published Wednesday, February 6th, 2013

Special 5-at-10: Merry ReCruitmas

The 5-at-10 went live early today to celebrate one of college football's holidays.

From the ReCruitmas Command Center at the "Talk too much" studios, let's pick a hat...

Merry ReCruitmas

Today is national signing day, the annual unofficial holiday for college football fans who get to learn the names of the next wave of guys that will offer their gifts and presence to the program for the next three-plus years.

Today, the soft verbals and silent commitments become formal and pronounced. Today, there will be a series of hat dances and presentations about which school this multi-star prospect picked.

We're planning a full-blown extra-ganza across the website today with full details from across the SEC, the South and the area with the decisions and the delays. We'll be in and out of each forum — here at the 5-at-10 and in the ReCruitmas Command Center in the main page of the site — so feel free to roam about today.

Good luck getting any work done. And good luck to your team.


ReCruitmas news to know

What to watch for (it's 6 a.m. right now and we'll update this all day)...

Tennessee is in it for Vonn Bell, Joshua Dobbs, Johnathan Ford and a slew of other guys. ESPN recruiting expert Tom Luginbill said the Vols are one of the teams to watch today. It could be a strong finish that propels UT into the top 20 nationally; it could be a frustrating finish in which the Vols are college football's personification of Ricky Bobby's poetic "If you ain't first, you're last," axiom. So it goes.

Georgia is in it for Laremy Tunsil, the top-rated offensive tackle in the country and is an outside player for Montravious Adams. Side note: If the 5-at-10 clam has another addition, we would consider naming him or her in honor of a recent run of supremely talented and impressively named SEC defensive linemen. How would Barkevious Jadeveon Montravious Greeson grab you? We'll him Jay for short. As for Georgia's last two targets, Mark Richt and Co. likely will be on the outside looking in, but still will have a top-10 class with more than 30 signees.

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Alabama is going to close with a flurry. They are a finalist for Bell and a slew of top-ranked guys. Alabama will finish with the top-ranked class. Again.

Around the SEC, Auburn could close quickly since it is in the mix for Ford, Adams, and a few other prominent names. Vandy will ink a top-20 class. Ole Miss will land a top-6 or top-7 class and could land the top three players in the country according to the rankings.

Locally, Bell picks at 10:05 on ESPNU.


Defending the hysteria

David Cook wrote a column today about how the valedictorians should have their own signing day and how we should celebrate academics as much as we do athletics. It's a well-measured and well-written column. He even wondered about the pomp and circumstance afforded the ceremony for Vonn Bell's decision today and how it will be broadcast on national cable TV.

To be fair though, the following points must be considered:

First being your class's valedictorian is way, Way, WAY more common and accessible than being a football prospect of Vonn Bell's measure. Consider this: We have been at the TFP sports department since 2002, so with let's say 60 high schools in our coverage area, we'll have had 660 valedictorians (maybe more if there were some ties) in 11 years. In those 11 years we have had three five-star football prospects — Gerald Riggs, Da'Rick Rogers and Bell.

Second, this is competitive sports, and not everyone gets a turn. You want a fair and equal platform, go play Upward Basketball. In fact, sports may be the final arena where we are even close to a true meritocracy any more, and for our dollar, that's both excellent for sports and sad for the other walks of life.

This is not to diminish the achievements of good students and high-academic achievers. But the next time 100,000 folks show up for a chemistry experiment, let us know. And a lot of the excellent students at UT or Alabama or Ohio State (ironically, Bell's three finalists) enjoy elite facilities and elite opportunities and elite experiences because of the efforts and exploits of those three school's elite athletic departments.

And you want to know what makes elite athletic departments? Elite athletes like Vonn Bell.


This and that

— Michigan and Ohio State played a highly entertaining college basketball game last night. Two quick things: We're officially on the Michigan bandwagon; the Big Ten is a combination of 1980s Big East and 1990s ACC. Good times and there's a tough match-up almost every night.

— As entertaining as that game was as stunning as Arkansas' thumping of Florida was.

— The Feds have a new investigation in Lance Armstrong. Duh. In other news, tomorrow will be Thursday.

— Manti Te'o has decided to take a break from Twitter. Is this the real Twitter or an imaginary Twitter? Also, after everything that has happened in the recent controversy, shouldn't Manti Te'o take a break from the internet in general. Here's an idea? Go outside, interact with people.

— In case you missed it, the creators of Monopoly have been running a vote to see which game piece will be discontinued. The shoe, iron or wheelbarrow will be removed an replaced by one of the five finalists: a robot, diamond ring, cat, heliopter or guitar. We'll go bye to the iron and hello to the helicopter.


Today's question

It's prediction time:

What do you want for Re-Cruitmas? Will Tennessee crack the top 20 or fall into the 30s? Will UTC hold its class together? Will Alabama be crowned the winner of the day?


Or better yet, will any of it matter in four years? Who will be a five-star bust or three-star bonanza?

And to be fair, let's look back the at nation's top 10 classes and top 20 players from four years ago:

Top 10 classes in 2009

1) Alabama — won the BCS title

2) LSU —

3) Ohio State — undefeated in 2012

4) USC — preseason No. 1; got Kiffin-ed

5) Texas

6) Georgia — ranked No. 2 going into SEC title game

7) FSU — won ACC title and still underachieved

8) Michigan

9) UNC

10) Tennessee — This was Kiffin's class that included five-stars Bryce Brown and Janzen Jackson. Ouch-standing. Of the highly ranked members of that class, Zach Rogers was likely the best contributor.

Top 20 players from 2009

1) Bryce Brown — Tennessee (now in the NFL)

2) Rueben Randle — LSU (now in the NFL)

3) DJ Fluker — Alabama (projected a second-rounder this April)

4) Sheldon Richardson — Missouri (projected a first-rounder this April)

5) Matt Barkley — USC (projected a second-rounder this April)

6) Trent Richardson — Alabama (first-rounder last year)

7) Russell Shepard — LSU (enters the April draft as a wildcard)

8) Devon Kennard — USC (enters the April draft as a wildcard)

9) Vontaze Burfict — Arizona State (went undrafted last year, caught on as an undrafted free agent, led the Bengals in tackles)

10) Jelani Jenkins — Florida (enters the April draft as a potential second- or third-round guy)

11) Dre Kirkpatrick — Alabama (first-rounder last year)

12) Manti Te'o — Notre Dame (dated a number of girls in the Niagra Falls area and projects as a first-rounder this year)

13) Ray Ray Armstrong — Miami (ran into trouble at the U, transfered to Faulkner Univserity and enters the draft this April)

14) Alex Okafor — Texas

15) Jacobbi McDaniel — FSU

16) Donte Moss — UNC

17) Janzen Jackson — Tennessee

18) Garrett Gilbert — Texas

19) Patrick Hall — USC

20) Craig Loston — LSU (he's returning this fall for his redshirt senior season)

about Jay Greeson...

Jay was named the Sports Editor of the Times Free Press in 2003 and started with the newspaper in May 2002 as the Deputy Sports Editor. He was born and raised in Smyrna, Ga., and graduated from Auburn University before starting his newspaper career in 1997 with the Newnan (Ga.) Times Herald. Stops in Clayton and Henry counties in Georgia and two years as the Sports Editor of the Marietta (Ga.) Daily Journal preceded Jay’s ...

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Todd962 said...

Jay, its boy named Sue syndrome. Sometimes its the name that makes the man. You name your son Jerkerious, you are laying out two distinct paths in his life with similar results for both. Heads will be getting thumped, it's his decision if he will be doing the thumping and receiving the thumpings. And just a point of note, you dont meet a lot accountants named Jerkerious.

I say Monopoly gives the shoe the boot and picks up the robot. Robots are sweet. And how on earth did the thimble not make the list to be ousted? I am still not sure that piece just wasnt misplaced and left in there by my mother. If they wanted to please the masses they would put three or four different kind of racecars in there to prevent the bloodbaths that ensued when fighting over the lone racecar. Having an older brother by 5 years I still yearn for the day when I will get the racecar, one day...

February 6, 2013 at 9:04 a.m.
jgreeson said...

962 —

Accountants named Jerkerious? Maybe not. But if you needed an OLB or a safety, are you picking Jerkerious or Simon? Discuss.

The only way you get a robot is if you are committed to doing a robot dance every time someone lands on your property. Great call on the thimble.

Worst idea for a new piece: The Filling. Or the Nugget. Or the acorn.

On a side note, we talked briefly last week about Jim Nabors getting hitched after 38 years with his partner Stan (not that there's anything wrong with that). Heard this morning on the radio that after retiring from Show BID-ness, Nabors has spent the last few decades in Hawaii as a ... wait for it... a nut farmer.

Merry ReCruitmas everyone.

— 5-at-10

February 6, 2013 at 9:20 a.m.
chas9 said...

Yesterday Jay questioned whether The Ohio State could play with Michigan or Indiana. Yesterday's well-played overtime loss at Ann Arbor says yes. The Crafty team could be final four good. And does that neon yellow UM uniform bleed out on your TV the way it does on mine?

I've been warning Wichita State is not as good as you think. They were Shocked by the MVC 1-10 Salukis yesterday. They should not be ranked. Period. The Vols' signature win was signed in invisible ink.

N squared's double double led UK to a win over the Cringing Cocks, which, with Florida's beatdown, leaves The Cats one game out of first. Beating The Gators twice would win the conference for UK, but that ain't happening. I predict a split.

But The Big Blue also has to play at Fayetteville, where The Hogbreaths are ugly tough. (They're zeroes away from home.) I said yesterday The Gators would lose to a Big Number conference team because the SEC doesn't toughen you, so maybe the loss is good for UF. It may wake up Donovan's Dandies. And you don't want to awaken a slumbering reptile.

February 6, 2013 at 10:06 a.m.
JonathanMCook said...

No access to online video while "on the job". So any "written" updates regarding the Mocs would be appreciative.

David Cook (no relation but did go to HS together). Interesting article with valid points. It's a culture thing an that's all there is to it. If the subject wants to be known, there's always the cure the cancer and inventing something that would make Apple obsolete. I'm just saying.

February 6, 2013 at 10:24 a.m.
jomo11 said...

got to admire Vonn Bell for wanting to play for a National Championship by choosing Ohio State. Im sure UTK fans are upset but im sure that UTK's lack of a chance to play for any title in the next 3 years had to factor in Bell's choosing of The Ohio St.

February 6, 2013 at 10:29 a.m.
Livn4life said...

Kudos to theohiostateuniversityofslippingsouthforatoprecruit. I wanted Bell to be in Orange and White but wish him well there. I was told he was partial to Urban Meyer and...the rest is history. By the way, put an askerisk by Bryce Brown at Tennessee in 2009 class. That one year was really all he played in college to speak of. Ark. hogged the Gators, now THAT is very surprising! What do I want from recruiting for Rocky Top? Well it looks like getting ahead of Vandy with this class may be a steep climb. I am pretty sure Vonn would have rung that Bell but...that's history. I hope the Vols get some very good role players especially on defense. I HAD hoped, even more than Bell, to get a top rb. That is unlikely unless the FORD drives in. He may have already committed where ever. Nonetheless, I love the Tennessee Volunteers and will be for them come what may. Regarding the latter part of your question: there will be many 5-star bursts and probably a good number of 3-star shiners but in the end they all have to be coached in order to win. HAPPY TRAILS(recruitingly speaking of course)!

February 6, 2013 at 10:49 a.m.
jgreeson said...

9er —

Concur, THE Ohio State is more complete than we remember. And there's a legit chance the Big Ten could have three of the Four with IU, Michigan and THE OSU.

Fair point about the Gators getting a wake-up call.


David's column is very well done — he's a very good writer — just wanted to post some of the numbers from the other side .

Jomo —

Bell's relationship with Urban obviously was stronger than we knew. We're pretty surprised by the choice but wish Vonn nothing but the best.

Livn(Large) —

Asterisk is firmly noted. And yes, the Vols do have a chance to add a couple of surpises — Ford, Bellamy, et al. — but those may be long shots. Adding Joshua Dobbs was an excellent piece.

And yes, there will be as many three-star stud ducks as their are five-star stud ducks a few years from now. Hey, Johnny Football was a three-star kid.

— 5-at-10

February 6, 2013 at 11:11 a.m.
Stewwie said...

Bell's choice is shocking to me since he went with a team outside of the SEC and one that's far away from home. It's not so shocking though in that OSU gives him the best combination of playing time opportunity and ability to win now.

February 6, 2013 at 11:18 a.m.
Livn4life said...

So is Jomo guaranteeing a National Championship Shot for Bell at theohiostateuniversity?(ala Joe Namath pre-SuperBowl way back when)I will watch that very closely(ala one of the Star Wars latter series movie regarding young Skywalker). Of course Skywalker made all JEDI and saved the world, then tried to control it...nah let's just let it go. You may be right Jomo.

February 6, 2013 at 11:19 a.m.
orangeguy said...

Bell signing with The Ohio State hurts my pride in many ways. Obviously, wish he'd have chosen UT, but I'd rather see him in Crimson than playing for Urban Meyer. That guy is first rate slime. Not to mention our area's best prospect probably ever choosing to play north of the Mason Dixon during the most dominant stretch for southern football probably ever. So many ways this one stinks. Good luck to the kid tho.

Thanks for the early edition of the 5@10. Made that 8-10 stretch much more bearable today.

February 6, 2013 at 11:35 a.m.
jomo11 said...

Vols finishing in 10th place in SEC recruiting . . . not too good for future. . . .As recruiting services get more sophisticated and Yahoo paying $100 milion for the rankings are getting accurate on predicting future success for college football . . .

February 6, 2013 at 11:42 a.m.
fechancellor said...

10 Ring,

I've been to a couple of Senior Nights recently, one at Signal and one at Notre Dame. Many of the kids have earned impressive CVs by dint of their activity academically, athletics and social clubs.

As parents flanked the girl or boy, students on the gym floor received their flowers and mass applause, both were well deserved. This is also the end era and the begin of a new era of life, and and with it, the opportunity to move on to even greater things.

February 6, 2013 at 11:46 a.m.
orangeguy said...

Okay jomo, we get it. You're not a UT fan. Hate all you want with facts to back it up, but you're coming awfully close to trolling now.

February 6, 2013 at 11:50 a.m.
jgreeson said...

Stewwie —

Fair point about OSU being the best blend of each: Chance to play early and be in the title hunt sooner rather than later.

Orange —

Urban put in the hours on Vonn. And we're sure of this: The fact that UT was even in the mix on this day was a testament to the work done by Butch and Co.

Did anyone watch the ESPNU thing? The ESPN folks asked studio guest Derek Dooley about Vonn and his recruitment. It was the definition of irony since one of the main reason Bell is headed to the Big Ten and not in Knoxville was Dooley's indifference.

Jomo —

For the Vols, 10th in the SEC may not be great news, but 10th is better than the 13th UT was in December and 10th in the conference but 21st nationally speaks volumes of the challenge that is the SEC.

Livn(Large) —

The combination of the cruddy Big Ten, Meyer and an influx of southern talent, and we believe THE Ohio State will be in the title game next year or the BCS four-team playoff next year.

February 6, 2013 at 12:01 p.m.
chas9 said...

So, Jay. You're not a fan of every toddler on every soccer team getting a trophy?

On the proliferation of valedictorians: There's a certainty that there are lots of ties (so oodles of valedics) because they hand out A's now like they're candy. You have five to ten tied for top guns in every class with perfect 4.0 GPA's. Sometimes HIGHER than 4.0"s because of bonus points. Means nothing. Back in our day a 4.0 was rare and we walked to school uphill both ways in the snow. No calculators, either.

Don't know how UT and AU will come out of today's skirmish. But at least Butch has a MAN'S NAME and LOOKS LIKE a coach. In the biopic the role will be played by the actor who played the jerk Biff in Back to the Future. Gus is the name of an accountant, and his role will be played by the puffy faced nerd who swapped slobber with Bar Refaeli during The Superbowl.

February 6, 2013 at 12:17 p.m.
jgreeson said...

From friend of the show BlueOval (who is having computer problems) —

Stephen Hargis@StephenHargisVonn Bells dad told me "this is bc of Dooley. If UT had recruited Vonn from day 1 he'd be going there. Coach Jones had 2 much ground 2 covr

Dooley hurt the program 10 times more than Kiffen’s one and done year....It's sad how Jones has to come in and try to rebuild ties with local coaches and clean up Dooley's mess. Vonn Bell is just one example. I've read so many stories of Dooley ignoring local or in state coaches and players.

There is a great read where the UT Athletic Dept did a study on past recruiting from Fulmer’s first year thru Dooley. It really boiled down to during Fulmer's great run through the 90's a lot of those impact players were from in state with a few from GA and even the Carolinas.



February 6, 2013 at 12:19 p.m.
jgreeson said...

9er —

No, not a fan on every team gets a trophy. Playing sports taught us most of all how to win and how to lose, and we use each skill on an almost daily basis.

Oval —

The fact that Dooley was on the screen during the Bell ceremony was the height of irony.

— 5-at-10

February 6, 2013 at 12:23 p.m.
JonathanMCook said...

Quoting Fierson:

"The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga football team received 15 signed letters of intent from high school seniors today, including 10 players rated as 2-star prospects by"

I'm probably misinterpreting something, but to me, "2-star" is almost along the lines of sub-par. Any reason as to why this tends to be brought up like some type of badge of honor, I would like a better understanding.

February 6, 2013 at 12:40 p.m.
BIspy4 said...


Look at you breaking out the big words ... meritocracy. Is that better than gubernatorial?

February 6, 2013 at 12:42 p.m.
jomo11 said...

To JMK- 2-star are preety good for FCS level. Rarely do FCS teams sign 3-star, most FCS level schools will sign more than 75% of class with no-star. . . . so at the FCS level 2-star is a nice badge of honor

February 6, 2013 at 1:14 p.m.
JonathanMCook said...


Thanks for the clarity. That does make a LOT more sense. I wasn't having high expectations as much as I wanted the foundation to remain solid. (It's JMC by the way :P )

I guess what threw me off is the "star system" is usually reserved for where we go eat dinner. Two star usually means "decent food but nothing to crow about". ^^

February 6, 2013 at 1:20 p.m.
BIspy4 said...


Spot on. Even Georgia Southern has had only one or two 3 star kids in the days of recruiting rankings. Manbearpig was not one of them, and he very well could be the best defensive player in Georgia Southern history (Ok, he is, and it isn't even close).

For a FCS program to get two-star kids, and that many of them, is pretty good. If buy you into all this ranking crap. They'll start getting stars even if they get a letter from a FBS team. The Tech commit who flipped to Georgia was a no-star kid ... and then Tech offers, and he's a two-star kid. Then suddenly, well after the season, he's a three-star kid.

It takes good players to win, certainly. But at some point, you gotta coach em up, too. And guys like Saban and St. Urban can do both. Guys like Kiffin? Yeah, that ant mound has been kicked over enough.

February 6, 2013 at 1:25 p.m.
BackupQB said...

Oval - where can I find the article you mentioned about the UT Athletic Department doing a study on recruiting from the 90's heyday through the Dooley years?
Jay - noticed Stephen's article on the 2014 prospects - couple of questions ... How does this list get generated - do Jrs already have "star rankings" on rivals? Heard that UT held a Junior Day in the last week or so - philosophically/strategically, why would they invest that kind of time/effort/energy to 2014 when it was "crunch time" for the 2013 class? Is that a trend that is going on nationally or regionally? In Tennessee's case, does that hurt them as they are trying to 'close' on this class? Finally, did you hear about the kid from FL that his Mom ran off with his papers because he was going to sign with Arkansas? Gotta love signing day!

June Jones

February 6, 2013 at 1:42 p.m.
chas9 said...

Cliff Clavin gets Saturday off.

Karl Rove's attacking Ashley Judd. Back off, Karl.

February 6, 2013 at 1:44 p.m.
jgreeson said...


Jomo and Spy are steering you proper on the two-star system.

In fact the only three-star prospects (according to Rivals) we can remember UTC getting in recent years were Lavonte Barber, Antonio Miller and Marlon Anthony.

Spy —

Manbearpig would have started for Auburn the last two years, stars, quasars or asteroids be danged. Daren Bates was a two-star and he ended up starting four years at Auburn.

Sure the upper-echelon recruits and rating systems are getting way more accurate because of bigger staffs, more camps and growing video/summer scouting chances. But kids who can play that may be two inches too short are still kids who can play. Manbearpig can play.

9er —

Karl better bring a lunch if he's going after Ms. Judd.

June Jones —

The camps and combines are crazy and there were a slew of schools that have already started the '14 process. Heck, UGA may have three or four '14 commits already.

As for our list, it's ours, so we do due diligence by talking to high school coaches, and college coaches who recruit this area from a wide array levels from FCS to mid-major to big-time.


February 6, 2013 at 1:54 p.m.
ordinaryguy said...

Now that NSD is coming to an end...I must make a quick short comment or two or three...Doogie and Lindsay did great work...Even felt a little sorry for Mr. Hargis knowing what a huge clorox orange fan he is...could have told your from day one that OSU was putting in the started at the beginning of the season and was not letting up...there was an OSU coach there on almost every Friday night during the season...To those that read so called expert blogs, etc. it shows they are hardly accurate...the distrubing part are the clorox orange fans spewing hate and vitriol on facebook...narry a peep from alabama fans...sad indeed

February 6, 2013 at 2:22 p.m.
compspeed said...

2 and 3 star players (for whatever stars are worth) seem to turn out to be better players and less problems than the 4 & 5'ers, IMO.

Karl Rove???!!! He's still waiting for those Ohio counties to come through for Willard. Craftsman and Snap-On have nothing on this guy when it comes to the word "tool".

February 6, 2013 at 2:22 p.m.
jgreeson said...

OG —

The backlash can be disappointing, considering these are teenagers who are making life-changing decisions and trying to do what they think is right by them and their families.

Meyer spoke glowingly of Vonn on Van pelt's national radio show this afternoon.

Compspeed —

It takes all kinds. Look at Bama's title team. Robert Lester and Eddie Lacy — three stars. Sure an entire team of three-star kids will not do a lot of damage in the SEC, but Auburn's team last year was littered with big-time recruits who looked like big-time busts on the field.

— 5-at-10

February 6, 2013 at 2:42 p.m.
chas9 said...

UK flipped a Nebraska recruit and may steal one from Southern Cal. Stoops is doing some work. The Cats may leapfrog The Big Orange (on game day, not signing day).

February 6, 2013 at 3:17 p.m.
JonathanMCook said...

the distrubing part are the clorox orange fans spewing hate and vitriol on facebook...narry a peep from alabama fans...sad indeed

"No surprise" I have limited outside media access so I can't do forums (not even really suppose to be on here but I can hide access to this extremely well).

Sounds like Mother Knoxville is suffering from post-tramatic put-all-your-eggs-in-one-basket syndrome. Von Bell is a great football player, but had he chose Tennessee, I do not believe he would 180 the program single-handedly which is what I seem to be feel everyone was believing. Tennessee has to rebuild from the ground up with what they got.

February 6, 2013 at 3:40 p.m.
LaughingBoy said...

Receiver Al Thompson from Nashville was also a three star player now with the Mocs. They've had some transfers that were ranked high and for whatever reason didn't work out at their FBS schools.

Losing Bell is a slap in the face to Vols fans because a lot of thought it was all but certain he'd be in Knoxville. Alabama losing him to Ohio State, not a big deal. Tennessee losing him to Ohio State, a crushing defeat.

February 6, 2013 at 3:47 p.m.
jgreeson said...

9er —

Good call on what Stoops (no the other one) has done. If Jason Hatcher goes to UK, that could mean 12 SEC teams in the top 25 nationally.


No single player turns any program, well, other than Cam Newton. But Laughter is right, a slew of Johnny Vols Fans believed Vonn was heading to the 865. It's not so much angst as much as disappointment.

Laughter —

Well said. And we forgot about Al Thompson. The transfers would be led by five-star Chris Donald. Wow.

— 5-at-10

February 6, 2013 at 3:59 p.m.
JonathanMCook said...


Noted. And was going to bring up Cam so thanks for beating me to the punch. ::Glass half full:: Be thankful he didn't pull a Labron

Tonight on ESPN..The Decision..PART II!

February 6, 2013 at 4:15 p.m.
Maximus said...

Congratulations to the UTC coaches for signing an outstanding recruiting class. Chattanooga really needs to step up and get behind this team that is definitely going to the playoffs this year! Would it not be great for the UTC football team to win the FCS National Championship then.........move up to a D-1 FBS team and become the next Louisville. It could happen! It has been said that Chattanooga is a "city of sixes" regarding women and a city with "comfortable low expectations" regarding everything else. Together, lets prove them wrong and support Mocs Football all the way to the top!

February 6, 2013 at 9:01 p.m.
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