published Thursday, September 6th, 2012

Definitely!

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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miraweb said...

Ah . . . brilliant! I tip my hat, sir.

September 6, 2012 at 12:06 a.m.
David_Franks said...

"Republicans don't have to accept evolution, economics, climatology, or human sexuality, but I just watched a week of their national convention, and I need them to admit the historical existence of George W. Bush. If your party can run the nation for eight years and then have a national convention and not invite Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Colin Powell, Karl Rove, or Tom DeLay, you're not a political movement, you're the witness protection program." --Bill Maher

At least if they had invited Bush to the RNC, somebody could have helped him to hold the sign correctly.

September 6, 2012 at 12:11 a.m.
MasterBlaster said...

Cue the reich-wing mewling... C'mon guys, don't let us down! You're our comic relief and you never seem to disappoint with your inane blathing! Don't hold back now...

September 6, 2012 at 12:15 a.m.
alprova said...

Hoo boy!! I can hear them growling now.

September 6, 2012 at 12:31 a.m.
Yossarian25 said...

faeces about to fling from the usual troll suspects, in... five... four... three.. two...

September 6, 2012 at 1:51 a.m.
NGAdad said...

So tu, here we are all alone in the middle of the night and you are talking about an@l this and that. Heck why not, you already condoned rape. Good job. Oh, speaking about the Bush team of yore ... who was that male prostitute turned faux reporter who visited Carl Rove dozens of times. Somebody? Anybody?

September 6, 2012 at 2:33 a.m.
Easy123 said...

"Booing God on national T.V. ... Really?!?!?"

No, not really.

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/the_rumble/2012/09/no-nobody-booed-god-or-jerusalem

"You don't have to be a player on the God team to know that was Bat Shat crazy."

You would have to be "bat shat crazy" to actually believe the lies that you spew.

"Good job Libtard Loons."

Lame attempt at more lies, dipstick.

"Bend over and grab your ankles Libtards you're getting ready to be driven home."

Your constant inferences to penises and sex (including rape and molestation) would lead any thinking person to believe you are either sexually frustrated or a sexual deviant. Which is it, sTUpid? I guess it could be both. That would explain a lot! LMAO!

September 6, 2012 at 3:10 a.m.
AndrewLohr said...

Karl, not "Carl."

Do you tip it upside down?

Bush was too liberal--a big spending, big government President--but, since he was less liberal than President Obama, after four years he hadn't done much harm; people were about as well off as they had been four years earlier. The economic slide started after the Democrats won Congress in '06. Most of such improvement as there is has come since the Tea Party + GOP won the House in '10.

Though I speak with the eloquence of Obama and Hillary, and have not love, I have become like horns in a traffic jam, and like jackhammers outside the window--paraphrased from I Corinthians 13:1. / It's one thing for a doctor to tell a patient, You're very ill; you need to radically change your lifestyle. That can be love. It's another to call the patient You disgusting reptile (or worse names). That shows lack of love. When liberals do it, it shows that liberalism's claim to be compassionate is bogus. That liberalism is generous with other people's money instead of its own shows the same. That liberalism fails in practice, from "Losing Ground" to President Obama, shows the same; love needs to attend to reality. That liberalism makes promises it cannot pay for, and buries the future in debt, shows the same. When conservatives do it, ditto. Why live down to liberal standards?

September 6, 2012 at 3:29 a.m.
NGAdad said...

Yeah Andy, you are who I turn to for biblical interpretation, not.

Yes I agree with Easy, both and Tu upid.

September 6, 2012 at 3:40 a.m.
cactus said...

Some people say a man is made outta mud A poor man's made outta muscle and blood Muscle and blood and skin and bones A mind that's a-weak and a back that's strong You load sixteen trillion, what do you get Another day older and deeper in debt Saint Peter don't you call me 'cause I can't go I owe my soul to the government store I was born one mornin' when the sun didn't shine I picked up my shovel and I walked to the mine I loaded sixteen trillion of government debt And the straw boss said "Well, a-bless my soul" You load sixteen trillion, what do you get Another day older and deeper in debt Saint Peter don't you call me 'cause I can't go I owe my soul to the government store I was born one mornin', it was drizzlin' rain Fightin' and trouble are my middle name I was raised in the canebrake by an ol' mama lion Cain't no-a high-toned woman make me walk the line You load sixteen trillion, what do you get Another day older and deeper in debt Saint Peter don't you call me 'cause I can't go I owe my soul to the government store If you see me comin', better step aside A lotta men didn't, a lotta men died One fist of iron, the other of steel If the right one don't a-get you Then the left one will You load sixteen trillion, what do you get Another day older and deeper in debt Saint Peter don't you call me 'cause I can't go I owe my soul to the government store

September 6, 2012 at 5:51 a.m.
EaTn said...

Look closely and you will see the strings dangling from the puppeteer Dick Cheney's hand, and listen carefully and you will hear the voice of Karl Rove. About the most memorable event and summary from Bush's regime was his comment "Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job".

September 6, 2012 at 7:26 a.m.
Reardon said...

Yawn...

Bush was a liberal.

September 6, 2012 at 7:29 a.m.
moon4kat said...

Another good one, Clay.
It's hilarious that the GOP seems to have amnesia about the disastrous years of George W. Bush's administration. Or, maybe they don't.
They remember; that's why Bush wasn't invited to - and barely even mentioned during - the GOP convention. But, they sure hope WE all forget the devastating wreckage Bush left for President Obama to clean up.
Bush took 8 years to break the economy and run up trillions in debt, and the GOP wing-nuts whine that Obama hasn't fixed it in 4 . . . while they obstruct everything he does.

September 6, 2012 at 7:57 a.m.
EaTn said...

Bush was a liberal-- not. Bush represented the worst of conservatism-- deception, greedy special-interest government wasteful spending, handouts to the rich and claiming family values while pushing the middle-class family further down into poverty. The fact that we've survived after his eight years is a tribute to Obama.

September 6, 2012 at 8:01 a.m.
joneses said...

What I find so hypcritical is the dummycrats are having Bill Clinton as their keynote speaker. Everyone knows he has been disbarred, impeached and has shown more disrespect for women than Ted Bundy. Is this all they have, a person who lied to a federal jusge and got caught? Maybe he will be smoking that cigar that he and Monica Lewinsky had so much fun with.

September 6, 2012 at 8:07 a.m.
alprova said...

Bush was a liberal?

Wasn't he the man who wanted to privatize Social Security?

Wasn't he the man who wanted to eliminate welfare completely and turn over support of the poor to Churches?

Wasn't he the man who did a war cry in front of the nation and led us into two very expensive wars, one waged to get the man who took a pot-shot at his Pop, and the other to run down the mastermind of 9/11?

Wasn't he the man who masterminded the Patriot Act, the man who authorized waterboarding and other methods of torturing of detainess of war, contrary to this nation's system of justice?

And finally, wasn't he the man who stood in front of a nation and proclaimed victory for seniors when he signed legislation that added a much needed prescription program to Medicare, that more often than not, only paid for medications for a few months out of any given year?

George Walker Bush may be many things, but he was hardly a liberal.

But then, the Republican Party of the 1990's has been hijacked by far-right wing extremists who make that statement appear to be true.

The Republican Party may be actively distancing themselves from the man, which is quite humorous when you think about it, for as dangerous as GWB's line of thinking was for this country, the two men running on the Republican ticket for the top spots in Washington are five times more dangerous.

September 6, 2012 at 8:08 a.m.
fairmon said...

I am better off than I was 4 years ago, better off than 8 years ago, better off than 12 years ago, better off than 16 and 20 years ago. I don't want or need anything you have and I don't owe you anything nor do I have any obligation to support you in any way. The constitution defines what a federal government is obligated to do and if limited to those and those things are done well everyone would be better off. I don't care if Cheney said the debt doesn't matter, he is full of crap, it does matter. Funding our excesses at the expense of future generations simply is not right. This is the most selfish generation in history, demanding the government be all for all but wanting someone else to pay for it. The best budget proposal from either side still has the debt growing to around 26 trillion in a few years and you know those kind of estimates are always low. The flying nun and the wanna be from Mass. that talked only emphasized how the government should do more with neither saying how all those wants would be paid for.

Yes, we are our brothers keeper and there are ample non government ways to do that for those unable to do for themselves. Children, the elderly and truly disabled should be provided for without a bloated self serving inefficient bankrupt federal government being involved.

September 6, 2012 at 8:12 a.m.
degage said...

so the DNC felt it was nessesary to put God back into their platform. I laughed so hard at how they did it. The no's were louder than the yes's but that didn't stop the DNC overriding them and declaring it passed by 2/3 rds. Really ticked off many delegates.

Have you heard the latest, bed bugs are in 9 hotels where delegates are staying. some really uncomfortable delegates.

September 6, 2012 at 8:21 a.m.
joneses said...

alprova the pussy accused me of being a racist but when I told him the black people that I hold in high regard such as Condoleeze Rice, Kevin Jackson, Walter Williams, Herman Cain Thomas Sowell he made a week argument of how when we are accused of racism we mention the blacks we support. Alpussy has showed what a complete dumb ass he really is and is nothing but a race baiting liar. alprova the pussy thinks that if you disagree with a black person he supports you are a racist. What an idiot. Alprova the pussy also said I altered a report on the dummycrats claim that Hussein Obama has not created over 4 million jobs. I did not alter anything but because this article by the liberal news network CNN is not supportive of a dummycrat lie alprova the pussy beilieves alpussy has to lie about it. See the article below. This is proof that alprova the pussy is a liar and will not stop at anything to be dishonest. He is a pathetic excuse for a human being. Alprova the pussy actually thinks the FBI has a file on me an inch thick becuase of my opposing the failures of Hussein Obama. That is how rediculous and absurd alprova the pussy actually is. I hope alprova the pussy keeps lying as he is the best thing for the Republican Party as no one is so stupid to believe anything he says. What a looser.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/fact-check-4-5-million-jobs-created-under-175621036--election.html

September 6, 2012 at 8:21 a.m.
Easy123 said...

Joneses,

Did you name your cat Alprova?

And by the way, just because you type "pussy" a lot doesn't mean you'll actually get any.

Alprova really got all up in your junk! The old Joneses back to discredit himself some more!

September 6, 2012 at 8:32 a.m.
fairmon said...

It is too bad slick Willie can't run again. He is the smartest and most political savvy in either party. He does not like Obama and he knows he just handed the republicans the cannon they needed to blow him away if they are smart enough to use it, which is doubtful. He is in a winner either way.

September 6, 2012 at 8:34 a.m.
ITguy said...

The stupidest thing that the Republicans did at their convention was to ask the question "Are you better off than you were four years ago?". It was dumber than the lies that they told. It was dumber than the Clint Eastwood speech. It reminded us all of George Bush and the terrible mess that we were in at the end of his term. The resounding answer to the question is Hell Yes we are better off than we were four years ago. Thank you very much.

September 6, 2012 at 8:39 a.m.
whatsnottaken said...

If being run by a publicity seeking kenyan and his wife makes us better off, then heck ya. Economy wise, nope. Crime wise, nope. Morally wise, nope. Militarily, nope ... and so on and so on.

September 6, 2012 at 8:47 a.m.
moon4kat said...

ITguy, Yes! You're so right (as in correct, not like a wing-nut). We are much better off than 4 years ago when we faced full-fledged economic collapse. Obama saved us from falling over the brink. Has he been able to fix everything (in the face of rabid Republican obstructionism)? No, but he's gotten the car away from the cliff that Bush drove two wheels over. Repairing all of the damage will take a little longer.

September 6, 2012 at 8:48 a.m.
degage said...

Planed Parenthood held a 'sex,politics,coctails party' for invited guest only consisting of some candidates they support and others. Our tax dollars at work. If they are going to spend money for political adgenda we need to defund them.

September 6, 2012 at 9:11 a.m.
hotdiggity said...

joneses you have to be the most boring, long winded, bloviating individual who has ever posted on this board. Your attempts to articulate an argument remind me of the ramblings of George Bush. The good news for you is that you will have four more years of delusional whining when Obama is reelected.

I am surprised that alprova has not quoted Shakespeare when debating with you...

"I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but I see you are unarmed". - William Shakespeare

Or perhaps this...

"You speak an infinite deal of nothing". - William Shakespeare

September 6, 2012 at 9:17 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

hotdiggity said joneses you have to be the most boring, long winded, bloviating individual who has ever posted on this board. No Diggity, that would be Alpo....by a mile.

September 6, 2012 at 9:24 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

OBAMA ADVISORS DON'T EXPECT BIG BOUNCE IN POLLS

"Plouffe says Americans will have a clear sense of where Obama thinks the country should go after his speech Thursday night ".

Didn't Obama have four years to tell us where he wants to take the country?

Alpo and the rest of the liberals here seem to be the only ones expecting a "big bounce".

September 6, 2012 at 9:24 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

Obama buttons appear at DNC: "Once you had black, you never go back". Is it really true alpo?

September 6, 2012 at 9:28 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

I must admit to being undecided. My vote hangs on what Eva Longoria has to say. bwahahahahaha

September 6, 2012 at 9:30 a.m.
raygunz said...

Bush was a liberal.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Alternate universe anyone??

September 6, 2012 at 9:49 a.m.
mymy said...

NGAdad

Be careful what you say. The Democrate's have Barney Frank. Better do a little research about his boyfriend and what he did!

September 6, 2012 at 9:53 a.m.
jen1972 said...

"A man must be both stupid and uncharitable who believes there is no virtue or truth but on his own side." ~Joseph Addison

Yes, that's pointed at you.

September 6, 2012 at 10:01 a.m.
mymy said...

61 Days to Go!

It is still the economy/jobs/direction of country, etc.

Tick, Tock, Tick, Tock!

The Dim Convention has turned into a disorganized “Comedy Hours Show”.

How desperate they are trying to convince the base to stick with them.

Big Government Sugar Daddy going to take care of you!

The Liberals have done more to destroy society and eventually this country. Obama has put us in a faster tail spin downward, but just needs more time for his destructive changes to work, Moochelle begs!

September 6, 2012 at 10:10 a.m.
mymy said...

61 Days to Go!

It is still the economy/jobs/direction of country, etc.

Tick, Tock, Tick, Tock!

The Dim Convention has turned into a disorganized “Comedy Hours Show”.

How desperate they are trying to convince the base to stick with them.

Big Government Sugar Daddy going to take care of you!

The Liberals have done more to destroy society and eventually this country. Obama has put us in a faster tail spin downward, but just needs more time for his destructive changes to work, Moochelle begs!

September 6, 2012 at 10:10 a.m.
alprova said...

joneses wroter: "alprova the pussy accused me of being a racist but when I told him the black people that I hold in high regard such as Condoleeze Rice, Kevin Jackson, Walter Williams, Herman Cain Thomas Sowell he made a week argument of how when we are accused of racism we mention the blacks we support."

Do you think for one second that your sudden declaration and admiration of some black people, begins to prove a doggone thing?

You don't respect anyone but yourself. You're anti-social to an extreme. You are an angry white man and you are and have been upset since day one that a black man now runs the show.

But, don't let me hinder you from your rants. Keep up the good job of exposing just how silly you Obama bashers can be.

As to the rest of your post, you quote a CNN article and back up your stance with one on Yahoo News? Now that's credible.

September 6, 2012 at 10:10 a.m.
BobMKE said...

Both parties have the wrong wording. The RNC is now the CNC = Conservative National Convention. The DNC is now the LNC = Liberal National Convention. All over Charlotte there are no Donkey Logo’s, just Oblamea’s Logos. What narcissism.

Romney/Ryan are the real deal. There are running on family values, a free market system, and a smaller government. With this the consumer wins. The past Rinos ran on the same platform, but they didn’t downsize government. = The Tea Party. Capitalism will work with a smaller government, so they are not going back to the past. R/R know that a safety net and life long entitlements are NOT the same. They want to simplify the tax code, get rid of the loopholes, and lower the highest tax rate that corporations have to pay. They know that people, who risk their money, produce a product or service that someone wants, become successful are NOT evil. They know that the free market looks into the future to produce products and services. They know that the government should not get involved in Healthcare and shouldn’t decide who gets care or not.

Watching the LNC (or the Pity Party) all I am seeing and hearing is a bunch of victims on stage just whining and whining and whining. Debbie Wassermen Schultz can’t run a one-car funeral and just tells lie after lie. I see the “Forward” logo and all they do is go backward. They put Clinton (Perjurer) up there to try and convey that they are moderates. Clinton wasn’t really believing what he was saying and it was just pitiful. That fake hug at the end was priceless. They also go backwards in honoring Ed “Hic” “I got away with murder” Kennedy and then they have a video of the second worse President in history, Carter, on video. What were they thinking? Oh yeah, Diamond Jim Doyle speaking, HUH???? Then the Pity Party continues with the whining union hacks. I couldn’t think whom Michelle was talking about when she said, “He reaches back to help people and brings people together.” HUH? He has divided this Country and he throws people under the bus all of the time. “He listens to everyone.” HUH? He hasn’t met with his job council in seven months. He hasn’t met with Boehner, Reid or even Nancy in how long? He listens to no one and is a snarky narcissus. The whiners keep blaming Bush for the Counties problems. We are now 16T in debt, 46 M on food stamps, which breaks down to 1 in 7 people on them, which is 3.3% higher then last year. Etc.

September 6, 2012 at 10:15 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

ANTI-CHRISTIAN HATE SPEECH SPEWS FROM THE PALM BEACH DEM CHAIR

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/anti-christian-hate-speech-spews-from-the-palm-beach-democratic-chair/

The liberal hate machine grabs another gear.

September 6, 2012 at 10:16 a.m.
BobMKE said...

Cont'

The Party Platform is really the Oblamea Manifesto. No mention of God and Jerusalem. Way to go Debbie. Then they put them back in after taking three votes, which sounded like it was half and half each time. WOW! It then passes. Yeah, right. Then the loud Booooooooooooos. Right, throw Israel under the bus too. What a Godless Party! Abortion on demand paid by the taxpayers. Suck a nine-month-old babies brains out. If the baby is still alive, throw it some place. A party that wants to be the peoples “Baby Daddy.” (Verses Family Values by R/R)

I won’t be watching tonight and listen to more whining by the Pity Party.

September 6, 2012 at 10:16 a.m.
alprova said...

Harp3339 wrote: "It is too bad slick Willie can't run again. He is the smartest and most political savvy in either party. He does not like Obama..."

Nobody knows how Bill Clinton feels about President Obama other then himself. And given the words he spoke last night and the way he delivered them, I have every reason to believe that the hatchet has been buried.

The Republicans seem to have patched up their differences, so why would it be any different between those two men?

September 6, 2012 at 10:18 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Alpo: Hatchet put on shelf. No way Cllinton likes this guy. He's just currying support for Hillary in 16. Clinton can lie with a straight face. That's proven.

September 6, 2012 at 10:27 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

Jen1972's Addison quote just described alpo to a T! Alpo's "It IS because I say it IS" is getting more laughable by the day. You libs better hope like hell Obama wins. You're really putting it all out there.

September 6, 2012 at 10:28 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

Well said BobMKE.

September 6, 2012 at 10:31 a.m.
Easy123 said...

JackTroll,

"Hatchet put on shelf. No way Cllinton likes this guy."

Conjecture. Try again.

September 6, 2012 at 10:31 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

BobMKE: You must remember, the omission about Israel was just a "technical over site" Uh huh.

September 6, 2012 at 10:33 a.m.
mymy said...

Despite yesterday’s chaos on the floor of the Democratic National Convention in an attempt to restore Jerusalem and God to the Democratic Party 2012 platform, full pro-Israel language from the 2008 platform has not been and will not be restored. The current Democratic platform regarding Israel had a couple sentences restored yesterday:

Jerusalem is and will remain the capital of Israel. The parties have agreed that Jerusalem is a matter for final status negotiations. It should remain an undivided city accessible to people of all faiths.

But the full language of the 2008 platform is still gone:

The United States and its Quartet partners should continue to isolate Hamas until it renounces terrorism, recognizes Israel’s right to exist, and abides by past agreements. Sustained American leadership for peace and security will require patient efforts and the personal commitment of the President of the United States. The creation of a Palestinian state through final status negotiations, together with an international compensation mechanism, should resolve the issue of Palestinian refugees by allowing them to settle there, rather than in Israel. All understand that it is unrealistic to expect the outcome of final status negotiations to be a full and complete return to the armistice lines of 1949.

Each and every sentence of this is important. If the Democratic Party no longer believes that the United States and its partners should isolate Hamas, refuses to acknowledge that return to 1949 armistice lines is disastrous, and doesn’t think that the so-called “right of return” which would destroy Israel as a Jewish state is a non-starter, there’s nothing to talk about: the Party has excised virtually every important element from its Israel plank.

President Obama saw this platform before it was approved. He did not object. He still does not object to the excision of anti-Hamas language and preconditions to negotiations that would actually make a lasting peace possible. The Democratic Party platform is still dramatically more anti-Israel than its past platforms. And yesterday’s fiasco was only the start of the problem.

September 6, 2012 at 10:34 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

Every time you liberal morons call somebody a liar, watch this video.

September 6, 2012 at 10:47 a.m.
Easy123 said...

Mymy,

Why do you support Israel? I think I know the answer already but I'll reserve my comments until after your response.

September 6, 2012 at 10:48 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Easy toddler: Conjecture. You love that word, eh Ease? And yet, and yet, you conjure up more BS than anyone on here. (maybe it goes along with the pre-puberty)

September 6, 2012 at 10:50 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

Clay has some grapes depicting Bush as stupid. Bush is obviously much smarter than Obama is. And he's got the college records to prove it. Clay's just a fuc#ing retard.

September 6, 2012 at 10:52 a.m.
Easy123 said...

JackTroll,

You love spouting conjecture. Your BS meets the definition of the word. :-)

"And yet, and yet, you conjure up more BS than anyone on here. (maybe it goes along with the pre-puberty)"

Annnnnddddd... more conjecture. You're always reliable in proving my points.

September 6, 2012 at 10:55 a.m.
Easy123 said...

JonRoss,

"I know why easy would like to see Israel destroyed."

Show me where I said I would like to see Israel destroyed. Don't worry, I'll wait...

September 6, 2012 at 10:57 a.m.
Easy123 said...

JonRoss,

Obama went to a Catholic school in Indonesia. Would you like to try again?

I guess Occidental and Harvard Law School are limited educational institutions, correct?

You ignorance is manifested in your every post.

September 6, 2012 at 11:06 a.m.
fairmon said...

alpro said...

Nobody knows how Bill Clinton feels about President Obama other then himself. And given the words he spoke last night and the way he delivered them, I have every reason to believe that the hatchet has been buried.

I'm sure you are. They don't call him slick Willie for nothing, we shall see if the republicans are smart enough use the cannon he loaded and left for them If they can't or don't they don't need to be in the POTUS office. Did you notice how he hit on Michelle? Obama may want to keep a close eye on the old man, he had his ticker fixed so the blood is flowing good again.

The hatchet buried? I bet you believed it when he said "I did not have sex with that woman"? Possibly a true statement that convinced a lot us us he was being framed. But it was not the whole truth about his relationship with "that woman". It never bothered me that he got a bj or more in the oval office, he was a good president. He was as good as Obama is bad. Obama needs to be the pastor of a rich peoples church and Romney needs to go back to a capital investment firm and contribute to supporting Obama's church.

September 6, 2012 at 11:08 a.m.
Easy123 said...

JonRoss,

"I am glad to hear you support the continued existence of Israel and that you believe Jerusalem is the seat of its national government."

I never said any of this either. Would you like to try one more time or do you want to continue to put words in my mouth?

September 6, 2012 at 11:09 a.m.
Easy123 said...

TOES,

"Bush is obviously much smarter than Obama is."

They also said that artificial sweeteners were safe, WMDs were in Iraq and Anna Nicole married for love.

"And he's got the college records to prove it."

The leaked college records (they weren't released by Bush) that show he had a C average? LMAO! The only thing Bushs' college records prove is that he was a mediocre student at best.

September 6, 2012 at 11:12 a.m.
degage said...

Easy' For israel or against Israel, Pick one.

September 6, 2012 at 11:19 a.m.
Easy123 said...

JonRoss,

"easy you are a true Obamist to the core."

And you're a Wingnut liar to the core.

"Obama lived in an Islamic household in an Islamic controlled country. You can't dispute that."

And you also can't dispute that he attended St. Francis of Assisi Catholic School for two of the five years that he lived in Indonesia.

"Occidental and Harvard are cesspools of leftwing filth."

By "leftwing filth", you must mean "knowledge". You discredit yourself by bashing higher learning institutions, Rick Santorum.

"Perfect for a guy with Islamic leaningings and a skanky Marxist mother."

Leaninings? LMAO! Obama is a Christian. Obama's mother wasn't a skank or a Marxist.

Keep the lies coming, I'll keep shooting them down.

September 6, 2012 at 11:20 a.m.
Easy123 said...

JonRoss,

"So easy you DO support the destruction Israel ?"

Again, show me where I said that. Doesn't it feel funny to talk out of your ass all the time?

"Was it you easy that said we should prepare for the influx of 5 million Jews into the U.S. ?"

No.

September 6, 2012 at 11:21 a.m.
miraweb said...

JonRoss - I am Jewish and I am finding your posts to be offensive and childish. Jewish opinions on Israel are varied, nuanced and complex. Simplifying a difficult, complex issue into black and white false choices doesn't move the discussion forward in any way.

September 6, 2012 at 11:22 a.m.
Easy123 said...

degage,

"Easy' For israel or against Israel, Pick one."

There are more than two options. What you have presented is a logical fallacy called "false dichotomy".

Try again, sucker.

September 6, 2012 at 11:23 a.m.
miraweb said...

Back to the cartoon of the day -

Four years ago we had two wars, a massive economic collapse, a vacationing president, millions in congressional earmarks, a health care system that was crushing small businesses, robo-signed mortgage foreclosures, and people jumping out of buildings because they had lost everything.

Yes, we are better off.

September 6, 2012 at 11:28 a.m.
degage said...

Mira, What would move the discussion forward. Obamas agenda? If in fact you are jewish which i don't doubt you are, why do you condone Obama wanting Israel to go back to 67 borders?

September 6, 2012 at 11:31 a.m.
Easy123 said...

JonRoss,

"easy you havn't shot anything down."

Might want to look again.

"You bob, weave, and project like a true Alinskyite/Obamist."

Nope, just basic disproving your BS.

"Everything I said in my 11:12am post is true and you have done nothing to dispute any of it."

And none of what you said in your 11:12 am post proves what you said in your 11:00 am post. You have done nothing you prove your claim about Obama's view on Israel/Islam. I disputed the claims about Occidental and Harvard. As well as the "Islamic leaninings" part and the "skanky Marxist mother" part.

Would you like to try one more time?

September 6, 2012 at 11:32 a.m.
degage said...

Easy I wouldn't say obamas mother was skanky but her fathers very good friend Frank marshall davis was a card carrying communist so it stands to reason she was raised with some form of marxism in her life. Obamas Dad was a marxist and she married him. Well we aren't sure they were really married since he was still married to the first wife.

September 6, 2012 at 11:40 a.m.
miraweb said...

Israel is nation, not a slogan. There are fourteen political parties in the Knesset. There are conservative Jews, moderate Jews, and liberal Jews. It is a country as complex and with views as broad as any other nation.

September 6, 2012 at 11:44 a.m.
Easy123 said...

JonRoss,

"easy if you wish you can ignore facts and the manifestation of Obama's sick beliefs in his own actions."

I haven't ignored any facts or "manifestations". You haven't proved anything.

"Why don't you move on to CNN or NPR and play with others who also enjoy rolling in their own excrement as you do."

Why don't you move on to Fox News or Drudge Report and play with others who also enjoy eating, regurgitating and then eating their own excrement as you do.

September 6, 2012 at 11:47 a.m.
miraweb said...

JonRoss responds to:

Four years ago we had two wars, a massive economic collapse, a vacationing president, millions in congressional earmarks, a health care system that was crushing small businesses, robo-signed mortgage foreclosures, and people jumping out of buildings because they had lost everything.

The fact is that every one of those statements is true.

September 6, 2012 at 11:48 a.m.
Easy123 said...

degage,

"but her fathers very good friend Frank marshall davis was a card carrying communist so it stands to reason she was raised with some form of marxism in her life."

And that doesn't makes her a Marxist whatsoever. I highly doubt you realize that.

"Obamas Dad was a marxist and she married him."

And? That proves nothing. People of different religions, beliefs, morals, values, political ideology get married daily.

It's all conjecture with you and your ilk.

September 6, 2012 at 11:50 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Miraweb said: “Four years ago we had two wars, a massive economic collapse, a vacationing president, millions in congressional earmarks, a health care system that was crushing small businesses, robo-signed mortgage foreclosures. . . Yes, we are better off.

I agree, Miraweb. Economist Dean Baker had a good commentary a few days ago on this subject. He was addressing a few incompetent pundits:

“While the source is not clear, someone developed a simple way to identify incompetent news reporters. If you hear a reporter ask people in President Obama's administration, ideally in a belligerent tone, "are the American people better off than they were four years ago?,"the reporter is trying to tell you that they are not qualified to do their job.

The reason we know that the questioners are incompetent reporters is that this is a pointless question. Suppose your house is on fire and the firefighters race to the scene. They set up their hoses and start spraying water on the blaze as quickly as possible. After the fire is put out, the courageous news reporter on the scene asks the chief firefighter, "is the house in better shape than when you got here?" . . .

A serious reporter asks the fire chief if he had brought a large enough crew, if they had enough hoses, if the water pressure was sufficient. That might require some minimal knowledge of how to put out fires.

Similarly, serious reporters would ask whether the stimulus was large enough, was it well-designed, and were there other measures that could have been taken . . . That would of course require some knowledge of economics, but it sure makes more sense than asking if a house is better off after it was nearly burnt to the ground."

http://www.cepr.net/index.php/blogs/beat-the-press/qare-americans-better-off-today-than-they-were-four-years-agoq-the-questron-that-exposes-incompetent-reporters

September 6, 2012 at 11:54 a.m.
limric said...

After the coup in 2000, it became evident that Bush was in reality a foil to the 21st century’s version of Tiberius & Caligula / Cheney & Rumsfeld. A clueless puppet that turned a blind eye while the heads of his Praetorian Guard stole billions in cash, never read a newspaper, sold the country down the river, caused untold death and destruction and a finger on the button that could end the world belonged to someone who couldn't even pronounce the word "nuclear.” And who said, “I have opinions, strong ones, but that doesn't necessarily mean that I agree with them."
No wonder he’s in exile.

Romney supporters, and those defending Bush, aren’t stupid because they’re Republicans; they’re Republicans because they’re stupid.

Coming any minute, "The Democrats booed God at Abortion Fest '12?"

Bets anyone?

September 6, 2012 at 11:59 a.m.
limric said...

DEGAGE poses a question for Easy123: Easy' For Israel or against Israel, Pick one.

I’ll bite. AGAINST!!

September 6, 2012 at noon
limric said...

Ah typical. I didn't say or infer any such thing. But not falling lockstep with your one sided and skewed image and opinion of Israel makes me no doubt- an anti-semite. Right?

Israel in conjunction with its enabling big brother is a bellicose threat to peace in the middle east.

September 6, 2012 at 12:13 p.m.
Easy123 said...

JonRoss,

Nothing you say is honest. Why is that?

September 6, 2012 at 12:24 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

limric: You imply, we infer.

Easy: Conjecture?? there you go again. you've worn that one out...go back to "projection". An old stand-by of yours. Or how about "prove it". Or "I'm still waiting'. You need some new material, wiki boy.

September 6, 2012 at 12:24 p.m.
miraweb said...

There was a very interesting discussion last week following the death of Roger Fisher, one of the founders of the Harvard Negotiation Project.

In an interview, they talked about how Israel and Egypt were able to come to an agreement on the Sinai.

The original proposal was for Israel to control 1/3 of the Sinai and Egypt to control the other 2/3. As long as it was a discussion about borders, things were falling apart.

They backed away from the borders discussion and began asking why Israel wanted 1/3 of the Sinai and why Egypt was objecting.

Israel wanted security

Egypt wanted sovereignty.

The solution was not dividing the Sinai, but demilitarizing it. Egypt retained 100% sovereignty. Israel's security concerns were met. An agreement was reached and has held for decades.

As I said, the problems are complex and nuanced. That is true on both sides. A simple discussion about lines on a map is not what will create a lasting solution. And nothing about getting there will be easy.

September 6, 2012 at 12:29 p.m.
Easy123 said...

JackTroll,

Words mean things. When you keep bringing conjecture into an argument, I'll call you on it. When you project, I'll call you on that too. If you don't prove a baseless claim, I'll call you on that real quick. The "I'm still waiting" part is sarcasm. I wouldn't expect you to get it.

You need to understand that words mean things and it doesn't matter how many times you use them as long as you are using them correctly. You are the one that needs new material. You are a troll. You contribute nothing to these threads. You never have and you never will. I already know how you'll respond. And yes, I do contribute contrary to what your geriatric brain will allow you to think.

You prove your trolliness with every post. :-)

September 6, 2012 at 12:31 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

limric: Sorry you were born too late. You would have fit perfectly in the black SS uniform.

September 6, 2012 at 12:31 p.m.
Easy123 said...

JackTroll,

"You would have fit perfectly in the black SS uniform."

That's your "Casual Friday" attire.

September 6, 2012 at 12:33 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Easy: A very worthy contribution there.

September 6, 2012 at 12:46 p.m.
Easy123 said...

JackTroll,

I guess that applies to your post as well (which makes the same claim about another poster), correct?

September 6, 2012 at 12:50 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Sandra Fluke was very eloquent and resolute in her speech last night. Julian Castro still takes the cake. Pres. Clinton was a close second. Ms. Fluke was right up there with those two, in my opinion.

September 6, 2012 at 12:56 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Easy: You leftists should study Lanny Davis. The only southpaw that ever makes any sense. And with civility. You could learn a lot.

September 6, 2012 at 1:04 p.m.
Easy123 said...

JackTroll,

I know about Lanny Davis. I'm not a fan. But I wouldn't take advice from you either way.

September 6, 2012 at 1:07 p.m.
limric said...

Ooh, I wanna play the Jack sh*t Brown Shirt name calling game too.

Jack_Dennis, “Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a Republican. But I repeat myself.”

September 6, 2012 at 1:14 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

No surprise. I'm sure Lanny is far too moderate for your taste. Shame to see the Dem party taken over by you left wing loons. The party will pay the price eventually.

September 6, 2012 at 1:14 p.m.
Easy123 said...

JackTroll,

"I'm sure Lanny is far too moderate for your taste."

He was the lawyer for a few African dictators. LMAO!

"Shame to see the Dem party taken over by you left wing loons."

Democrats are far closer to the middle than you and your Teabagger buddies.

"The party will pay the price eventually."

You have to pay the cost to be the boss. The price will be 4 years of hard work. The reward will be 4 more years. :-)

September 6, 2012 at 1:25 p.m.
Easy123 said...

sTUpid,

"Chance of rain at the time of TheObozo’s screech is … wait for it … 0 percent."

And? The chance is around 80% at 7 pm and it gets lower (30%) until 10 pm.

Keep reaching.

September 6, 2012 at 1:30 p.m.
fairmon said...

Obama couldn't be the ball boy on Clinton's team. Obama cried and lied to beat Hillary, to our detriment. I would not want the voters in this country doing the hiring for a business with a need for knowledge, skill and ability through experience. How did people conclude that Obama was more capable then Hillary? No doubt he has proved them wrong but the business may be stuck with the incompetent arse that would screw up a two car funeral because, in their opinion, no better replacement is available.

September 6, 2012 at 1:41 p.m.
Easy123 said...

sTUpid,

"Really ?!?! AlBaby is into the “junk”??"

That's a fairly common phrase. But I had no doubt you would automatically think of penis. You're all about the salami.

ROTFLMAO at your affinity to talk about male genitalia everyday!

September 6, 2012 at 1:43 p.m.
Easy123 said...

sTUpid,

"That's very true if you're gauging them on the "Open Ended Rectum Scale""

That's all you think about, penises and ass holes.

I would laugh but it's just getting weird.

September 6, 2012 at 1:48 p.m.
fairmon said...

Most men would fluke around with fluke w/o protection. I wonder if her and slick Willie were in the waiting to speak area together? I would like to have heard that conversation...

September 6, 2012 at 1:51 p.m.
Easy123 said...

sTUpid,

"If that’s a fairly common term with you and your Buds then you are obviously playing for the “other teem”."

Maybe you don't get out enough. It's a fairly common phrase. Similar to "all up in your grill". And it's "team".

But I could see how someone like you would make that connection with all your daydreams of penises and rectums.

September 6, 2012 at 1:52 p.m.
Easy123 said...

harp3339,

Ms. Fluke is engaged. Keep your sexual fantasies to yourself.

September 6, 2012 at 1:56 p.m.
Easy123 said...

sTUpid,

"You have to give the readers what they desire."

Readers of your erotic blog? I'm not familiar with it.

"And you do so love "it" ... don't you ??"

I'm a fan of my own. I'm sure you're on of those fans that jump on a lot of bandwagons though. You just can't get tube steak off your mind.

"I would laugh but it's just getting weird."

Talk about becoming self-aware! What a breakthrough for you! Congrats!

September 6, 2012 at 1:59 p.m.
Easy123 said...

sTUpid,

"If you think that "Getting Into Someone's Junk" is the equivalent then you definitely need some anatomy instruction."

I didn't say it was equivalent. I said it was similar. Learn to read all the words next time. :-)

"Maybe that's why you unzip your pants to take a drink and keep spitting on your playboys."

Are you bringing up your childhood memories? You might want to keep some secrets to yourself. What a terribly sickening life you must lead.

"Weird" is turning into "nauseating". LMFAO!

September 6, 2012 at 2:06 p.m.
Easy123 said...

sTUpid,

"That sounds very defensive. Are you sure that is just a distention (sp-?) without a difference??"

It's not defensive. I said "similar", not "equivalent". Those two words don't mean the same thing. Keep reaching. I know you will.

September 6, 2012 at 2:27 p.m.
Easy123 said...

sTUpid,

"Its been said that she is "down" for anything if you bring a free "raincoat"."

No, it hasn't.

September 6, 2012 at 2:28 p.m.
BobMKE said...

All of the above is now all moot. The three major networks, who carried Clinton's prime time speech, only had a 0.9 rating. Was it because of the football game or that the public just doesn't care?

September 6, 2012 at 2:39 p.m.
Easy123 said...

JonRoss,

You're deranged. Your psychosis and demented thoughts have been duly noted

September 6, 2012 at 2:43 p.m.
Easy123 said...

JonRoss,

"And Clinton's speech was all about himself. Obama was a second thought in the speech."

You didn't watch the speech if you believe that BS. You're projecting Chris Christie's speech failures on Clinton. That's very obvious.

"Clinton will act like he is supporting Obama. But he will vote for Romney."

You live in a fantasy world.

September 6, 2012 at 2:49 p.m.
Easy123 said...

JonRoss,

"Thanks easy123, coming from you that is indeed a fine compliment."

More proof of your disconnect from reality.

September 6, 2012 at 2:53 p.m.
Easy123 said...

sTUpid,

"Are your BDSM foundation garments black or red ??"

"Paying the cost to be the boss" is a common phrase as well. You really don't get out much.

More of your sexual fantasies? Penises, ass holes, and BDSM. You really are a sexual deviant.

LMFAO at your dirty mind.

September 6, 2012 at 3:03 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Easy: Projecting?? There you go again. You need to move on to Psych 102 and learn some new terms.

September 6, 2012 at 3:06 p.m.
fairmon said...

Easy123 said... harp3339,

Ms. Fluke is engaged. Keep your sexual fantasies to yourself.

That wouldn't deter Slick Willie or me if with an opportunity. I bet she is a talker, screamer and scratcher, what do you think?

September 6, 2012 at 3:47 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Harp,

"That wouldn't deter Slick Willie or me if with an opportunity. I bet she is a talker, screamer and scratcher, what do you think?"

You might not want to talk publicly about your sexual assault fantasies. I never would have guessed you had rapist tendencies, Harpie. "The more you know".

September 6, 2012 at 3:55 p.m.
miraweb said...

And with every post - another American woman votes Democratic. Keep up the good work, guys!

September 6, 2012 at 4:02 p.m.
Easy123 said...

sTUpid,

LMAO at your nostalgia. Or is it just ignorance. I guess it could be both.

"Me … I’m just here to shove your face in your own HorseShat. You’re just making it too complicated."

I'm still waiting on this to occur. Hasn't happened to dare despite your promises. I eagerly anticipate your attempts. :-)

September 6, 2012 at 4:04 p.m.
fairmon said...

easy123 said.....

You might not want to talk publicly about your sexual assault fantasies. I never would have guessed you had rapist tendencies, Harpie. "The more you know".

I am not sure where you came up with the rape/assault theory unless you have never had a willing partner. I accept a no as no. It is no fun unless it is between two consenting adults. I have never seen where one of her choices or preferences was saying no or abstinance.

September 6, 2012 at 4:27 p.m.
timbo said...

Ok you dumb butt liberals....I admit it..Bush was a big spender who mismanaged the government. THE REASON HE WAS BAD BECAUSE HE ACTED LIKE A LIBERAL!

As bad as he was, he was only half as bad as Obama. Bush ran up a 4 trillion dollar debt in 8 years. Obama has run up a 5 trillion dollar debt in 4 years.

For some reason you imbeciles think no one is going to notice. Well they will.

Laugh it up for another 60 days and then it will be over for Obama.

You libs keep complaining. It is pretty entertaining listening to you whine.

September 6, 2012 at 4:30 p.m.
fairmon said...

miraweb said...

And with every post - another American woman votes Democratic. Keep up the good work, guys!

Why do you think that is miraweb? Is it the mama syndrom and feeling like she has to take care of everyone? Is it the school teacher, service worker and nun affect where the bar is lowered to the level no one fails and anyone qualifies? Where are all the budget minded coupon cutting/using women that gets the most possible for a dollar? Are none of them democrats?

September 6, 2012 at 4:36 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Harp,

I didn't come up with it. You're the one that implied it.

"It is no fun unless it is between two consenting adults."

So you're saying your rape experiences weren't fun, correct?

" I have never seen where one of her choices or preferences was saying no or abstinance."

Did you ask Ms. Fluke? Or are these preferences posted online or something? Or are you just claiming that she is promiscuous? You would have no knowledge of any of these things. Does it hurt to talk out of your ass?

September 6, 2012 at 4:40 p.m.
miraweb said...

There are really two things to look at with candidates - character and capability.

Character is the values a candidate holds and the integrity to stick to those values when the going gets rough.

Capability is the ability to do the hardest job in the world.

Both Obama and Romney are capable men. They are both men of accomplishment and I believe they have the smarts to do a fine job as President.

Romney shows little sign of being a man of real character. How Romney addresses his taxes is a measure of his integrity. His positions have wandered so much that even when you can discern what they might be now, no one sure what they will be next week or next month.

Romney fails the character test.

I believe GW was a man of character, but not a capable man. The country paid very heavily for his foolishness. It is true, he did not govern alone, and there is plenty of blame to share with his party and his cabinet.

I actually understand that perception GW may "acted like a liberal" in that he spent money very freely but avoided the hard task of paying the bills for what he wanted to do.

Though, by that standard, the entire Republican party has become "liberal."

September 6, 2012 at 4:50 p.m.
Easy123 said...

JonRoss,

Our government isn't taking anything by force. No one holds a gun to your head when you write your check to the government. And no one is forcing "people" to pay for anyone else's birth control.

Fluke argued for contraception to be covered by insurance.

You don't have an argument. You have created a government strawman.

Would you like to try again?

September 6, 2012 at 4:52 p.m.
ITguy said...
September 6, 2012 at 5:02 p.m.
miraweb said...

Clinton is right. Economic growth is an exercise in arithmetic.

Money in and money out have to be balanced for the deficit to go down. If they aren't then the public sector is a drag on the private sector and the "job creators" will always have one hand tied behind their backs.

It's just math.

September 6, 2012 at 5:11 p.m.
Easy123 said...

JonRoss,

"you just showed your ignorance about how "healthcare" is delivered"

I didn't know healthcare was delivered through theft and coercion. Oh wait, it's not.

"and you also showed your ignorance about how the nationalization of healthcare is impacting "insurance"

I guess everyone having insurance is bad, right? Oh wait, that's just what you want everyone to think.

"fool."

Dumbass.

September 6, 2012 at 5:18 p.m.
miraweb said...

Actually, if you look at that article it is originally from U.S. News and World report. It is pretty balanced and supports its analysis with actual facts.

The rest of JR's post is just an obvious troll, so I'll let that pass.

September 6, 2012 at 5:21 p.m.
Easy123 said...

JonRoss,

"Just saw where the God King's sycophant Axlerod threatend the Gallup poll organization for releasing polls that were unfavorable to the God King."

Misinformation. Axlerod asked Gallup to see their methodology. There were no threats.

"I am telling you folks, Barry, Axlerod, Plouff,Jarrett, etc are going to Federal Prison before this is all over."

More evidence of your psychosis.

September 6, 2012 at 5:22 p.m.
fairmon said...

miraweb said... Clinton is right. Economic growth is an exercise in arithmetic.

Money in and money out have to be balanced for the deficit to go down. If they aren't then the public sector is a drag on the private sector and the "job creators" will always have one hand tied behind their backs.

It's just math.

A very accurate post. How is doubling of the debt over then next decade or so justified? Only if ~$10 spending reduced for each dollar of revenue increase can the budget be balanced with unemployment reduced to around 4% with added jobs being good paying jobs where workers pay taxes. And all tax rates are increased with all loop holes (deductions) eliminated).

It is simple arithmetic and means all the "off book" and unfunded future obligations have to be included for a correct answer. You won't find anyone in either party willing to talk about that.

September 6, 2012 at 5:40 p.m.
hambone said...

170 Posts by the same handfull of 'ol soreheads. What's really funny is if Bennett was giving away free ice cream, joneses would say it was a socialist plot by Obama, ask for 2 gallons and then bitch about the flavor!

September 6, 2012 at 5:58 p.m.
miraweb said...

That's where our old math friend the "vector" comes in. Every vector has a magnitude and a direction. For economics you can think of it as you have to be going the right speed (magnitude) and in the right direction.

The speed determines how long it will take to get to a healthy balance. Even Clinton needed a few years to work back the Reagan/Bush I deficits.

It doesn't matter what the speed is, if the direction is wrong.

The biggest pressures on the budget are the military, the medical bills, and Social Security.

Military Spending

Romney says no cuts to the military and no tax hikes.

There is no speed that will get to balanced in that scenario. The deficit will grow even more.

Obama has closed down the spending for one war and set a date for the second to be drawn down. That is a huge amount of money. The Congress put other military cuts on the table. In this case, they were probably right.

We can not afford a military the size of the Bush years in peacetime. We can't cut the deficit without cuts to the military.

Medical Bills

One of the major goals of the ACA is to begin reigning back medical costs before they eat the entire budget.

Romney has no credible plan on the table to reign in those costs. The numbers Clinton put out (and that have been verified by fact checkers) show medical inflation has slowed - a lot. There are arguments about why, but the fact is that for the first time in half a century - we are going the right direction.

Social Security

Changes to Social Security have already been made. The young are already not going to be eligible for benefits when their parents and grandparents were. Taking care of the medical costs and military costs leaves more room to work here.

Revenue

If the speed is too slow, then you have to look at revenue. Taxes have to go up with as little harm to the economy as can be managed. That means that people who spend are the worst economic target for tax increases.

The people who already have huge tax breaks will have to begin pitching in.

If they don't - the speed will be very slow. We will get to the end of this - but without addressing revenue it will take years longer to do.

It is just arithmetic.

September 6, 2012 at 6:01 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Easy: Strawman? Psychosis? "Would you like to try it again"? Please get some new materia lteen boy.

September 6, 2012 at 6:04 p.m.
mymy said...

Geez!

What a bunch of dumb nuts, taker and enemies the Democratic Party has become now lead by the “ONE” enemy expected to destroy this country.

What the founders fought to escape Obama/Liberals are heading this country back too.

GOD save us!

September 6, 2012 at 6:28 p.m.
Easy123 said...

JackTroll,

You need to understand that words mean things and it doesn't matter how many times you use them as long as you are using them correctly. You are the one that needs new material, geezer. You are a troll. You contribute nothing to these threads. You never have and you never will.

You deserve a medal for your trollhood.

September 6, 2012 at 6:32 p.m.
Easy123 said...

mymy,

Same baseless hyperbole. Same Wingnut rhetoric. It's all BS with you.

Which god?

September 6, 2012 at 6:34 p.m.
fairmon said...

miraweb said... That's where our old math friend the "vector" comes in. Every vector has a magnitude and a direction. For economics you can think of it as you have to be going the right speed (magnitude) and in the right direction.

I have to say you are one of the few, maybe the only one, that acknowledges there is a problem. I don't agree with your conclusions I do admire the fact you do address the real issues and not just insist everything is great if only people would do what Obama tells them to do. You are right in concluding Romney really doesn't have the answer either. Those seeking office cannot tell people the truth and get elected.

September 6, 2012 at 7:08 p.m.
dude_abides said...

The Dow Jones industrial average surged 245 points, or 1.9%, and closed at the highest level since December 2007. The S&P 500 climbed 2% to its highest level since January 2008 while the Nasdaq shot up 2.2% to its highest level since November 2000.

Which one of you conservative idiots said, the other day, that they couldn't wait for the jobs report??? Don't make me go back and find it. Was it toes? degage?

September 6, 2012 at 7:12 p.m.
fairmon said...

Am I better off today? Anyone not having their head under their arm should be. I have doubled my well offness twice in the last 12 years and will do so again the next 8 regardless of who is elected unless they go ape sh@t crazy on capital gains taxing. It is much easier for an individual to do that than a big fund manager. Individuals can react quicker and take gains or stop losses much easier and quicker than the big money boys. For example, the S&P had a huge run up today. I sold it short at the market close expecting it to go down by morning after Obama does his thing, it always goes down following him making a speech. If it doesn't I will take a small loss and get out of that trade and those stocks I own will go up with the market. It is risky but it fun and rewarding if done right.

September 6, 2012 at 7:27 p.m.
moon4kat said...

miraweb, thanks for a thoughtful and informative analysis.

September 6, 2012 at 7:43 p.m.
moonpie said...

I guess conservatives are proving Snopes wrong on this one...... the way they are jumping from the Bush ship.

Must have been a fake after all.

http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/missmeyet.asp

September 6, 2012 at 7:43 p.m.
joneses said...

Another democrat lie at their "Gathering of Fools". And this is reported by the Hussein Obama owned news network of ABC.

http://news.yahoo.com/steelworker-featured-dnc-didnt-bain-165325041--abc-news-politics.html

September 6, 2012 at 7:45 p.m.
joneses said...

Click on the link below to see the five biggest lies told on the democrats first day of their "Gathering of Fools".

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/these-are-5-of-the-biggest-lies-told-on-the-first-day-of-the-dnc/

September 6, 2012 at 7:50 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

SLUTS VOTE TOO

Aspen, Colorado delegate Blanca O'Leary, for example, sported a "Sluts Vote," button, a reference to the word Limbaugh used to describe Fluke. Said O'Leary, "All women should have the right to birth control."

Since when did republicans ban birth control? Who took their rights away for birth control? Since when is having sex and not wanting to get pregnant a healthcare issue?

September 6, 2012 at 7:52 p.m.
tipper said...

You know, I don't want to discourage anyone's free speach. But this "comment " site--or whatever it is--has become nothing but a venting platform. This country is so divided, the political parties might as well live on Mars and Jupiter, and the electorate is basically at war. Even though some comments are insightful, some are caustic, and some are just insane. One thing is true, however. I don't think any one person on this sight, including me, that will change another's mind on anything, especially politics and political leaders. Regardless of which sidse you're on or whether you're on any side at all. Go out and work for what you want. Join Republicans, join Democrats, join the Tea Party, join Occupy Wall Street or go somewhere and hold a sign to support your beliefs. This back and forth here is counter-productive. Pardon me for being arrogant, but I see no use with any of this.

September 6, 2012 at 7:53 p.m.
joneses said...

Click on the link below to see the true history of the democrats record on Civil Rights.

http://www.therightscoop.com/dnc-website-blatantly-lies-about-democrat-history-on-civil-rights/

September 6, 2012 at 7:53 p.m.
joneses said...

Even the Mayor of Minneapolis lied about a bridge collapse. It keeps getting disgusting at the democrats gathering of fools.

http://www.allamericanblogger.com/23545/mayor-of-minneapolis-lies-during-dnc-speech-regarding-bridge-collapse/

September 6, 2012 at 8:04 p.m.
dude_abides said...

TOES02800 said... SLUTS VOTE TOO

Enter sentence here which combines the word 'proof', the term 'Bush Re-elected', and a reference to 'toes' mother.'

September 6, 2012 at 8:09 p.m.
joneses said...

When I thought the lies at the DNC orgy were at it's worst I found this.

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/the_rumble/2012/09/dnc-day-two-so-many-lies-so-much-hate-so-little-time

September 6, 2012 at 8:10 p.m.
dude_abides said...

lies was? Christ, take some remedial English.

September 6, 2012 at 8:14 p.m.
joneses said...

dude,

Is that all you have? Grading the post? These lies from your pathetic liberal gods that must really be hard on you. I am loving the fact that people are seeing right through all the liberal BS.

By the way I corrected it for you so you could sleep tonight. What a looser! LOL!

September 6, 2012 at 8:18 p.m.
joneses said...

The liberal news CNN and one of the most liberal reporters, Wolf Blitzer, are even holding these lying democrats accountable.

http://www.theblaze.com/blog/2012/08/14/dnc-chair-lies-about-ryans-medicare-plans-is-then-shocked-when-taken-down-by-usually-reliable-cnn/

September 6, 2012 at 8:24 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

'Honey Boo Boo' and Bill Clinton's DNC Speech Tie in Ratings ! HAHAHA!!

September 6, 2012 at 8:25 p.m.
Easy123 said...

joneses,

No one believes your Wingnut blog links. Keep reaching, "looser"? :-)

September 6, 2012 at 8:26 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Toes,

‘Honey Boo Boo’ Ratings Top RNC’s

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/entertainment/2012/08/honey-boo-boos-ratings-beat-out-the-rncs/

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

And the DNC is outdoing the RNC on ratings as well. It's been a bad two weeks for you Teabagger Wingnuts.

September 6, 2012 at 8:29 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

CNN is realizing that carrying the water and lying for Obama is resulting in loss of viewership by the droves. PMSnbc is beyond rational thought about it. They will pay the price as well. PMSnbc is no longer a valid outlet. Except for blazing liberals.

September 6, 2012 at 8:33 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Why has this convention devolved into nothing but whining about women's rights? Are there no other issues for the Dems?

September 6, 2012 at 8:40 p.m.
Easy123 said...

"CNN is realizing that carrying the water and lying for Obama is resulting in loss of viewership by the droves."

Conjecture.

Fox News is beyond irrational. They won't pay the price though. There are far too many ignorant Conservatives for that to happen. Fox News is no longer a valid outlet. Except for people like Toes. LMAO!

September 6, 2012 at 8:43 p.m.
Easy123 said...

JackTroll,

"Why has this convention devolved into nothing but whining about women's rights?"

It hasn't. But your sexism is apparent.

"Are there no other issues for the Dems?"

Yep, you'll have to turn your hearing-aid up and pop a few Viagra to get the blood flowing to your brain though. FOCUS!

September 6, 2012 at 8:45 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Honey boo boo tied Clinton in ratings. HAHA!! That's all that matters. You have your dems so high on the pedestal, that when Honey boo boo gets as many viewers as Clinton, it's a slap in the face. I really don't care what the ratings were for the RNC.

Obama can no longer sell out stadiums. Face it, the weather had nothing to do with it. The chance of rain at speech time= 0%. I wish more people would watch the DNC, they have duly made your kind the laughing stock of the political arena:

DNC DELEGATES: LET’S BAN CORPORATE PROFITS!

How out of touch can you get?

September 6, 2012 at 8:48 p.m.
degage said...

Tipper, you make so much sense but did you notice not one person is paying any attention. Sometimes I post something just to get a rise out of certain ones and maybe I should think twice before I goad them.

September 6, 2012 at 8:56 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Toes,

Honey Boo Boo BEAT MITT ROMNEY. HAHA! That's all the matters. You have your reps so high on the pedestal, that when Honey Boo Boo gets MORE viewers as the Republican candidate, it's a slap in the face. I don't really care what the ratings were for the DNC.

Romney could never sell out stadiums. Face it, he's a robot. I wish more people would have watched the RNC, they have made your candidate the laughing stock of the political arena:

CLINT EASTWOOD AND THE EMPTY CHAIR!

How crazy/out of touch/insane/moronic can you get?

P.S. The chance of rain all day was upwards of 80%. Weather had everything to do with it. But I know you'll keep believing your Wingnut propaganda.

September 6, 2012 at 8:57 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

SECRET SERVICE: WE‘RE ’AWARE‘ OF DNC DELEGATE’S THREAT TO ‘KILL’ ROMNEY

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/secret-service-were-aware-of-dnc-delegates-threat-to-kill-romney/

And the TEA party is radical?

September 6, 2012 at 8:58 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Clint Eastwood made a throat slash gesture in reference to President Obama.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A1qP3fDCMAApDbS.jpg

And I thought the Teabaggers were radical?

September 6, 2012 at 9:03 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

15% chance of rain has been dropping all day. 10% now. That damn weather propaganda machine! You lie again. The fact is that with all the bashing of Eastwood and the "empty chair" speech, it would look silly to see all the empty chairs at the DNC.

How crazy/out of touch/insane/moronic can you get?

September 6, 2012 at 9:14 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

John Kerry: Repulsive as ever.

September 6, 2012 at 9:22 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

OH MY GOD!! NOT THE DREADED THROAT SLASH GESTURE!! Get a grip.

September 6, 2012 at 9:22 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Toes,

80% chance of T-storms at 7 pm. Went down to 50% then 30% right before 10 pm. Now, it's sitting at 15%.

That damn weather propaganda machine! You don't even know what you're talking about!

"The fact is that with all the bashing of Eastwood and the "empty chair" speech, it would look silly to see all the empty chairs at the DNC."

I saw plenty at the RNC. You won't see any tonight. Heck, at least none of the DNC speakers will be talking to those empty seats!

No really, how crazy/out of touch/insane/moronic can you get?

September 6, 2012 at 9:26 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

"Barack Obama to hail himself as the new Franklin D. Roosevelt: President promises 'bold, persistent' leadership like FDR during the Great Depression"

Obama has portrayed himself as every other president....except..Barack Hussein Obama..AKA. Barry Sotero.

No really, how crazy/out of touch/insane/moronic can you get?

September 6, 2012 at 9:27 p.m.
Easy123 said...

JackTroll: Repugnant as ever.

September 6, 2012 at 9:27 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Toes,

"Obama has portrayed himself as every other president"

That's just a flat out lie.

"except..Barack Hussein Obama"

Another lie.

LMAO!

September 6, 2012 at 9:29 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Easy, shouldn't you be out butt bouncing alpo by now? Time to watch Biden now. Don't forget your tissues!

September 6, 2012 at 9:33 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Toes,

"shouldn't you be out butt bouncing alpo by now?"

Shouldn't you be out tossing Jack_Dennis' salad by now?

"Time to watch Biden now."

Take notes.

"Don't forget your tissues!"

Don't forget your adult diapers!

September 6, 2012 at 9:35 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

"I always figured that if Bill Clinton landed on Mars, he'd know how to do it with 'em. Clinton would know how to do it with the Martians. He would know how to reproduce". Chris Matthews

September 6, 2012 at 9:50 p.m.
dude_abides said...

joneses said... "dude, By the way I corrected it for you so you could sleep tonight. What a looser! LOL!"

Please God tell me that spelling error was on purpose!!!
OMFG !

September 6, 2012 at 10:13 p.m.
alprova said...

tu_quoQue wrote: "Chance of rain at the time of TheObozo’s screech is … wait for it … 0 percent."

It's 10:09 pm. Just checked the radar. Charlotte is about to get bombed with rain.

Loser yourself.

September 6, 2012 at 10:14 p.m.
moonpie said...

Republicans are getting totally smoked on FACTS tonight.

That's what you get when you say you're going to ignore the fact checkers.

September 6, 2012 at 10:24 p.m.
dude_abides said...

"These lies that must really be hard on you." -joneses

Please, stop!!! LOL! Is English your first language? Do you wear a bib to catch the froth? You're like an Aryan Supremacist Bobcat Goldthwait!

September 6, 2012 at 10:32 p.m.
miraweb said...

Harp and Moonkat - thanks for the kind words. I think blogs can be useful for having real conversations. I learn a lot from what other people have posted.

On every blog there are a few folks whose egos depend on engaging in a grade-school p*ssing match but they just look like idiots, and I can skip over those posts pretty quickly.

We all live in the same economy. We all have a stake in making this country work.

September 6, 2012 at 10:33 p.m.
dude_abides said...

alprova's correct on the weather. Not to mention you have to make the decision in advance. The National Weather Service is predicting a sh!tstorm if Myth Romney's tax records don't get ransomed. Anybody got a jobs report retort?

September 6, 2012 at 10:41 p.m.
dude_abides said...

miraweb, don't take this as an affront, but if you think you're having a "real" conversation with harp3339 you may need to look at his old posts. It's hard to read his pseudo-centrist posts once you've seen the duplicity.

September 6, 2012 at 10:53 p.m.
Easy123 said...

"We don't think government can solve all our problems. But we don't think that government is the source of all our problems – any more than are welfare recipients, or corporations, or unions, or immigrants, or gays, or any other group we're told to blame for our troubles."

-President Barack Obama

September 6, 2012 at 10:55 p.m.
miraweb said...

We don't have to agree with people to listen to them. A conversation is not a judgment of the person - it is an airing of ideas.

September 6, 2012 at 10:58 p.m.
mtnman1 said...

To all of you who keep on with the college credentials... My IQ has been measured at 167. Although they can't find an accurate test for me. I can't spell for sh*t. Failed out of 3 colleges/ universities before my parents stopped paying for my "higher" education. At this point, you might work for me. But what I do know is I don't understand a damned thing Obama has done. He made good grades (as did you) because he was a conformist. Bush couldn't get out of his own way just as I can't. But you can see truth through his muttering. Not through the lies of a Harvard law prof. 4 more years of this hand I'm off to another country. With all of the jobs I created. Yeah, the government didn't do it, I did.

September 6, 2012 at 10:59 p.m.
Easy123 said...

mtnman1,

"My IQ has been measured at 167."

So you're a genius?

"I can't spell for sh*t."

That can't spell.

"Failed out of 3 colleges/ universities before my parents stopped paying for my "higher" education."

Can't study or learn.

"At this point, you might work for me."

But everyone works for you.

"Bush couldn't get out of his own way just as I can't. But you can see truth through his muttering."

And you think Bush told the truth?

"4 more years of this hand I'm off to another country."

And leave all your workers?

"With all of the jobs I created."

Which jobs and how many?

"Yeah, the government didn't do it, I did."

You apparently haven't done much.

You might want to take the 1 off that 167, Mr. mtnman1 CEO, if you please.

September 6, 2012 at 11:09 p.m.
mymy said...

It's not what Obama says, but what he does!

I do not agree with what he has done or what I think he will do with 4 more years dispite the pretty word. How many will be fooled for a second time?

September 6, 2012 at 11:16 p.m.
miraweb said...

Easy - now you are just starting to look like a bully.

mtnmn - very bright and creative people can find themselves not a good fit in college. The world is bigger than that and there are places where they can make their own home.

I've taught kids who were bright but who had brain issues that really got in the way of spelling or math skills. They could learn - but it was in a different environment and in a different way.

One of the reasons I don't generally get into grammar flames on a blog. You never know.

September 6, 2012 at 11:21 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

The Anointed One making promises. What about the ones he made in '08? And didn't keep.

September 6, 2012 at 11:21 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Yes, just as we can learn from purchasing watches on a street corner.

September 6, 2012 at 11:22 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Mymy,

What has he done?

" or what I think he will do with 4 more years dispite the pretty word."

Is it what he does or what you think he will do? You're backtracking.

"How many will be fooled for a second time?"

That already happened in 2004. The fools will vote for Myth Romney.

OBAMA 2012!

September 6, 2012 at 11:24 p.m.
miraweb said...

Always something to learn. ;)

September 6, 2012 at 11:24 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Miraweb,

"Easy - now you are just starting to look like a bully."

How is that?

September 6, 2012 at 11:27 p.m.
dude_abides said...

mtnbrain1 said... My IQ has been measured at 167. Although they can't find an accurate test for me.

Is it within your savant like genius to explain wtf that sentence means? Do you test at 20 sometimes and then 200 the next day? I can't tell it's 167 degrees outside if I don't have a thermometer.

September 6, 2012 at 11:27 p.m.
LaughingBoy said...

The first lady needs to keep an eye out on "ScarJo" tonight.

September 6, 2012 at 11:33 p.m.
miraweb said...

Easy -

Half of winning honor in a p*ssing match is being careful in choosing your targets. Easy prey is just bullying. The real joy comes from aiming a bit higher.

Plus, you don't get your shoes wet. ;-)

September 6, 2012 at 11:33 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Miraweb,

Today has been one of those "Root hog, or die"-type days on this thread. No intent to bully on my part. Sometimes I just like to argue!

September 6, 2012 at 11:39 p.m.
miraweb said...

Sometimes I do, too.

September 6, 2012 at 11:40 p.m.
miraweb said...

Actually, my favorite moment of both conventions came from Elizabeth Warren. As a former educator I know the amazing powers of "Teacher Voice".

Warren used that magic when she said "Enough!" at 1:05 in this video - and the whole arena sat down and started paying attention quietly. Ah, the power of Teacher Voice. I almost couldn't stop laughing.

September 6, 2012 at 11:52 p.m.
LaughingBoy said...
September 7, 2012 at 12:22 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

I was prepared to be physically sick when Plugs Biden took the stage. And he didn't disappoint. What a pile of it.

September 7, 2012 at 12:40 a.m.
alprova said...

Miraweb, I missed most of Elizabeth Warren's speech when she spoke live. I'm definitely with you. She's a very effective speaker. She's a reamrkable lady, for sure.

She's living proof that one can deliver the goods without appearing to be angry or outraged, which was commonly expressed during most, if not all of the RNC speeches.

Thanks for sharing her speech. I'm sure she has many students who are proud to have attended her classes, and I'm sure that you have your fans too. I'm one of them.

BTW, I saw your post in regard to what caused the collapse of the economy, and I am here to tell you that you indeed know the truth, you expressed it, and nobody can begin to refute it.

Keep your chin up.

September 7, 2012 at 12:47 a.m.
LaughingBoy said...

Cooper: "It seems, maybe accidentally, you completely misquote the LA Times and you make it sound like they're saying something they're not saying, and you use it to back up your position."

Shultz: "Anderson, it doesn't matter."

September 7, 2012 at 1:19 a.m.
fairmon said...

Ms. Warren made the best speech of the convention but the DMC platform doesn't include the issues she mentioned and she didn't say how to accomplish her vision.

It sounded like Obama was saying "my bad, sorry, can I have a do over please".

September 7, 2012 at 1:24 a.m.
LaughingBoy said...
September 7, 2012 at 1:30 a.m.
fairmon said...

A fiscal conservative with a liberal social ideology irritates both parties since neither is agreed with. So, I will keep irritating those that think I speak favorably or unfavorably about their party depending on the issue. That is why it is evident to me that it really doesn't matter who of the two is elected. It is simply a choice of the method by which liberty and freedom is destroyed.

September 7, 2012 at 1:43 a.m.
fairmon said...

If you want a fast growing expanding federal government vote for the dems, if you want a slightly slower rate of expansion and growth of the federal government vote for the pubs. A lot of talk from both parties about what, when, where, why, and who but nothing about how.

September 7, 2012 at 6:17 a.m.
fairmon said...

In retrospect, after watching both conventions, Clint Eastwood gave the best performance. He sure irritated the Hollywood crowd which is good. Actually none of the candidates can do that to themselves but they will all do it to us.

September 7, 2012 at 6:28 a.m.
joneses said...
September 7, 2012 at 6:43 a.m.
MickeyRat said...

It's a bit telling that the most (only) memorable moment of the Republican convention was a movie star talking to a chair. Contrast that to the cadre of speakers during the DNC convention. The media and those posting here give ample evidence that in a contest of ideas, humanity and certainly of eloquence - the GOP literally got their asses kicked.  

September 7, 2012 at 6:49 a.m.
joneses said...

How could anyone be so stupid to believe anything Hussein Obama said during his speech when he has not even fulfilled the promises he made the last time he made fools our of his worshipers?

September 7, 2012 at 6:50 a.m.
joneses said...

Hussein Obama said our problems can be solved. I agree with him. But he is not the one that has the leadership or intelligence to solve them as he has only made them worst.

September 7, 2012 at 6:55 a.m.
joneses said...

mickeyrat

The cadre of speakers, or a better term would be "cadre of fiction" at the DNC was nothing but dishonest lies soaked in by the largest gathering of gullible, unintellectual people in America. What people are talking about is all the dishonesty that came from this dishonest orgy of fools. What was exposed was Hussein Obama's lack of leadership and inability to take care of the problems he made worst by his failed policies. The democrats talk about all their solutions that make their worshipers feel good never acknowledging the fact that their implementation of these solutions are complete failures. The democrats are doing a wonderful job of kicking their own asses by their continued dishonesty.

September 7, 2012 at 7:24 a.m.
dude_abides said...

harp3339 said... "In retrospect, after watching both conventions, Clint Eastwood gave the best performance. He sure irritated the Hollywood crowd which is good."

There's that "liberal social ideology" at work. So, the speech that rose above all others (inspirational stories included) was the speech in which Eastwood pretended that the President told two people to "f*ck themselves"? To me, those were the basest moments of either convention.

September 7, 2012 at 7:29 a.m.
fairmon said...

MickeyRat said...

It's a bit telling that the most (only) memorable moment of the Republican convention was a movie star talking to a chair. Contrast that to the cadre of speakers during the DNC convention.

Actually it was the best and most entertaining of both conventions. Second best was Ms. Warren but she didn't mention any hows just a lot of wants.

September 7, 2012 at 7:30 a.m.
fairmon said...

I agree with one journalist sarcastic comment that went something like;

It is shocking how many people in both parties were raised in a log cabin their parents built with their own hands and how they started in a rented double wide and progressed to being well off and on stage at this convention. Only in America can such tales be fabricated and if challenged explained away by I was taken out of context or I misspoke.

September 7, 2012 at 7:45 a.m.
joneses said...

dude a punk

You have never said anything that would make anyone believe you have anymore than the IQ of a grape. You actually prove to me how stupid you are by believing all the lies from this pathetic fool that occupies the White House. You must be one of those self appointed intellectuals who is always going around masking your inadequacies by trying to convince people that you are the most intellectual thing that has ever walked the planet, not knowing that is the exact reason people avoid you. Sometimes I do make mistakes in sentences and misspell words but what is amazing you are the only one of many on here that comments on these mistakes and acts as the TFP teacher by grading the post. That itself is more proof of you showing how stupid you are by trying to convince people how smart you are. Or could it be that you actually believe in my post? Or could it be you lack the intellect to comment on them in a mature manner? You probably developed this need to convince people you are smart when your parents made you repeat the first grade because you did not know what "blue" was. Grow up and get a life.

(For your childish entertainment I purposely made a mistake or two in this post so you could play your little childish game called "Find the Mistake")

I have to get to work now. Dude a punk, work is spelled w-o-r-k. I say this because it is probably a word you are not familiar with.

September 7, 2012 at 7:46 a.m.
fairmon said...

dude_abides said...

There's that "liberal social ideology" at work. So, the speech that rose above all others (inspirational stories included) was the speech in which Eastwood pretended that the President told two people to "f*ck themselves"? To me, those were the basest moments of either convention.

To each his own. You are certainly entitled to your opinion even if I think you are gullible. I personally am not inspired by staged and enhanced stories for the purpose of motivating me to agree with the speaker.

September 7, 2012 at 8:02 a.m.
joneses said...

OBAMA: "I'll use the money we're no longer spending on war to pay down our debt and put more people back to work — rebuilding roads and bridges, schools and runways. After two wars that have cost us thousands of lives and over a trillion dollars, it's time to do some nation-building right here at home." THE FACTS: The idea of taking war savings to pay for other programs is budgetary sleight of hand, given that the wars were paid for with increased debt. Obama can essentially "pay down our debt," as he said, by borrowing less now that war is ending. But he still must borrow to do the extra "nation-building" he envisions. He made a similar statement in his State of the Union address, and it is no less misleading now than in January. And the savings appear to be based at least in part on inflated war spending estimates for future years.


September 7, 2012 at 8:13 a.m.
joneses said...

OBAMA: "We will reform and strengthen Medicare for the long haul, but we'll do it by reducing the cost of health care, not by asking seniors to pay thousands of dollars more." THE FACTS: Some of the proposals the Obama administration has floated in budget negotiations with Congress would ask Medicare beneficiaries to pay more. Among them: revamping co-payments and deductibles in ways that could raise costs for retirees and increasing premiums for certain beneficiaries. Obama even indicated a willingness to consider raising the eligibility age, currently 65, to 67. As word of some of the proposals leaked out, the president faced a backlash from fellow Democrats. He has since said he would not accept Medicare cuts as a part of a deficit reduction deal, unless it also includes higher taxes on the wealthy. Still, some level of increased costs for middle-class and upper-income Medicare recipients is likely to be part of any future deficit reduction deal.


September 7, 2012 at 8:15 a.m.
joneses said...

OBAMA: "We can help big factories and small businesses double their exports, and if we choose this path, we can create a million new manufacturing jobs in the next four years." THE FACTS: Obama has claimed an increase of some 500,000 manufacturing jobs over the past 29 months. But this is cherry picking by the president. From the beginning of Obama's term 3 1/2 years ago, manufacturing jobs have declined by more than 500,000, according to the Labor Department's Bureau of Labor Statistics. Manufacturing jobs have been on a steady decline for nearly two decades. Even though there has been a modest uptick in manufacturing jobs this year, unless there is a major turnaround, it seems unlikely that Obama's goal of 1 million new manufacturing jobs can be reached by his target date of 2016.

September 7, 2012 at 8:17 a.m.
joneses said...

OBAMA: "And now you have a choice: We can give more tax breaks to corporations that ship jobs overseas or we can start rewarding companies that open new plants and train new workers and create new jobs here in the United States of America." BIDEN: "Gov. Romney believes that in the global economy, it doesn't much matter where American companies put their money or where they create jobs. As a matter of fact, he has a new tax proposal — the territorial tax — that experts say will create 800,000 jobs, all of them overseas." THE FACTS: Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney's proposal is actually aimed at encouraging investment in the U.S., not overseas. The U.S. currently has a global tax system that is filled with credits, exemptions and deductions that enable many companies to avoid U.S. taxes and provides an incentive for corporations to keep their profits in other countries. Whether Romney's plan would spur investment in the U.S. is debatable, but it's not a plan aimed at dispersing profits abroad. Experts differ on the impact of a territorial system on employment in the U.S. But Biden's implication that Romney's plan sends jobs abroad is not supported by the expert opinion he cites. Kimberly Clausing, an economics professor at Reed College in Portland, Ore., said a pure territorial tax system could increase employment in low-tax countries by 800,000. But that did not mean U.S. jobs moving overseas. Clausing later wrote: "My analysis does not speak to the effects on jobs in the United States."

September 7, 2012 at 8:20 a.m.
joneses said...

One can read the rest of the lies from Hussein Obama and Biden below.

http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-obama-phantom-peace-dividend-033637499--election.html

September 7, 2012 at 8:24 a.m.
mymy said...

60 Days to Go!

It is still the economy/jobs/direction of country, etc.

Tick, Tock, Tick, Tock!

More Pretty but Empty Words From The “One”.

September 7, 2012 at 8:25 a.m.
alprova said...

joneses offered: "You have never said anything that would make anyone believe you have anymore than the IQ of a grape."

Do you consider yourself intelligent enough to begin to assess the inteligence of someone else?

"You actually prove to me how stupid you are by believing all the lies from this pathetic fool that occupies the White House."

Do you really think that the lies that you tell on daily basis are any more true, simply because you keep telling them? Do you reallyt think that you come across as a credible source worth reading?

"You must be one of those self appointed intellectuals who is always going around masking your inadequacies by trying to convince people that you are the most intellectual thing that has ever walked the planet, not knowing that is the exact reason people avoid you."

OMG...you absolutely had to have written that while you were looking at yourself in a mirror.

"Sometimes I do make mistakes in sentences and misspell words but what is amazing you are the only one of many on here that comments on these mistakes and acts as the TFP teacher by grading the post."

While I personally don't tend to comment when people make spelling errors, I too find it very hard to take anyone serious who follows up a diatribe attacking the level of intelligence of other people, with the word "loosers" too.

"That itself is more proof of you showing how stupid you are by trying to convince people how smart you are."

Well at least you do know how to spell the word "stupid." I always admire people with intelligence enough to use that word in a sentence.

"Or could it be that you actually believe in my post?"

Do you really think that your posts are credible? Or do you hope so?

"Or could it be you lack the intellect to comment on them in a mature manner?"

Do you seriously think that any post you offer deserves a mature response, given that you are just about the least mature individual who graces this forum? Do you even have a clue how childish you truly are?

"You probably developed this need to convince people you are smart when your parents made you repeat the first grade because you did not know what "blue" was."

My, what an intelligent remark.

"Grow up and get a life."

You first.

"I have to get to work now. Dude a punk, work is spelled w-o-r-k. I say this because it is probably a word you are not familiar with."

I have no doubt that it would truly be a trip to see what kind of reality exists behind your computer screen.

September 7, 2012 at 8:56 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

This article from Peggy Noonan sums it all up perfectly.

The Democrats' Soft Extremism Obama is out of ideas, and Clinton's speech was unworthy of him.

http://online.wsj.com/article/declarations.html

September 7, 2012 at 9:08 a.m.
fairmon said...

96,000 jobs added this week which is way below projection with June & July revised downward. Manufacturing lost jobs while services had the gain. Unemployment dropped to 8.1% due to more people giving up, not looking and exhausting benefits. Could it be Obama needs more people to quit looking for work? Does either party truly feel the pain? I think not and congress is full of low IQ opportunist. These folks are desperate for a job, power, prestige and will do anything to keep their job. Not many of them could make a living doing anything else. There are already too many lawyers which is a tough competitive difficult way to make a living.

If we replace them keep in mind their golden parachute which means we must support them in the manner to which they have become accustomed. We enticed them into the position and went along with and supported their life style.

September 7, 2012 at 9:09 a.m.
mymy said...

harp3339: you know the dummies will only look at the 8.1%, but not understand the why of it not matter the facts. Obama policies are only working for him not the country. He know they believe everything that comes out of his lying mouth!

September 7, 2012 at 9:38 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

The lies of Obama:

OBAMA: "I'll use the money we're no longer spending on war to pay down our debt and put more people back to work - rebuilding roads and bridges, schools and runways. After two wars that have cost us thousands of lives and over a trillion dollars, it's time to do some nation-building right here at home."

THE FACTS: The idea of taking war savings to pay for other programs is budgetary sleight of hand, given that the wars were paid for with increased debt. Obama can essentially "pay down our debt," as he said, by borrowing less now that war is ending. But he still must borrow to do the "extra nation-building" he envisions. He made a similar statement in his State of the Union address, and it is no less misleading now than in January. And the savings appear to be based at least in part on inflated war spending estimates for future years.

September 7, 2012 at 9:46 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

The lies of Obama:

OBAMA: "We will reform and strengthen Medicare for the long haul, but we'll do it by reducing the cost of health care, not by asking seniors to pay thousands of dollars more."

THE FACTS: Some of the proposals the Obama administration has floated in budget negotiations with Congress would ask Medicare beneficiaries to pay more. Among them: revamping co-payments and deductibles in ways that could raise costs for retirees and increasing premiums for certain beneficiaries. Obama even indicated a willingness to consider raising the eligibility age, currently 65, to 67. As word of some of the proposals leaked out, the president faced a backlash from fellow Democrats. He has since said he would not accept Medicare cuts as a part of a deficit reduction deal, unless it also includes higher taxes on the wealthy. Still, some level of increased costs for middle-class and upper-income Medicare recipients is likely to be part of any future deficit reduction deal.

September 7, 2012 at 9:49 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

The lies of Obama:

OBAMA: "We can help big factories and small businesses double their exports, and if we choose this path, we can create a million new manufacturing jobs in the next four years."

THE FACTS: Obama has claimed an increase of some 500,000 manufacturing jobs over the past 29 months. But this is cherry picking by the president. From the beginning of Obama's term 3 1/2 years ago, manufacturing jobs have declined by more than 500,000, according to the Labor Department's Bureau of Labor Statistics. Manufacturing jobs have been on a steady decline for nearly two decades. Even though there has been a modest uptick in manufacturing jobs this year, unless there is a major turnaround, it seems unlikely that Obama's goal of 1 million new manufacturing jobs can be reached by his target date of 2016.

September 7, 2012 at 9:50 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

The lies of Obama:

OBAMA: "And now you have a choice: We can give more tax breaks to corporations that ship jobs overseas or we can start rewarding companies that open new plants and train new workers and create new jobs here in the United States of America."

BIDEN: "Gov. Romney believes that in the global economy, it doesn't much matter where American companies put their money or where they create jobs. As a matter of fact, he has a new tax proposal - the territorial tax - that experts say will create 800,000 jobs, all of them overseas."

THE FACTS: Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney's proposal is actually aimed at encouraging investment in the U.S., not overseas. The U.S. currently has a global tax system that is filled with credits, exemptions and deductions that enable many companies to avoid U.S. taxes and provides an incentive for corporations to keep their profits in other countries. Whether Romney's plan would spur investment in the U.S. is debatable, but it's not a plan aimed at dispersing profits abroad. Experts differ on the impact of a territorial system on employment in the U.S. But Biden's implication that Romney's plan sends jobs abroad is not supported by the expert opinion he cites. Kimberly Clausing, an economics professor at Reed College in Portland, Ore., said a pure territorial tax system could increase employment in low-tax countries by 800,000. But that did not mean U.S. jobs moving overseas. Clausing later wrote: "My analysis does not speak to the effects on jobs in the United States."

September 7, 2012 at 9:53 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

The lies of Obama:

BIDEN: "After the worst job loss since the Great Depression, we've created 4.5 million private sector jobs in the past 29 months."

THE FACTS: This seems to be a favorite statistic, because many speakers at the convention cited it. But it's misleading - a figure that counts jobs from when the recession reached its trough and employment began to grow again. It excludes jobs lost earlier in Obama's term, and masks the fact that joblessness overall has risen over Obama's term so far. As well, in the same 29 months that private sector jobs grew by 4.5 million, jobs in the public sector declined by about 500,000, making the net gain in that period about 4 million. Overall, some 2 million jobs were lost during the recession that began in December 2007 in President George W. Bush's term and ended officially in June 2009 with Obama as president. Never since World War II has the economy been so slow to recover all the jobs lost in a downturn.

September 7, 2012 at 9:55 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

ALPO may well be EASY123, with manners.

September 7, 2012 at 10:02 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

God bless Cardinal Dolan.

September 7, 2012 at 10:32 a.m.
miraweb said...

Good to see the spin machine has at least taken notice that Americans do actually care about facts. Next step is integrity - but that may be asking a lot.

Politifact is running scores for both Romney and Obama:

Romney Score: http://www.politifact.com/personalities/mitt-romney/

Obama Score: http://www.politifact.com/personalities/barack-obama/

Their "pants on fire" page is pretty good, too:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/rulings/pants-fire/

September 7, 2012 at 10:43 a.m.
miraweb said...

Alprova - thanks. I enjoy what you write, as well.

September 7, 2012 at 10:50 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

The White House warned us not to read too much into one month's bad job report. Fair enough. How about the previous 29? Hmmmm?

September 7, 2012 at 10:58 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

"Alprova - thanks. I enjoy what you write, as well".

Really? Sorry mira, but alpo's already taken. If easy finds out.....

September 7, 2012 at 11:05 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

Everybody knows that the best way to get the economy growing again is to add more debt! If we could just have more government spending, Prosperity for all! Or maybe if we get more illegals on food stamps, that will work! Or how about taxing the rich people who own the companies that hire people, that ought to bring the economy around! Or let's "move forward" with windmills! Oh wait, that would take us back to the seventh century.............

September 7, 2012 at 11:23 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

Obama's speech in a nutshell:

I'M GONNA DO THE SAME THING I'VE DONE FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS!! MY POLICIES WILL NOT CHANGE!! BUT SOMEHOW IT WILL REALLY WORK THIS TIME!! I promise.

September 7, 2012 at 11:30 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

Obama hasn't met with his jobs council since January 17. Do you libs really believe he's trying?

September 7, 2012 at 11:43 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

Total number of meetings with jobs counsel this year- 1

Total number of golf outings this year- 32

You liberals are either very stupid, or......

September 7, 2012 at 11:50 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Toes: I'll go with the former

September 7, 2012 at 11:53 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

Alpo must be getting his nooner with his Moochelle Obama blow-up doll. Or with easy.

September 7, 2012 at 11:58 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

I'll go with the latter.

September 7, 2012 at 12:12 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Unemployment down to 8.1%.

96,000 new jobs.

Not bad, but not great either.

September 7, 2012 at 12:17 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

It's all about emotion. No sane thinker can possibly believe The Man with No Past has a clue. Has done NOTHING that warrants another term.

September 7, 2012 at 12:26 p.m.
Easy123 said...

http://swampland.time.com/2012/09/07/the-obama-speech-4/

Great article about Obama's speech last night.

September 7, 2012 at 12:31 p.m.
degage said...

Easy you are right, 96,000 not good either. you forget mentioning the 368,000 that are no longer in the job market. Meaning they have given up, and how many of the 96,000 are underemployed. But you are still right I'm glad those 96,000 are now employed.

July was changed by 41,000. Guess someone made a big mistake.

September 7, 2012 at 12:49 p.m.
miraweb said...

The labor force participation number is an important one. It is one indicator of how the face of America is changing after the recession.

I know many people who are taking their Social Security as they reach 62 who might have worked longer if companies were in a hiring boom.

I know other people over the age of 50 who are considering themselves retired, because they know that companies will re-hire the younger (and less expensive) workers first.

Colleges, and especially public institutions, are straining under the enrollment loads of students who are seeking more advanced degrees, getting more training, or who are re-training for other jobs.

Some folks, not finding any other work, have begun their own small businesses. I spoke yesterday to a woman whose husband was a carpenter. He has now started his own business making chocolates. That trend is not always counted in the way we pick up employment numbers.

None of these folks count in the workforce numbers.

We may need a better measure to really figure out where people are and what that means for future job growth.

September 7, 2012 at 12:56 p.m.
degage said...

Mira, My neighbor has been layed off for 3years. He has taken a temporary job at 7.50 an hour, he made 20.00 an hour at the job he lost. He doesn't know how long this job will last but is thankful for any work he can get.

September 7, 2012 at 1:10 p.m.
miraweb said...

The first convention Gallup poll is in. Seven point bounce on the approval rating:

Date - Approval - Disapproval

9/4-6/12 52 43

9/3-5/12 49 45

9/2-4/12 47 47

9/1-3/12 45 48

September 7, 2012 at 1:43 p.m.
Easy123 said...

sTUpid,

"He says the weather was fine so you can take from that what you want."

The forecast wasn't.

"I see that the Libtards couldn’t fill the stadium due to lack of interest and they crawfished."

They were turning hundreds of people away from the arena. So much for "lack of interest".

September 7, 2012 at 1:56 p.m.
Easy123 said...

sTUpid,

"The Real Clear Politics average gives him a 2/10% bounce against Romney."

"Less than ¼ of 1 percent"

If you're talking about favorability then you're wrong.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/obama_romney_favorable_unfavorable.html

If you're talking about the polls, you're wrong again.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html

September 7, 2012 at 2:05 p.m.
Easy123 said...

sTUpid,

"BTW ... The stadium was to hold 80,000 and the arena 20,000. Looks like to me they needed another 60,000 sheeple and not the "hundreds" that you claimed were turned away."

The Tampa Bay Times Forum holds the same amount as the Time Warner Cable Arena. Was there a lack of interest in the RNC too?

September 7, 2012 at 2:17 p.m.
Easy123 said...

sTUpid,

"That's a massive gain of 3/4 of 1 percent ... Still LMFAO"

And the 0/4 of 1 percent "bounce" that Romney got or didn't get, I guess? STILL LMFAO!

September 7, 2012 at 2:19 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

tu_: I must discount anything Bob Woodward said about The Man with No Past. Woodward has long been known as a right-wing hack. Mwahahahaha

September 7, 2012 at 2:31 p.m.
mymy said...

Desperate:

Internal emails between senior officials at The Gallup Organization, obtained by The Daily Caller, show senior Obama campaign adviser David Axelrod attempting to subtly intimidate the respected polling firm when its numbers were unfavorable to the president.

After Gallup declined to change its polling methodology, Obama’s Department of Justice hit it with an unrelated lawsuit that appears damning on its face.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/06/justice-dept-gallup-lawsuit-came-after-axelrod-criticized-pollsters/#ixzz25oIrgZxI

September 7, 2012 at 2:36 p.m.
joneses said...

Clint Eastwood: Obama Is 'Greatest Hoax Ever Perpetrated On The American People'

September 7, 2012 at 2:39 p.m.
joneses said...

The thuggery of Hussein Obama is un-American.

Internal emails between senior officials at The Gallup Organization, obtained by The Daily Caller, show senior Obama campaign adviser David Axelrod attempting to subtly intimidate the respected polling firm when its numbers were unfavorable to the president.

After Gallup declined to change its polling methodology, Obama’s Department of Justice hit it with an unrelated lawsuit that appears damning on its face.

TheDC is withholding the identities of the Gallup officials to protect them from potential retaliation from Obama’s campaign and his administration.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/06/justice-dept-gallup-lawsuit-came-after-axelrod-criticized-pollsters/#ixzz25oMSQlLC

September 7, 2012 at 2:47 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Debbie Wasserman Schultz reportedly has contracted Lyne Disease.

September 7, 2012 at 2:50 p.m.
joneses said...

alpussy

No one reads your moronic post as all you do is disagree with the truth. You are a foolish POS as shown by your lack of courage to not admit you are being lied to by your incompetent messiah. I am not calling you a name but only stating the obvious.

September 7, 2012 at 2:52 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

I agree with Dennis Miller re Plugs.... Obama thanked Biden for being "the best VP I could have hoped for." Proof that America really has become the land of diminished expectations

September 7, 2012 at 3:08 p.m.
miraweb said...

So if I am reading what you said correctly - a polling organization that owes the administration no favors - has the President's favorability bounce at 7%.

Well said!

Here's a better source to follow, TU - you can see all the polls here and compare their biases - not just the ones approved by Right Clear Politics.

http://pollingreport.com/

September 7, 2012 at 3:18 p.m.
miraweb said...

My favorite comparison is Mitt Romney's approval rating (ABC News / Wash Post - all registered voters) and Bill Clinton's approval rating (USA Today / Gallup) - among just Republicans

Mitt Romney 43

Bill Clinton 43

September 7, 2012 at 3:25 p.m.
miraweb said...

Yeah, TU - I saw that the marching orders for today were "full apocalypse" messaging.

Here's a clip from today's GOP email:

Well here it is: When Obama is defeated on the night of November 6, 2012 he will remain president until Romney is sworn in on January 20, 2013, thereby giving Obama over 70 days to do anything he can to finish his socialist agenda and possibly hurl America into such a deep, dark abyss that we may never recover!

Here’s the frightening part:

Obama could grab America before the end of the elections!

How do we know this? Read the analysis yourself.

Obama plans to seize control of our economy within the next 4 months!

Obama has signaled to the world he is going to sledgehammer his socialist agenda into America come hell or high water!

Obama also has stated in his executive order that every government bureaucracy “shall act as necessary and appropriate.”

Does this include genocide?

Will every government bureaucracy have to right to kill Americans? Obama’s executive order has NOT placed any restrictions on how, by what means or any limits on the government bureaucracy power.

Right. I'll spare you the rest. It's a real doozy.

September 7, 2012 at 3:35 p.m.
mymy said...

miraweb: likely voter will give a better reading!

September 7, 2012 at 3:57 p.m.
mymy said...

Food for thought re Obama:

I know of no way of judging the future but by the past.

Patrick Henry

The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them.

Patrick Henry

September 7, 2012 at 4:05 p.m.
miraweb said...

For having lived long, I have experienced many instances of being obliged, by better information or fuller consideration, to change opinions, even on important subjects, which I once thought right but found to be otherwise.

Benjamin Franklin

September 7, 2012 at 4:18 p.m.
miraweb said...

The overwhelming majority of Americans are possessed of two great qualities a sense of humor and a sense of proportion.

Franklin Roosevelt

September 7, 2012 at 4:32 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

"Your slogan is "Forward," and your heroes at this convention are dinosaurs, Ted Kennedy and Clinton. The theme is War on Women, and your two big stars are womanizers? One of your big stars you can't even invite, John Edwards. And then the piece de resistance, the grand finale is a dud, with Obama's speech". Rush Limbaugh

September 7, 2012 at 4:39 p.m.
fairmon said...

Todays employment numbers and revising down of past recent numbers should be of real concern to congress. The president is traveling and is busy campaigning but he can approve anything they come up with that might help.

It would be better to let all tax rates return to the prior rates than to sit on their hands and do nothing. If it is important to keep them where they are then make them permanent since the date to expire has been missed multiple times already. Republicans need to get off that kick of not taxing those with higher personal incomes more. No CEO, athlete, or other multi-million annual income individual is worth what they are paid. Taxing them is a totally different issue than business taxes. Business taxes should be lower without all the manipulation provided for some in the form of deductions, credits, incentives, grants etc. etc. by congress.

September 7, 2012 at 4:43 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Not bad easy? What about the 370,000 that quit looking for work?

What about the 90,000,000 able bodied Americans who aren't working at all now?

Even PMSnbc was crying the blues this morning. You seem to be the only one who thinks this is good news.

So it's really in Obama's best interest that even more people give up looking for work. If they did, the unemployment rate would be zero.

How long do you really think Obama can carry on with this charade?

How long can the MSM hide the real numbers from people?

September 7, 2012 at 4:49 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

I'll post it again for you harp.

Number of meetings with his jobs council this year--1

Number of golf outings this year--32

That's really all you need to know.

September 7, 2012 at 4:52 p.m.
miraweb said...

I don't think anyone is unaware of the job losses from this recession.

We've lived it.

We know what our families, friends, and coworkers have faced. We know what we ourselves have faced.

And, if we are honest, we know that we are better off than we were four years ago - and that we need to do more.

September 7, 2012 at 4:59 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Are you better off? Just 96,000 jobs added in August as 368,000 people LEAVE the workforce in bleak employment report dealing blow to Obama re-election hopes

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2199815/Obamas-DNC-2012-speech-Bleak-unemployment-numbers-morning-Obama-tells-DNC-problems-solved.html#ixzz25ovIqsWX

September 7, 2012 at 5:08 p.m.
joneses said...

I did not like Hussein Obama's resume 4 years ago and it has only gotten worst. If Hussein Obama submitted an honest resume to a potential employer listing his accomplishments he would not get hired even though he occupied the White House. Unless the potential employer was a fool and hated his business.

September 7, 2012 at 5:16 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time". - Abraham Lincoln

September 7, 2012 at 5:16 p.m.
miraweb said...

Every man is a damn fool for at least five minutes every day; wisdom consists in not exceeding the limit.

-- Hubbard

September 7, 2012 at 5:25 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Somebody should have yanked this drunk bizatch from the stage.

September 7, 2012 at 5:27 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

"Capitalism is the unequal distribution of wealth. Socialism is the equal distribution of poverty"- Winston Churchill

September 7, 2012 at 5:35 p.m.
mymy said...

Revolutionary War and Beyond is one of the fastest growing websites about American History and the Founding Fathers. Begun by an amateur history enthusiast, it now receives thousands and thousands of visitors every day who are looking to learn more about the founding period of the United States. "Understand Your Rights Because You're About to Lose Them!" is Revolutionary War and Beyond's first book, covering the basic rights the Founders wanted to guarantee, things such as Freedom of Religion, Freedom of Speech, Freedom of the Press, the Right to Trial by Jury and the right for the states to govern themselves. In a time when the federal government is turning into a gigantic monster out of control, this book is a breath of fresh air that will help everyone who reads it become involved in the restoration of what America was meant to be by the Founders - the land of the free!

http://www.revolutionary-war-and-beyond.com/index.html

September 7, 2012 at 5:41 p.m.
fairmon said...

miraweb said... I don't think anyone is unaware of the job losses from this recession.

We've lived it.

We know what our families, friends, and coworkers have faced. We know what we ourselves have faced.

And, if we are honest, we know that we are better off than we were four years ago - and that we need to do more.

miraweb....

My personal "well offness" is ~2X what it was about 8 years ago and will most likely be ~2X the current "well offness" 8 years hence. You ended with "we" need to do more. What do "we" need to do? I wouldn't mind paying more taxes if there was much less waste of tax money on the whim and wants of every special interest that can get a member of congress ear.

September 7, 2012 at 5:43 p.m.
miraweb said...

There are many ways of going forward. Only one way of standing still.

  • Franklin Roosevelt

.

Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the assessment that something is more important than fear.

  • also, Franklin Roosevelt

.

We cannot always build a future for our youth, but we can always build our youth for the future.

  • again, Franklin Roosevelt
September 7, 2012 at 5:45 p.m.
dude_abides said...

alprova... I see you couldn't refrain from vivisecting joneses. LOL Sadly, we find that his head is full of intestines, and that where his heart should be... there's just an enormous bile duct.

September 7, 2012 at 5:50 p.m.
miraweb said...

Harp writes:

I wouldn't mind paying more taxes if there was much less waste of tax money on the whim and wants of every special interest that can get a member of congress ear.

I agree completely. The corruption in Congress is a serious problem. I also believe we have to solve this with or without the Congress

If the Congress wants to suck its thumb in the corner and look hurt, it has shown it has the power to do so.

The business of the country moves on.

September 7, 2012 at 5:55 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Easy does a lot of LHFAO. Must be a teen thang.

September 7, 2012 at 6:03 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Jack_ does a bunch of Mwahahaha-ing. Must be a Fascist hemorrhoidal Nazi lumbago Ku Klux Klandestine liver spot thang.

September 7, 2012 at 6:12 p.m.
dude_abides said...

harp said... "To each his own. You are certainly entitled to your opinion even if I think you are gullible."

Thanks for the entitlement, that's very gracious of you. Gullibility is something everyone who believes your "fence sitting" should be wary of. While we're on the subject, which liberal views can I hold you to in the future? Just teasing. Nobody works harder than you to appear neutral, and you should be commended for that. Would you have been impressed if some DNC speaker had accused Romney of using vulgar language? Does "f*ck yourself" trump every sentence uttered in Charlotte?

September 7, 2012 at 6:34 p.m.
fairmon said...

mymy said...

Revolutionary War and Beyond is one of the fastest growing websites about American History and the Founding Fathers. Revolutionary War and Beyonds first book, covers the basic rights the Founders wanted to guarantee, things such as Freedom of Religion, Freedom of Speech, Freedom of the Press, the Right to Trial by Jury and the right for the states to govern themselves. In a time when the federal government is turning into a gigantic monster out of control, this book is a breath of fresh air that will help everyone who reads it become involved in the restoration of what America was meant to be by the Founders - the land of the free!

mymy you have provided a valuable link to historical information. Keep in mind in today's population:

o A majority of Americans don't want the responsibility of independence and freedom. The majority like the warm feeling of we are all in this together because no one will notice they are slacking and not being the best they can be. I keep thinking about the woman in the video saying somebody needs to step up and support me and these 15 chillun.

o It is alarming how many interpret freedom of religion as freedom from religion.

o Freedom of the press requires those viewing, reading etc. to analyze the information and not be taken in my a charlatan.

o Freedom of speech is one of the least understood freedoms and is often abused by groups or devious minded individuals. Again personal responsibility and accountability is in play.

o It is indeed intended that states govern themselves except where expressly assigned to the federal government. Cities and states continue to abdicate their responsibility and pass the hard jobs and decisions up the ladder. They will sell their soul for a grant.

The constitution is the foundation of the nation. It has the principles to guide us. Principles are those things a person will not give up even if faced with death. The 10 commandments are the most enduring principles we have and would apply regardless of the source. I am convinced some in congress should be required to attend a course where the constitution and it's history is taught.

September 7, 2012 at 6:39 p.m.
mymy said...

“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government - lest it come to dominate our lives and interests.”

Patrick Henry

September 7, 2012 at 6:48 p.m.
miraweb said...

What I like best about that website is that it shares the same administrative contact and phone number with another great GOP site:

http://www.sarah-palin-is-cool.com/

Whois Registry:

Minuteman, The

3791emb@live.com

1404 3rd Street

Batavia, IA 52533 US

3199319099

September 7, 2012 at 6:55 p.m.
alprova said...

degage wrote: "Easy you are right, 96,000 not good either. you forget mentioning the 368,000 that are no longer in the job market. Meaning they have given up, and how many of the 96,000 are underemployed. But you are still right I'm glad those 96,000 are now employed."

It's back to school time, which accounts for many of those who left the job market. Retirees account for a big chunk of those who have left the job market too. People quit their jobs and start up small businesses. Women decide to become housewives.

It's complete insanity for anyone to assume for one second that there are all these people running around America, who have thrown up their hands and given up finding a job if they truly need one.

But it sure sounds good if you are one of the Chicken Littles, flapping those wings of gloom and doom, doesn't it?

September 7, 2012 at 6:57 p.m.
miraweb said...

I take that back - what I really like best is that they spent a substantial sum on their hosting - in Quebec.

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September 7, 2012 at 6:59 p.m.
fairmon said...

dude ask....

which liberal views can I hold you to in the future?

Legalizing drugs, prostitution and gambling. Regulate and tax them. Allow taxes due to be reduced by up to 20% for contributions to qualifying charities as defined and determined by the federal government. Allow nation wide access to insurance instead of restricting to the state of residence. TORT reform used to be a liberal agenda and should still be. I support pro-choice for women and support encouraging and funding abortions when the mother cannot provide for the expected. Is that liberal enough?

I believe the government has involved itself in so many areas of peoples lives they don't do anything well and for darn sure not efficiently. Education, what do they do the states can't do? The DOE and homeland security are examples of dysfunctional operations. Good intentions don't justify their behavior. Taxes, fees etc. should all be abolished and taxes applied on what is spent on retail purchases. Captures the unreported income, illegal income, black market income, work for cash income. The more you make and spend the more taxes you pay. THAT, is fair distribution of the tax burden. Congress and the wealthy don't like it so it must have some merit. See HR-25 and SB-13.

In case you are wondering I think Obama is an economics idiot that is surrounded by a cabinet of incompetents. I think Romney would find out quick the president is not the CEO and congress will not allow any thing logical to be done unless it is full of pork and favor showing. Therefore, it really doesn't matter who is elected.

September 7, 2012 at 7:10 p.m.
miraweb said...

Ah - gotta love that Google.

The source of that site is Mr. Bob Glade - the co-chair of the Jefferson County Republican Party in Iowa.

So why are Iowa Republicans sending good internet jobs to Canada?

September 7, 2012 at 7:14 p.m.
hambone said...

Bennett could put up a blank sheet of paper as a cartoon and the comments here wouldn't change a bit!

September 7, 2012 at 7:19 p.m.
prairie_dog said...

only 96,000 new jobs. Uh, somebody needs to tell Mr. Obama that small businesses are not going to hire people when they have to pay taxes instead of salaries. That's just how it works.

If the corporate tax rate was cut to 15%, you'd see millions of people hired. That's just how it works.

I guess none of that matters when the lion's share of your constituency doesn't want a job anyway.

Bozos.

September 7, 2012 at 7:26 p.m.
miraweb said...

Corporations will hire when there is demand for their product that they can't meet with the current workforce - whatever the tax rate.

And small businesses already have a corporate tax rate much closer to 15% than 35%. If a businesses net income is under $50,000 - it is 15%.

Jon Stewart's best line this week was "Corporations may be people, but they aren't Americans."

Companies may create jobs. They may increase bonuses. They may hire hookers for the sales force conference in Barbados.

But if they do create jobs - there is no guarantee those jobs will be in America.

Right, Bob?

September 7, 2012 at 7:43 p.m.
alprova said...

degage wrote: "Mira, My neighbor has been layed off for 3years."

I'd say that after three years, he is no longer laid off. That job is not likely coming back.

"He has taken a temporary job at 7.50 an hour, he made 20.00 an hour at the job he lost."

Then I have to wonder if he has not been looking for a better job than the one he currently has. Chattanooga's rate of unemployment stands currently at 7.4%. That may not be fantastic, but I'm sure that finding a $20 an hour job is a tall order, and that would be the case if unemployment around here was 3%.

Finding a job that pays $10 an hour and up is not that difficult at all. There are several employers in the area that offer that amount and that are constantly hiring people too. My wife trains new hirees at her employer, where she has been for six years now. She gets a new class of trainees about every two to three weeks. And these are customer service jobs that require minimal computer skills and a pleasant voice.

There is no reason whatsoever for anyone to settle for a minimum wage job in this area, unless they are totally devoid of a job history or any job skills whatsoever. Then there are those who are simply too picky about the type of work they will accept, and lastly, there are those whose job search strategy consists of waiting for one to fall from the sky into their lap.

"He doesn't know how long this job will last but is thankful for any work he can get."

It's been months since I have read of any layoffs in the area. Three years ago, I knew many people who were out of work. Today, I do not know of a soul who has not taken another job and has moved on with their life. None of those I know who were out of work, were forced to take jobs that paid very much less than what they were earning previously either.

Most have already received raises in pay to rival that which they were making previously. A sister of mine found a job with more responsibility and a hefty salary increase to boot, which replaced a job that she had worked at for 15 years. It took her awhile to find it, but she did.

Are there people who are "underemployed?" I'm sure there are. Is this an exploding problem? Not at all. In fact, the trend has been reversing for quite some time, especially in our area.

One person cited as an example, doth not maketh a crisis.

I know that the popular right-wing strategy is to flap those wings in a pathetic attempt to convince potential voters who are unaware of the truth, that the sky is falling all across America, and it's very popular to pin it all on the current President of the United States, but it's getting harder and harder to convince people of that there is any truth to it, for people are indeed finding jobs and getting back to work.

September 7, 2012 at 7:52 p.m.
alprova said...

Easy123 wrote: "The Tampa Bay Times Forum holds the same amount as the Time Warner Cable Arena. Was there a lack of interest in the RNC too?"

An article I read quoted the capacity of The Tampa Bay Times arena at between 40,000 and 45,000 depending on floor space taken up by event displays.

Seating capacity when hockey games are hosted there, show a seating capacity of less than 20,000.

http://espn.go.com/travel/stadium/_/s/nhl/id/20/tampa-bay-times-forum

September 7, 2012 at 7:58 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

dude_ has a facination about Nazis. Maybe it's latent anti-semitism. Or maybe it's the black leather. Who knows?

September 7, 2012 at 8:36 p.m.
alprova said...

joneses wrote: "alpussy, No one reads your moronic post as all you do is disagree with the truth."

Unlike yourself, I do not post a thing as part of any popularity contest. I might have missed it at some point, but I don't think anyone appointed you as forum spokesman for "no one" or "anyone."

Clearly you do read my posts, or you would have no response to offer.

"You are a foolish POS as shown by your lack of courage to not admit you are being lied to by your incompetent messiah."

And you Sir have a string with a ring attached to it that can be seen coming out of your spine. Each day, when you arise from your night of slumber, you take a little tug or two on that ring. Upon each pull of that string, you log onto Clay's forum, then you type what you hear.

"I am not calling you a name but only stating the obvious."

I'm rather confident that if a poll were taken of all the non-trolling participants of this forum, the word that you chose to begin your last three posts that you directed to me, would be considered by all to be anything but you "stating the obvious."

You are without a doubt, the most disturbed individual I have ever had the displeasure to encounter. What's worse, you are a man who lives a life in complete denial of your anti-social tendencies, your versions of the truth are made up as you go through the course of your day, and your credibility has been flushed so many times, that it resurfaced somewhere around Sidney last week.

Perhaps you can convince someone to box it up and mail it back to you, so you can flush it some more.

September 7, 2012 at 8:37 p.m.
alprova said...

TOES02800 wrote: "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time". - Abraham Lincoln"

Although Abraham Lincoln has been widely attributed with uttering the above quote, there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that he actually did.

Nonetheless, it's rather fitting that you offered it today, as a Republican cheerleader. It describes their political convincing strategy to a "T."

September 7, 2012 at 8:53 p.m.
degage said...

Sorry Al , my neighbor does not live anywhere near where you claim there are jobs. Last year he had another temp job he had to travel 30 miles one way. Do you think he should leave his home and go live where you are ? maybe your wife can give him a job that pays him enough to do that. Enough to support two homes. You seem to think the jobs are every where but you are sadly mistaken. Maybe you can give him a job at your business and put him up at your home. that sure would be nice of you. I'll tell him about you.

September 7, 2012 at 9 p.m.
alprova said...

TOES02800 wrote: "Somebody should have yanked this drunk bizatch from the stage."

Thank you for posting that video. I missed her speech myself.

While I am sure that you have formed an opinion about her, can you refute her facts?

I'm inclined to not give the President full credit for saving the American auto industry, but he did appoint people to take that ball and to start dribbling it down the court.

One million jobs, plus, were indeed salvaged, and those were and continue to be good paying jobs. It didn't benefit me personally, but I am pleased to know that the unemployment numbers did not rise to the level they could have because those jobs were saved.

Thank you again for posting that video. It was very gracious and surprisingly unselfish of you to expose yet another reason why President Obama does indeed deserve a second term as President.

September 7, 2012 at 9:07 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...
September 7, 2012 at 9:18 p.m.
dude_abides said...

degage said... "maybe your wife can give him a job that pays him enough to do that. Enough to support two homes."

Two homes? Wow, is he a Mormon?

September 7, 2012 at 9:21 p.m.
degage said...

dude are you drunk? he would only have to support to homes if he had to go elsewhere. Why don't you get off your high horse about mormons. It tiresome.

September 7, 2012 at 9:35 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Jack_Denny... I have always associated brown shirts with the Nazis, what's with your black leather Freudian slip, liebchen?

September 7, 2012 at 9:41 p.m.
alprova said...

dude_abides posed the following question to harp3339: "which liberal views can I hold you to in the future?"

Harp3339 responded with: "Legalizing drugs, prostitution and gambling. Regulate and tax them."

Agreed.

"Allow taxes due to be reduced by up to 20% for contributions to qualifying charities as defined and determined by the federal government."

Sounds okay.

"Allow nation wide access to insurance instead of restricting to the state of residence."

People offer this all the time, as if it is not being done today. States set their own policy restrictions, but most insurance companies worth a hoot sell approved policies in all 50 states.

"TORT reform used to be a liberal agenda and should still be."

As the recent victim of a very frivolous lawsuit, which was defended successfully and totally in my favor, I would like to add an amendment to that. The loser(s) of any lawsuit should have to pay the entire expenses of the prevailing party.

"I support pro-choice for women and support encouraging and funding abortions when the mother cannot provide for the expected."

What? You're dropping the sterilization requirement? I'm glad to read that you are coming back down to Earth.

"Is that liberal enough?"

That's a pretty good list.

"I believe the government has involved itself in so many areas of peoples lives they don't do anything well and for darn sure not efficiently."

That's not entirely true. There are several agenices of Gov't that operate very well to protect the public from harm, that are operated very efficiently, and that are essentially above reproach.

I cannot imagine a private sector replacement being any better for the National Weather Service, The Coast Guard, The Center of Disease Control or the National Institutes for Health, FDIC, etc.

"Education, what do they do the states can't do?"

Clearly, they should be limited to distributing money to the states.

"The DOE and homeland security are examples of dysfunctional operations. Good intentions don't justify their behavior."

I disagree with you on the DOE. That department at the very least, is leading the way into life without fossil fuels. It has to start somewhere and at some point, and their success rate in granting loans and guaranteeing investments in alternative energy companies, despite all the hooplah to the contrary, is around 96%.

"Taxes, fees etc. should all be abolished and taxes applied on what is spent on retail purchases. Captures the unreported income, illegal income, black market income, work for cash income. The more you make and spend the more taxes you pay. THAT, is fair distribution of the tax burden. Congress and the wealthy don't like it so it must have some merit. See HR-25 and SB-13."

Ah yes...the Fair Tax. It needs some fine tuning, but I'm definitely on board with it.

September 7, 2012 at 9:49 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Sorry, degage. I see now. You want him to support al's home, also. al seems like a decent man, so he may not just say "the mormon the merrier!"

September 7, 2012 at 9:52 p.m.
degage said...

Dude, Nazis? mormons? christians? you are so filled with hate it will eventually eat you alive.

September 7, 2012 at 9:54 p.m.
degage said...

Dude, the truth is I want Al to support him. It would be nice if you would help out. Oh, I forgot you liberals want to help but you want to spend other peoples money to do it. I see Al hasn't offered to hire my friend and give him a place to stay.

September 7, 2012 at 10:01 p.m.
dude_abides said...

degage... It was reaffirming to see those young African American girls in Charlotte smiling and singing along as the white rock group Foo Fighters played "There Goes My hero" in honor of the President. A far cry from the experience of the female African American camera operator in Tampa who had peanuts thrown at her and was told "this is how we feed animals." Your party is an association of pigs who need to feel superior to be happy.

September 7, 2012 at 10:19 p.m.
dude_abides said...

degage said... "Dude, the truth is I want Al to support him. It would be nice if you would help out... I see Al hasn't offered to hire my friend and give him a place to stay."

The only truth standing amidst your pile of conjecture is the fact that you obviously haven't helped him out.

September 7, 2012 at 10:26 p.m.
alprova said...

degage wrote: "Sorry Al , my neighbor does not live anywhere near where you claim there are jobs."

Where do you and he live then? South Africa? What is the guy expecting? If there are no good jobs near where one lives, the next best course of action if one needs a decent job, is to move to where the jobs are.

"Last year he had another temp job he had to travel 30 miles one way. Do you think he should leave his home and go live where you are ?"

If you and this man live in a very suburban area, where jobs are not plentiful, then he needs to move somewhere where he can secure a decent job. People do it all the time.

Sitting somewhere where there are no decent jobs, and expecting a decent job to come to them, is...excuse me...quite pathetic. It's a little hard to feel sorry for someone who pines for something that is not likely to happen, like being called back to a $20 an hour job that he was laid off from 3 years ago.

"maybe your wife can give him a job that pays him enough to do that."

Unfotunately, my wife does not make the hiring decisions for the company. She merely trains those who are hired by the HR department.

"Enough to support two homes."

Everyone has their priorities in life. Two homes, eh? Perhaps he need to realign his priorities.

"You seem to think the jobs are every where but you are sadly mistaken."

That's not what I wrote. The simple fact is that there are far more people working than there were three years ago. In this area, we are currently fairing statistically better than the rest of the nation. Finding a decent job is far easier than it was three years ago.

Anyone who is still out of work, or working for minimum wage after three years have passed, is guilty of one of two things: Either they lack the motivation to seek a decent job, or they have a very unrealistic expectation that a job will come their way out of the clear, blue sky.

"Maybe you can give him a job at your business and put him up at your home. that sure would be nice of you. I'll tell him about you."

I thought you stated that he doesn't live around here. Are you sure that you are not making all this up?

I'm sorry, but I currently have a full staff and were I seeking to hire someone, providing shelter to anyone I hire is not one of the perks of the job.

September 7, 2012 at 10:27 p.m.
alprova said...

degage wrote: "dude are you drunk? he would only have to support to homes if he had to go elsewhere."

I really hate to nit-pick, but why would he not sell the home where he can't find a job and buy one where he can find a job? What's he going to do? Wait until his home is foreclosed because he can't find a job making more than minimum wage where he is now?

How has the guy been making house payments for three years earning minimum wages? Do you know what's wrong with your claim?

Arithmatic. It doesn't add up.

"Dude, Nazis? mormons? christians? you are so filled with hate it will eventually eat you alive."

You really need to get a grip in how to define "hate." Y'all aren't very adept at playing the race card either. Ask Allen West about that one.

"Dude, the truth is I want Al to support him."

I love helping people. I do it all the time. I do have one requirement however: They must be doing what they can to help themselves first.

"I see Al hasn't offered to hire my friend and give him a place to stay."

From your story, the man sounds like someone who depends on his neighbor to solve his personal problems, you know...like finding him a job. I'm just not sure that he is a good candidate for employment.

Whom shall I mail the application to? You or him?

September 7, 2012 at 10:46 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

dude_ : You continue to show your lack of historical knowledge. Hint: see Gestapo. You're certainly a hateful s.o.b. Is that a liberal thing or are you just conflicted?

September 7, 2012 at 11:35 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Aah, but Jack_Boot... my perception of which colors apply to your political ancestry are what they are, which means that black leather Nazis is a theme that resides in your head, not mine, you see. Hint: I'd rather there had never been a Gestapo to see, Jack. You, conversely, seem to be keenly aware of all things Gestapo.

September 7, 2012 at 11:52 p.m.
alprova said...

Jack, here's a short post for ya.'

I think you should consider giving up while you only have one egg splattered on your face.

Actung!!

September 8, 2012 at midnight
Jack_Dennis said...

Eau contraire, Alpo...you two should study up. The SA (brownshirts) were the forerunners of the SS (blackshirts). The Gestapo wore black leather. The egg, sir, is on your bloated face. BTW, ALPO, you should pick better friends. dude_ is toxic. Probably wears wife beaters and sports multiple tatts.

September 8, 2012 at 12:32 a.m.