published Saturday, July 6th, 2013

Egypt

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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AndrewLohr said...

I know that's not our President on the left carving the statue, not the guy who said Mubarak and Qaddafi had to go and is now saying Assad has to...Revolutions promoted by the left tend to make things worse. Revolutions promoted by the right have other problems.

July 6, 2013 at 12:13 a.m.
alprova said...

Andrew, President Obama was only behind Egypt conducting democratic elections when selecting Mubarack's replacement. It was the PROCESS that he and Hillary were pushing.

They were not involved in promoting Morsi. However, when he was elected, they were duty bound to attempt to work with the man because he was elected by the Egyptian people.

The President has expressed cautious and reserved optimism about the man over the past year, but as an International leader, President Obama couldn't exactly come out against the man, now could he?

In 2010, Mohamed Morsi accused Barack Obama of lying and of being insincere, when he guaranteed the safety of Zionists in Palestine, during his 2009 speech delivered in Cairo. Morsi called for continued hatred for Jews.

"Dear brothers, we must not forget to nurse our children and grandchildren on hatred towards those Zionists and Jews, and all those who support them. They must be nursed on hatred. The hatred must continue."

Mohamed Morsi brokered a cease fire deal between Hamas and Israel, then mere hours later, Morsi declared himself essentially the Pharaoh of Egypt. Obama and Morsi have spoken on the phone several times over the past year, but no one could begin to call what they have a friendship. It was a terse, very limited, acquaintanceship.

A few days ago, careful not to appear to be taking sides, he urged Morsi to heed the will of the people, but stopped short of calling for him to resign.

President Obama has never even met Mohamed Morsi. Any suggestion that he was in any manner involved in Morsi's ascension to power is ludicrous. Morsi conned the Egyptian people, plain and simple.

Today, President Obama came out and made it clear that the United States is not going to interfere in the events underway in Egypt. And of course, he is being criticized for that too.

Some are saying that he is a Muslim sympathizer for allowing an Islamic leader to be elected in Egypt in the first place. Now he's catching hell for not standing up against the coup underway of a duly elected leader who is currently under arrest in his own nation, calling into question the President's dedication to Democracy.

Some people simply cannot make up their minds but to one thing. No matter where, no matter who is involved, it is always and will forever be President Barack Obama's fault, as long as he is the President of the United States.

July 6, 2013 at 1:26 a.m.
fairmon said...

alprova in this matter I agree Obama's hands off approach is appropriate. I am sure we are using our aid leverage to assure there is no military coup which is also appropriate. I would have no problem if 100% of the American military personnel were withdrawn promptly which may mean a lot of those in the middle east and north Africa die in their internal disagreements. There have been tribes in conflict in those regions throughout history and we will not change that. Islam has as many sects as protestants have denominations with both having extremist. Ron Paul got a negative reaction to his views but it is becoming more and more apparent he had it right. Why do they hate us? How would we feel if we had a civil uprising and some country came rolling in and took sides or assisted in the overthrow of our government? Would we think it was for our own good or would a majority resent it regardless of which side we supported?

July 6, 2013 at 3:25 a.m.
degage said...

Al, Just like the left always blaming Bush and still doing so. The left like you think nothing that happens is Obamas fault. When Axelrod said the government is so big Obama couldn't know what was going on all the time. I say if the government is that big it is too big, and to much intrusion in our lives.

One more thing, If you think Obama's crew Axelrod and Gibbs weren't right in the middle of the IRS deal, think again. We know about the letter from Schumer and Franken(sp?)but I wouldn't put it past Obama's buddies to pull a stunt like that also. You are aware that I don't trust Obama and his buddies, Axelrod, Gibbs, and Jarrett. I believe they control him.

Did you notice Obama was in the situation room for Egypt's problem, showed pictures of it. And no where to be found when our people in Benghazi were in trouble. That's right he had a fund raiser the next day in Las Vegas, needed his beauty sleep.

You are so right Al, I don't like Obama and friends, they are nothing but con men wanting as much power as they can squeeze out of the people that are to blinded to see thru them.

July 6, 2013 at 6:21 a.m.
fairmon said...

Remember the name Valerie Jarrett, surely someone will out her at some point. My opinion is; she is a vicious dangerous manipulative woman willing to take risk to have her way.

July 6, 2013 at 7:06 a.m.
fairmon said...

Schumer impressed me when he lectured the press reminding them there were three branches of government then he pointed out they were the senate, the house and the administrative. Is he brilliant or what? Seems he is more "or what". Imagine him and Waters from CA. as a team?

July 6, 2013 at 7:12 a.m.
rick1 said...

Al posted "Today, President Obama came out and made it clear that the United States is not going to interfere in the events underway in Egypt. And of course, he is being criticized for that too."

Obama had no problem interfering when he told Murbarak to LEAVE NOW in February 2011.

But in July 2013 when the people tell Morsi to LEAVE NOW Obama says that's a profound violation of democratic principals.

July 6, 2013 at 7:36 a.m.
EaTn said...

If Bush's Iraq war has not taught the US a valuable lesson on the Mid-East nothing will. Remember how Bush said we would help the people liberate the country allowing them to elect a peaceful government. Ten years, a trillion dollar debt and thousands of lost lives later, Iraq is about where it was when Bush invaded the sovereign country.

July 6, 2013 at 7:50 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

PT: "BHO had zits as a kid". ALPO: "That is utterly wrong and rank speculation!

July 6, 2013 at 7:51 a.m.
joneses said...

Click on the link below to see a list of companies and unions that are exempt from all or part of obamacare.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2900475/posts

Corruption at it's finest.

July 6, 2013 at 8:08 a.m.
conservative said...

Allah worshippers sure have a strange way of showing their love and desire for peace.

July 6, 2013 at 8:17 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

joneses: It was, and is, a shameless piece of legislation.

July 6, 2013 at 8:19 a.m.
rick1 said...
July 6, 2013 at 8:33 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

The following is a list of Obama's State Dept. accomplishments.

July 6, 2013 at 8:42 a.m.
conservative said...

Do they stop killing each other when the Adhan is called out by the muezzin?

July 6, 2013 at 8:43 a.m.
tifosi said...

Christian worshippers sure have a strange way of showing their love and desire for peace.

conservative sure doesn't set a very good example with all the hate and intolerance he spews.

July 6, 2013 at 9:10 a.m.
conservative said...

Are they all shouting Allahu Akbar as they kill one another?

July 6, 2013 at 9:17 a.m.
alprova said...

degage wrote: "Did you notice Obama was in the situation room for Egypt's problem, showed pictures of it."

Nope, I was not aware of that. Where can I see those pictures? Wasn't Obama touring Africa when all that went down in Egypt? Has he returned from Africa yet?

"And no where to be found when our people in Benghazi were in trouble. That's right he had a fund raiser the next day in Las Vegas, needed his beauty sleep."

Let's say you are correct. Let's say that he was asleep while it was all going down in Benghazi. What could he have done that our military leaders and heads of State did not do?

There have been many hearings on the matter, and many people have testified that not one thing could have been done to save the lives of those men, once the attacks started.

Chris Stevens was the one man who could have approved the additional security being in place prior to the attacks that may or may not have made a bit of difference, and twice he turned down offer for extra forces, because he didn't think he needed them.

Blaming the President is your privilege, and while you may feel that his life should revolve around every single event that transpires around the world, it doesn't. He has hundreds of people around him who are delegated to deal with it.

"You are so right Al, I don't like Obama and friends, they are nothing but con men wanting as much power as they can squeeze out of the people that are to blinded to see thru them."

He's but one man. He is not God.

July 6, 2013 at 9:21 a.m.
conservative said...

Do the Allah worshippers shout Assalamu Alaikum as they kill one another?

July 6, 2013 at 9:24 a.m.
tifosi said...

They learned from the Christians how to hate and kill.

"The bloody history of the (Christian) tradition has provided images as disturbing as those provided by Islam or Sikhism, and violent conflict is vividly portrayed in the Bible."

Time for a history lesson. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christia...

July 6, 2013 at 9:28 a.m.
alprova said...

rick1 wrote: "Obama had no problem interfering when he told Murbarak to LEAVE NOW in February 2011."

You're absolutely incorrect. President Obama called for an "orderly transition of power to begin "now." The President also raised the possibility that the government might have instigated violence in Cairo when pro-Mubarak forces entered the protests that went on in February 2011.

He was being urged by many to come right out and to tell Mubarak to immediately step down, but the President did NOT do it.

"But in July 2013 when the people tell Morsi to LEAVE NOW Obama says that's a profound violation of democratic principals."

He handled both the EXACT same way.

July 6, 2013 at 9:33 a.m.
tifosi said...

Very interesting stuff.

""Much to my surprise, the Islamic scriptures in the Quran were actually far less bloody and less violent than those in the Bible," Jenkins says."

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124494788

July 6, 2013 at 9:34 a.m.
degage said...

You are right Al, he is but one man not God, with a very powerful group of people behind him.

Obama returned to the US on Tuesday.

July 6, 2013 at 9:36 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

Hey Tiffy: Wiki is not a study of history, pal. And speaking of spreading hate, you do a good job of that whilst calling the opposition Nazis, racists, and Klan.

And you're right, ALPO. Let's blame Chris Stevens for his own death.

July 6, 2013 at 9:41 a.m.
alprova said...

tifosi, an interesting article indeed.

I have decided to lift a phrase from it, to be used in the future.

"Holy amnesia.."

July 6, 2013 at 9:41 a.m.
tifosi said...

PlainTruth: I never claimed to be holier than thou. I'm just telling the plain truth. Confederates were racists and just like other defeated enemies of the United States of America. They did not want to live under our democracy and considered the Constitution a flawed document.

July 6, 2013 at 9:48 a.m.
alprova said...

degage wrote: "Obama returned to the US on Tuesday."

I wasn't even aware of it. Lots going on, so I guess his arrival slipped to the back burner.

How 'bout those pics of him spending all night in the "situation room," monitoring the events in Egypt?

According to an article by a couple of sources that some of you do trust, Obama was also in the situation room when Benghazi went down too...

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/10/28/Report-Obama-Watched-Benghazi-Attack-From-Situation-Room

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/10/28/retired-lt-col-my-sources-say-obama-was-in-the-room-watching-benghazi-attack-happen/

July 6, 2013 at 9:51 a.m.
alprova said...

PT wrote: "And you're right, ALPO. Let's blame Chris Stevens for his own death."

In light of all those who are blaming Trayvon Martin for his own death, I find that statement to be outrageous.

Chris Stevens made all the decisions that placed him and his staff where they were without adequate resources of protection.

He was warned that a possible attack was being planned. He was offered protection in the weeks leading up to the anniversary date, and he spurned it.

Was he totally to blame? Of course not. But he could have made better decisions and he didn't.

July 6, 2013 at 9:58 a.m.
rick1 said...

Sorry Al, but Obama has not handled this the same way. You can say "orderly transition of power to begin "now." But Obama has not responded the EXACT same way to Morsi as he did not want Morsi to leave and he has asked that Morsi not be arrested.

You are incorrect

July 6, 2013 at 10 a.m.
fairmon said...

PlainTruth said...

The following is a list of Obama's State Dept. accomplishments.

I will add this.

Also don't forget.

July 6, 2013 at 10:04 a.m.
degage said...

I didn't say he spent all night in the situation room. If I can find pictures of that you can too. Use your brain. Wouldn't want to make it to easy for you. Oh Heck, The Hill!

July 6, 2013 at 10:05 a.m.
fairmon said...

PT the list of contributions to an improving economy is equally impressive. Remember these famous words; "If you like your current healthcare coverage you can keep it, period"! Uh oh UNH is pulling out of California, no individual policies.

July 6, 2013 at 10:17 a.m.
fairmon said...

The AHCA is not a plan it is an act, an edict requiring everyone to have insurance except those exempt and various other exceptions. It is an edict that most employers provide health care for employees and for insurers to cover pre-existing conditions at the same price as everyone in the plan. It is an edict that previously excluded items be included. But, "if you like what you have you will be able to keep it, period". Who do you trust?

July 6, 2013 at 10:31 a.m.
rick1 said...

Al posted "Chris Stevens was the one man who could have approved the additional security being in place prior to the attacks that may or may not have made a bit of difference, and twice he turned down offer for extra forces, because he didn't think he needed them."

The fact is The State Department acknowledged that it rejected appeals for more security at its diplomatic posts in Libya in the months before a fatal terrorist attack in Benghazi.

Al, if it was brought to your attention there was a security issue at your business and you refused to address this issue and tragically a worker was killed because you did failed to address this safety issue, do you think you could get away with saying the employee refused or refused to authorized the extra security?

Of course you wouldn't. To sit there and blame Stevens for the lack of security shows what type of person you are. Yet you were calling out Fairmon the other day because of how he feels about the Martin/Zimmerman case and you sit there and blame Stevens. You don't give a crap about Stephens, Sean Smith, Tyrone Woods, or Glen Doherty as they were noting but collateral damage to the Obama Administration, as Obama can never admit that he is wrong and there was no way Obama was going to admit this was an act of terror carried out by al-Qaeda, especially after Obama has described al Qaeda as having been “decimated,” “on the path to defeat” or some other variation at least 32 times since the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, according to White House transcripts.

This comes despite Libyan President Mohamed Yousef El-Magarief, members of Congress, an administration spokesperson, and several press reports suggesting that al Qaeda played a role in the attack.

Keep defending Obama it really shows that you are as cold and cruel as he is.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-touts-al-qaeda-s-demise-32-times-benghazi-attack-0#sthash.bATTUkJp.dpuf

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/state-dept-downgraded-security-in-libya-before-deadly-attack-ex-officer-claims/2012/10/10/d7195faa-12e6-11e2-a16b-2c110031514a_story.html

July 6, 2013 at 10:33 a.m.
Maximus said...

Like Obamacare, the IRS gangsters, the NSA spy scandal, Benghazi, and Egypts flip from Obama's Sharia Muslim Brotherhood chum, Obama's tenure as POTUS continues to be one BIG clusterfurck. It goes to show that affirmative action Presidents do not work out very well. I wonder what Barry's ACT scores were? Way way below average I bet. Obama is a TelePrompTer reading politically correct idiot puppet of the left. That is all. And Alprova with all the time you spend worshipping Clay The Military Brat you are a FOOL if you are not getting a check from the TFP. I don't know about you but my time is very valuable $$$$$$$$$ and if I'm not getting paid I'm either with my family or on the golf course not sitting on my ass all day posting on TFP articles. Alprova's undying support of Barry The Lying Welfare Pimp is proof positive that he is a mindless, helpless socialist prick. This country is and always will be about the individual. Individuals working to do their very best unincumbered by government and free to take risk and achieve.

July 6, 2013 at 11:53 a.m.
tifosi said...

MaxiFraud!

July 6, 2013 at 11:58 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

Tifosi: Some Confederates were racist; many were not. We've been over this once, pal. Most rebels probably had never seen a slave. Many northerners were (and still are) racist. Many hired mopes to fight for them (legally). You seem to have a hard-on for all things Southern.

ALPO: Failing to see any nexus between Chris Stevens and Travon. (Course it's highly likely that Stevens was racist)

July 6, 2013 at 12:33 p.m.
fairmon said...

PlainTruth said...

The following is a list of Obama's State Dept. accomplishments.

I will add this.

Also don't forget.

Now the list has the same total but is complete.

July 6, 2013 at 12:37 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Why would the State Dept. even need a FB page?

July 6, 2013 at 12:44 p.m.
tifosi said...

JonRacist said: "Why did the TFP censor let me post the word CRACKER when it will not let me post the n....r word ?"

July 6, 2013 at 12:55 p.m.
tifosi said...

Because racists like you do not deserve to be heard.

Like I said before, cockroaches like you hide behind your keyboard in the dark corners of society.

July 6, 2013 at 1 p.m.
tifosi said...

Not at all. I just put the light on cockroaches.

July 6, 2013 at 1:04 p.m.
tifosi said...

I'm Scot-Irish. I have never used that word.

July 6, 2013 at 1:06 p.m.
tifosi said...

"Racism has no place in this country." Glad to see the light has transformed you.

July 6, 2013 at 1:08 p.m.
degage said...

Jon, did you notice tifosi had to let you know he is scot-Irish? Didn't like that you insinuated he might be of the minority.

July 6, 2013 at 1:21 p.m.
jesse said...

Just for the uninformed here are the origins of "cracker"!

July 6, 2013 at 1:27 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

TIFOSI (aka Angus O'Toole). I've tried, Angus, but you're for sure FOS.

July 6, 2013 at 2:41 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

“The fundamental problem of the political Left seems to be that the real world does not fit their preconceptions.” -Thomas Sowell

July 6, 2013 at 3:28 p.m.
alprova said...

rick1 wrote: "Sorry Al, but Obama has not handled this the same way. You can say "orderly transition of power to begin "now." But Obama has not responded the EXACT same way to Morsi as he did not want Morsi to leave and he has asked that Morsi not be arrested."

Sir, The President was opposed to a military coup and his arrest, because he was Egypt's FIRST democratically elected leader.

The International response has been mixed. The EU called for a rapid return to democracy in Egypt. Turkey's foreign minister slammed the overthrow as "unacceptable" and called for Morsi's release from house arrest. Yunisia's Ennahda party leader Rachid Ghannouchi expressed astonishment and condemned the overthrow as a "flagrant coup," saying the overthrow undermined democracy and would feed radicalism.

Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki expressed support for the Egyptian people's choices and congratulated Egypt's interim president. Bashar al-Assad on Wednesday praised Egypt's protests against their leader and said his overthrow by the military means the end of "political Islam." The UAE welcomed the change in Egypt, according to state news agency WAM, and praised the Egyptian armed forces.

The UK urged for calm in Egypt, but stopped short of calling the military intervention a coup.

US President Barack Obama released a statement saying he was deeply concerned by the decision by Egyptian military to depose Morsi, and called for a swift return to civilian government.

"No transition to democracy comes without difficulty, but in the end it must stay true to the will of the people. An honest, capable and representative government is what ordinary Egyptians seek and what they deserve."

"You are incorrect"

You made the statement that President Obama called for Hosni Mubarak to "Leave Now," and there is absolutely no evidence that he ever said any such thing.

On both occasions, he parsed his words almost exactly the same.

I am not incorrect. You are.

July 6, 2013 at 7:40 p.m.
alprova said...

degage wrote: "I didn't say he spent all night in the situation room. If I can find pictures of that you can too. Use your brain. Wouldn't want to make it to easy for you. Oh Heck, The Hill!"

Went there...nothing. I guess you can't back it up. You do know how to link to a post, don't you?

July 6, 2013 at 7:44 p.m.
degage said...

Oh but the Hill did have a picture of the briefing. all you have to do is in the search area on your computer write ( picture of briefing of Obama in situation room on Egypt) and you will get links and one of them is The Hill. You will see I'm right and back it up. Where have you been , you must be like Easy and not watch TV.

July 6, 2013 at 7:58 p.m.
alprova said...

rick1 wrote: "The fact is The State Department acknowledged that it rejected appeals for more security at its diplomatic posts in Libya in the months before a fatal terrorist attack in Benghazi."

Who made the "appeals" and who turned them down? Accusations without verifiable details to back it up are meaningless.

"To sit there and blame Stevens for the lack of security shows what type of person you are."

It's got nothing to do with me. Facts are facts.

Ambassador Chris Stevens is the one man who could have requested more security and to have it approved immediately and without question. As it was, he positively turned down Army Gen. Carter Ham, the then-chief of the U.S. Africa Command, not once, but twice, when he was offered additional security.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/late-benghazi-ambassador-turned-security-report-article-1.1345119

"Yet you were calling out Fairmon the other day because of how he feels about the Martin/Zimmerman case and you sit there and blame Stevens."

Go back and look at our exchange and see if your comparison even comes close.

"You don't give a crap about Stephens, Sean Smith, Tyrone Woods, or Glen Doherty as they were noting but collateral damage to the Obama Administration..."

I invite you not to put words in my mouth, if you don't mind. The President could not have done a thing to prevent what happened any more than you or I could.

Ambassador Stevens was warned not to come in full procession. He ignored that warning. He turned down two offers of additional security forces that would have been provided had he asked for them. To say that he shared some responsibility for his own death and those others, is not to disregard them at all. It is a simple fact.

"This comes despite Libyan President Mohamed Yousef El-Magarief, members of Congress, an administration spokesperson, and several press reports suggesting that al Qaeda played a role in the attack."

All water under the bridge. The White House used what the Intelligence community provided to them, AT THE TIME. Everyone has since acknowledged that the talking points were incorrect.

Conspitacy buffs will forever believe what they so desire, but they will never make the charges stick.

"Keep defending Obama it really shows that you are as cold and cruel as he is."

Keep bashing the President and see much it accomplishes.

July 6, 2013 at 8:03 p.m.
degage said...

Al, I guess you were busy when the house had the officials from the state dept testify, and they admitted more security was ask for and was denied. then Lamb was ask if it was because of cuts in the budget and she replied NO. I watched all of it since I'm retired and can, I understand you have a business to run and you don't have the time to watch.

July 6, 2013 at 8:15 p.m.
alprova said...

degage wrote "Oh but the Hill did have a picture of the briefing. all you have to do is in the search area on your computer write ( picture of briefing of Obama in situation room on Egypt) and you will get links and one of them is The Hill. You will see I'm right and back it up. Where have you been , you must be like Easy and not watch TV."

You don't know how to post a like, do you? That's sad. You should always be ready to defend what you type.

I Googled your phrase. The only link that popped up is the one posted below. No pictures.

The only picture on the web of Obama and others in the "situation room" was taken on the night of the Osama bin Laden raid.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/141129-obama-phones-world-leaders-on-situation-in-egypt

July 6, 2013 at 8:16 p.m.
degage said...

Al, I am a senior that doesn't understand how to do all the cute things you youngsters do with the computer, so shoot me! At least I could find the picture and you can't. So don't shoot me yet! It was on TV too, Obama wouldn't pass up a chance to look good.

July 6, 2013 at 8:32 p.m.
degage said...

Al Put ( july 3 2013 picture of situation room) in the search area and you will find it . the link will say handout picture of situation room.

July 6, 2013 at 8:43 p.m.
alprova said...

degage wrote: "Al, I guess you were busy when the house had the officials from the state dept testify, and they admitted more security was ask for and was denied. then Lamb was ask if it was because of cuts in the budget and she replied NO."

You are totally mis-characterizing what transpired.

Charlotte Lamb testified that the number of U.S. and local security guards at the compound was consistent with what had been requested by the post.

State Department official Pat Kennedy said that the security support from the Department of Defense was "superb, but it was focused on Tripoli, not Benghazi" and that "having extra guards or agents wouldn't have allowed them respond any differently to the type of assault that occurred."

Eric Nordstrom claimed to have requested more security as the Regional Security officer in charge in Tripoli in the months leading up to September 11, 2012, by email, and then went on to claim that he never received a response.

He never once in either of those emails make any requests for additional security for Benghazi, which had two more security agents at each outpost than they ever had in years past.

"I watched all of it since I'm retired and can, I understand you have a business to run and you don't have the time to watch."

I don't even understand why this was brought up today. The conspiracy died months ago and not one person above middle management within the State Department was found to have done a thing wrong.

July 6, 2013 at 8:46 p.m.
degage said...

Jon, I'm not a brilliant gurus but follow the link I just posted and you will find it.

July 6, 2013 at 8:54 p.m.
alprova said...

degage wrote: "Al, I am a senior that doesn't understand how to do all the cute things you youngsters do with the computer, so shoot me!"

I'm sorry for sounding so condescending and arrogant. I didn't realize that you truly didn't know how to do it. It's real simple.

When you wish to post a link, put your mouse arrow over the address at the top of your screen (the www.blahblahblah) then right click your mouse. make sure the entire address is highlighted. In the box that pops up, left click on "copy."

Then go to the text box in the forum, right click your mouse, then in the box that pops up again, click on "paste."

The link will then appear.

"At least I could find the picture and you can't."

I'm not sure that it isn't a file photo. Was it this one?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ac/Obama_and_Biden_await_updates_on_bin_Laden.jpg

July 6, 2013 at 8:56 p.m.
alprova said...

Les wrote: "Can some of you brilliant internet gurus point me in the direction of the photo of Obama and company in the situation room during the Benghazi disaster ? I have searched everywhere and must be overlooking it."

No photos were taken that night. It was reported that the President was indeed watching the events as they happened.

July 6, 2013 at 8:59 p.m.
degage said...

NO, Al that was not the picture. I will try what you told me to do, so you can see the present one.

July 6, 2013 at 9:03 p.m.
alprova said...

Found it degage....it was an official White House Photo taken by the White House Photographer.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/photos-and-video/photogallery/july-2013-photo-day

July 6, 2013 at 9:05 p.m.
alprova said...

The President was reported to have been watching the events live as they unfolded in Benghazi. There were no pictures taken that night, as not everything that a President does or is involved in, is photographed.

I realize that some of you consider that night to be as important as the other night, but who knows? The White House photographer may have had a hot date that night or was home sick in bed.

Not every event that involves the President is recorded on film.

I have no doubt that on the night of September 11, 2012, a similar meeting was assembled as was just a couple of nights ago.

July 6, 2013 at 9:11 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Al. You have no doubt. I do.

July 6, 2013 at 9:19 p.m.
degage said...

I know Al, but you can't prove it.

July 6, 2013 at 9:20 p.m.
alprova said...

And the thing that those of you who don't like the Prez don't get is that you can't come close to proving your conspiracies either.

Some of you believe that the President was asleep and didn't care about what was happening in Benghazi. With all the little moles wandering around the White House, don't you think that something like that would have slipped out, if it were remotely true?

Even if it everything "lacking" surrounding Benghazi was done for political reasons, no one will ever prove it. No one will ever go down for it.

Like it...don't like it. Whine, moan, and groan about it, but nothing will ever come of it.

President Obama is destined to be the President for the next three and a half years and that's all there is to it.

He WILL hand off the White House to the duly elected man or woman elected in November of 2016.

Then he or she will become the next victim of unbridled criticism and ridicule.

July 6, 2013 at 9:29 p.m.
degage said...

YUUP Jon, Al is one of the to blinded to see thru the con of Obama and friends. It's all about power.

July 6, 2013 at 9:41 p.m.
alprova said...

Les wrote: "If Obama was monitoring the situation he would have been too fatigued to go to Las Vegas early the next morning for a fund raiser."

Obama was not seen until 10:30 am that morning, when he made a statement in the Rose Garden about what happened in Benghazi.

At 10:50 am, he went to a meeting at the State Department and was not seen for another three hours. Now I don't know what that tells you Obama bashers, but it tells me that he was absolutely involved in the aftermath of Benghazi.

He departed the White House for Nevada at 2:05 pm.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/schedule/president/2012-09-12

"I am convinced that we live in a just universe. Some how, some way, Barack Obama will pay for his moral crimes."

You'd be better to spend your time worrying about your own issues. Your plate was full. You have your own soul to rectify.

July 6, 2013 at 9:45 p.m.
alprova said...

Les wrote: "There is nothing that you just presented alpo that tells us that Obama didn't have about 10 hours of drug induced coma."

Can you even come close to proving that he was "in a drug induced coma?"

"There is no evidence whatsoever that he was engaged in monitoring the Benghazi murders."

Is there any proof that he wasn't?

"Quiet the contrary."

Sez who?

"The government was paralyzed during the night because he was unable to function."

But of course, you know it all and can prove it.

"The blood of those four Americans are on his hands."

Sir...the blood is on the hands of those who attacked the compound.

The President was as powerless to stop or even prevent what happened.

So were you.

July 6, 2013 at 10:02 p.m.
rick1 said...

Jon Ross, Obama was talking with Hillary during those 10 hours to get their story straight on blaming Nakoula Basseley for the video he made as the reason for the attack.

Al posted "All water under the bridge."

Would you be making this comment if it was one of your daughters who had been murdered in Benghazi?

July 6, 2013 at 10:05 p.m.
alprova said...

Les wrote: "For 10 hours the mission was under attack and Obama was no where to be found. No one will tell us where he was or what he was doing. And the same applies to Hillary Rodham Clinton."

Prove it.

July 6, 2013 at 10:06 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

I don't recall anyone in the WH ever saying that BHO was in the Situation room that night.

July 6, 2013 at 10:11 p.m.
alprova said...

I wrote: "All water under the bridge."

"Would you be making this comment if it was one of your daughters who had been murdered in Benghazi?"

I wouldn't be sitting around blaming a President for what happened, who was 5,221 miles from the scene and in no manner involved in any decision that placed those people in harms way.

July 6, 2013 at 10:12 p.m.
alprova said...

PT wrote: "I don't recall anyone in the WH ever saying that BHO was in the Situation room that night."

I posted the proof earlier today...

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2013/jul/06/egypt-cartoon-caly-bennett-chattanooga-times/#c236372

July 6, 2013 at 10:22 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

bad linky

July 6, 2013 at 11:01 p.m.
alprova said...

No it's not. Click on the two links in my post that I linked to.

Wait for the page to settle on my post. There are two links to click on.

July 6, 2013 at 11:19 p.m.
alprova said...

Just so everyone is informed, President Obama, who was at Camp David in Maryland, was informed of the plane crash in San Francisco, and was being kept up to date by local, state and federal authorities.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/06/boeing-777-crashes-at-san-francisco-international-airport/#ixzz2YKJ8EuVt

July 6, 2013 at 11:25 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Alpo: I saw a WH spokesperson (not Baghdad Carney) a couple of days after Benghazi and he would not, or could not, say the pres. was in the situation room. Sort of tap danced around the question.

July 6, 2013 at 11:38 p.m.
rick1 said...

From the link Al posted at 9:51am. Lt. Col. Tony Schafer told Fox News that sources were telling him that the President was watching the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya in real-time. Schafer told Fox that "only the President" could have ordered backup for the Americans who were under siege by terrorists so the President was most certainly informed of the situation as it was unfolding. "I hate to say this," Schafer said, "according to my sources, yes, [the President] was one of those in the White House situation room in real-time watching this. And the question becomes, 'What did the President do or not do in the moments he saw this unveiling?' He -- only he -- could issue a directive to Secretary of Defense Panetta to do something."

Thanks Al, you not only have proved Obama was in the situation room but have also proved Obama did absolutely nothing expect to issue the order for the military who was ready to fly to Benghazi from Tripoli to stand down on two separate occasions.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/10/28/Report-Obama-Watched-Benghazi-Attack-From-Situation-Room

July 6, 2013 at 11:57 p.m.
fairmon said...

Dr Orly Taitz said...

It is a no brainer which outcome of Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood exodus serves the interests of the U.S. National security.

The question is, whether the U.S. House of Representatives have enough brains, common sense and fortitude to stop the big amnesty. As Michelle Bachmann and Louie Gohmert correctly noted, any comprehensive immigration reform coming out of the House will be completely gutted in the coordinated committee and will lead to mega amnesty, which will completely annihilate our southern border and spell stampede of not only poor masses towards rich Social Services and benefits in the U.S., but also stampede of Muslim Brotherhood members.

July 7, 2013 at 12:12 a.m.
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