published Friday, July 13th, 2012

5-at-10: Friday Mailbag

From CelticVol

Hey 5@10,

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    Tennessee coach Derek Dooley walks the sidelines during the first half of an NCAA college football game with Arkansas in Fayetteville, Ark., Saturday, Nov. 12, 2011. (AP Photo/April L. Brown)

What do you think Derek Dooley is doing right now? Is he in the witness protection program? Is he holed up in a bunker somewhere watching game film? Is he in Jalen Ramsey’s living room making a final pitch to get him to come to UT? It’s like he goes into hiding from the end of February until fall camp. This guy has one of the best personalities in all of college football and nobody ever gets to see or hear him. If I’m the UT athletic department I’m calling ESPN and setting up appointments with Mike & Mike, Scott Van Pelt, etc. etc. What are your thoughts?

P.S. Please somebody in the NBA accept a trade for Dwight Howard. I’m soooo sick of the Howard trade talk.


We agree that Dooley has a big-time personality and rarely does not win an interview. He will need that skill next week, when the pressure on Dooley and his Vols figures to be one of the main themes at the SEC media days.

As for Dooley's offseason schedule since April, here's what we can view it as:

— Wrap up spring practice, interviews and such. (Check.)

— Call Hutchinson Community College and make sure Cordarrelle is doing well.

— Call Vonn Bell and let him know we saw his DVD.

— Make sure everyone is ready for finals.

— Pray that everyone important passes their finals.

— Call Hutchinson Community College and make sure Cordarrelle is doing well.

— Take the family to the beach during the recruiting dead period.

— Recruit like nuts and try and convince Jalen that USC is where evil lives.

— Practice answering questions about "Hot seat" and "Pressure" and "Expectations."

— Call Cordarrelle just to say hello.

— Go to the SEC meetings.

And yes, the Dwight Howard storyline at this point is about as exciting watching grass dry. Want an interesting view of that debacle? Someone get Stan Van Gundy on the phone.


From wannabe33

Did you see that Rueben Foster flipped his commitment from Alabama to Auburn? Something doesn't smell right. Wait and see, your Auburn buddies are going down on this one.


We've never been into the conspiracy theories about this recruit or that recruit or he's getting paid and whatever.

Plus, we've never been one to put too much stock in the verbal commitments of 17- and 18-year-old kids. They change far too often.

That said, the recruitment of Rueben Foster, the No. 1 linebacker in the country and ranked as high as the No. 2 player in the country has been interesting for a while.

Foster was at Troup County High School in Georgia through his junior season before his coach was fired. Troup County High is about as far from Auburn as Dalton is from Chattanooga. After his coach was dismissed, Foster transferred to Auburn High School, where he joined the football team that included the sons of Auburn assistants Curtis Luper and Trooper Taylor.

After being committed to Alabama for more than a year, Foster switched to Auburn on Thursday in a ceremony that included having his daughter dressed in an Auburn cheerleading uniform.

And here's where it gets strange. (And yes, we know that all of the previous stuff could count as strange, but hold on.)

We had several folks send us this, and we're passing it along. Remember last year when Auburn had the verbal pledge of in-state five-star running back T.J. Yeldon before he switched to Alabama at the 11th hour, well here's what he said at his announcement of his decision to pick Alabama:

"Over the last few weeks, I've really put a lot of time and thought into where I want to go to school and continue my football career. I am blessed to be in a situation where I have several great opportunities and I appreciate everyone involved who has helped me get to this point."

"I want to make an announcement so I can put this behind me and get to work on the things I need to do to prepare for college both athletically and academically. I am going to enroll at the University of Alabama in January.

"I have a lot of respect for Auburn, the coaches, and all of the people there, but at the end of the day I feel like the University of Alabama is the best situation and fit for me and my family. I am 100 percent confident with my final decision. I feel great about it and I'm excited to get started."

This is what Foster said Thursday:

"Over the last few weeks I've really put a lot of thought and time into where I will play football," Foster said at a press conference at his high school. "I want to make an announcement so I can put this behind me and get in all the work I need to do for high school and to get better for college both academically and athletically. I am going to enroll at Auburn University."

"I have a lot of respect for Alabama and the coaches and all of the other people and fans," Foster said. "At the end of the day, I feel Auburn University is the place for me and my family and I am 100 percent confident in my final decision. I feel great about my decision and I'm excited to get started."

Here's saying that's not a coincidence.


From Jefe,

It's almost here. You can feel it, can't you? The SEC media days mean the light at the end of the summer tunnel is there and we are going to talk football.


OK, 5er, we know there will be a host of questions about replacing this starter or that reserve or who is going to "step up" and which team has the best kicking game. That's OK because at least we're talking football, right?

In the 5@10's style, what are the five questions that will never see the light of day this week at media days?


Such a good question. You guys really brought it this week. We can kind of feel the change — maybe it was the rain and the cooler temps in the greater Chatta-Vegas area. Maybe it was the thought of football on the immediate horizon. Who knows?

The storylines this week in Hoover, Ala., will be direct and newsworthy. There's the playoff system to discuss. There's the drive for the league to win its seventh national title in a row. There's the Paterno fall-out. Basically, we're dealing with a lot of stuff... (Candlesticks make a nice gift; maybe find out where they are registered and get them a place-setting. Let's get two.)

That said, you did not ask for the storylines. You asked for the questions that will not see the light of day. OK, here we go.

1) Coach Saban, when is the next Phi Mu event?

2) Coach Chizik, how is Cecil Newton's church doing?

3) Coach John L. Smith, have you visited other athletic programs at Arkansas, primarily the volleyball team?

4) Coach Joker Phillips, have you sent out any resumes yet as a pro-active move?

5) Coach Dooley, your hair is awesome. Gel or foam?


From ChattanoogaVol

The Braves trade for Mark Texiera (who lasted the last half of one season and 1st half of another with them) may be one of the worst of all time. The Braves gave up the following for Texiera (and reliever Ron Mahay): Matt Harrison (who pitched in the All Star game last night), Elvis Andrus (who played in the All Star game last night), Neftali Feliz (who won the Rookie of the Year award for the Rangers a couple of years ago) and Jarrod Saltalamacchia (who has 17 homers at the break for the Red Sox). I guess Braves fans should be glad that Beau Jones, the other player the Braves gave up, hasn't done anything in the majors...yet.

Trades can be a scray thing, of course. What are the worst ones you can remember. A good trade for the Braves was nabbing a very young John Smoltz from Detroit for a very old Doyle Alexander. Of course, the all time worst trade (actually he was "sold" maybe not a "real" trade) was the Red Sox sending Babe Ruth to the Yankees. Bret Favre from the Falcons to the Packers for a 1st rounder wasn't pretty if you are a Falcons fan.

C-Vol II,

Excellent question. Simply outstanding.

You mentioned the worst trade ever — the Red Sox swapping Babe Ruth for $100,000 cash so Boston owner Harry Frazee could finance a Broadway play. Ruth held out for double his $20,000 salary after the 1919 season, saying he would retire without the raise. There were only two serious suitors for Ruth — the White Sox offered Shoeless Joe Jackson and $60,000 and the Yankees offered the straight cash deal.

Of course the Ruth deal was only a touch worse than the Reds dealing Frank Robinson for Milt Pappas and a collection of lesser-knowns. (Yes, less-known than Milt Pappas.)

Here are the five worse deals in the last 30 years:

1) The Colts giving away John Elway for the collection of stiffs that included Mark Hermann, Chris Hinton and Ron Solt. Ouch-standing.

2) Kobe Bryant to L.A. for Vlade Divac

3) Dallas sends Herschel Walker to Minnesota; Minnesota sends a dynasty to Dallas: In a deal that involved more draft picks than any happening since Pearl Harbor, the Cowboys built their early-1990s dynasty on the back of this deal. Dallas received five players, six conditional draft picks and a 1992 first-rounder. Jimmy Johnson continued to wheel and deal those picks and turned those seeds into a reported 55 players that helped the Cowboys. Among the players picked with the direct picks sent from Minnesota to Dallas were Emmitt Smith, Alvin Harper and Darren Woodson.

4) Boston sends Jeff Bagwell to Houston for Larry Anderson.

5) Dirk Nowitzki for Robert "Tractor" Traylor on draft day in 1998. Be very careful dealing on draft day.

Our favorite trade ever? That's easy. In 1962 the Mets sent Harry Chiti to Cleveland for a player to be named later. After the season, Cleveland sent Chiti back to the Mets as that player, so technically, the Mets and Indians traded Harry Chiti for Harry Chiti. That would have to be the most even trade of all time, right?


From scole023,

I know how much you like to talk, so I'm going to make this easy for you. Here are three question, but you have to answer them in a paragraph each. I don't think you can do it, but let's give it a go.

When's the next contest — I like to win stuff?

Did you see the T.O. news?

Can this be the end of the Paterno story for a while?



We love how you keep us in check. Thanks,

Well, let's give this a go.

The next contest is the Openly Open Championship Championship at next week's British Open. The rules are like normal with a slight twist as suggested by friend of the show wcole777. Pick five golfers and the low four finishes count and lowest score wins. The change this time is that if you pick Tiger Woods, you only get four picks and all will count. Questions?

We did see the T.O. news, and it's tragic. Dude is $20,000 behind in child support and failed to show at court this week, meaning jail time could be a real possibility. The future does not look bright for Mr. Owens, regardless of whether he wears shades or not.

It's impossible to know when the Paterno story will end. And since there's no way we can keep our views on that topic to a paragraph, we'll link to our column in today's paper


Gang, as always feel free to discuss any of the above topics — SPy, you have a couple of questions that won't be asked at SEC media days? — or anything on your mind.

about Jay Greeson...

Jay was named the Sports Editor of the Times Free Press in 2003 and started with the newspaper in May 2002 as the Deputy Sports Editor. He was born and raised in Smyrna, Ga., and graduated from Auburn University before starting his newspaper career in 1997 with the Newnan (Ga.) Times Herald. Stops in Clayton and Henry counties in Georgia and two years as the Sports Editor of the Marietta (Ga.) Daily Journal preceded Jay’s ...

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To CelticVol, get a life. It's not Derek Dooley's job to keep you amused. If you need 24/7 stimulation, then subscribe to Wes Rucker's twitter. Wes craves more followers.

July 13, 2012 at 10:38 a.m.
chas9 said...

Overall, I'm no great shakes as a trade evaluator. I liked Tractor Traylor. Maybe it was just the nickname. But I did know immediately the Falcons shouldn't have let Favre go.

Assuming I'm probably the only 5@10 correspondent who bothered with the U.S. vs. D.R. basketball game yesterday evening, I guess I have to alert you all. This U.S. Olympic team could approach the level of The Dream Team (though MJ doesn't think so). Bryant, James, Anthony, Durant and Chandler will get a lot of minutes. As the game wound down, Westbrook and The Beard Harden looked tough. And The Unibrow (having just joined the team) closed with a few good plays, including a long three-pointer.

July 13, 2012 at 11:03 a.m.
jgreeson said...


Don't think CelticVol was alluding to Dooley being out in public for kicks and giggles. Rather, Dooley dominates in press conferences and interviews — dude is almost always the smartest guy in the room — and in a time where the pressure is starting to increase, being in the public eye could be a good thing. At least that's how we took his question.

Go easy on our guy Rucker. He's one of the hardest workers around.

9er —

Hey, we were right there with you.

We love the draft — you know this — and when the Bucks dealt some German we'd never heard of for the load from Michigan that was Robert "Tractor" Traylor we thought it was a steal. For the BUCKS.

The 1992 gang may have been better basketball players — nobody on the current team could shoot it like Mullin or Bird — but the level of athletes that this bunch has is SICK.

— 5-at-10

July 13, 2012 at 11:37 a.m.
Stewwie said...

I was watching as well, Chas. Nice shot from AD on the 3-pointer while getting fouled. Then he got up and pointed and yelled at Coach Cal, and not smiling. Bitter blue blood between the two or just a competitive, playful jab?

Add Pippen now to the list of Dream Teamers who are high on a high horse. Asked how Team '12 would do against Team '92, he said, "We'd win by 25." No harm in saying they'd win, but at least predict a close game like it'd be.

The Dream Teamers keep boasting about their post guys while ignoring Team' 12s huge advantage with LeBron and KD at the 3/4. In '92, MJ took far more shots than the others in those 8 Olympic games. Even with an advantage at the forward position, do you think that MJ gives up his shots? Don't think so. Besides, if Bobby Hurley and Chris Webber could slice and dice the Dream Teamers, it's safe to say that Team '12 would definitely compete and have a realistic chance of winning.

July 13, 2012 at 11:44 a.m.
Todd962 said...

I think I will reserve my thoughts on the '12 Olympic Team until they play somebody other than the Dominican Republic. But my thoughts are leaning Dream Team. Those guys last night werent even able to beat DR by double their score...that leaves this Dream Team lover unimpressed. Ha. Maybe Steven Tyler left American Idol to focus on Aerosmith's sponsorship of the 2012 Olympic "Dream On" Team.

But in reality what is the point of comparing these two teams aside from filling hours of SportsCenter before football kicks in? Is one team going to be able to win a gold medal that is any shinier than the others. Short of a time machine it will just make for interesting smack talk amongst the players. But I would like to see the old timers suit up one last time to face this team, Pepsi's "Uncle Drew" style. Do you think Jordan could dunk over a Dwight Howard at 49 years old? It would probably end up more like Michael Jordan being folded up into a basketball (SpaceJam-esque) than a tongue waging Jordan slam.

July 13, 2012 at 11:49 a.m.
jgreeson said...

Stew, Stew got what we need —

Pippen is a fraud. Period. No one this side of Ringo Starr got more mileage out of the company he kept than Pippen. He can shut his yapper, unless he wants to discuss why Kukoc was the one Phil Jackson wanted to take the last shot in year 1 of Post-Jordan and Pippen's reaction was to sit the play out.

And yes, KD and LeBron are big-time match-up problems. In fact, watching the perfect basketball specimen that is LBJ going against the perfect competitor that is MJ would be awesome in its awesomeness.

That said...

Mr. 962 is spot on that this is nothing more than nothing, and the only reason it has swept the national sports discourse is that nothing other than the Freeh report is going on.

And talking about insurance seminars is better than thinking about the Freeh report.

As for your question 962 — No way a 49-year-old Jordan dunks on Dwight. He may drive, ball fake and draw the foul, but no way he's dunking on Dwight.

PS — Great call about the Uncle Drew commercials. One of the best sports commercials of all time. Excellent stuff.

  • 5-at-10
July 13, 2012 at 12:03 p.m.
fechancellor said...

Tembuk 3, I mean Ten Ring, saw those cats in small hall where Roswell meets Peachtree in '87. Decent show, but not much more.

Here's a candidate for worst ever trade: Ditka hands over his entire draft board to the Redskins to move up 5 and take Ricky Williams.

Anyone interested in the Draftology can consult

July 13, 2012 at 12:14 p.m.
deboman said...

5er- Nice list and I have to say that I love the smell of NCAA football in the morning. Good stuff.

Have another crazy trade that might not be on your radar, kind of a combo Hershel Walker-John Elway maneuver between the Philadelphia Flyers and Quebec Nordiques. The Nordiques drafted projected superstar Eric Lindros and he refused to sign or play for the lowly Nord. They traded the whiny Lindros to Philly for Peter Forsberg & 5 other players, Two 1st round picks, and $15 million dollars. Over the course of the next few years, the Quebec franchise moved to Colorado, used the assets garnered from the trade to bring in Patrick Roy, Ray Bourque, and Rob Blake, and build the franchise into a perennial powerhouse and won two Stanley Cup championships. Philly made it to the finals once but Lindros battled concussions throughout his career and never reached his potential.

July 13, 2012 at 12:36 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

The Spy sends congratulations to young Mr. Hargis, one of Spy's favorite people.

July 13, 2012 at 12:37 p.m.
chas9 said...

Stew--I think the AD glare just shows his competitiveness. He's fun to watch. And what about the 16-year-old playing for the D.R.? Guess he'll end up playing for Coach Cal again in a couple of years. Todd's right that the '92-'12 debate is silly. But it'll be a video game soon, no doubt.

July 13, 2012 at 12:59 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

I got the digits of a girl Scottie Pippen once tried to get to go back to his hotel room. She shut him down like the Bulls on Charles Smith

July 13, 2012 at 1:05 p.m.
CVOL said...

I normally don't respond to comments by your readers Mr. 5@10, but I feel the need to after reading bookieturnersghost comment. The point of my question was that Dooley needs to spark up a little excitement for recruits and fans as a whole. Let's be honest, times on The Hill are tough right now. If they weren't tough, UT wouldn't be offering a 3 game ticket pack that included the Florida & Alabama games.

July 13, 2012 at 1:17 p.m.
jgreeson said...

From friend of the show StuckinKent, part I

How does that British Open contest work? Will I be disqualified if I have two guys that don't make the cut, since 4 of my 5 picks scores are counting? Is the score relative to par- meaning the guys who miss the cut will still have their scores relative to par count?

Trying to figure out the way to make that work for me. I'm looking forward to doing it. That will be a fun contest.

Another question- how many college football contests will we have this year?

July 13, 2012 at 2:18 p.m.
jgreeson said...

From friend of the show StuckinKent, part II

Dream Team vs. Team '12.

I thought when I saw the roster (before this became a national story), "This is the best team since the Dream Team....and they may be able to give them a run for their money!" The problem- with no Blake Griffin, I find it even tougher to believe that anyone could consistently contain the Dream Team's inside game.

The thing people seem to forget when analyzing the Dream Team is that Larry Bird was old. If Larry Bird was younger, maybe the Dream Team does win big. But his last NBA season was 91-92. He was still a great player- just not in his prime.

Magic Johnson's last season was 90-91 before returning in the mid-90s. So he had not played organized basketball for a year. He was still close to the top of his game due to his age, but the rust against a real bunch of NBAers may have hurt him.

(All stats and years come from

We're talking about Lebron in his prime, and KD in his prime, and only Kobe slightly outside his prime for the big three players on Team '12. If Dwight Howard and Blake Griffin were healthy, this team could go toe to toe with the Dream Team, and probably win. Without them, I think they are underdogs and lose in a best of seven 4-2, in tight games.

July 13, 2012 at 2:21 p.m.
jgreeson said...

FE to teh C —

Tembuk 3? Wow, we've seen some one-hit wonders in our day — Yes, we're talking about you Georgia Satellites — but Tembuk 3?

Ditka's swapping his draft for Ricky was one-part foolish, one-part lazy. Dude wanted Ricky sure, but he also didn't want to sweat the draft. So it goes. Now he can sit on the ESPN set and do his Grumpy Old Man impression.

Debo —

Smell of NCAA football in the morning... it smells like victory. Charlie don't surf.

And even though we're hockey-challenged, the Lindros deal was in our top 10.

Spy —

Congrats are indeed needed for Mr. Stephen Hargis, who was named Tennessee Sports Writer of the Year. The young scribe had a big-time season.

And as much as we loved our Ringo line about Pippen, now we can say, "Pippen? Heck, Spy's got more game than Pippen." And mean it.

9er —

Great call that the Dream Team face off will so be a video game. And when will that teenager from the Dominican spend his one season with Coach Cal?

C-Vol —

We got the meaning of your question and agreed with you. Dooley can steal a room, but you can;t steal said room if you're not in said room.

— 5-at-10

July 13, 2012 at 2:33 p.m.
jgreeson said...

Stuck —

As for the Openly Open Championship Championship, here's what we're thinking:

Normal rules in that places count — 1 point for first, 5 points for fifth, etc., and the lowest total wins. Best four finishers count. You get five picks unless you pick Tiger, then you only get four picks. If you have four picks and one of your guys misses the cut, he'll technically finish plus-1 to how many guys make the cut.


We agree that without a healthy Dwight or Blake, the current dreamers would have a tough time.

— 5-at-10

July 13, 2012 at 2:39 p.m.
Todd962 said...

Spy, I've heard numerous tales of Scottie playing for the other team. Did you happen to check the ole girl for an adam's apple before getting those digits? I kid, I kid. Thats a pretty sweet story.

Dont know if the 92v12 video game would work seeing how no one that would probably be playing it would know who the players on 92 were, outside of Jordan. "Dad, why did they make a whole game about the olympic team playing the NBA on TNT staff? And why does their team have white people?" (Ok Kevin Love, I see you holding it down.) They might make it a 2v2 matchup like the old 14lb gameboy game "In Your Face Basketball." That way it would be limited to people the younger generation had actually heard of. (Sidenote: when you scored in that game it made the most annoying blare in the history of video games.)

July 13, 2012 at 3:05 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

The Satellites first three albums were just awesome. "Six Years Gone" and "All Over But the Crying" on their third (?) are terrific tracks. That and lead singer Dan Baird bought a satellite dish ... so he could watch any baseball game he wanted. And one of the Satellites spent a couple of years at Fort Stewart in the decade and a half we were there.

As for my Pippen blocker, she's an Auburn grad and a hospice nurse and hands down, one of the two most beautiful women I have ever met. The other was Evan Longoria's latest squeeze. Her parents brought her to my office to meet me a couple of years ago.

July 13, 2012 at 3:15 p.m.
Stewwie said...

Ah yes, the discussion of who's better in this matchup is indeed silly (because it can't happen of course) but it makes good fodder for water cooler talk. (Or 5-at-10 blog talk.) Has HYH been invented yet? If so, give some of that Human Youth Hormone to the Dream Teamers and let's get ready to ball.

Maybe the NBA should pit '92 vs. '12 in a HORSE competition during All-Star Weekend next year. Or some kind of skills challenge that involves little to no athleticism. The contests themselves wouldn't be too exciting but all the trash talking would be. Put mics on all the players (with a 5-second TV delay, of course). This could be a good TV draw...especially if ESPN hypes it up pretty good beforehand. Well no wait...ESPN never hypes anything. ;)

July 13, 2012 at 3:21 p.m.
BIspy4 said...


The open ice hit Scott Stevens once laid on Lindros on the playoffs (a clean play. Lindros was skating with his head down and Stevens, a known thumper, caught him flush in the chest and sent the Big E sprawling and unconscious), was one of the best I ever saw, and pretty much ended Lindros' career as a viable scoring threat.

July 13, 2012 at 5:28 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

Questions at SEC media days that won't see the light of day...

Coach, what's better in an envelope marked for a recruit's uncle, unmarked $20s or third-party cashier's checks? Are new or recent used cars a better investment in recruiting?

Coach, in "entertaining" recruits, how many "private tours" from escorts, I mean hostesses, do you arrange?

July 13, 2012 at 5:31 p.m.
jgreeson said...

You guys rock.

Happy weekend, and you all be careful out there.

May your birdies be many and you glass be full.

This is Casey Kasem saying so long.

— 5-at-10

July 13, 2012 at 5:38 p.m.
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