published Wednesday, September 5th, 2012

5-at-10: Mocs' quarterback, Musburger and AFC predictions

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    UTC sophomore quarterback Terrell Robinson, shown talking to a young fan during the annual Meet the Mocs preseason session, quit the team Tuesday.
    Photo by Alyson Wright /Chattanooga Times Free Press.

Mocs have a QB1

And with Terrell Robinson's decision to leave the UTC football team, any more debate about the two-quarterback system is as pertinent as what the wives of candidates have to say. (Side note: Do we really think Michelle Obama or Who'sherpants Romney are going to get up and say, "Well, we think he's going to be/was a good President, but he leaves the seat up and he stays out too long watching football with his boys." Actually, that would be better. Secondly, who came up with the idea to call the Vice President's wife "the second lady" and if a woman becomes V.P. would her husband be the "second man?")

Here is our UTC football ace John Frierson's report http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2012/sep/05/robinson-quits-mocs/ from yesterday's events. A quick note of public praise for our ace Frierson/Ned Ryerson: He had already spoken with several Mocs and coach Russ Huesman twice before the start of practice and apparently before the events with Robinson unfolded. It could have been easy for John to have called it a day — he had plenty for today's paper already. Still, he went to practice and noticed Robinson was not there and broke the story. Well-played indeed.

As for the Mocs, their depth at quarterback certainly takes a hit — something that could become an issue considering the spread, QB-running attack they use. In fact, the unofficial depth chart could be Huesman, Nichols and shoots and giggles. Maybe third string would be Zach Rayl, the Mocs defensive lineman who was an all-state quarterback at McMinn Central.

As for Robinson, it appears the family had some frustration about sharing reps and was concerned about competing against the coach's son. OK.

This despite the fact that Robinson started the game last Saturday and was listed atop the depth chart at Tuesday's media session. Plus, this situation didn't just developed Sunday morning — it's been this way since the start of spring. And, how telling is it that one game into a fight for the job, some things do not go Robinson's way and he packs his bags?

The puzzling thing is this seems so out of character for Robinson, a good student who was a warrior at South Pittsburg High School and was SoCon co-Freshman of the Year in 2011. But it is where the Mocs find themselves this morning; their QB decision made by the choices of the choices.

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Upon further review

Apparently, ABC used the censor on Brent Musburger during Alabama's Saturday night beatdown of Michigan. Musburger and Kirk Herbstreit were discussing national title picks, and Herbie did not choose an SEC team.

Musburger replied with: "Did I miss something, or did you not piss an SEC team to play for a national championship?" He obviously meant to say "pick" rather than the four-letter version of urinate. Afterward, Musburger called it a "slip."

That said, the bleeped moment made the mistake much worse, considering it could have been any number of other four-letter words. Remember kids to piss your words carefully. Wait...

Plus, if we're going to start bleeping out the bad announcing from Brent Musburger — and we probably should seriously consider it — every ABC primetime broadcast will sound like an EBS test pattern, interrupted occasionally by Herbstreit.

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NFL predictions

We picked the NFC stuff here http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2012/sep/04/5-10-green-mile-go-week-2-kickoff/?sportsColumns. Today, we'll pick the AFC. Deal? Deal.

Division winners: Patriots, Ravens, Texans, Raiders

Wildcards: Steelers, Broncos

AFC player of the year: Tom Brady, Patriots

AFC defensive player of the year: Halotti Ngata, Ravens (he won't win any awards because he's a nose tackle, but dude is a B-E-A-S-T)

AFC offensive rookie of the year: Andrew Luck, Colts

AFC defensive rookie of the year: Dont'a Hightower, Patriots

Bonus pick: If he plays 14-plus games, is there any way Peyton Manning is not the comeback player of the year?

First round of playoffs: Steelers over Raiders; Broncos over Texans

Second round: Patriots over Broncos; Steelers over Ravens

AFC title game: Patriots over Steelers

Feel free to discuss.

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This and that

— Gang, Public Service Announcement coming: The NFL starts tonight, if you have any Giants or Cowboys on your fantasy teams, adjust accordingly.

— Davis Love picked Dustin Johnson, Jim Furyk, Steve Stricker and Brandt Snedeker as his captain choices for the Ryder Cup. We're OK with that. We suggested Rickie Fowler over Johnson on Tuesday, but as FE to the C noted Fowler has been more hacker than hunter in the last six weeks.

— Penn State has reported spending more than $17 million so far in the Jerry Sandusky saga. Gang, they'll be luck if there are not a couple of zeros added on that total before it's all said and done.

— The Braves got blanked by the Rockies last night. It happens.

— Alabama is No. 1 in the polls. Which means the voters actually watched Alabama play.

— The Honey Badger is back at LSU. Here's our blurb from the SEC rankings and rantings we do every Wednesday in the TFP — "The Honey Badger will take the LSU classes that he wants. Tyrann Mathieu -- a Heisman finalist last year who earned the Honey Badger nickname -- was booted from the Tigers football team last month. Instead of transferring, Mathieu has enrolled in classes at LSU. Tigers coach Les Miles was evasive Tuesday when asked if Mathieu could return after the season. Everyone knows Miles will take the Honey Badger back if he wants." Read the rest here http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2012/sep/05/sept-5-sec-football-rantingsrankings/.

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Today's question

Free style Wednesday.

Bring it or forever hold your peace.

Need a starting point... OK.... Try this:

What's the best college football game on the board this weekend? We're quite intrigued by Florida going to Texas A&M. We also are a little surprised that Auburn is getting points from Mississippi State. And Georgia better be ready to play.

Or, how about... "Biggest NFL storyline this fall is..."

Discuss, and how boss would it be if the Ryder Cup singles finale was Woods-McIlroy with things coming down to the wire? Wow, that would be pretty awesome.

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JonathanMCook said...

5:28PM CT

That was the time my mother called to let me know T-Rob had left the team. I had not seen anything on the Internet prior until then (I was watching a film on YouTube [not cats] at the time my cel phone rang).

Speechless was beyond my comprehension. I knew Jacob pretty much earned the starting spot with his performance at USF but to say T-Rob was not a vital component of the team was just ludicrous! To add fuel to the fire did he not think that when he left that the local media would not want answers? I agree with what you wrote and what Frierson hinted on his Tweeter account, there is definitely more to this than what is being imagined. I actually tuned into Newschannel 9 last night via streaming video in hopes for some updates and Daryll Paterson pretty much had nothing than what had already been reported. Needless to say, SportTalk will be interesting.

I don't believe this will effect the JSU game on Saturday but it will be interesting to see how well the offense chemistry will be effective in the long run.

September 5, 2012 at 10:38 a.m.
chas9 said...

Appreciate your kudos for Ace Ryerson. These days it's hard for newspapers to have boots on the ground and the TFP is ahead of the curve. As for the QB defection, it seems our culture (well beyond sports) is getting away from team play.

Seriously bad move to bleep "piss." Do you know the King James Bible uses the word? Seriously.

Biggest story lines for me, reflecting a local bias, are how well Peyton does and how well the Falcons do (see The Weed's column yesterday). Yesterday Pete Prisco issued his pre-season NFL rankings (for what that's worth). He has Atlanta at #5 and Nashville's cats at #23. Sound right? BJ's team is #1.

September 5, 2012 at 10:45 a.m.
ordinaryguy said...

Was indeed sad to hear of Robinson's diva act...more proof of the ever present ME and not the team concept sweeping younger athletes...remember one thing however, even though it was just the spring game...Nichols has been the MVP in the last two...just some food for thought...

Let us always remember which Manning is a WINNER, and it sure isn't Peyton (can you say TWO Lombardi Trophys for little bro)...say what you will Eli wins big games...more often than not Peyton doesn't! That is evidenced by his losing record in the playoff...

September 5, 2012 at 11:07 a.m.
Huesmania said...

Winners never quit and quitters never win. So, let's go Mocs-that-want-to-be-Mocs.

September 5, 2012 at 11:10 a.m.
fechancellor said...

Ten Ring, I has no personal animosity against Fowler. Hell, he's good for the game. About his game, can some of his meltdown be attributed to trying to make the Ryder Cup side? Either way, this young and very exciting player needs some help tightening up what has become a loose swing, or it might be a job for a sports psychologist to tighten up his mind.

Bama #1? That's in the vault until some team can break in there.

As for the AFC, you have the Raiders as division champs. I have to agree there are lots of chumps in the AFC West. I need to see a couple of games before concurring with your bold choice. I need to see if the "Commitment to Excellence" once again extends to discipline in subduing the self-inflicted wounds such as penalties that stop drives or extends drives for opponents.

Darren McFadden is the key, but this year he'll have to play the whole year. His rewards: All Pro, All AFC and a shot sharing comeback player of the year honors with Payton.

Got a book here you might like. It's Teddy's Chief of staff holding forth on Teddy's womanizing, drug use and alchol addiction. Teddy at home naked sharing the family hot tub with an equally bare Joan Baez. It's now five minutes after wriring that line and my eyesight has returned. "The Senator" by Richard E. Burke.

September 5, 2012 at 11:19 a.m.
JonathanMCook said...

Forgot to add-on that I am looking forward to tonight's game with the "local" team vs. the Giants and Florida's match-up against A&M. I never rooted for the Aggies on anything but given the fact they are the new tranfer kids I want to see how they stack-up against the stronger of the two SEC halves.

Interesting selection for the AFL playoff pics. Yesterday's DMN had a brief article where one of the sports writers picked the Texans to possibly make it to the championship game. I won't go into technical details but Wade Phillip's defense will play the key role.

September 5, 2012 at 11:26 a.m.
jomo11 said...

I hate this about T-Robb, If his family was pushing him for this choice, maybe cooler heads will prevail and they will re-think this rash choice. i am sure there is still a window for T-Robb to come back . . . .

Jay- what are your thoughts on Jax St. game, match-ups, etc ?

September 5, 2012 at 11:28 a.m.
jgreeson said...

Run JMC —

We thought about you after Ned Ryerson broke the news.

This is the type of thing that can either unite a team and lead to big-time things or chip away at its core. We believed there a was a pretty good argument to be made that Saturday was the biggest game of the year for Johnny Mocs Fans everywhere. Now we're pretty sure of it.

9er —

Thanks for noticing. Seriously. We take pride in how much local stuff we do at the TFP sports section and how well we do it. Tip of the Cap to Needle-Nose Ned.

We see the Falcons right at the top 5. And definitely see the Pack as No. 1. Titans could be a fringe wildcard team, could be a fringe No. 1 overall draft pick team.

OG —

We have to believe that Terrell is getting some bad advise. Because he was the exact opposite of a diva at Spitt and seemed like the opposite of one last year and all preseason. So it goes.

Huesmania —

Welcome to the show. Feel free to swing by anytime.

And there's 100 percent truth in your words when it comes to football. If you can't look into someone's eyes in the huddle and know they are 100 percent on board, then a tough situation can become untenable. Especially for the quarterback.

FE to the C —

100 percent agree on Darren McFadden being the key, but he was so money at Arkansas — the best college running back since Bo Jackson in our mind — that if he can stay healthy, he could make a push for big-time honors.

We think the Raiders are going to score some points this year.

— 5-at-10

September 5, 2012 at 11:38 a.m.
jgreeson said...

Run JMC —

The phrase "Wade Phillips" and "playing a key role" should only be linked if we're looking for reasons the Golden Corral buffet has run out popcorn shrimp. Side note: How about that Golden Corral? Already a haven for heavy folks, the GC now offers cotton candy. Cotton flippin' candy. Yes, that's what a heavy U.S. of Fat A needs. What's next, funnel cake? Want to know what Brent Musburger would say about this? "That (bleeps) me off."

Jomo —

You bring up a fair point. Maybe there is a chance to save this thing, but not likely at QB. You want a guy calling the offense that when the chips are down he may pack the gear and call it a day? Didn't think so.

As for the JSU-UTC matchups, we'll break it down Friday in the mailbag. Deal? Deal. Know this, though: UTC is going to need a big-time defensive effort.

— 5-at-10

September 5, 2012 at 11:45 a.m.
jgreeson said...

From friend of the show StuckinKent —

Five college football games I'm most excited about this weekend:

1) Georgia at Missouri- Missouri's lines aren't big. Georgia's defense is average at best. How does Mizzou respond in an amped up, first home game in the SEC environment? 2) Florida at Texas A&M- Florida looked terrible on offense. Will Texas A&M provide them an opportunity to get well? Everything is new for the Aggies this year (conference, coach, quarterback), so that makes this one tough to predict. 3) Washington at LSU- How much will LSU's secondary be hurting without Honey Badger? We find out here, as UW will throw it all over the field. Remember WVU threw for over 400 yards on them last year. UW could do the same. WVU lost by three scores. UW could do the same. 4) Auburn at Mississippi State- An SEC West showdown. Huge for both teams. Winner keeps hopes alive for great season. Loser begins to have real doubts. Doesn't get much bigger than this. 5) Nebraska at UCLA- The Huskers and Bruins both looked very good last weekend. Nebraska looked like a darkhorse national title contender, even without Burkhead. Will the Bruins just discovered offensive prowess continue? Very compelling game.

Finally- you feeling a little bit down today? Let me walk you back from the ledge. Auburn is NOT the 12th best team in the SEC. They just lost by a touchdown to the second best ACC team. That puts them in the middle of the pack of the SEC, not the bottom third. Come on back. Auburn should be fine. Last week 6th, this week 12th? Sounds like you might need another sip of the kool-aid.

September 5, 2012 at 11:47 a.m.
Todd962 said...

Biggest games this weekend have to be the debut of the former Big 12 teams into SEC play. Both matchups will hopefully be pretty even. A part of me wants to see the SEC teams show the newbies whats up, but a larger part of me wants to see Florida get a mud hole stomped in their behinds. But then Tennessee's S.O.S. will be less after they stomp the mud hole in Florida the next week. Ugh....internal conflict.

I think the biggest shocker in the NFL this year will be when someone finally knocks Peyton's helmet off and his head is still inside. How are they going to fix his neck then? Lets hope this premonition doesnt come to fruition cause I love his commercials despite the fact that he didnt come to the Titans. I thought we were boys Peyton...betrayal.

The event of the century comes November 3rd. This event took place last year on November 5th when LSU played at Alabama and it was deemed the greatest game to ever take place in this galaxy. This year has been taken up a notch with Alabama playing at LSU and Oregon playing USC the same day. I think my brain just melted down into my spine. Football sensory overload.

September 5, 2012 at 11:52 a.m.
Todd962 said...

And since its Free-Style Wednesday. This one is for Senor Greeson. An Alabama fan and an Auburn fan are walking through a field together one day when they stumble upon a sheep with its head stuck in the fence. The Alabama fan looks around to see if anyone is watching and proceeds to step up and have his way with the sheep. Following, he turns to the Auburn fan and tells him its his turn. The Auburn fan looks at him in shock and protests, "No way, what if people find out." The Alabama fan assures him no one will find out and that it wasnt a big deal anyway. So finally the Auburn fan hesitantly looks around to see if anyone is watching and proceeds to step up and stick his head in the fence.

September 5, 2012 at 11:52 a.m.
chas9 said...

It's too easy to kick Kentucky while it's down, which is to say most of the time. But did you see the way they executed the on-sides kick Sunday? One of the prettiest ever. Looks like they have a good kicking game. And a much improved passing game. But they need a line (OK, two lines) full of Green Mile big guys.

Speaking of which, though MCD looked like a lineman lately, he was a skinny 6'4" walk-on basketball forward with a killer smile at Alcorn State for one season. I was surprised to read that. He looked at least seven feet tall. Wonder if there are any pix of him next to Pee-wee Cruise.

September 5, 2012 at 11:53 a.m.
BIspy4 said...

If it comes down to Rory-Tiger for a singles finale, DL3 better hope it doesn't come down to putting. How fast will Phil fold in his singles match?

Love the Patriots pick. I think they're still picked off about losing in the Super Bowl.

Mizzou and Georgia is a very intriguing matchup. But is there pressure on Florida State to roll up a Nintendo like score on hapless Savannah State?

Biggest storyline of the NFL? Wait until a replacement ref blows a call late that costs someone a game.

September 5, 2012 at 12:06 p.m.
jgreeson said...

Stuck —

AUburn-Mississippi State is huge for both teams for exactly the reasons you listed. Vandy has a huge game at Morthwestern this weekend, too.

And we're not anti-Aubiurn or even off the Chizik Bandwagon. There is so much unknown after the first week, we just listed the teams that were unbeaten ahead of those that had lost. That explains the Tigers' drop from 6-to-12.

962 —

We love Peyton's commercials, too. But if his head comes off Sunday night against the Steelers — and really, a guy has four neck operations and his first game back is against Dick LeBeau... how is that fair — and it's rolling around on the field, you think the erstwhile commercial stud that is Peyton will look at the camera and say, "Man, nothing a Goody's Powder can't fix."

As for your story... THAT never happened. We don't care who you talked to. NEVER.

9er —

Hey you get world-class props during hoops season so you take some shots during football. Would you trade the success rates for those two sports?

And that's the thing in Hollywood — everyone's like 5-7. So when someone like M-C-D or Arnold or someone bigger than 6-3 comes along they look Andre the Giant. At 6-4, 220, the 5-at-10 would look like Shaq in Hollywood.

Spy —

Pats stilled "picked off"... We see what you did there and we like it. Well-played indeed.

And hey, the Pats are going to be fun to watch this year. After stock piling more young defensive studs than a Judge Judy marathon, Belichick may actually have a little fun coaching this year. Not that that means he'll smile mind you, but still.

The closer we get to the UGA-Missouri game the more we like the Dogs.

— 5-at-10

September 5, 2012 at 12:36 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

Folks, you still can't sneak an inside fastball by 5. He'll still turn on it and drive it.

September 5, 2012 at 12:51 p.m.
JonathanMCook said...

jgreeson wrote-

"The phrase "Wade Phillips" and "playing a key role" should only be linked if we're looking for reasons the Golden Corral buffet has run out popcorn shrimp."

Kinda sad if it weren't true. In defense, I was simply paraphrasing what the writer wrote. Mainly the fact that when Wade is in "environment" i.e. defense coordinator, he tends to be more productive. In this case making the Texan's defense go from the bottom of the NFL dogpile to near the top of the heap (again paraphrasing said article).

You're right though, he was definitely NOT head coach material which was brought up profusely during his time here in the Big D.

I like some of the thoughts regarding T-Robs departure but I'm still having a hard-time swallowing the whole "It's all about me" concept. He's no TO or Dez so I'm leaning towards confidence (i.e. You want a guy calling the offense that when the chips are down he may pack the gear and call it a day? Didn't think so.)

P.S. You couldn't pay me enough to eat at Golden Corral.

September 5, 2012 at 12:54 p.m.
sportsfan said...

Jay - I know that the 5 at 10 doesn't deal with hypothetical situations very often, but for the Friday mailbag...If Mizzou beats Georgia on Saturday evening, does that put Richt on the hot seat by the Dawg Nation? I know in the SEC a coach is only as good as his last win, and effort doesn't replace results, but with expectations high for the red and black, an early loss might wear thin with the fan base. Thanks and I'll look forward to your response.

September 5, 2012 at 1:02 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

In the defensive coaches room at the GSU football offices, Terrell Robinson's decision to quit UTC was met with a collective "whew!" No knock on the others there but come on. That's just flabbergasting.

September 5, 2012 at 1:17 p.m.
Stewwie said...

Very shocked to read of T-Rob's decision. A casual fan only knows what he sees (and reads), but I felt like he and Huesman had gotten a fair shake. It will be interesting to see what new details (if any) come out in the days and weeks ahead in regard to this.

I think the timing of his decision to leave the team is what is most befuddling. Now he'll have to sit out 2 years if he transfers to another FCS program, right? If he didn't like the way things were going, I wish he had stuck it out for the rest of the season anyway. Not with a bad attitude, of course, but with the intention of trying to get better and making the most of the opportunity...even if it meant lining up at WR more times than not while Huesman took snaps under center.

No need to push the panic button because I think Huesman has done a great job thus far with this offense. He looked good in the spring, he looked good in preseason scrimmages, and he did fine this past Saturday. Let's be fair though...the Mocs play in the SEC of the FCS, and because of such, Huesman will have his bad days along with the good ones. He is only a freshman, but I think he will end up being a pretty darn good player for the Mocs.

September 5, 2012 at 1:19 p.m.
Shock said...

Your AFC West prediction is terrible! The Faiders are the LEAST likely team in that division to the win the west. And God spare me from all these Peyton worshipers suddenly becoming Donkeys fans.

Sincerely,

A lifelong Chiefs fan

September 5, 2012 at 1:39 p.m.
ordinaryguy said...

Well said Shock!...those that worship at the altar of Saint Peyton, do so with very little common sense...Did he win a national championship at Clorox Orange town? NO! Does he have a winning record in the NFL playoffs? NO!

September 5, 2012 at 4:04 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

OK, 5, couple of things y'all need to fix from the latest Fast Forward. 1) Stephen's audio. Sounds like he's talking in a bathroom. 2) Stephen's shirt. Looked like something you'd find in a bathroom, after a very long night (I kid, I kid ... not really.)

September 5, 2012 at 4:47 p.m.
WHS1970 said...

Does Peyton have a winning Super Bowl Ring??? YES!

September 5, 2012 at 10:23 p.m.
Samcro said...

I saw Trob play several games at South Pitt and UTC. Never saw a Diva but I could be wrong. Of course anyone at this paper is not going to go against UTC because of the need for future interviews. Also there is no way you wouldn't support a former student at the prestigious Baylor school over a Local kid from a mere public school not even in Hamilton County. Wouldn't want to upset the mountain folk around here would we? Just take any week in particular and count mentions of Baylor in the sports page compared to mentions of all other area high schools combined.

September 6, 2012 at 7:01 a.m.
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