published Saturday, July 14th, 2012

The Webmaster

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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John_Proctor said...

Good one Clay!

No, absolutely no nepotism here. Nothing to see. Move on.

July 14, 2012 at 12:08 a.m.
fairmon said...

Some things just don't look right even if the intent is good. The bosses kid working in the organization usually does not have good results.

July 14, 2012 at 1:10 a.m.
joneses said...

Who cares. It is not like there has never been nepotism in government before. How many people have been related to the Knowles family over the years? But then again they are dummycrats so the rules are obviously different. another example of Clay Bennett's liberal hypocrisy.

July 14, 2012 at 4:50 a.m.
Yano said...

Not always, but in general, the members of your own family are members of your own race, and one of the effects of nepotism therefore is racial discrimination. The same often applies when southern white men hire their "friends."

Furthermore, it would be an incredible coincidence if time and again the best candidate for a position was somehow related to the boss.

The taxpayers deserve better than to have their money used as the spoils of cronyism.

Every position should be externally advertised, and the best qualified candidate should always be hired, regardless of personal ties to the politician at the top.

Nepotism should be illegal in government because it is discriminatory and doesn't result in the best hires. It is certainly bad management, and corrupt.

July 14, 2012 at 6:52 a.m.
Yano said...

In the case of Jim Hammond's son, he literally was not qualified for the open position, so they changed the title and duties of the position in order to be able to hire him!

Who could defend this?

July 14, 2012 at 7:02 a.m.
conservative said...

The loontoonist had to change the subject. His boy Owebama was taking a beating.

July 14, 2012 at 8:12 a.m.
potcat said...

The job title in and of itself sounds unauthentic,unreal,not genuine,or worthy of acceptance. There's a wee bit of monster ego involved. It sounds full of conceit, pride, selfishness...Master, huh.

WebMaster makes some damn good salad, $40 something 1,000 a yr. in which i'm sure he has a secretary and a "Master Donnie Jenkins" at his beck and call.

Nepotism, nah, you reckon? I am sure the big masters of govment in Chatt town would'nt have any bias, prejudice and portronage, much less nepotism going on, all them God fearing, praying maniacs would'nt, could'nt.

I would love to be a fly on the wall of the WebMasters office for a week to actually see how productive his webmastering is and if we are getting our money's worth. What exactly is a WebMaster? Does he have to have the last name Knowles or Hammond??

"Chatt town" could possibly become a hit show on the telly, you can't make this stuff up. A couple good writers away from Springfield!!!

July 14, 2012 at 8:36 a.m.
Fendrel said...

Anyone have a copy of the job requirements as posted? I'm always amused by government jobs that typically ask for a skill set that virtually no one has (a list of technologies a mile long).

I mean, it's not like this website has anything difficult or unusual about it (except maybe a few of the opinions!)

July 14, 2012 at 10:27 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

If nepotism was illegal, Robert Kennedy would never have become Attorney General in 1961. So it was 50 years ago, what's the difference. Does that make it not true?

July 14, 2012 at 10:31 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

They do that on purpose Fendrel. So as not to hire outsiders. Government jobs are strictly for the "who you know and blow" types. That's how they keep the corruption going.

July 14, 2012 at 10:40 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Nepotism sux, but it exists at all levels. Check out BHO's and Queen Michelle's staffs. Just the way it is.

July 14, 2012 at 10:47 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

"Obama rewards big bundlers with jobs, commissions, stimulus money, government contracts, and more"

http://www.iwatchnews.org/node/4880/

Seems nepotism goes all the way to the top.

July 14, 2012 at 10:52 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

Here's one! "Obama guts welfare reform"! What a disgrace!

http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/13/will-obama-get-away-with-it/

July 14, 2012 at 11:08 a.m.
John_Proctor said...

Jonesey, the Knowles klan defected to the dark side of the force, thereby raising the collective I.Q's of both parties, and announced it publicly at least a year ago.

So much for your example of Clay's "liberal hypocrisy" but I'm sure you and the rest of your playmates from the right side of the sandbox will find other examples to fit your twisted logic.

July 14, 2012 at 11:13 a.m.
328Kwebsite said...

The job requirements were posted alongside the article. They're on the second page of the pdf. As advertised, the job itself was typical for computer work in Chattanooga.

It pays less than 60% of the national average; and, apparently no one else at the business (in this case, the Sheriff's office) seems to know enough about computers to recognize that they need to build an effective team of professionals; so, instead they advertise for one underpaid "computer guy" who is on duty 24/7.

A common candidate for computer work as a webmaster in Chattanooga will probably arrive trained to code data structures by hand; he'll build databases that allow public users to anonymously comment while disallowing SQL injection and basic website hacks. He'll probably need to be fluent in at least five programming languages; and, know when to choose each to best match the task at hand. It'll be likely that he'll have to write all the new code himself while adapting to whatever was written by some unknown programmer before him.

Then people in the office will call him up and say, "Dude, I forgot my password."

The main difficulty with this situation is that the Sheriff's son was the only one hired and the only one to apply. Everything else about it is typical for computer jobs in this area.

Jimi Hammond has been qualified to be a good webmaster for over 10 years, I think. He can do the job. It's probably well within the scope of his abilities.

The newsworthiness is that his dad is the Sheriff who just hired his own son.

July 14, 2012 at 11:59 a.m.
jesse said...

This type of behavior is typical of the S/O and county cov. all of my life,dating back to the 1950's and Bookie turner and that ilk! Get used to it,ain't gomma change as long as we have an electorate that lets the pols do their thinkin for them!

the answer is to vote out EVERY encumbant and let the new guy know that "buis, as usual will put you on the road too!

July 14, 2012 at 12:28 p.m.
jesse said...

i got to know some of the knowles clan back in the 60's when i was w/the chatta.p.d. and they were working for Fuller bonding co! needless to say i got some stories i could tell!

all dead and gone now BUT let me say they do not live at the foot of the cross!!

July 14, 2012 at 1:04 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

jesse: too many entitlement dems around to vote out all the incumbents. Hell, when Hugo Obama decides he wants an unprecedented 3rd term, the left will pucker their lips and support him.

July 14, 2012 at 1:06 p.m.
jesse said...

No jack!! The electorate in this AGE is a HERD W/a herd mentality! they do what they are told by the folks they think are not blowins smoke up their backside! tHE PROB.IS EVERYBODY IN PUB.LIFE IS BLOWIN SMOKE AND JOE BLOW IS TOO dumb TO REALISE IT! i look at this forum w/all the self rigtious deep thinkers on here and all i can believe is "what a bunch of "space cadets"! they are so busy tellin each other what a bunch of idjits they are that they fail to realise they ARE whats wrong!

July 14, 2012 at 1:19 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Jesse: But the left has the high moral ground. Just ask.

July 14, 2012 at 1:27 p.m.
alprova said...

Jack_Dennis wrote: "...when Hugo Obama decides he wants an unprecedented 3rd term..."

You really believe that, don't you?

The man would have to be insane to want to be President for a third term after the crap he has had to endure from some of you people. Thankfully, you and your ilk are a very slim minority of this nation.

And before someone hops up and down, wailing that the country is split down the middle, what I am referring to are the people that have absolutely no manners when it comes to making reference to the President.

There's nothing wrong with finding disagreement with the man, but there's absolutely no reason to refer to him in disrespectful terms.

I guess I was raised by decent parents, who drummed it into my head to be respectful every person, no matter what.

July 14, 2012 at 3:12 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Liberals make up about 30% of this country. The rest are at least independent if not conservative. As far as disrespecting the president, Bush put up with you liberals calling him Hitler, the devil and stupid all while burning him in effigy....FOR EIGHT YEARS!!

Sorry jack, but three terms do have a precedent. The great liberal hero Frankie Roosevelt enjoyed FOUR terms! Well, he died during his fourth term. But there IS precedent.

July 14, 2012 at 3:44 p.m.
tderng said...

toes...but this is Obama. You can't say anything bad about him or you are a racist. You have to understand that liberals are of the ilk...do as I say not as I do.

July 14, 2012 at 3:58 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Yeah. Watch how fast the liberals turn into racist woman haters if Condi Rice gets the Veep slot.

July 14, 2012 at 4:03 p.m.
rick1 said...

tderng, if we do not like the white half of Obama either would we still be racist? Just asking.

July 14, 2012 at 4:10 p.m.
rick1 said...

I know this is off todays topic, but did anyone else see this report from GAO.

A recent report from the Government Accountability Office (GAO) has laid bare the Obama administration’s effort to delay the impact of Medicare cuts in the health care law until after the 2012 election.

http://freebeacon.com/gao-obamacare-timeline-based-on-election/

July 14, 2012 at 4:11 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

alprova: Don't be dissing my parents. And don't talk of any "ilk" disrespecting a president. I guess you were in Guam for the 8 years Dubya got ridiculed, skewered, pilloried, etc....not only by those of YOUR ilk, but the press as well. You've got a set, pal.

July 14, 2012 at 4:22 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Yeah Rick. That is also why most of Obamacare doesn't kick in until 2014. By then Obama won't care WHAT happens. The fact that he whispered to the Russians, "wait until after I'm reelected, then I'll give you what you want", says it all.

And when France "elected" their socialist president, Obama urged him not to implement his socialist programs until AFTER Obama was reelected. My guess is that Obama knows they don't work, and he didn't want the American people to get an early preview of his own policies at work.

July 14, 2012 at 4:26 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

HAHA!! Where will the Canadians go now for their healthcare? They should all go to alpo's house.

July 14, 2012 at 4:34 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Yeah, ole Al is real respectful of the Right. bwahahahaha TYPICAL, I say TYPICAL left-wing hypocrisy.

July 14, 2012 at 4:38 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Al needs to stay away from Bimini. Or stand in the middle.

July 14, 2012 at 7:05 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Rick1 and Toes,

"According to Deloitte consulting services, 875,000 Americans were medical tourists in 2010, traveling outside U.S. borders to receive health care: dental work, elective hip replacements, even bypass surgery."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health/medical-tourism-draws-growing-numbers-of-americans-to-seek-health-care-abroad/2011/02/09/AFkbobeC_story.html

"Varying reports containing medical tourism statistics put the number of American patients seeking healthcare abroad between 500,000 to 750,000 in 2007. This is a steady increase from the previous year, which medical experts believe to have been as much as 200,000 to half a million Americans traveled out of the country for medical procedures."

http://www.health-tourism.com/medical-tourism/statistics/

LOL! More Americans are "fleeing" their country in search of healthcare. Much more than Canadians!

Keep reaching dumbasses.

July 14, 2012 at 7:11 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

"And wait patients must. A hospital survey of five countries (United States, Canada, New Zealand, United Kingdom and Australia), conducted by Robert Blendon and colleagues in Health Affairs found that “waits of six months or more for elective surgeries were reported to occur ‘very often’ or ‘often’ by 26–57 percent of executives in the four non-U.S. countries; only 1 percent of U.S. hospitals reported this. Half of all Canadian hospitals reported an average waiting time of over six months for a 65-year-old male requiring a routine hip replacement; no American hospital administrators reported waits this long".

http://blog.heritage.org/2010/02/09/the-canadian-patients%E2%80%99-remedy-for-health-care-go-to-america/

July 14, 2012 at 7:42 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

"The nonpartisan Fraser Institute reported that 46,159 Canadians sought medical treatment outside of Canada in 2011, as wait times increased 104 percent — more than double — compared with statistics from 1993".

Keep reaching banana boy.

July 14, 2012 at 7:43 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Easy: Glad you're back. How was camp?

July 14, 2012 at 7:55 p.m.
mv said...

Most likely the best cartoon ever published in TFP.

July 14, 2012 at 8:22 p.m.
rick1 said...

TOES, you will find this article very interesting. Obama is telling us the samething Lenin told the Russians.

It is only going to get worse Ovomitcare is a disaster.

http://news.investors.com/article/607800/201204131846/obamacare-ominously-similar-to-soviet-socialized-medicine.htm?p=full

July 14, 2012 at 8:34 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Toes,

"According to Deloitte consulting services, 875,000 Americans were medical tourists in 2010, traveling outside U.S. borders to receive health care: dental work, elective hip replacements, even bypass surgery."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health/medical-tourism-draws-growing-numbers-of-americans-to-seek-health-care-abroad/2011/02/09/AFkbobeC_story.html

"Varying reports containing medical tourism statistics put the number of American patients seeking healthcare abroad between 500,000 to 750,000 in 2007. This is a steady increase from the previous year, which medical experts believe to have been as much as 200,000 to half a million Americans traveled out of the country for medical procedures."

http://www.health-tourism.com/medical-tourism/statistics/

LOL! More Americans are "fleeing" their country in search of healthcare. Much more than Canadians!

Keep reaching bitch boy.

July 14, 2012 at 9:03 p.m.
rick1 said...

TOES, with all of the taxes coming with OvomitCare those who can will flee this country here are a few of the new taxes. Please see the below link for the rest

  1. Hospital Insurance Tax. Beginning in 2013, Obamacare increases the Hospital Insurance (HI) portion of the payroll tax from 2.9 percent to 3.8 percent for families earning more than $250,000 a year and for single filers earning more than $200,000 annually. The increased HI tax is also applied to investment income for the first time. The 3.8 percent surtax on investment income is the most economically damaging tax in Obamacare. And these tax increases won’t remain just on families making more than $250,000 a year for long. As the JEC explains, this tax is not indexed to inflation: “This means that in just 10 years from now, the so-called ‘high-income’ thresholds will have effectively ratcheted down to $152,000 and $190,000 in today’s dollars.” This tax increase amounts to $210 billion between 2013 and 2019.

  2. Mandate Penalties. In 2014, Obamacare’s individual and employer mandates go into effect, forcing individuals to purchase coverage and employers to offer coverage to their workers. The penalties paid in association with these mandates are an estimated $65 billion between 2014 and 2019.

  3. Health Insurance Provider Fee. Starting in 2014, Obamacare imposes an annual fee on health insurance providers based on each company’s share of the total market. This totals a $60 billion tax hike between 2014 and 2019.

  4. “Cadillac” Tax. In 2018, Obamacare puts a new 40 percent excise tax on “Cadillac” health plans, meaning plans that cost more than $10,200 for an individual and $27,500 for families. However, this tax is not indexed to medical inflation, causing it to eventually tax “Honda” plans at this rate as well. The JEC points out that “[t]he bulk of revenues from the ‘Cadillac’ tax would not be paid by platinum health insurance plans, but rather by employees who are forced to exchange tax-free health insurance benefits for taxable wages after employers reduce or eliminate health insurance.” This tax amounts to $32 billion in higher taxes in the first two years of its implementation.

  5. Prescription Drug Fees. Since 2011, Obamacare has put an annual fee on manufacturers and importers of branded drugs based on each individual company’s share of the total market. Between 2011 and 2019, this will amount to a $27 billion tax increase.

  6. Ethanol Tax. In 2010, Obamacare excluded ethanol from the existing cellulosic biofuel producer tax credit. This will hike taxes $24 billion from 2010–2019.

  7. Medical Device Tax. Beginning in 2013, Obamacare imposes a 2.3 percent excise tax on medical device manufacturers. This will raise taxes on patients needing medical devices, who will ultimately pay the tax through higher prices, by $20 billion from 2013 to 2019.

http://blog.heritage.org/2012/04/18/top-10-most-expensive-obamacare-taxes-and-fees/

July 14, 2012 at 9:14 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Jack_Troll,

How is life at the nursing home?

July 14, 2012 at 9:14 p.m.
rick1 said...

TOES, here is another article on OvomitCare and how it will destroy jobs and the economy.

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2011/01/obamacare-and-new-taxes-destroying-jobs-and-the-economy

July 14, 2012 at 9:16 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Easy: 3 hots and a cot.

July 14, 2012 at 9:21 p.m.
alprova said...

rick1 wrote: "A recent report from the Government Accountability Office (GAO) has laid bare the Obama administration’s effort to delay the impact of Medicare cuts in the health care law until after the 2012 election."

Are you even remotely aware of what the Medicare Advantage Quality Bonus Payment Demonstration plan is all about? Clearly the author of that article doesn't. You haven't done an ounce of research either, or you would not have posted such tripe.

That plan, called for in ObamaCare is all about rewarding insurers that offer Medicare Advantage plans with more benefits while charging lower premiums. The five star rating system was designed to help guide people choosing Medicare Advantage plans that give them more bang for their bucks.

How can money being spent to reward insurance companies that offer more benefits to Medicare recipients at lower premiums, be considered for one second "spending cuts?" The goal is to weed out insurers that offer mediocre benefits, which will force them to offer more coverage to their Medicare customers, or they will lose customers to higher rated insurers that offer more benefits.

This demonstration plan is a means by which the Government is attempting to shift costs associated with providing care to private insurers.

When are you people going to learn 1.) That reductions in Medicare spending through methods promoting efficiency, are not spending "cuts," and 2.) That anti-Obama and ObamaCare sites rarely if ever present any facts.

The Washington Free Beacon makes it clear as a bell on it's "About Us" page that they are clearly anti-progressive. Their level of reporting leaves quite a bunch to be desired. There is not a shred of truth in that article.

The charge that there are any amount of "spending cuts" in the works through the implementation of ObamaCare is patently false, and it is nothing short of a redefinition of spending reductions that occur with more efficient spending.

http://www.politifact.com/new-jersey/statements/2012/jun/29/jon-runyan/jon-runyan-claims-barack-obamas-health-care-includ/

http://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2012/jun/20/american-crossroads/american-crossroads-says-tim-kaine-urged-500-billi/

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/mar/22/mitt-romney/mitt-romney-says-barack-obama-ending-medicare-we-k/

Read the GAO report.

http://gao.gov/products/GAO-12-409R

The GAO is absolutely and totally on board with the bonus payment system outlined in ObamaCare. The objection outlined in the above report stems from the fact that the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services decision to accelerate the bonus program, rather than to phase it in over the time plan called for in ObamaCare, allowing insurers time to comply and to compete.

July 14, 2012 at 9:24 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Rick1,

That has been debunked.

http://www.factcheck.org/2011/01/a-job-killing-law/

Keep reaching. You will believe absolutely any lie as long as it is spun against Obama. Do you realize how ignorant this makes you look? Obviously not.

July 14, 2012 at 9:32 p.m.
alprova said...

Jack_Dennis wrote: "alprova: Don't be dissing my parents."

If you feel "dissed," it is out of pure guilt. I did not mention one person's name, nor did I have you in mind when I wrote that.

"And don't talk of any "ilk" disrespecting a president. I guess you were in Guam for the 8 years Dubya got ridiculed, skewered, pilloried, etc....not only by those of YOUR ilk, but the press as well. You've got a set, pal."

Look back through the archives Pal. I refer to the man as GWB or Former President Bush. I may have grown to dislike the man, but I have never referred to the man disrespectfully, and I still defend him against unwarranted and unfair attacks.

I am no more responsible or accountable for what the press does or has done, than you are, so it might be a bit more relevant for you to concentrate on personal acts of behavior, rather than lumping individuals into great big groups that you view negatively.

July 14, 2012 at 9:35 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Al, it takes elephant nads for you of all people to talk of lumping individuals into great big groups.

July 14, 2012 at 9:41 p.m.
alprova said...

rick1 wrote: You offered Heritage dot org's list of "damaging taxes" imposed by ObamaCare.

Let's dissect them, one by one.

"Hospital Insurance Tax. Beginning in 2013, Obamacare increases the Hospital Insurance (HI) portion of the payroll tax from 2.9 percent to 3.8 percent for families earning more than $250,000 a year and for single filers earning more than $200,000 annually."

Absolutely false. The term "Hospital Tax" is more widely known as the Medicare Tax. It is nothing new. Currently, salaried employees and the self-employed pay all of the 2.9% Medicare tax assessed income. If you're an employee, 1.45% is withheld from your paychecks, and the other 1.45% is paid by your employer.

Starting in 2013, an extra 0.9% Medicare tax will be deducted/payable from salaried and self-employed income above $200,000 for an unmarried individual, combined salary and/or self-employment income above $250,000 for a married joint-filing couple, or salary and/or self-employment income above $125,000 for those who use married filing separate status.

"The increased HI tax is also applied to investment income for the first time. The 3.8 percent surtax on investment income is the most economically damaging tax in Obamacare."

Economically damaging? How? Long term investment income is taxed at rates between 7% and 20% lower than ordinary and short term investment income. Asking people who receive this type of income to pony up a little more, who have enjoyed immense tax breaks for more than 8 years, still leaves them paying taxes at a rate far below others who actually work for their income.

If, and I do mean if...the Bush tax cuts are allowed to expire at the end of this year, income on dividends, or short-term investments, will be taxed at a higher rate of 43.4%, and then only if someone with short-term income also breaks the $200,000 individual income line, or the married and beyond $250,000 income line.

Not many people will be affected at all, and of course, no one will pay the 43.3% tax rate at all if the Bush tax cuts are extended.

"And these tax increases won’t remain just on families making more than $250,000 a year for long. As the JEC explains, this tax is not indexed to inflation: “This means that in just 10 years from now, the so-called ‘high-income’ thresholds will have effectively ratcheted down to $152,000 and $190,000 in today’s dollars.” This tax increase amounts to $210 billion between 2013 and 2019."

This assumption is nonsense. The thresholds remaining the same, do not "ratchet down" into lower income groups over the coming years.

(To be cont.)

July 14, 2012 at 11:47 p.m.
alprova said...

(cont.)

"Mandate Penalties. In 2014, Obamacare’s individual and employer mandates go into effect, forcing individuals to purchase coverage and employers to offer coverage to their workers. The penalties paid in association with these mandates are an estimated $65 billion between 2014 and 2019."

These penalties or taxes, as they are now known, are completely avoidable and become non-existent by simply complying with the mandate to insure.

"Health Insurance Provider Fee. Starting in 2014, Obamacare imposes an annual fee on health insurance providers based on each company’s share of the total market. This totals a $60 billion tax hike between 2014 and 2019."

Insurance companies are going to thrive as a result of ObamaCare. Who in their right mind disagrees with taxing them a little, based on the amount of customers that they serve?

"“Cadillac” Tax. In 2018, Obamacare puts a new 40 percent excise tax on “Cadillac” health plans, meaning plans that cost more than $10,200 for an individual and $27,500 for families. However, this tax is not indexed to medical inflation, causing it to eventually tax “Honda” plans at this rate as well."

"Medical inflation." Hilarious. The dollar thresholds are indexed by using usual standards of indexing inflation to prevent the tax encroaching into lower priced plans. Employers with higher costs on account of the age or gender demographics of their employees may value their plans using the age and gender demographics of a national risk pool.

"The JEC points out that “[t]he bulk of revenues from the ‘Cadillac’ tax would not be paid by platinum health insurance plans, but rather by employees who are forced to exchange tax-free health insurance benefits for taxable wages after employers reduce or eliminate health insurance.”"

Generous tax credits will more than offset the cost that employers incur for continuing to provide insurance coverage, including those plans priced higher than others.

"Prescription Drug Fees. Since 2011, Obamacare has put an annual fee on manufacturers and importers of branded drugs based on each individual company’s share of the total market. Between 2011 and 2019, this will amount to a $27 billion tax increase."

Big Pharma averages a profit margin of around 16.4% per year. The pharmaceutical industry ranks 7th out 215 industries. The amount they will pay will be a very small slice of the pie that they enjoy currently. So they will have to forgoe buying time on T.V. for one of their annoying commercials every now and then to make up for it. No big loss.

(To be cont.)

July 14, 2012 at 11:53 p.m.
alprova said...

(Cont.)

"Ethanol Tax. In 2010, Obamacare excluded ethanol from the existing cellulosic biofuel producer tax credit. This will hike taxes $24 billion from 2010–2019."

This is a complete lie. The Ethanol tax credit, which has existed for three decades and that exemplifies the poster child of corporate welfare, was allowed to die by Congress, that refused to extend it after much debate, in June of 2011.

"Medical Device Tax. Beginning in 2013, Obamacare imposes a 2.3 percent excise tax on medical device manufacturers. This will raise taxes on patients needing medical devices, who will ultimately pay the tax through higher prices, by $20 billion from 2013 to 2019."

Pretty much the same story as with the pharmaceutial industry. The Medical device manufacturers enjoy immense profits. There's lots of room for them to absorb a little tax increase. And even if they choose to raise their prices, such increases will be paid about 99.9% of the time by insurers, that is if they don't clamp down and refuse to pay more, totally aware of when the provision goes into effect.

July 14, 2012 at 11:53 p.m.
dude_abides said...

I'd like to thank our conservative posters for their clever use of terms like vomit and elephant nads in their serious discussions today!

1988 Republican Convention:

A fired-up Joe Paterno, Penn State football coach, standing on the floor of the Louisiana Superdome with the Pennsylvania delegation to the convention, gave the second of seven seconding speeches. He said the vice president is both a leader and a winner who exudes a "quiet, dignified confidence."

Paterno, who has visited the Superdome before, as the coach of the Penn State team that won its first national championship on the arena's artificial turf in 1982, went on the attack in his seconding speech, challenging those who have mocked Bush in recent weeks.

"I'll be damned if I'll sit still while people who can't carry George Bush's shoes ridicule him," Paterno said, his voice rising as if he was yelling at his football team.

The 61-year-old football legend said he was appearing as an educator. "I believe in quality education on all levels," he said. I'm convinced George Bush will be an education president."

Paterno said Bush shares his feeling of compassion for the millions of young people in inner cities who are robbed of a chance at success in life. LOL !

July 15, 2012 at 12:06 a.m.
raygunz said...

Alprova,I don't believe that you can shovel-out the rightwing crap as fast as they can shovel it in!LOL

But bless you for trying.

July 15, 2012 at 12:30 a.m.
alprova said...

Jack_Dennis wrote: "Al, it takes elephant nads for you of all people to talk of lumping individuals into great big groups"

Wow! Is that all you have to say, after I made it clear to you that I didn't have you in mind when I wrote about people who make it a habit to be disrespectful towards the President?

Notwithstanding your fascination with the size of my "nads," it's becoming clear that your sole purpose and the bulk of your contribution in this forum, is to type one sentence insults towards others.

I'm sure you have your reasons for resorting to such pointless and unproductive mental massaging of your cranial matter, but it's fast approaching a point and time when it may be clear that you are somewhat limited in your ability to interact with other adults.

I am firmly convinced that you sit there on a daily basis with a towel in one hand while pecking one fingered with the other, all the while wiping spit off your chin after posting, because the dookey eating grin that permeates your face prevents you from keeping your saliva where it belongs.

Do you ever listen to someone talking on a radio station and form a mental picture of what they look like, based strictly on the sound of their voice? Of course you do. Do you remember how shocked you are every time you find out what they really look like?

I have a little hobby of forming a picture in my head of someone after reading posts from people over long periods of time. Here's the image that comes to mind whenever I read one of your posts.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lNKEPV3LK6A/T9eI67pbotI/AAAAAAAATzY/hhZyMzFDH4U/s1600/what-is-an-internet-troll.jpeg

July 15, 2012 at 1:15 a.m.
rick1 said...

Al, in your response to te link from the Heritage Foundation you either agreed thee were going to be tax increases and it was no big deal companies pharmaceutial industry and medical device companies because the make big profits already. Really Al do you believe this will not get passed down to consumers. When you owned your own business and the taxes were raised did you not raise your prioces? Just like the tax on those making over $250,000 taxes are increasing under ObamaCare.

July 15, 2012 at 8:27 a.m.
alprova said...

rick1 wrote: "Al, in your response to te link from the Heritage Foundation you either agreed thee were going to be tax increases and it was no big deal companies pharmaceutial industry and medical device companies because the make big profits already."

Sort of, but okay...

"Really Al do you believe this will not get passed down to consumers."

Not really.

"When you owned your own business and the taxes were raised did you not raise your prioces?"

Nope. My businesses were and are such that I have ample opportunity to make a very decent profit on a sale. I do not sit around and worry or add up any increase in taxes, insurance, business license boosts, etc. I pay them and move on.

Don't tell anyone, but people who are in business know to manipulate their yearly income tax filings to offset anything at all that threatens to cause them to pay more in taxes.

I'm always glad to pay more if I have more income coming in, but in cases where that does not happen, I am equally happy to pad offsets to income to keep things where they need to be. I've been through several IRS audits and I have never had a thing thrown out.

July 15, 2012 at 7:32 p.m.
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