released to the media, who ran with it, without consideration for the family? How many shots were fired. How many shots entered the body and where. The fact the cops were so concentrated on firing shots they didn't even realize their own bullets were actually ricocheting, exiting and rehitting the victim. Though not all surprising, it always amazes just how quickly our priorities, sense of compassion and value system change when the situation is personal.

April 14, 2011 at 3:26 p.m.
tcrashfx said...

Legend (An individual who everybody knows it not LE) said, "The fact the cops were so concentrated on firing shots they didn't even realize their own bullets were actually ricocheting, exiting and rehitting the victim."

Legend's misdirected logic in the instant case is about as intelligent as her understanding of physics and bodies in motion in the latter case she mentioned. Just as you obviously fail to understand that bullets can't turn around in midair and go in opposite directions, on their own (As you allege) Legend can't understand, nor appreciably defend, the NewsFree Press's unapologetic stance on this issue.

Signed (So there is no claim of anonymity),

Mark Kimsey

How you gonna sign your next post, Legend? Had I left a message, or sent an unanswered email, to the TFP, that was how it was signed.

April 14, 2011 at 8:46 p.m.
Legend said...

tcrashfx said...

Legend (An individual who everybody knows it not LE) said, "The fact the cops were so concentrated on firing shots they didn't even realize their own bullets were actually ricocheting, exiting and rehitting the victim."

Legend's misdirected logic in the instant case is about as intelligent as her understanding of physics and bodies in motion in the latter case she mentioned. Just as you obviously fail to understand that bullets can't turn around in midair and go in opposite directions, on their own (As you allege) Legend can't understand, nor appreciably defend, the NewsFree Press's unapologetic stance on this issue.

Signed (So there is no claim of anonymity),

Mark Kimsey How you gonna sign your next post, Legend? Had I left a message, or sent an unanswered email, to the TFP, that was how it was signed


You're right, t/Mark whatEVAH. Bullets don't turn around in mid-air, but they can bounce around and back after hitting a solid surface.

You're the only one who should apologizing here. Both to Mr. South and Mr. Foster. Then to the entire company and employees of Chattanooga Times Free Press. Finally, to round it all up and while you're at it apologize to all your followers you tried to organize and stir up into a frenzy.

I'll sign this WITH NUTHIN' BUT LUV 4 U BABY! No hate, just love! OH! And PEACE!

April 15, 2011 at 4:02 p.m.
tcrashfx said...

"they can bounce around and back after hitting a solid surface."

Brilliant, Legend! You get the next Anti-Tesla Award for explaining that brand of new physics to us! What is next from you? Remote viewing?

Me? Apologize for offering a righteously, off-duty and lawfully expressed opinion? I can't speak for the hundreds of others who happen to share my subscription-canceling view on the actions and words of the TFP, but I am allowed to say what I mean and I mean what I say. (A concept obviously foreign to you.)

Don't hold your breath, but you can always file a complaint, right? And you can continue to make vain attempts to silence me? Feel free. That is your right, as defended by others who put their life, health and safety on the line, everyday (24/7) to ensure you still have that right (That you obviously believe should not extend to certain others of society you happen to disagree with!)

Followers? I am just a simple, non-anonymous street cop, Legend. The TFP and it's sycophants, like you, are scared of little old me?

But, I get your point on wanting to remain 'anonymous'. If I was arguing your point, from your uninformed, oft expressed, and still anonymous, point of view, I wouldn't want my real name attached, either.

Todd South proudly served our country as a member of the Armed Services. I thank him for his service, again.

Lee Harvey Oswald, Timothy McVey, and Nidal Malik Hasan all served in the military and that fact does not excuse their subsequent actions, words or thoughts.

If it all the same to you, Legend, I'll tend to continue to honor the millions upon millions of US veterans who have served me (My family and all our predecessors and descendants), personally, by their actions, lives, words, thoughts and deeds.

I'll continue to ignore the minuscule, cowardly and infinitesimally few of that grand and courageous number of millions of heroes, and vociferously attack the few that dishonored their Brethren (and Sisteren) by actions, deeds or 'words'..... after their service to us all.

It is my "right", after all.

April 16, 2011 at 2:16 p.m.
chioK_V said...

@Legend, did you pee in a cop's corn flakes or something?

April 16, 2011 at 3:16 p.m.
tcrashfx said...

LOL> chioK_V!

Legend pissed on someone and tried to tell them it was raining. It wasn't my cornflakes! The Legendary pissed-on person disagreed and Legend is currently in the process of posting a comment explaining how piss and rain are really the same thing, scientifically. So she is kinda busy, right now, so be patient for her response.

Legend seemingly cannot distinguish between the two liquids, as evidenced by pretty much each post she has submitted here.

Me? I got an umbrella, and a BS shovel, to protect me from the likes of Legend and what they are throwin'.

Thank you for your support, chioK_V.

April 16, 2011 at 3:58 p.m.
biofish said...

Legend, Your online comments make me glad I only know you online.

April 16, 2011 at 5:10 p.m.
sangaree said...

Last time I checked tcrash was vehemently speaking out against Todd South and encouraging others to follow his lead. Now he's praising Mr.South's service as a Marine? Sounds like those politicians who were against something before they were for it. What brought about the sudden change?

tcrash, you're behaving like deer caught in the headlights.

Hey, t.c., in your own words you implied you're a cop 24/7. That means you have no OWN time. You represent the professional 24/7. Your behavior on or off the clock does have a direct impact.

I was under the impression Legend was a he, tcrash. You keep referring to Legend as a she? What's with that one? You two know one another on a personal level or something?

April 16, 2011 at 7:17 p.m.
biofish said...

Sangaree.. Where do you work? We need to know so we can persecute your constitutional rights if need be.

April 16, 2011 at 7:59 p.m.
tcrashfx said...

sangaree... Next time, actually read the words I wrote and try to comprehend them, in context. I'll put my own words in my own mouth, thank you very much.

But, I don't expect you to understand simple logic, or my words, as evidenced by your latest post. They start paying me 24/7 and I'll cease exercising my right to express my thoughts while 'off duty'. I know it pains you for me to be free to disagree with you on a public forum, but that is how it is.

Not sure if Legend is a he or a she, black or white. Nor does it really matter. I am simply arguing a point, un-anonymously, so I fail to see your point.

I can see that since you are unable to argue the premise I proffered; you revert to ad hominem attacks. Doesn't speak well for your opinion, does it?

April 16, 2011 at 8 p.m.
DeronChapin said...

Dear Mr. Foster, it is unfortunate that your reporter, Mr. South, received rude and hateful responses in his attempt to "humanize" our fallen hero. You certainly expect those responses or it wouldn't be such a dreaded task. As far as I'm concerned, your editorial last Sunday amounted to whining about those responses. Then you finished it with a comment about Mr. South being a combat marine. So what? Aren't all marines who graduate basic training combat marines? When I graduated basic, I was informed that I was infantry certified. Does that afford me special rights to be inappropriate? Mr. South made a bad call. Was it authorized or encouraged by you? There is most certainly a stereotype that defines your job to the public and it's one that you will never shake. An executive editor will do anything to sell a newspaper. That's just the way it is, live with it and spare us your belly aching. Most people will curse a telemarketer for interrupting dinner. You thought it necessary to make a call to the bereaved widow the day of her worst nightmare? I believe our loved one, our hero, was humanized appropriately without your assistance and I honestly don't think that that's what you were trying to do. I believe that you were trying capitalize on someone's grief to make money. Sincerely, Deron Chapin.

April 16, 2011 at 11:26 p.m.
illusionist777 said...

Couldn't agree more with Deron. Mr. Foster simply doesn't get it

April 20, 2011 at 11:35 a.m.
tcrashfx said...

Am I the only one that got their entire personnel file pulled by Beth Burger (Under the FOIA) as a direct result of their lawful, freely expressed and off-duty comments on here?

Thanks, Beth and the NewsFree Press for donating $76.50.

I kinda feel special, now.

Thank you for your support.

May 5, 2011 at 8:07 p.m.
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