published Sunday, January 1st, 2012

2011 Cartoons of the Year

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2011 Cartoons of the Year
about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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dude_abides said...

I hope the Mayans were wrong.

January 1, 2012 at 12:29 a.m.
memphisexile said...

Regardless of your political point of view, I think we can all agree that Clay has provided us with countless moments of entertainment, and if nothing else has sparked our imaginations, and hopefully tickled our funny bones. Happy new year Clay, and Happy new year to all the TFP commenters regardless of their political persuasion.

January 1, 2012 at 12:57 a.m.
blackwater48 said...

THANKS FOR THE REAR VIEW MIRROR

Good times. It's fun looking back at some of the cartoons from the past year and also the posts! Yikes!

I hope you whining 'Debbie Downers' review your 'work' from the past 12 months and are shamed by your critical and redundant laments aimed at our humble cartoonist.

In 2012, why don't you wind baggers try to generate some creativity and explain WHY your fact backed and hyperbole free point of view is correct while Clay's graphically illustrated editorial is wrong.

Can't wait for you supply-siders to unveil past success stories of trickled down economics! How it's balanced the federal budget, reduced unemployment, and cultivated prosperity for all!

Oh, and be sure to explain how the republican presidential nominee will be elected running on an economic plan based on 'Bush O' Nomics.' Or will be elected by advocating the full scale invasion of Iran. Or will be elected by promising to end Wall Street regulation. Or will be elected by promising to reduce the corporate tax rate and toss yet another well earned tax break to billionaires.

Remember, stick to fact based arguments to support your position and feel free to cite historical precedent. That way, people who disagree with you will have something to debate.

Regardless, I hope 2012 is great year for America and a prosperous one for each and every one of us! Remember:

Don't worry if the mule is blind; just load up the wagon!

January 1, 2012 at 1:29 a.m.
shifarobe said...

Shut up Blackwater. Here're my predictions for '12. Obama will lose. He'll lose NC, VA, OH, FL, IN, PA, WI, NJ, Min, MI all the southern states, all the southwestern states, all the Western states and a couple of New England States. He'll win Hawaii, California, Oregon, New York, Mass., RI, VT, CT, IL. Take that to the bank. He's Jimmy Carter with bigger ears and a much lower IQ. All you dummies who voted for him and thought he was something great are looking like garbage right now. And, Blackwater, there's nothing worse than a retired, lefty leach who thinks he's entitled to what others have.

January 1, 2012 at 1:54 a.m.
John_Proctor said...

THANKS for the memories, Clay.

January 1, 2012 at 2:16 a.m.
alprova said...

shifarobe wrote: "Shut up Blackwater."

Woah. What gives you any right to tell anyone to shut-up? Who the heck are you anyway?

"Here're my predictions for '12. Obama will lose. He'll lose NC, VA, OH, FL, IN, PA, WI, NJ, Min, MI all the southern states, all the southwestern states, all the Western states and a couple of New England States. He'll win Hawaii, California, Oregon, New York, Mass., RI, VT, CT, IL."

Are you under some impression that you have this whole thing figured out? The experts can't predict the future of this next election. A lot can and will happen between now and November.

"Take that to the bank."

No thanks. I'll defer to the wisdom of the people of this nation. You know, those whom you don't begin to speak for.

"He's Jimmy Carter with bigger ears and a much lower IQ."

On the contrary. I'm quite sure the man has more I.Q. in his pinky finger than you have rocks rolling around in your cranial cavity.

"All you dummies who voted for him and thought he was something great are looking like garbage right now."

That is a personal opinion and nothing more. I still happen to believe in the man and his devotion to saving this nation from those who damn near plundered it to death.

"And, Blackwater, there's nothing worse than a retired, lefty leach who thinks he's entitled to what others have."

Nobody that I am aware of, left leaning or not, has expressed any desire whatsoever in this forum, that they are entitled to a penny that belongs to someone else.

So take that complaint and shove it where the sun doesn't shine, because you're preaching to the choir.

January 1, 2012 at 6:51 a.m.
alprova said...

Happy New Year folks.

January 1, 2012 at 6:53 a.m.
Momus said...

Happy New Years! Great work Clay, my favorite was the TN State Park/ Guns cartoon. Classic.

January 1, 2012 at 8:04 a.m.
sandyonsignal said...

Happy New Year, everyone. Love all of these cartoons, it is hard to pick a favorite. The football players: #99 is all bruised and beaten while #1 is filing his nails, is a great analogy.

Looking forward to the cartoons in 2012. I was hoping Newt would be the Republican nominee, but now with Santorum surging this is even better. Thanks for the good laughs, GOP and for providing Clay with great material.

January 1, 2012 at 8:19 a.m.
potcat said...

My favorite is "oops,my bad",the wanted poster looks more like Bernie Madoff than the tased voter Rights Advocate.

The Cop should be arrested and charged with assault.

January 1, 2012 at 8:42 a.m.
GMills said...

Shifarobe, How do you expect people to read your comments when you begin with an insult? Do you think that makes you a big person? Actually, it makes you sound like an 10 year old child.

January 1, 2012 at 8:46 a.m.
potcat said...

I am rethinking my favorite, "Team USA" with the beat up 99% sitting next to the pussy 1% footballers is pretty darn good Clay.

January 1, 2012 at 8:50 a.m.

While I admit the cartoons are fun and do really bring out some heated discussions, I think it may be time to add a little difference to them. I mean how many days in a row can he continue to slam the GOP and praise the Democrats when they are all equally guilty of running this country into the ground.

January 1, 2012 at 9:02 a.m.
MTJohn said...

lovetheusaorleave said...I mean how many days in a row can he continue to slam the GOP and praise the Democrats when they are all equally guilty of running this country into the ground.

I don't recall any of Clay's cartoons that praised the Democrats. And, it's not Clay's fault that the GOP is a grist mill that generates so much fodder for political cartoons.

January 1, 2012 at 9:17 a.m.

MTJohn said,I don't recall any of Clay's cartoons that praised the Democrats.

Well I guess if you can call making one group look terrible is not building up another then that is your choice. But most see it as him making the Dems. look much better than they should. BTW the Democrats have just as many fools as the GOP's just some refuse to admit it.

January 1, 2012 at 9:44 a.m.
MTJohn said...

lovetheusaorleave said...But most see it as him making the Dems. look much better than they should.

If that is the way you interpret Clay's silence regarding the Dems, I'd suggest that you are captive to your own imagination and thus unable to appreciate Clay's imagination for what it is.

lovetheusaorleave said...BTW the Democrats have just as many fools as the GOP's just some refuse to admit it.

I do not disagree with that. However, since the 2010 election, the R fools have been a lot more visible and a lot more vocal than have the D fools. And, if the R fools are going to provide the material, you can't blame Clay for exploiting it. Exploiting public fools is, after all, in the job description of an editorial cartoonist.

January 1, 2012 at 10:02 a.m.
dude_abides said...

I think it's great that Newt Jong Un has shown the ability to cry (about his mother... speaking to a group of mothers). I always thought that he probably had an extraordinary relationship with his mother. I would venture to say that she didn't approve of any of his girlfriends/wives. I think it was only a coincidence that he had just slipped to fourth in Iowa when the waterworks came on. Speaking of the female side of Newt, his latest wife looks like she'd be added danger in a car wreck... everything above her shoulders seems pointed and sharp and rigid, bless her heart.

January 1, 2012 at 10:17 a.m.
dude_abides said...

shifarobe's making predictions about which states Obama will win or lose, regardless of opponent. What a bucket of slopthought. Go sit in the corner.

January 1, 2012 at 10:42 a.m.

To discuss the images, I like 3 down on the left, and 2 down on the right.

January 1, 2012 at 10:58 a.m.
dude_abides said...

shoe_chucker... 4 B would make me change my name, but that's just me!

January 1, 2012 at 11:26 a.m.
OllieH said...

Thanks for the terrific collection of cartoons, Clay. It looked really good in print this morning (the entire perspective section front page). They should give you that much space EVERY Sunday!

Thanks too, for the all the cartoons from 2011 that didn't make the year-end review. Many of my personal favorites didn't make the cut, but I suppose you can't reprint EVERYTHING you've drawn in the past 365 days.

Happy new year to all and here's to a 2012 of contentious election campaigns, juicy scandals, and more GREAT cartoons.

January 1, 2012 at 11:40 a.m.
tipper said...

Most of you guys that don't like Clay Bennett's work say very little about the cartoonists on the righthand side of the op/ed page. Wonder why? Is it because they are not mostly relevant with what's going on in this country right now? Maybe they are not very imaginative. Clay Bennett has your number. Look at all the comments he garners. He's doing his job with flare. He gets people to bite the hook almost every day. Love it.

January 1, 2012 at 1:02 p.m.
carlB said...

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL OF THE BELIEVERS!

January 1, 2012 at 2:21 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

The Wart did this same thing last year. This one looks like he is suggesting that he is the voice of the ows crowd?

What a pompous a$$!

January 1, 2012 at 6:40 p.m.
yaffay said...

Thanks for so many great cartoons, Clay. You have an amazing gift and make superb use of your talents.

January 1, 2012 at 7:41 p.m.
dude_abides said...

BRP... I'm reporting you to the Editor. I'm not sure whether your comment is okay or not, with the new comment policy in place. The Editor will keep our thoughts clean. The Editor will decide what's best for us. The Editor is fair and just. The Editor can help us stay calm and reasonable.

January 1, 2012 at 8:14 p.m.
Lr103 said...

Love Clay Bennett! A genius and one of the most talented individuals @ TFP!! Keep it up, Bennett. Even your haters can touch you!!

January 1, 2012 at 9:32 p.m.
MTJohn said...

BRP - if you dislike Clay's work so much, how is it that you are so familiar with it?

January 1, 2012 at 11:29 p.m.
blackwater48 said...

ANOTHER SWING AND A MISS

TQ, our resident 'gotcha' queen, refuted something I wrote earlier with this snobbish retort: If you had only quoted it properly then it may have had the meaning you desired.

So please enlighten us, dear queen, to the actual quote. And please enlighten us, your highness, to the actual meaning of said quote.

I was writing about how tea baggers worry about how the is sky falling and the end is near. They worry that we're headed for socialism. They worry that if we don't get back to trickle down economics we'll all go over the economic cliff. They worry about the President's birth certificate. They worry about his college transcripts. They worry about the national debt. They worry about affordable health care and an endless number of other issues - both real and imagined - in an endless stream of negativity.

In the past, whenever I encountered someone who was rattling off a litany of negative 'what if' scenarios, I would be reminded of what Coach John Madden would say before a game to his players who might be worried about the weather or worried about the other team or worried about playing well or worried about losing or worried about a thousand other things that might go wrong in a football game:

Don't worry about the horse being blind, just load the wagon.

I almost remembered it verbatim. Here's what I wrote earlier:

Don't worry if the mule is blind; just load up the wagon!

First of all, if I were quoting Madden I would have gotten the quote exactly and cited the source. Second of all, I don't see where I missed the point. The two statements are distinct but I don't see a difference.

Could you have been thinking of another quotation? Could you have cited a different quote and a different definition? Wow - too bad for you. You could have shown me up! You could have ripped me a new for one for missing a point or muddling up a meaning. But not you. Sitting safely in the shadows. Your vacuous intellect barely functioning as a fox 'news' echo chamber anymore.

To quote the vernacular, If you got something to say, say it.

January 2, 2012 at 1:46 a.m.
cactus said...

TFP, what percentage of Mr. Bennett's salary is paid by the democratic party?

January 2, 2012 at 5:47 a.m.

dude_abides said...

BRP... I'm reporting you to the Editor. I'm not sure whether your comment is okay or not, with the new comment policy in place. The Editor will keep our thoughts clean. The Editor will decide what's best for us. The Editor is fair and just. The Editor can help us stay calm and reasonable.

??? Can you not think for yourself??? Would you like some cheese to go along with your whine?

January 2, 2012 at 8:05 a.m.
dude_abides said...

loveorleave... I'm not exactly comfortable with your attack on me, so I will be reporting your post as well. I'm just thankful that the Editor is available to sift out the riff raff so that we can have pleasant, agreeable discussions. I think opposing viewpoints have their place, and that place is somewhere else. BTW, you misspelled wine. How embarrassing! Here's a website you might benefit from: www.cluesrus.com>

onetinsoldier said...

I sure hope Clay has something to say about the FTP thought police. Will Clay bite the hand???? Clay, you enjoy unfettered speech and get paid for it. It might behoove you to support our right to speak. Some woman in charge doesn't like what some people say. I don't think much of what several of you say but I defend your right to be an idiot and spew it from the steeple. I don't defend this womans right to chop down your steeple.

January 2, 2012 at 10:45 a.m.
acerigger said...

blackwater48,, I know it's hard to refrain sometimes but,DFTT! LOL & HAPPY NEW YEAR!

January 2, 2012 at 12:15 p.m.
MTJohn said...

onetinsoldier said...

I sure hope Clay has something to say about the FTP thought police.

The "thought police" can only police thought if participants actually think before posting. However, it is readily apparent that several folks - especially those prone to complain about the new editorial policy - are not guilty of thinking.

January 2, 2012 at 12:28 p.m.
chet123 said...

Clay failed to produce a cartoon depicting the republican party as theives....theives stealing another election as they did in 2000 and 2004 HA HA HA....

Beginning of year 2000(surpus)...the end of year 2008 (massive deficits)...Hmmmmmm what party was in the White House...and had the congress and senate 6 out of 8 years during that downward plunge Hmmmmmmmm

THE PARTY THAT HAS ALL THE MOUTH...LOVE TO THROW ROCK FROM A GLASS HOUSE....THE PARTY THAT SEE NO EVIL! HEAR NO EVIL! SAY NO EVIL!

ATLEAST NOT UNLESS THE DEMOCRATS IS AT FAULT...HA HA HA HA

January 2, 2012 at 1 p.m.
chet123 said...

CACTUS....WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE REPUBLICAN OUTSIDE MONEY IS BANK ROLLED BY THE KOCH BROTHERS Hmmmmmmmmm

AND WHAT PERCENTAGE OF FOX NEWS AND RUSH LIMBAUGH MONEY IS BANK ROLLED BY THE REPUBLICAN PARTY COUPLE WITH THE KOCH BROTHERS Hmmmmmmm THERE YOU GO AGAIN THROWING ROCKS FROM A GLASS HOUSE HA HA HA HA

January 2, 2012 at 1:07 p.m.
chet123 said...

THE ELEVEN COMMANDMENT....THOU SHALL NOT CHUNK ROCKS IF YOU'RE LIVING IN A GREEN HOUSE HA HA HA HA

January 2, 2012 at 1:17 p.m.
ricardo said...

onetinsoldier, what difference does it make to keep pointing out that the editor is a woman? Would a male editor have more sense than to do something so egregious? You did it twice in your 10:45 am post.

January 2, 2012 at 2:09 p.m.
BobMKE said...

chet 123,

The twelfth... oooooppppssss, SORRY. THE TWELFTH COMMANDMENT....THOU SHALL NOT CHUCK ROCKS IF YOU'RE LIVING IN A NUT HOUSE.

January 2, 2012 at 2:20 p.m.

dude_abides said..BTW, you misspelled wine. No I did not misspell anything. You obviously did not get the meaning. It was meant whine, you know another term for
A long, high-pitched complaining cry.

January 2, 2012 at 2:24 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

tipper said... "Most of you guys that don't like Clay Bennett's work say very little about the cartoonists on the righthand side of the op/ed page. Wonder why?"

The right side is not represented here and there is no designated place to comment on it.

TFP insists on showing an ultra-liberal face with its on-line editorial page that is not representative of Chattanooga. This makes Bennett, the Wart on the top of the on-line opinion page, a very ripe target. I only ask for balance. If the right was represented there would be nothing to complain about.

January 2, 2012 at 2:46 p.m.
John_Proctor said...

Regarding BRP @2:46.

I suspect that there is a legal reason for this regarding the syndication rights to the cartoons on the other editorial page and it has nothing to do with political viewpoints. The TFP probably owns those rights since Clay works for the paper. That is probably not true for the other side of the editorial page.

I'm not a lawyer (but I drove by a Holiday Express this morning) but suspect that is the reason. YOMV and you are welcome to it.

January 2, 2012 at 3:03 p.m.

Find a cartoonist willing to have their images displayed online at this site, rather than just railing at a business decision. Alternatively, offer to fund it yourself.

Or get a petition going, online or not, so that the TFP knows that enough customers care.

January 2, 2012 at 3:06 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Whatever the reason, it is a condition that the TFP engineered.

The decision makers at the TFP that set this stage are either inept or biased.

January 2, 2012 at 3:19 p.m.
chet123 said...

BOBMIKE I AGREE WITH YOU 100% ...SO WHY ARE YOU DOING SO MR NUTTY RIGHT-WING REPUBLICAN LOONY

January 2, 2012 at 3:29 p.m.

John_Proctor said...I'm not a lawyer (but I drove by a Holiday Express this morning)

LOL that was great

January 2, 2012 at 3:35 p.m.
chet123 said...

BIGRIDGEPATRIOT.....I REALLY GET TIRED OF HEARING YOU REPUBLICAN CRYING.....ITS ALRIGHT FOR YOU TO SUPRESS DEMOCRATS VOTERS RIGHT TO VOTE.....IF YOUR RIGHT TO BEAR GUNS WAS THREATEN....YOU WOULD BE HAVING A 5 YEAR OLD CHILD TEMPER TANTRUM...CRYING LIKE A BABY..

I DONT CRY AND COMPLAIN ABOUT RIGHT-WING REPUBLICAN WRITERS...I JUST EXPRESS MY OPINION ON THE ISSUE....

DEEP DOWN INSIDE YOU REPUBLICAN ARE COWARD....MOST BULLY ARE....YOU LOVE TO PICK ON THE MINORTY OR THE POOR AMERICAN BECAUSE THEY DONT HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE POWERFUL IN AMERICA...

I KNOW WHO AND WHAT YOU TRULY ARE HA HA HA

January 2, 2012 at 3:41 p.m.
dude_abides said...

loveorleave... okay, that does it. I'm reporting you to the Editor for lack of forum decorum. Attacking me because of your inability to spell wine won't get you anywear, and trying to confuse the issue with descriptions of long, high pitched cries is just shrilly. Consider yourself on double probation.

January 2, 2012 at 5:22 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Ah, the Frenchman has sobered up! I'm not sure what image you try to project here, but it comes across to me as somewhere between Truman Capote and Sir Elton John. You know, a bit of a ponce? They, too, were probably a little too close to their moms. From my angle BW and Al paste you to the wall regularly, so...

January 2, 2012 at 5:36 p.m.
alprova said...

yu_quoque wrote: "I must say that I truly love your visits to the old web site but of course that’s second to Alprova. He wins only because he has misinterpreted hyperactivity as somehow related to effective and rational debate."

I trounce your hype with facts and nothing more. How you size it up to puff up your out-of-control ego is meaningless.

It's become obvious that you are not used to encountering such well spoken, well researched, "Libtards," all of whom have been around the block a time or two when it comes debating issues in a public forum.

"Your Libtard buds dude_abides, MTJohn, shoe_chucker, onetinsoldier, etc. are just as quickly to respond, to having their chain yanked, as you two."

Thank you for admitting that you are a chain yanker, or in other words a common internet troll. Your posts are therefore never to be taken seriously again.

"As typical Fleabagger types they act on emotion but are too lazy to put any real effort into their return fire."

You're zero for about ten so far. The proof of that is in the archives.

"You two also act on emotion but you’re not as lazy as the others are and you put a fair amount of effort in your responses. This is primarily due to your hyper inflated sense of self-worth and intellectual ability."

Your assessments are of no consequence.

"You graduated from high school as the salutatorians in a two person graduating class and have for evermore held that as evidence of your superiority."

Size it up all you wish. The simple fact is that you lack the ability to hold your own in a political debate and have established yourself unable or unwilling to bow to obvious defeat, even when faced with undeniable proof that you are incorrect.

That places you in good company. Many who haunt this forum have the same problem too. They are easy to spot. Every one of them, just like you, find it necessary to refer to other people by calling them names or by using negative sounding connotations.

"As a result, any affront is unacceptable and must be defeated even to the point of self delusion."

You sure are a sore loser. All you have to do is to step up to the plate and start supplying proof positive that anyone is incorrect whenever a challenge is offered. Failing that, you're offering consists only of baseless and empty words.

January 2, 2012 at 6:33 p.m.
alprova said...

BRP wrote: "The right side is not represented here and there is no designated place to comment on it."

Nor is anyone or any entity obligated to provide you a "designated place." There are many sites and forums out there on the net where others in agreement with you on all things conduct ritual circle jerks day in and day out.

"TFP insists on showing an ultra-liberal face with its on-line editorial page that is not representative of Chattanooga."

Apparently, Mr. Bennett's topics hit home with Chattanoogans quite often, if the volume of traffic in this forum is evidence of a thing. As to your charge that the TFP "insists on showing an ultra-liberal face," again, they are not obligated to provide equal space to anyone for any purpose, especially online.

It may well be that it had been tried and it failed. And again, if seeking out the Republican/Conservative slant to everything is what you are seeking, there are plenty of venues in which you can find it.

"This makes Bennett, the Wart on the top of the on-line opinion page, a very ripe target."

Don't you mean a very ripe obsession?

"I only ask for balance. If the right was represented there would be nothing to complain about."

You have nothing to complain about anyway. The last time I checked, which was two seconds ago, the name of this forum was named, "Clay Bennett's Cartoons."

You have forever targeted Clay Bennett with your obsessive commentary, and never in regard to having any desire to see "the right represented."

Clay Bennett is associated with the Times Free Press. No other cartoonist happens to be on staff. Clearly, given the recognition that Mr. Bennett has been awarded over the years, Mr. Bennett is considered by the TFP to be an asset to it's publication.

You're standing at the base of a very tall oak tree, barking like a dog about nothing that is likely going to change anytime soon. Every newspaper leans one way or the other, politically.

The Times Free Press is ranked #10 among all 1,500 newspapers in circulation print growth. The Times Free Press is ranked #22 among Top 25 Daily Newspapers in print and online growth, of the top 25 dailies that had the biggest gain in audience when taking print and online readership into account.

For a city and a local publication offered in an area the size of Chattanooga, those are rather impressive numbers. The managerial staff knows what people like to see in print, and what people are responding to online.

You're harboring a minority opinion and desire.

January 2, 2012 at 7:29 p.m.
acerigger said...

All of the 'toons are good but "The Race" always gets a laugh outa me. The fact that they all seem to get under the thin skin of the righties is just an added bonus! Thanks Clay!

January 2, 2012 at 7:31 p.m.
alprova said...

tu_quoque wrote: "Al: You did not disappoint."

Whatever that means.

"It appears that you are now in the realm of over-ripeness that BlankWiter resides in."

Whatever than means too.

"BTW ... I though you had place me on your unworthy list and would not respond to me. I guess that was just some more of your mindless blowhard B.S."

Regarding untruths or misrepresentations, I will always offer corrections to them. Regarding opinions that are offered as such, feel free to post away.

I've left you alone for the most part of late, but today, you decided to make it personal and involve me where I was not involved.

January 2, 2012 at 7:39 p.m.
fairmon said...

It is amusing to see how many think Obama will not win again in 2012. Regardless of what many think and even if he is inept and a financial idiot he can't lose unless he shoots himself in the buttocks. 49% pay no taxes, states are rewarded for having the largest percent increase in the number signed up for food stamps, The AHCA that really doesn't begin any negative impact until after the elections, government employees support him and a little scaring of the elderly and others and he is a shoo in since there is no real threat by any of the current opposing candidates. Hold on and plan on five more years of what you are getting and make the best of it and plan on paying for more hope and change. What more could you ask?

January 2, 2012 at 7:41 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

ALPrOva,

You are on the TFP payroll, right? You are absolutely comical when you call anyone obsessed with The Wart's work. It seems pretty clear that your whole life is dedicated to defending his milk toast socialism.

You had better check your facts. I have quite consistently argued for balance on the on-line opinion page. Do you want me to repeat myself every time I post so you don't have to remember past your last soliloquy defending Bennett?

January 2, 2012 at 7:56 p.m.
dude_abides said...

tu_ ... wrong again. I qualified the references by including the word ponce. There were no sexual aspersions cast... save, perhaps, of an Oedipal nature. Hopefully, "paste you to the wall" is not a sexual term of which I have been ignorant. Maybe Art Garfunkel and Simon Cowell would have been better references, in hindsight.

January 2, 2012 at 7:58 p.m.
alprova said...

Harp3339 wrote: "49% pay no taxes"

That is factually incorrect, as written. If you are referring to Federal income taxes, the correct percentage of Americans who find themselves exempt from paying Federally assessed income taxes, the true and correct percentage is 46%.

Have you ever met a person of little means, who is exempt from such taxes? This would be a person who makes less than $16,812. Do you realize that being poor, while offering on the surface an attractive tax shelter, tends to come with such hard-to-bear downsides, such as not knowing where your next meal will come from?

To state that such people do not pay taxes is factually incorrect as well, for another reason. If you look at state and local taxes, the working poor actually pay a higher percentage of their income in these taxes in every state except for Vermont. In Alabama, low-income families pay 11 percent of their income in state and local taxes, while those making more than $229,000 pay just 4 percent.

The working poor also pay other taxes as well, such as sales taxes on necessary items they can afford to purchase, taxes on fuel, if they are fortunate enough to be able to afford an automobile, and everyone, regardless of income, pays Medicare and Social Security taxes that are deducted from their paychecks.

The question you should be asking is why the ultra-wealthy are not made to pay tax rates closer to their historical averages? Another question that needs asking is how we can lift up the incomes of those who are impoverished, in order to allow them opportunity to pay federal income taxes?

I'm sure if they were asked if they would be willing to pay taxes if they made enough money, they would answer "Yes."

"states are rewarded for having the largest percent increase in the number signed up for food stamps"

That's nothing more than a typical Republican slant on the facts.

The Government offers assistance by distributing more funds to states to provide assistance with more in need. States with higher numbers of recipients are provided funds to offset the costs of providing higher than normal outlays in assistance.

"The AHCA that really doesn't begin any negative impact until after the elections, government employees support him and a little scaring of the elderly and others and he is a shoo in since there is no real threat by any of the current opposing candidates."

Is it Obama's fault that there are no worthy opponents? Out of all the Republican politicians who exist, many with clean backgrounds, this is the best that they can come up with to choose from?

"Hold on and plan on five more years of what you are getting and make the best of it and plan on paying for more hope and change. What more could you ask?"

Ah...I don't know...perhaps I would ask for a Republican to step up to the plate who has a little more on their mind other than how they can represent only those with plenty of cash on hand and in reserve.

January 2, 2012 at 8:23 p.m.
alprova said...

BRP wrote: "You are on the TFP payroll, right?"

Wrong.

"You are absolutely comical when you call anyone obsessed with The Wart's work. It seems pretty clear that your whole life is dedicated to defending his milk toast socialism."

I've never charged anyone other than yourself with being "obsessed" with Clay Bennett.

And contrary to your mistaken belief, I spend most of my life earning a living. I am currently on board with liberal politics -- no question about it, however, I spend no more time defending Mr. Bennett than you do in offering unwarranted and personal attacks on him.

"You had better check your facts. I have quite consistently argued for balance on the on-line opinion page. Do you want me to repeat myself every time I post so you don't have to remember past your last soliloquy defending Bennett?"

By all means, post no less than three instances where you posted a calling for "balance on the on-line opinion page." Be sure to include only posts with that exact wording contained in such posts.

January 2, 2012 at 8:38 p.m.
acerigger said...

BigRidgePatriot said...

"ALPrOva,

You are on the TFP payroll, right? You are absolutely comical when you call anyone obsessed with The Wart's work. It seems pretty clear that your whole life is dedicated to defending his milk toast socialism.

You had better check your facts. I have quite consistently argued for balance on the on-line opinion page".

Hint to BRP, posting links to World "Nut" Daily is NOT "arguing for balance"!lol

January 2, 2012 at 8:49 p.m.
alprova said...

BRP, could it be that you haven't actually taken a look at the opinion pages that the TFP posts online?

A quick check of today's opinion page shows a left and a right set of opinions expressed on it, just as it appears in the printed pages of the newspaper.

Scanning through the letters to the editors, I see quite a mixture of letters on it, including those of a non-political nature, mixed with political musings by people from both sides of the aisle.

Again, I insist that you look at the heading of this page. It reads, "Clay Bennett's Cartoons." It is merely a sub-section and a separate page of the opinion pages.

The true online Opinion Page most certainly does allow opinions to be expressed equally.

You can access it on a daily basis in one of two ways. You can get to the opinion page by looking at the lower right hand corner of Clay Bennett's cartoon posted on the home page of the TFP website, and clicking on the words "View more" or you can click on the word "opinion" in the red bar at the top of the TFP home page.

That issue now settled, do you want to again explain to the peanut gallery why it is a mistaken belief on my part that you are obsessed with Clay Bennett?

January 2, 2012 at 9:09 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Alprova,

I try to explain this one more time...

The obviously left leaning cartoon sitting on the top of the on-line opinion page dominates that page and sets the tone for the entire page. It distracts from the opinion pieces. The bulk of the discussion is then centered around a stupid cartoon while the more substantial opinion pieces get relatively little attention. Whereas I suppose it is true that there is room for all opinions the conspicuous eye sore at the top of the page attracts undue attention. If there was a comparable right leaning cartoon sitting next to Bennett’s it would not surprise me if visitors would spend much less time on cartoons in general and would get on to the more important issues.

If Bennett was capable of mixing up his subject matter more it would also help. He seems to have a repertoire of about a half dozen subjects so visitors drawn to his inflammatory pustule on the top of the page end up recycling arguments and the discussion degrades to name calling and personal attacks.

Is the opinion page a vehicle to discuss Clay Bennett’s offensive work or should it be a place to discuss ideas? It seems to me that it serves the former and the latter suffers due to Bennett’s contribution.

January 3, 2012 at 10:07 a.m.
alprova said...

BRP wrote: "Alprova, I try to explain this one more time..."

Please do.

"The obviously left leaning cartoon sitting on the top of the on-line opinion page dominates that page and sets the tone for the entire page."

Again, the page, if you click on it to open it, is named "Clay Bennett's Cartoons." Personally, I don't visit sites where I know I am going to find material that I don't care for.

"It distracts from the opinion pieces."

Oh please. Every single opinion article opens up into its own unique page, once you click on it. You are free to comment on each and every one of them too in their own unique thread. Are you too lazy to scroll down and click the mouse?

"The bulk of the discussion is then centered around a stupid cartoon while the more substantial opinion pieces get relatively little attention."

No one forces you to enter Clay's page at all. You are free to concentrate all of your attention on any opinion piece you so desire. All you have to do is click on one that interests you.

"Whereas I suppose it is true that there is room for all opinions the conspicuous eye sore at the top of the page attracts undue attention."

Not unless you are obsessessed with the creator, it doesn't.

"If there was a comparable right leaning cartoon sitting next to Bennett’s it would not surprise me if visitors would spend much less time on cartoons in general and would get on to the more important issues."

What's your excuse? You claim to want to get on to the more important issues, but you can't seem to pass up opportunity each and every time Clay posts a new cartoon to offer at least one post calling him a name.

"If Bennett was capable of mixing up his subject matter more it would also help. He seems to have a repertoire of about a half dozen subjects so visitors drawn to his inflammatory pustule on the top of the page end up recycling arguments and the discussion degrades to name calling and personal attacks."

You're like a little girl. Nothing satisfies you. Contrary to what you think, the world does not revolve around what you want.

"Is the opinion page a vehicle to discuss Clay Bennett’s offensive work or should it be a place to discuss ideas? It seems to me that it serves the former and the latter suffers due to Bennett’s contribution."

You're hopelessly in love with Mr. Bennett and his work. You just need to learn how to express yourself properly.

Do you know what you remind me of? You remind me of a guy that posts a personal ad, seeking a female. It's all good until you scroll down and see the picture supplied with the ad, consisting of only genitals.

Men who do that operate with the mistaken idea that a woman is going to look at that picture of their junk and fall in love immediately. It's sad. It's pathetic.

And your obsession with Clay is just as sad and pathetic. The only thing missing is the picture of your junk.

January 3, 2012 at noon
BigRidgePatriot said...

Lord Alprova, You are hopeless.

I am not talking about Clay Bennett's cartoon page. I am talking about its dominance of the opinion page.

Are you to stupid to understand that? I guess so!

January 3, 2012 at 12:08 p.m.
alprova said...

BRP wrote: "I am not talking about Clay Bennett's cartoon page. I am talking about its dominance of the opinion page."

Yesterday, your entire complaint surrounded "balance on the on-line opinion page."

Shown that yesterday's complaint held no water, you morphed it into today's complaint that Clay's cartoons "dominate the opinion page."

I can only imagine what your complaint will consist of tomorrow.

January 3, 2012 at 12:36 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

BRP wrote: "I am not talking about Clay Bennett's cartoon page. I am talking about its dominance of the opinion page."

Alprova responded: "Yesterday, your entire complaint surrounded "balance on the on-line opinion page."

Am I to believe that you cannot understand that if the cartoon dominates the page it destroys balance? Really? I am starting to feel pity for you now...

January 3, 2012 at 3:26 p.m.
alprova said...

BRP wrote: "Am I to believe that you cannot understand that if the cartoon dominates the page it destroys balance? Really? I am starting to feel pity for you now..."

And I'm starting to think you wear shoes that are as wide as they are long, with waffle cone tread on them.

You're credibility just took a nosedive.

January 3, 2012 at 5:09 p.m.
alprova said...

tu_quoque wrote: "When I visit, I want to go to a thread that will contain the most Fleabagging Libtards so that I can get maximum coverage when I rub their faces in their ideological poo."

Will you let us know when you actually accomplish such a feat? You've been hanging around for a couple of weeks now and I haven't seen you score a point yet.

January 3, 2012 at 5:15 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

:) enough said!

January 3, 2012 at 5:19 p.m.
SavartiTN said...

It's been fun, guys, but, apparently, the TFP is slowly moving our comments to Facebook. What is with that?

January 3, 2012 at 5:37 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

BigRidgePatriot said: “TFP insists on showing an ultra-liberal face with its on-line editorial page that is not representative of Chattanooga. This makes Bennett, the Wart on the top of the on-line opinion page, a very ripe target. I only ask for balance. If the right was represented there would be nothing to complain about.”

As a Chattanooga native, I find your assertion a bit humorous, BigRidgePatriot. To date, I only know a couple of people who share your political perspective. To suggest your perspective is representative of Chattanooga is obviously not true.

As for the TFP and balance in regard to political perspective, I believe the paper leans much more to the right than to left. Perhaps, a good example is the Lemar Alexander article that appeared in today’s news. Although Alexander is obviously expressing his personal political opinion about a variety of issues, the readers who do not share his opinions are not given the opportunity to respond. Granted members of the public could write a letter to the editor, but only a few of those letters would be selected and they would also be subject to editing by TFP.

Clearly, this is not the case with readers who wish to respond to one of Clay Bennett’s political cartoons. Any reader who has the desire to say something about Mr. Bennett’s cartoon has the opportunity to respond to the cartoon. Readers should have the same opportunity when it comes to politicians who are expressing their political views.

January 3, 2012 at 6:09 p.m.
SavartiTN said...

I agree with mountainlaurel on this one.

January 3, 2012 at 7:01 p.m.
acerigger said...

We can't respond to Alexander,Corker,Fleishman,et al,because someone may not agree with their hype?

The thrill is gone!

January 3, 2012 at 8:49 p.m.
dude_abides said...

GOP is gerrymandering to insure that the State Legislature stays republican, and BRP is in here complaining about a political cartoon he feels is not 50/50. BRP you have the same credibilty as the home crowd at a ballgame, who boo the opposing pitcher every time he throws to first between pitches, but seem not to notice that their guy does the same thing. The difference is that the hostile, partisan home crowd are only at a ballgame, whereas you would impose your will upon others lives if you could. They're pretending to be as mean and unfair as you really are.

January 3, 2012 at 9:27 p.m.
alprova said...

tu_quoque wrote: "Even one of your Libtard posters thinks that type of activity is in bad form"

"GMills said..."

"Do you think that makes you a big person? Actually, it makes you sound like an 10 year old child."

"LMAO"

Did you happen to miss whom those comments were directed? GMills was addressing shifarobe.

January 4, 2012 at 12:34 a.m.
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