published Wednesday, August 13th, 2014

Robin Williams

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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alprova said...

I grew up with Robin Williams. I will miss him very much. Nobody will ever replace him or will ever be as entertaining as he was capable of being.

May he rest in peace.

August 13, 2014 at 12:23 a.m.
ibshame said...

It's so sad to think of all the joy he brought to others and he could not do the same for himself. He will be truly missed. In an early interview in his career he was asked what he thought about heaven and his reply was he hoped their would be laughter. I hope for all the good he did for others while here on earth, he was welcomed with laughter and he found the peace he so deserved.

August 13, 2014 at 12:43 a.m.
Ki said...

I second both alprova and ibshame. The man was a genius. And a compassionate one at that. Whatever troubles he suffered here on earth, may he now know peace. We'll miss you, Mr. Williams.

August 13, 2014 at 1:46 a.m.
fairmon said...

alprova said it well and I second the sentiments, Robin Williams was a genius.

August 13, 2014 at 6:25 a.m.
fairmon said...

This is not a lie just another broken promise where he misspoke or misled slightly

http://youtu.be/68WS5B19LC4.

August 13, 2014 at 6:27 a.m.
wallyworld said...

We lost a truly beautiful soul. RIP

August 13, 2014 at 7:01 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

Mental illness is baffling and heartbreaking. Sad that a man who brought so much laughter to others felt such pain inside. He was one of a kind.

August 13, 2014 at 7:19 a.m.
AgentX said...

Finally, Clay gets one right. Rest in peace, Robin Williams.

August 13, 2014 at 7:56 a.m.
conservative said...

Jesus, Judge and Creator of all, said:

“Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it. Matthew 7:13-14

August 13, 2014 at 8:21 a.m.
MTJohn said...

RIP Robin Williams. A fitting tribute to your genius would be for our nation to finally recognize mental illness for the disease that it is and give those who suffer from it the same care, concern and attention to medical research that we do without thinking for those who suffer with cancer, heart disease etc.

August 13, 2014 at 9:15 a.m.
fairmon said...

Addiction is a terrible and destructive thing that is not easy to over come. Tobacco has been the most prevalent and slowly destroys the health of the addicted while others destroy lives and families even quicker than tobacco. One can only hope Robin William's can live on by inspiring more research to help those with addictions and mental issues deal with them. Just think if we spent as much on the war on drugs that we spend on wars between countries where we have no business and on foreign aid what could be accomplished.

Without addictions to alcohol and drugs, both legal and illegal, the number depending on welfare could be significantly reduced enabling better care for those needing it.

August 13, 2014 at 9:22 a.m.
Maximus said...

For those of you that never attended one of his live performances, Robin Williams could get very crude and nasty. He was, like a lot of comics....Chris Farley, Belushi, Lenny Bruce,...a person that channeled their manic-depressive, now called bi-polar mental illness into comic genius. It is hard to believe someone could kill themselves when they had so much to live for but substance abuse and depression are two very dangerous combinations. There is a school of thought today that people with mental illnesses such as depression, schizophrenia, and bi-polar disease should not take medications that could stifle their "real" personality, creativity, and "natural" being. If you or a loved one suffers from mental illness do what your doctor tells you to do.....take your meds as prescribed or you might do harm to yourself or others.

In the end, Robin Williams demons had their way with him. All of us need to be vigilant and compassionate to those like Robin, friends, co-workers, family that need help with the sometimes very deceptive mental illness.

August 13, 2014 at 9:28 a.m.
GaussianInteger said...

The "War on Drugs" today would be against pharmaceutical companies. Those same ones that contribute big bucks to campaigns for the election of politicians. I don't see things changing.

Robin Williams, RIP. A great soul. I just watched Good Will Hunting a few days ago; his best role (IMO). I feel for the family.

August 13, 2014 at 9:34 a.m.
conservative said...

Jesus said:

Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. Matthew 11:29

August 13, 2014 at 9:40 a.m.

What do pharmaceutical companies have to do with this, Gauss?

Robin Williams was a heavy cocaine user and an alcoholic. His drug use goes back to the early 1970's. No one knows if his drug use was a way to cope with depression or if the drugs brought on the depression. The "war on drugs" has nothing to do with this.

August 13, 2014 at 10:26 a.m.
Maximus said...

Uhhhhhh....Gaus....it's the evil big for profit, publically held Pharma companies that have paid for the research and taken drugs like Prozac, now generically available, that have been the answer for millions of depressed patients world wide. Gaus, folks like you have no idea what you are talking about when you go after so called big Pharma. Big Pharma, mostly U.S. corporations do most of the medical research in the world with a small percentage of work being done by the NIH and other non profits.

Bottom line, people like Gaus do not like to pay for their meds every month so they demonize and go after the Pharma companies. Most seniors would rather spend their monthly "fun money" on gambling. Restaurants, etc. rather than their meds but .......if your behavior over the years....over eating, lack of exercise, even genetics force you to take meds.....it's not the Pharma companies fault.....that life my friend. Take your meds, pay for them each month, and live a longer, and hopefully better quality of life.

August 13, 2014 at 10:38 a.m.

Pharmaceutical companies have saved many lives, including those who are mentally ill and may have otherwise been committed suicide.

I doubt cocaine, heroin, meth, etc have saved any lives. Marijuana is helpful with certain illnesses.

August 13, 2014 at 10:40 a.m.
Maximus said...

Gaus I guess you are one of those "natural remedy" fools. Good luck with that. If you have a mental illness stay away from belts, chairs, and closet doors.

August 13, 2014 at 10:41 a.m.
conservative said...

He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. John 3:36

August 13, 2014 at 10:45 a.m.
GaussianInteger said...

90% of the world's Vicodin is prescribed here in the US. If you don't think that is a problem, you have your head buried in your rectum. Prescription drug abuse is an epidemic here in the US. If I'm not mistaken, prescription drug abuse far exceeds illicit drug abuse.

And again, the reading impaired take my statement as if I'm against any prescribing medications. I don't have the inclination to argue with ignorance that comes from misinterpretation. That being said, it's common knowledge that US doctors (on the whole) over-prescribe medications. We also live in a society that likes to treat illness rather than prevent illness.

And my "War on Drugs" comment was directed towards fairmon, who brought it up; take issue with him Fister, not me.

August 13, 2014 at 11:19 a.m.
Maximus said...

90% of Vicodin taken in the U.S.....what is your point? Victimization? Abusing Vicodin or anything else for that matter is the fault of the individual abuser not the "system", "guvment", or Pharma.

Gaus you sound like a legalize pot guy to me. Did you ever wonder what will happen to ALL insurance premiums if they legalize pot in TN. Ask any actuarial/insurance professional, risk of on the job accidents/driving/household increase premiums for us all. Legalizing pot is an awful anti-children, anti-family idea no question about it.

August 13, 2014 at 11:36 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Legalizing pot is trendy. Ergo gassy and the LWNJ's are all aboard.

August 13, 2014 at 11:39 a.m.

I agree Max, pot has ruined many lives.

August 13, 2014 at 11:42 a.m.

Jack, that pajama boy in your avatar should be holding a joint in one hand the cocoa mug in the other. Then again his one limp wrist alone might not be able to support that cocoa mug.

August 13, 2014 at 11:53 a.m.
Maximus said...

"Here's looking at you kid." R.I.P. Lauren Bacall. A great American actress.

August 13, 2014 at noon
alprova said...

Legalized pot is coming to all of the South, and it will not be long either. Southern States are already salivating over the tax money that can be generated by legalized pot.

Those of you opining against pot clearly have not ever tried it, and the proof is in the ignorant comments a couple of you have made.

The religious right will surely howl, but they will be totally powerless to stop that progression, especially since there are cracks forming in the seams holding those red states together.

August 13, 2014 at 12:25 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

max I am not sure where you or z-buster come from, or get your information. Oxycodone, for example, is a notoriously abused drug created by a company, advertised and sold monopolized to MD's and FDA with a flagrant intent to make control as loose as possible and make as much money as possible. It is a good example of how screwed up regulation of big drug companies are.

Pharmaceutical companies will say, oh we invest large sums to develop drugs so we have to have patents and charge outrageously for the drug to recoup our investment. While we may say, yes that is just "free enterprise" in action, it has some rather nasty side effects. Drugs to treat relatively rare illnesses get little or no attention, Ebola being one example, but there are many other diseases as examples. There is nothing wrong with being a big company, but when it comes to health and medicine public welfare demands tighter control.

You will find far fewer people whose lives have been ruined by pot than by alcohol. The evidence is overwhelming that pot is innocuous for "normal" adults. If you can't keep your kids out of your liquor cabinet or the beer cooler at the 7-11 down the street, you won't keep them out of your stash.

As far as all your comments on big pharma and pot having relevance to Robin Williams, I can't see it. He had a problem of addictive behavior, connie can tell us about her difficulty with addictive behavior, it can be use of booze, drugs, boys, children, porn, guns, women, religion, etc. It is not all that rare, and is reflected in many different ways.

As Williams was quoted, controlling it is a life-long, extremely hard job that never stops. He used an example commonly stated by others, it is like a monster sitting on your shoulder ceaselessly waiting to leap on you at the first sign of weakness or wavering. Medication can help but every person with addictive behavior stumbles.

August 13, 2014 at 12:32 p.m.

Oh, yeah, Alprova, let's all smoke pot. In fact, why not make it mandatory, and penalize those that don't smoke it.

"those of you opining against pot clearly have not ever tried it"

What a stupid and ignorant statement. "powerless to stop the progression" Yeah, "resistance is futile"

That would explain your admiration for BO, given that he's a pothead.

August 13, 2014 at 12:35 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Now Alpy is a weed expert. Is there nothing this little dweeb is not proficient in? Best stay away from the choom, Pudge. You don't need the munchies.

August 13, 2014 at 12:37 p.m.
alprova said...

Z-man wrote: "Oh, yeah, Alprova, let's all smoke pot. In fact, why not make it mandatory, and penalize those that don't smoke it."

You've never tried it, have you?

"What a stupid and ignorant statement."

Whatever you say dummy.

"That would explain your admiration for BO, given that he's a pothead."

Hey...at least he didn't lie like everyone else has done when asked about it.

It's been many years since I've smoked some dope, but the minute it becomes legal here, I'm gonna buy me a bag full.

Anyone who has a negative thing to offer about pot, has not tried it, and that is a fact.

You, most of all, could benefit from lighting up a doobie. You'd become a much more pleasant person. You'd forget your utter hatred for our black President for a bit.

August 13, 2014 at 12:41 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpo the Predictable going with the Left's default post: "You, most of all, could benefit from lighting up a doobie. You'd become a much more pleasant person. You'd forget your utter hatred for our black President for a bit." ever the race card. pitiful

August 13, 2014 at 12:47 p.m.

Oh, you're so cool, Alprova. You're so cool, man. You're so with it. You libs are just so hip, man. LOL What is this 1970? Pot wasn't just invented, just like you libs didn't just invent immigration.

No, I haven't. But, every time I have a conversation with my sister in law and her husband I'm convinced I'm not missing anything LOL. Nothing sorrier than two forty year old people who have been smoking pot since they were 13. It truly is pathetic. Plenty of examples of people who have smoked pot for a long, long time, and I don't have to try it to know.

August 13, 2014 at 12:51 p.m.

Never smoked a cigarette either, but I don't need to smoke one to know that it's not good for me.

Alprova, the cool, relaxed, hip, lib with all the right views LOL

August 13, 2014 at 1:04 p.m.

It's all cool man, just chill, BO's got it all under control, man.

LOL Speaking of mental illness, liberalism is one.

Alprova, I can just see you dealing pot in a school bathroom in 1976. LOL

August 13, 2014 at 1:09 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

The Lefties are such hipsters!

August 13, 2014 at 1:14 p.m.

Yeah, hipster dufas

August 13, 2014 at 1:23 p.m.

LOL yeah, you should try it man, it'll blow you mind LOL

"you never tried it, have you" LOL

August 13, 2014 at 1:28 p.m.

"i'm going to buy me a bag full" LOL I guess you're trying to appeal to the "filthy masses" with that, Alprova.

That reminds me of John Kerry's statement on the campaign trail in 2004 when he was visiting Ohio. He said, "can I get me a hunting license here" when he stopped at a grocery store in rural Ohio.

LOL

August 13, 2014 at 1:41 p.m.
Maximus said...

Inquiring you are a complete idiot. Ever heard of AIDS a rare disease basically controlled with meds produced by for profit, public American Pharma corporations. Oxy is a superb pain management drug it is the abuser not the drug company that is at fault. Painting drug abusers as victims of the Pharma industry is like saying Robin Williams was a powerless victim in his suicide. Robin could have sought professional help with his drug and alcohol abuse as well as his depression which he did but not this week. Like drug abusers Mr. Williams made the INDIVIDUAL decision to off himself.

Finally most big Pharma companies are now concentrating on rare diseases affecting relatively small populations. Hep C is an example. Giliad an American for profit company has now developed a cure. Great work is being done by for profit Pharma on Parkinson's, Cancer, etc.

Alpo as for pot legalization, as things unfold in Washington State and Colorado like the red states, they will understand, it is lowering taxes not seeking to increase tax revenue with another legal but destructive substance, that makes sense. Like the Iraq mess we are in now, Democrats do not seem to understand that there are always consequences, sometimes unexpected, to your actions. Increased insurance premiums and a very negative impact on the nations mental health will be just a few of the unexpected ant-family consequences of legalizing another so called recreational drug that we do not need. Of course most Democrats support legalized pot, think about it....if you are stoned half the time big government Marxist like Barry The Welfare Pimp can have their way with you. Come on people.....think!

August 13, 2014 at 1:41 p.m.

Stoned pajama boys waiting for Daddy BO or Mommy Hillary to bring them some munchies to go along with their cocoa. LOL

August 13, 2014 at 2:19 p.m.

I think you're currently using pot, Alprova, laws be damned. LOL

Hey, afterall, if the POTUS doesn't respect the laws, then why should we? Maybe if you smoke enough pot you'll reach his level of genius.

August 13, 2014 at 2:29 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpoo could make a buy 20' from his front door in that hovel of a neighborhood he lives in. Just think of the lies he could concoct if ripped to the gills.

August 13, 2014 at 2:50 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

Maxipad, you can't get Oxycodone or Vicodin (legally) without a Dr.'s prescription. In many cases, a person can walk into a physician's office, complain of a backache, and get a prescription for pain pills authorized with 3 refills. And I didn't say in my post that "90% of the world's Vicodin is TAKEN in the US", I said "90% of the world's Vicodin is PRESCRIBED in the US".

And yes, Jack, I don't have a problem with legalization of pot in the US. I know you Conservatives have a boner about keeping weed illegal thanks to the right-wing pundits (O'Reilly, etc.). And do you know who else is pushing to keep pot illegal? Pharmaceutical companies and their lobbyists; imagine that. You clowns are so predictable. No lives are ruined from smoking marijuana.

August 13, 2014 at 2:51 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

Sounds like you guys just watched Reefer Madness...and JackDennis, Maxipad, and Fister believe it's true. I am amazed at the level of stupidity in this forum, truly amazed.

August 13, 2014 at 2:56 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Well, gassy, one of the few advantages of being a geezer is that it offers a look at pot smokers of many years. I have friends that have smoked weed almost daily for 45+ years. The effects are stunning...and sad. But i know that you, in your tender years, have it all figured out.

August 13, 2014 at 3:05 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

maxi sez, "Oxy is a superb pain management drug it is the abuser not the drug company ... Robin could have sought professional help with his drug and alcohol abuse as well as his depression ..Like drug abusers Mr. Williams made the INDIVIDUAL decision to off himself...

Maxi, you are profoundly out of touch and ignorant of the nature of both depression and substance abuse. I hope you are not a professional in the field- is there a lawyer in the house?

There are textbook examples of cognitive therapy to treat depression but virtually every study agrees there is a functional change in neural mechanism at work in depression. As for addiction, there are 2 schools of thought, one: it is genetically linked behavior, the other that is is a cognitive problem. Effective therapy in both cases is pretty much the same.

If you have ever worked closely with addiction-plagued people or lived with someone who is clinically depressed you would be hanging your head in shame right now. You besmirch a lot of people with a holier than thou attitude about it just as your zealot Connie does over religious beliefs.

Finally old Maxi sez, " most big Pharma companies are now concentrating on rare diseases... "

A VERY good point. Why are they doing it? Pharma is focusing on rare diseases because of public policy pressure for all the reasons I cited earlier. We can pull a lot of examples of people with a rare disease that a drug can help but the pharma's won't make it. Did you check the cost of the Hep C drug, or the new novel drugs for melanomas, to name two? Gilead has made over $2.5B on it's Hep C drug, mostly in wealthy nations like ours, and charges $84,000 per treatment regime. Who in say, Greece, Zambia, Haiti, for example, is going to shell out those bucks? It is nice they will sell it at 99% discount in India ($900) as long as we subsidize it in the USA.

Should these companies sell it at a loss? That is their choice. Should public policy make the drug economically available via ACA? Yes.

Maxi sez, "Of course most Democrats support legalized pot...and your insurance will go up."

You are just spewing out the tired old lies to scare folks that ultimately work against you as far as youth are concerned. Why don't you give us the one that says, "Mary Jane leads to Heroin, you may murder your parents, etc.?" An intelligent look at marijuana shows less health issues than alcohol and quite a tax advantage for the states legalizing it. I don't use it but I could not care less if my adult neighbor does and exercises good judgment about it.

Maxi you are absolutely clueless.

August 13, 2014 at 3:07 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

What's "sad" about your "friends" that smoke pot, Jack? Smoking pot does nothing to the cost of healthcare, can you say the same thing about eating or drinking? The legalization of pot will not make us a less-healthy nation. And that should be the end of the argument.

August 13, 2014 at 3:35 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

So it's not a health issue, Gassy? You don't want to discuss the health issues? You don't care? What? And who the hell are you to determine when an argument ends?

August 13, 2014 at 3:42 p.m.
conservative said...

Envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. Galatians 5:21 ESV

August 13, 2014 at 4:23 p.m.
alprova said...

Z-man wrote: "Alprova, I can just see you dealing pot in a school bathroom in 1976. LOL"

Sorry. I've only bought $5.00 worth of the stuff in my lifetime, and that was way back when I was 19 years old.

Look...why turn this into a pissing contest about who is more enlightened about marijuana?

I've smoked it. I enjoyed it. It's not something I need, but if it becomes legal, I'll be one to rediscover it.

You will not be.

I don't put you down for that. Why are you attempting to demean me for my educated position? I'm educated because I know what it is, how it feels to smoke it, and in my opinion, God put it on this Earth for a reason.

August 13, 2014 at 4:25 p.m.
alprova said...

Z-man wrote: "..."i'm going to buy me a bag full" LOL I guess you're trying to appeal to the "filthy masses" with that, Alprova."

You don't know anything but how to be a total ass, do you?

You're approaching this issue as if it's political. I assure you it isn't.

Pot smokers come in all shapes, sizes, gender, and by golly political persuasions.

It is not limited to just Liberals, much to your disappointment.

This is why it will not be very long before pot will be legalized in most, if not all States. The accompanying tax money will be the catalyst that brings it about.

August 13, 2014 at 4:31 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

"God put it on this Earth for a reason". hahaha...is that your "educated" opinion, Alpy?

August 13, 2014 at 4:33 p.m.
alprova said...

Z-man wrote: "I think you're currently using pot, Alprova, laws be damned. LOL"

I assure you I do not.

"Hey, afterall, if the POTUS doesn't respect the laws, then why should we? Maybe if you smoke enough pot you'll reach his level of genius."

I hate to remind you of this, because it will probably send you into a tailspin, Barack Obama will forever be known as a President of the United States, and you will be known as a complete nobody.

Do you ever think about that before you fire up to whine about the President?

He will always be a great man. History will be very kind to him. Your criticism, if that's what you call it, will never be read outside of this forum.

Be proud of all you have achieved, Pinocchio the puppet.

August 13, 2014 at 4:37 p.m.

Jack, these posts in defense of pot tell me everything I need to know about pot smokers.

August 13, 2014 at 4:40 p.m.
alprova said...

Jackie the whiner wrote: "Alpoo could make a buy 20' from his front door in that hovel of a neighborhood he lives in."

You have not the first clue where I live, much less the neighborhood involved. I have stated several times that the property you Googled on Manor Lane was undeveloped grazing land and I sold it a year ago.

The home I live in is brand new and all ground level to accommodate my disabilities. Best of all, it's totally paid for.

August 13, 2014 at 4:45 p.m.
alprova said...

Jackie wrote: "I have friends that have smoked weed almost daily for 45+ years. The effects are stunning...and sad. But i know that you, in your tender years, have it all figured out."

Please...enlighten the peanut gallery by reciting those "stunning" effects of long time use of Marijuana.

I can't wait to read that.

August 13, 2014 at 4:48 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

alpo said "The home I live in is brand new and all ground level to accommodate my disabilities. Best of all, it's totally paid for." IF it's paid for, you had nothing to do with it. As to the stunning effects....oh things like loss of memory, far off looks, general malaise, etc. ...laugh if you like, I'm just telling you what I observe.

August 13, 2014 at 4:56 p.m.
alprova said...

Jackie wrote: "..."God put it on this Earth for a reason". hahaha...is that your "educated" opinion, Alpy?"

There you go again, challenging the adults in an adult conversation. Will you PLEASE go back to the kiddie's table?

Genesis 1:11-12 - 11 "Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so."

12 "The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good."

"And God saw that it was good."

That's good enough for me.

August 13, 2014 at 4:57 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

yeah, Zab. I don't really give a rat's ass either way about legalized weed. Just trying to point out evidence I've seen first hand. They can take it or leave it. No sweat off me.

August 13, 2014 at 4:58 p.m.
alprova said...

Jackie wrote: "IF it's paid for, you had nothing to do with it."

I'm certainly not going to argue with you about or even respond to stupid statements you make that are absolutely none of your business.

You know exactly zilch about me, other than what I choose to reveal and have revealed.

"As to the stunning effects....oh things like loss of memory, far off looks, general malaise, etc. ...laugh if you like, I'm just telling you what I observe."

You stole a picture from my Facebook page. You're basing all the above on that? You've never even met me, but you will. Soon.

August 13, 2014 at 5:04 p.m.
alprova said...

Jackie wrote: "Just trying to point out evidence I've seen first hand. They can take it or leave it. No sweat off me."

What is that evidence you claim to have seen?

You're always full of sh!t and this time will certainly be no different.

You can head of another charge of lying by divulging what it is that you have seen.

Shall I hold my breath?

August 13, 2014 at 5:06 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

I didn't steal anything, Pudge. Your FB pic is not exactly classified information. Can't wait to meet you. Rest up. I want you to be at 100%. Bwahahahahaha

August 13, 2014 at 5:07 p.m.
alprova said...

Jackie, how about those "sad effects" of long time pot use?

What are they?

You idiot.

You're lying and you know it.

You can't keep from lying.

"I'm Jack Dana Dennis, but that's not a very good picture..."

You're pathetic.

August 13, 2014 at 5:15 p.m.
Maximus said...

Inquiring.....Gilead charging what the market value of he Hep C drug is worth. Pure and simple. Most insurance companies are paying for it since the cure is cheaper than long term care or liver transplant. Without the profit motive we would not have put men on the moon. Do you think Martin Marietta built those Apollo rocket engines for free or did IBM manage mission control at no charge? As for Ebola, more than likely it will be an American company that finds a confirmed eradication or cure for a price of course. African guvments will be happy pay the freight for treating their citizens since no African guvment is corrupt....riiiiiiight?

As forgot legalization, it will create more "have nots" to be taken care of by the nanny state. What we need is a drug that increase work ethic, motivation, personal accountability and SELF reliance........wait a damn minute....we have it.....the Republican Party! The world is Darwinian, pot will weed out the gene pool by creating more losers like Alprova and Inquiringmindless. Saying that addicts like Robin Williams are victims insults those that have taken control of their lives by taking personal responsibility to seek help and conquer the disease.

August 13, 2014 at 5:18 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpy, you're known as a liar, now you're just being silly. Why would I lie about an issue I don't really give a sh!t about? You're just sore because I've exposed you as a serial liar.

August 13, 2014 at 5:21 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

Maxi spoken like a true Loius XV'ier. You are just a typical Red elitist wondering why people don't just eat their cake.

We got to the moon not via "free market enterprise," but rather via tax and spend government policies. You think Pratt Whitney, GE, Thiokol and all the other rocket engine folks spent their OWN money developing those rockets??

The US taxpayers used NASA/DoD to PAY to get to the moon. It was pure government corporate social economic welfare. To top it off, the real value of the (political) exercise to get to the moon is minuscule compared to satellite and remote sensing methods used decades later. Profit was surely made by all at the feeding trough of the public corporate dole, and fanning the cold war. Those were to two primary objectives.

Don't you even read history? Give us a break, you can't even remember the words of the last respectable Red president. Welfare is ok if it is for corporate persons who need help to survive in a cold, cruel profit-driven world.

Yessiree, the Red party has been really successful helping America create a positive work ethic ,blah, blah, blah so far: the Great Depression, WWII, savings and loan crash of the 70's the collapse of the housing market and economic crash in the 2000's, treat business like it is a person,the war in Viet Nam, the illegal wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Patriot Act, the dumping of mentally ill persons into the street from hospital facilities by Reagan that caused the massive homeless problem, Maddox ax-handles, George Wallace, Watergate, Iran-Contra and the beat goes on, and on.

I hate to say it again, but your comments concerning Robin Williams as an addict who ought "to take control of [his] li[fe] by taking personal responsibility to seek help and conquer the disease" is blatantly ignorant of causes and treatment of alcoholism and depression. Have you ever been to a 12 step program, the most successful method to break alcoholism? Do they say they have the power to help themselves?

You are the type who would say all a paraplegic person has to do to walk is just stand up and walk, if they had faith they would be healed by God. If the can't do it, they are just sinners who deserve what they get because that is why they are handicapped. Talk about 1 brick short...your commentary is reprehensible and borderline bigotry (i.e., "African guvments will be happy pay the freight for treating their citizens since no African guvment is corrupt....riiiiiiight?")

You put yourself up there in the rarified air of the great hairdresser from Soddy Daisy, but I'm sure you take that as a compliment.

Oh, and you fully misunderstand the THEORY of Darwinism.

August 13, 2014 at 5:55 p.m.
Maximus said...

Collapse of the housing market a direct result of the Democrat social engineering melding called the Federal Home Loan Reinvestment act giving mortgage loans to those that could not possibly afford it. Bill Clinton was behind that bill filled with so called "good intentions" and zero accountability. Again, you radical leftist Democrats I think based on your awful childhood just can't get over the fact that since the beginning of time there will always be the "haves" and the "have nots" in a Democratic society. The only way complete "fairness" for the have nots can be accomplished is through the so called "worker paradise" found in Cuba, North Korea, and most Islamic monarchies. Inquiring minds, my advice to you.....move to Cuba. I am sure you can smoke ALL the pot you want there. As for the future for you and your kids.......enforced mediocrity by the elitist ruling class. Good times for a lazy leftist!

August 13, 2014 at 6:32 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

"Jack, these posts in defense of pot tell me everything I need to know about pot smokers."

And what's that supposed to mean? Aren't you Conservatives all about personal freedom/liberty? It's cool to have all the guns and ammo you want (which cause numerous deaths each year), but not cool to smoke a joint in the confines of your home? It's cool to be able to go to the store and buy a carton of Camel NonFilters, which are medically proven to cause cancer, heart disease, emphysema, etc., but not cool to be able to go to the store and buy some weed, which has never but medically shown (in decades of study) to cause any long-term medical problems? Makes a ton of sense.

And before you guys with the maturity start calling me a Pothead or a Stoner, it has been about a decade since the last time I smoked pot. And you can probably count on one hand the number of times I smoked it. But like Jack, I have "friends" that smoke it occasionally. I'll take being around a person that is stoned over a person that is belligerently drunk any day of the week.

Guaranteed pot would make Fister less of a dick. Not so uptight. But on 2nd thought, I'm sure he'd try to find a way to blame Obama when his stash was gone.

August 13, 2014 at 6:39 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

"Collapse of the housing market a direct result of the Democrat social engineering melding called the Federal Home Loan Reinvestment act giving mortgage loans to those that could not possibly afford it."

That is the biggest load of BS I have ever read. That was debunked the second right-wing pundits attempted to pass it on ignorant saps, such as yourself.

August 13, 2014 at 6:41 p.m.
ibshame said...

"zableedofisterix said... Hey, afterall, if the POTUS doesn't respect the laws, then why should we? Maybe if you smoke enough pot you'll reach his level of genius."

You are such a pathetic loser. In the last two weeks less than 50 miles from Hamilton County they have found at least $40 million dollars worth of marijuana. Long before anyone had ever heard the name Barack Obama marijuana was the #1 CASH CROP in Tennessee even though it was illegal. Now that marijuana has been legalized in at least two states and de criminalized in other states, it's just a matter of time before it is legalized in all 50 states and that is what REDS fear most. Put legalization of marijuana on a ballot and people will go to the polls en masse, and that scares the crap out of REDS because they know they wouldn't stand a chance at winning a seat on the city council let alone a Congressional seat.

August 13, 2014 at 6:43 p.m.
Maximus said...

Legalizing pot is no question an "anti-family" initiative. Do we really really need another legalized way to escape Reality and live a life of low expectations and guvment dependence. Many in this country already aspire to a pack of smokes and a six pack at the end of the work day. Low expectations create voter apathy and depression, just what the leftist Democrats want. What 's next? Five weeks of guvment subsidized "holiday" and a country that can't defend itself? Wine and Brie anyone? Can you speak French?

All the pot seekers on this forum are just another example of just how soft and weak anyone, especially a "man" , the radical left Democrat party has become. I can see it now, little Johnny is home from his guvment subsidized dinner at guvment subsidized"extended day" and he wants Mom or Dad to read with him and do homework. Mom say...."Wow, dude, I'm just chilling with this doobie....ask your Dad? We'll...Dad is out selling pot...can't help you!" Unexpected consequences are a biatch!

Legalized pot, like the state tax/lottery will create more "have nots" in the U.S. That, my wacky hippy liberals is a FACT!

August 13, 2014 at 7:12 p.m.

Of course, ing, you sage of this forum, the more stoned people are the more likely they are to vote for liberals/Democrats.

You libs vision for America, and your vision in general, is frightening.

Pot,abortion,sodomy, free stuff form the gov., no borders, more and more intrusion into our lives, criminals being praised because it benefits you, denying that there's antisemitism.

Ghastly.

I got news for you, genius, elitists are libs and they're running this country.

August 13, 2014 at 7:12 p.m.
ibshame said...

The Ten worst states to live in the United States are mostly RED states. Tennessee tops the list. As far as quality of life and the best place to raise a family, Tennessee ain't it, so explain how legalizing marijuana would make the state any worse>

"1. Tennessee: The violent crime rate in the Volunteer State is the worst in the country, according to the most recent full year of FBI statistics from 2012, although the state says crime declined last year. Tennesseans might want to volunteer to exercise a little more—fewer than half frequently do so. Health is poor, with high rates of diabetes and obesity. Roughly a quarter of adults are smokers. Based on these numbers, when they sing the blues in Memphis, they mean it. •2014 Quality of Life score: 63 points (out of 300) •Weaknesses: Crime, health, environment •Strengths: Music and barbecue •2013 Quality of Life rank: 49 •2014 Top States overall rank: 14"

http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/26031362/tennessee-tops-americas-10-worst-states-to-live-in

August 13, 2014 at 7:57 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

boys, we really hit a sensitive nerve here.

I do not remember the last time i read so much absolutely dream-state right-wing delusions. Social engineering caused the S&L meltdown? I wonder if Maxi was when born when the S&L crash occurred, he should go to the library and read some newspaper articles of the era. Definitely they occupy an alternate reality.

I would not be surprised if someone is stoned on something - too much methanol in the 'shine, i guess, maybe a cholesterol high. Z is really on it today, i think he is connie incognito, he is starting to sound very much the same.

Notice old Maxi never argued with me about how justified I am moving into his house while he was gone to work, since I live in the same state. Guess he agrees you can just move into someone's property and kick them out just for kicks.

August 13, 2014 at 8:02 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

"Legalizing pot is no question an "anti-family" initiative. Do we really really need another legalized way to escape Reality and live a life of low expectations and guvment dependence."

What's this "we" crap? You said you are against marijuana; fine, no one says you have to smoke it because it's legal. And I guess the second part of your premise is that only the poor and needy abuse substances? I guess that's who's buying hundred dollar bottles of wine and expensive scotch? Even Rush, who's hardly "guvment dependent", had to escape reality popping Oxy's like they were M&M's. You are seriously a moron.

August 13, 2014 at 8:04 p.m.
Ki said...

And in the meantime, news may not read about in America/happening in America:

"Frisco Texas teen accused of killing strict parents who homeschooled him"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2722879/Home-schooled-boy-16-banned-soda-Internet-PG-13-movies-arrested-shooting-dead-strict-parents.html

August 13, 2014 at 8:34 p.m.
Maximus said...

Gaus....my point is that pot should not be legalized because morons like you will grow even more trifling than you already are. Legalized pot will be consumed primarily by the same group of have nots that you see every day at the convenience store at five o'clock buying their smokes, 12 pack of natty light, and a lotto ticket.

As for Darwin, his primary thesis was natural selection governed by the survival of the fittest. Of course had zobamer and you loser lazy lefty Democrats existed while we were all tadpoles working hard to evolve we would still be tadpoles living the short life of tadpoles while enjoying some guvment tadpole entitlement program.

Finally, expensive scotch is quite good in moderation of course. Legalized pot is a very very bad idea for American Democratic society. Case closed.

And Inquiring...moving into my house? Oh we'll may I introduce you to Mr. Winchester! Lol!

August 13, 2014 at 9:02 p.m.
rengerry said...

How very predictable you self-righteous asses are in a tribute to Robin Williams. How very sad as well.

August 13, 2014 at 9:05 p.m.
fairmon said...

GaussianInteger said...

The "War on Drugs" today would be against pharmaceutical companies. Those same ones that contribute big bucks to campaigns for the election of politicians. I don't see things changing.

Legal drugs are nor dispensed without a prescription and the dose etc. is established by responsible vendors. However, the problem is too lose prescribers and abusers by users. The war on drugs could address those problems plus the illegal killers making criminals wealthy.

Pot often equals apathy and can for some be the gateway drug to real serious addiction. It also has some very valid medicinal benefits. No one here knows the answer to the many issues which is why a better funded program with more capable staffing is needed.

This government could not manage and will not initiate such since it is not a vote getter.

August 13, 2014 at 9:06 p.m.
alprova said...

Jackie the whiner wrote: "Alpy, you're known as a liar, now you're just being silly."

No one knows me to have lied about a thing.

"Why would I lie about an issue I don't really give a sh!t about?"

That's the question I have been asking you since May 18, 2014. Why did you lie about that?

"You're just sore because I've exposed you as a serial liar."

Idiot...you haven't exposed me for a damn thing. You're delusional, quite insane, and totally pathetic.

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270586

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270592

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270593

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270595

August 13, 2014 at 9:09 p.m.
Maximus said...

70% of the population in the U.K. smoke according to R.J. Reynolds data. Oh we'll, so much for socialized medicine changing behaviors and creating better outcomes.

And....legalizing pot will continue to weed out...get it....weed out the winners and the losers in society. Think pot enhances athletic performance or sharpens your analytical skills...think again. Regular use of pot, especially for teens and young adults will make you one thing.....a stupid entitled lazy good for nothing trifling Democrat that disappears when the work whistle blows. I drug screen my employees and have fired many of them for pot use. Why....they did not perform to standard.

August 13, 2014 at 9:14 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

gassy says "Jack, these posts in defense of pot tell me everything I need to know about pot smokers." so gassy, is that something I supposedly said? Hmmm?

August 13, 2014 at 9:19 p.m.
alprova said...

Maximyth wrote: "Collapse of the housing market a direct result of the Democrat social engineering melding called the Federal Home Loan Reinvestment act giving mortgage loans to those that could not possibly afford it. Bill Clinton was behind that bill filled with so called "good intentions" and zero accountability."

That is such a filthy lie, told by this forum's most dishonest poster.

You've got a lot of nerve dumping that blatantly false garbage in here.

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2013/jun/20/evidence-room-cartoon-clay-bennett-times/#c234519

The rescinding of Glass-Stegall of 1933 and replacing it with Gramm-Leach-Blilely of 1999 is EXACTLY what led to the financial collapse. It set up the exact same scenarios that led to the Stock Market Crash of 1929.

August 13, 2014 at 9:19 p.m.

Ki, what's your point? Homeschooling is bad? Do you want a list of all the public school shooting carried out by public school students?

This area, the Chattanooga area, has phenomenal home school success. You're a dope.

Yeah, and you have to read about what damage you libs do in the UK papers.

Then move to another state ibshame. Tennessee is a great state. Jobs are coming here, and it's a scenic state. With your 'uncle tom" attitude toward successful black Americans who don't belong to your diseased party, you might want to move to a liberal hole like Chicago or D.C.

Inq I stand by what I say. Democrats want as many stoned as possible.

Ren, what are we supposed to demand that Williams be added to Mount Rushmore? He was a cocaine addict and an alcoholic. Look at all the excuses being made for him by his "friends" and colleagues. Being "forced" to do a sequel to Mrs. Doubtfire pushed him over the edge because he needed the job? Boo hoo. He had a million friends, millions of fans that loved his work, children that need him, he lived in beautiful place and lots of future work coming his way. He could print money. I would say that years of cocaine and alcohol *&^%$% him up pretty good. I'll bet he smoked plenty of pot too.

August 13, 2014 at 9:27 p.m.
alprova said...

Maximyth wrote: "Regular use of pot, especially for teens and young adults will make you one thing.....a stupid entitled lazy good for nothing trifling Democrat that disappears when the work whistle blows."

You are so full of sh!t. I know many people who smoke the stuff and each and every one of them get up each day and work for a living. I only know of one person who does not work but smokes pot all day long. One.

"I drug screen my employees and have fired many of them for pot use. Why....they did not perform to standard."

You don't have any employees. You're a legend in your own pathetic mind, Maximyth...

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2013/jun/20/evidence-room-cartoon-clay-bennett-times/#c234519

August 13, 2014 at 9:28 p.m.
alprova said...

Homeschooling only creates more anti-social people, who are destined to remain eternal virgins, because they do not know how to relate to other people.

August 13, 2014 at 9:31 p.m.
alprova said...

Z-man wrote: "Ren, what are we supposed to demand that Williams be added to Mount Rushmore? He was a cocaine addict and an alcoholic. Look at all the excuses being made for him by his "friends" and colleagues. Being "forced" to do a sequel to Mrs. Doubtfire pushed him over the edge because he needed the job? Boo hoo. He had a million friends, millions of fans that loved his work, children that need him, he lived in beautiful place and lots of future work coming his way. He could print money. I would say that years of cocaine and alcohol *&^%$% him up pretty good. I'll bet he smoked plenty of pot too."

You get the asswipe of the year award. The man is dead. No need to trample on his dead carcass before it is placed into the ground.

At least this time, the guy you're trashing is white.

Today, you're an equal opportunity jerkoff.

August 13, 2014 at 9:34 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

So Maxi answers my question (actually posed to z-buster), "Notice old Maxi never argued with me about how justified I am moving into his house while he was gone to work, since I live in the same state. Guess he agrees you can just move into someone's property and kick them out just for kicks."

Max sez, "And Inquiring...moving into my house? Oh we'll may I introduce you to Mr. Winchester! Lol!"

so I never thought I'd here a Israeli apologist admit it, Maxi agrees the Palestinians who have lived in their houses and owned their land for generations have a right to take arms against those who take it from them by force, or he has two sets of rules, one for him and one for them.

August 13, 2014 at 9:35 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

Maxi you for one would be really surprised at which very successful local business people smoke pot.

What is amazing about the Robin Williams affair is you can go to the media, pick at random, and there is a tremendous positive outpouring of compassion for the man, RW, and his family, but we have to go to the mire and muck of electronic chat rooms to find people who are willing to stoop low enough to spout mean-spirited trash. As Nelson Mandela said about Hollywood (who was instrumental in getting him released) and the stereotyped, racist African films they made and he watched in prison, You diminish us all as humans by your behavior."

August 13, 2014 at 9:44 p.m.
Maximus said...

Alprova you are one to talk about healthcare and drug abuse issues especially since you ate yourself into a prosthetic leg and wheelchair. And Inquiring I have no idea what you are talking about. You entering an upscale neighborhood for the first time in your welfare supported life and the Hamas terrorists that want to kill all Jews. What? You smoke way way too much pot man. Go pour yourself a White Russian dude. The dude abides and will always be a poor dead beat. The Big Lebowski was a funny movie about loser Democrats similar to the Cheech and Chong Up In Democrat Loser Smoke classic! Knock, knock...it's Dave man....dude Dave's not here......zzzzzzzz.

Alpos friends that smoke pot and go to work every day must be guvment employees. I hope none of them work at the nuke plant.

August 13, 2014 at 9:52 p.m.
Maximus said...

Uhhhh Alprova your self portrait on your post explains a lot. See what over use of your EBT card will do to your health. What are you about 4 bills? Another reason why we should go back to guvment commodities...hook cheese, crackers, and peanut butter instead of EBT Cards that allow moochers to go under cover and eat away without having to pull out their stamp book which would be a strain on their self esteem. Sad.

August 13, 2014 at 10:09 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

At least Maxi now understands the reaction of a Palestinian to an Israeli taking his home and land by force. All he can do is sputter dumbstruck about legs, upscale neighborhoods, Big Lebowski, Democrats, nuke (sic) plants and toss out "you're one too's"....Life is imitating art.

August 13, 2014 at 10:11 p.m.
alprova said...

Maximyth wrote: "Alprova you are one to talk about healthcare and drug abuse issues especially since you ate yourself into a prosthetic leg and wheelchair."

More lies from the master of deception. The loss of my leg had nothing at all to do with diabetes. I've stated that many times. You seem to be the only one who can't read English.

"Alpos friends that smoke pot and go to work every day must be guvment employees. I hope none of them work at the nuke plant."

You're just another twit who has absolutely no idea what pot is about and you haven't tried it. You're deferring to those drug films shown in Grammar Schools, meant to scare the pants off of 8 year olds.

God put pot here on Earth. It grows directly in the dirt. It does not need to be genetically altered. It has some very credible medicinal purposes.

Perhaps one day, you ignorant twits will have a need for pot, to control nausea when one of you is fighting cancer. Or you might wind up with Glaucoma.

I read a report the other day that it is used by some as a natural aphrodisiac, totally negating the need for Viagra or other chemicals to assist those needing a good boner.

Pot is a great naturally growing plant. If the world smoked pot, there would be far fewer wars. I think we ought to send pot drops all over the Middle East, along with bags and bags of potato chips, Cokes and Pepsi's.

August 13, 2014 at 10:55 p.m.
alprova said...

Maximyth wrote: "Uhhhh Alprova your self portrait on your post explains a lot. See what over use of your EBT card will do to your health."

Sir, I do not receive food assistance. I am disabled and I do draw Social Security Disability, which I deserve without question, and I receive Medicare benefits parts A,B, & D. Everything else I pay for just fine.

"What are you about 4 bills?"

Try 240, numb nuts.

Don't be mad because I have proven you to be a most unreliable person when posting in this forum.

Your reputation is such that any word you post cannot be trusted to be truthful or factual. Grains of salt are thrown over your back every time you pop online to write your latest fairy tales.

August 13, 2014 at 11:02 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpo on a real rant tonite....he's steamed because people are catching on to the fact that he's a habitual liar and on the govt. dole. Food Stamps and gubmint cheese, eh alpo? And has no life outside this little forum...16 hrs per day, every day. Loser.

August 13, 2014 at 11:41 p.m.
fairmon said...

Legal or not employers can and will continue screening for drug and alcohol use and can terminate employment for a positive test. Many employers are by law required to have programs that avoid having people exposed to the risk of working under the influence of drugs or alcohol and exposing others to the risk of working with those impaired by the use of legal or illegal substances.

How safe does it make you feel to have the driver of that 18 wheeler behind of passing you smoking a joint or having a drink to relax? Legalizing for strictly controlled medicinal purposes may be a good thing. Legalizing for recreational use should include strict regulation and enforcement. The tax money should be sufficient to assure strict R&E and used for that purpose.

There are very few people that don't have friends or family that have been killed or crippled by someone driving in an impaired state. The penalty for doing so is not severe enough and should be such that the risk of being caught would be a strong deterrent.

A question no one can give a good answer to is why every medical practitioner with a scripts pad can prescribe any medication on the market?

August 14, 2014 at 4:49 a.m.
fairmon said...

alprova said...It's been many years since I've smoked some dope, but the minute it becomes legal here, I'm gonna buy me a bag full.

That would be a good expenditure of your disability income and a good argument against legalization for reasons other than strictly regulated medicinal purposes.

Your expert opinion in every field has to impress you. Your knowledge of the drug and the long term affects are a better and more popular source than the medical and research community. You should run for congress.

August 14, 2014 at 5:07 a.m.
alprova said...

Jackie wrote: "Alpo on a real rant tonite....he's steamed because people are catching on to the fact that he's a habitual liar and on the govt. dole."

I am no more on the dole than you are, hypocrite. And again, you have yet to prove me having lied about a damn thing.

"Food Stamps and gubmint cheese, eh alpo?"

Sorry, but because I draw a substantial amount every month, I find that I do not need any further assistance and to the best of my knowledge, the Government cheese program went away years ago.

"And has no life outside this little forum...16 hrs per day, every day. Loser."

Again, the hypocrite. Nobody outside of you and Z-man spend more time in this forum. You haven't missed a day in years. You live alone, you are homebound due to that bracelet you wear around your ankle, and you spend 16 hours a day online between this forum and Twitter. Every single day.

Me? I've got quite a life, lots of friends and family, and I leave my home every day to take part in activities that gives me a purpose to my life.

I took my first 30 steps yesterday on my prosthetic leg. I get to bring it home this coming Monday. In a month or so, wheelchairs will be in my rearview mirror.

Loser? Not on YOUR life will that ever be true. Nothing gets me down or keeps me down for long. I am quite the winner.

August 14, 2014 at 5:20 a.m.
alprova said...

Fairmon wrote: "How safe does it make you feel to have the driver of that 18 wheeler behind of passing you smoking a joint or having a drink to relax?"

There is a time and a place for legal use of mind altering substances, and no one is endorsing their use while working at any job or while operating a motorized vehicle.

"Legalizing for strictly controlled medicinal purposes may be a good thing. Legalizing for recreational use should include strict regulation and enforcement. The tax money should be sufficient to assure strict R&E and used for that purpose."

Of course, all that should be done.

"There are very few people that don't have friends or family that have been killed or crippled by someone driving in an impaired state. The penalty for doing so is not severe enough and should be such that the risk of being caught would be a strong deterrent."

But here's the thing. I know of no credible case of a stoned driver killing anyone. I do not advocate that pot should be allowed behind the wheel of any vehicle, but there is very little evidence that pot has ever caused a fatal accident.

In the states where it has been legalized, the dire predictions by those opposed to pot, have not come to pass at all.

"A question no one can give a good answer to is why every medical practitioner with a scripts pad can prescribe any medication on the market?"

That is no longer the case. Narcotics and pain killers are tightly regulated these days and tracked to every Physician who writes a prescription for them. Many are not willing to write prescriptions for thos4 class of drugs, but only to patients familiar to them, or in emergency situations, with only an emergency supply of pills.

August 14, 2014 at 5:30 a.m.
alprova said...

Fairmon wrote: "That would be a good expenditure of your disability income and a good argument against legalization for reasons other than strictly regulated medicinal purposes."

Sir, you really need to quit worrying so much about my financial situation. Disability income is not dependent on my being insolvent or without other resources. There are no asset limitations for one who receives non-SSDI related Disability income.

"Your expert opinion in every field has to impress you."

I'm not impressed with myself. Are you impressed with me?

"Your knowledge of the drug and the long term affects are a better and more popular source than the medical and research community. You should run for congress."

Well as is always the case, I'm wide open to being proven incorrect. I merely challenged statements by those who claimed to have witnessed firsthand, these "sad effects" of long time pot use, and I'm still waiting for an answer to that.

You can't blame me for calling one's bluff. I am quite adept at recognizing bullsh1t when it is posted and I'm going to call one down for posting it every single time I catch it.

If you have something credible to post that refutes me, by all means, cough it up.

I stand on the statement that pot is largely harmless and used in moderation, has no negative consequences of any kind, whether used short or long term.

August 14, 2014 at 5:44 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpo the ranter says "Well as is always the case, I'm wide open to being proven incorrect. I merely challenged statements by those who claimed to have witnessed firsthand, these "sad effects" of long time pot use, and I'm still waiting for an answer to that. You can't blame me for calling one's bluff. I am quite adept at recognizing bullsh1t when it is posted and I'm going to call one down for posting it every single time I catch it." What "sad effects" are you wanting an answer to, Lie Boy. I told you the sad effects. Have your diseases taken your memory too? Whose bluff did you call?

August 14, 2014 at 7:30 a.m.
inquiringmind said...

fairmon, once it is legal only in states where we have "right to work" laws (sic) can you be fired on the spot for absolutely no reason.

The question with THC, unlike alcohol, is it is fat soluble and lingers in the body long after it is in too low a concentration to effect you; you will have to prove on some rational basis a person is impaired.

As for TJD, there is no medical study accepted by critical peer review that established long time THC use by adults has negative consequences, except of course the smoking part which carries similar potential as tabacco use.

Your comment about apocryphal "first hand observation" reminds me of the old lady who read an article in the paper of someone killed in an auto accident. The fellow was wearing a seat belt. Therefore, the old lady concluded, she was not going to wear a seat belt, she might get killed if she had an accident.

Observations of the consequence of addictive behavior does not necessarily confirm the effect of the abused substance, and in the case of THC there is no evidence.

Of course with some drugs such as alcohol the negative health effects are patently obvious and long established as a significant personal and public health cost. Shall we list some of them?: Liver failure, legal costs of public drunkenness, vehicular homicide, homelessness, petty crimes, heart damage, broken families, hypertension and stroke, generational history of alcohol abuse. But do we ban alcohol sales? The free market pressure of the alcoholic beverage industry so studiously defended by the Reds is too powerful for that. The tobacco companies have already trademarked the names of their doobies. ... so rant on.

August 14, 2014 at 7:43 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

IQ, I can only offer up what I've seen. It's immaterial to me whether you believe it or not. I'm thinking that your mind is made up and will not change regardless of the potential evidence. And (not sure if you were addressing me), I've made no posts concerning addiction re weed.

August 14, 2014 at 7:53 a.m.
conservative said...

It seems inquiringmind now considers himself knowledgeable about pot which could explain why he often writes incoherent gibberish.

There is no doubt that there are consequences for long term use of pot. I have known some of these and their behavior is not normal.

If a train worker at CSX railroad test positive for drugs, they are dismissed, period.

August 14, 2014 at 7:55 a.m.
inquiringmind said...

TJD it must have been maxi who made the claim, too much flack flying around here. The bottom line is there is minimal negative consequence to adult THC use and a lot of money to be made by the government via taxes. Arguments against it are rooted in mythological infoids that have floated around for so long they are accepted as truth. Ideally, everyone would be well balanced and there would be no urge for mind-altering states to avoid dealing with the mess we live in. But we live in a free country and each one has a right to pursue reasonable ways of recreation and avoidance of responsibility.

August 14, 2014 at 8:03 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

<<< Alprova. He can't help himself.

August 14, 2014 at 8:07 a.m.
alprova said...

Jackie wrote: "What "sad effects" are you wanting an answer to, Lie Boy."

The ones that YOU claimed to have seen first hand.

"I told you the sad effects."

Really? When did you post those "sad effects?" You wouldn't be lying again, would you?

"Have your diseases taken your memory too? Whose bluff did you call?"

Link to your post that describes those "sad effects" of long term use of pot.

August 14, 2014 at 8:07 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Look no further than my 4:56 post yesterday, lie king. Are you really this dense? Is it the diseases?

August 14, 2014 at 8:16 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpo: Serious question. What deep underlying (pun intended) events happened to you early in life that fomented your compulsion to lie repeatedly?

August 14, 2014 at 8:18 a.m.
conservative said...

Now inquiringmind attempts to justify the "urge for mind-altering states" to avoid "responsibility."

I guess he thinks that avoiding one's "responsibility" doesn't affect others or society in general.

This is the "pot doesn't hurt anyone" lack of thinking by those who push and use it.

August 14, 2014 at 8:18 a.m.
alprova said...

Jackie, you're not very bright, but you are entertaining.

August 14, 2014 at 8:20 a.m.
conservative said...

You think the "urge for mind-altering states" didn't have anything to do with the suicide of Robin Williams?

August 14, 2014 at 8:26 a.m.
alprova said...

Jackie wrote: "Alpo: Serious question. What deep underlying (pun intended) events happened to you early in life that fomented your compulsion to lie repeatedly?"

When you start answering questions of the same nature, then I'll consider not laughing at yours.

You have a great deal of nerve calling anyone else a liar. Your lies have been exposed clearly in this forum.

You have never exposed me to have lied at all.

You lied and then you whined to the TFP staff because I reminded you daily of your lie. That's messed up.

Your attempt to align me with a man in North Carolina was an obvious lie of yours. And now you want to pretend to be innocent of lying?

You're demented, delusional, and totally pathetic.

August 14, 2014 at 8:29 a.m.
alprova said...

Connie wrote: "If a train worker at CSX railroad test positive for drugs, they are dismissed, period."

Again, for the uninformed, no one is advocating legalizing pot to be used while working or operating machinery or motorized vehicles.

Everything has a time and a place.

August 14, 2014 at 8:32 a.m.
alprova said...

Connie wrote: "You think the "urge for mind-altering states" didn't have anything to do with the suicide of Robin Williams?"

The toxicology report will be out in a few weeks.

I'll defer to it before arriving at a judgment.

Maybe you should too.

August 14, 2014 at 8:34 a.m.
fairmon said...

inquiringmind said...

fairmon, once it is legal only in states where we have "right to work" laws (sic) can you be fired on the spot for absolutely no reason.

A positive alcohol or drug test is a legitimate cause for termination in all states and is not termination for no reason. Most employers have a post offer screening with positive results voiding the offer. Some do terminate for positive results while others have suspension for first time offenders and for long term employees some offer rehabilitation assistance. Some have included tobacco use as a screening tool and will not hire those testing positive which is certainly understandable and some few include tobacco use in their random testing programs. The DOT requires random testing of those driving or operating certain equipment with the results recorded and provided to them periodically.

The reasons for testing are valid whether pot is legal or not and will not likely alter an employers policy.

The results of long term use have not been appropriately tested and are not likely to be tested, documented and publicized until legal. Actually there has been no such legitimate testing been done on the long term affects of cocaine, meth and other drugs that destroy lives, they are obvious without testing. Smoking whether pot or standard tobacco will have similar health damaging results.

August 14, 2014 at 8:37 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

alpo lies: "You lied and then you whined to the TFP staff because I reminded you daily of your lie. That's messed up." you have proof of that, alpy?

August 14, 2014 at 8:38 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

^^waiting

August 14, 2014 at 8:45 a.m.
conservative said...

alprova said...

Connie wrote: "If a train worker at CSX railroad test positive for drugs, they are dismissed, period."

Again, for the uninformed, no one is advocating legalizing pot to be used while working or operating machinery or motorized vehicles.

Everything has a time and a place.

August 14, 2014 at 8:32 a.m.

=============================

Again for the uninformed, they are dismissed when it is found in their system not if they are caught using drugs while working.

August 14, 2014 at 8:46 a.m.
conservative said...

alprova said...

Connie wrote: "You think the "urge for mind-altering states" didn't have anything to do with the suicide of Robin Williams?"

The toxicology report will be out in a few weeks.

I'll defer to it before arriving at a judgment.

Maybe you should too.

August 14, 2014 at 8:34 a.m.

=====================

Again for the uninformed, the report will confirm public knowledge and the man's admission of drug use.

August 14, 2014 at 8:55 a.m.
alprova said...

Jackie, there isn't anyone who frequents this forum who is not aware of the lie you tried so desperately to wiggle out of. Now you're really being stupid by pretending it never happened.

You are without a doubt, totally pathetic.

August 14, 2014 at 8:55 a.m.
fairmon said...

alprova said...I stand on the statement that pot is largely harmless and used in moderation, has no negative consequences of any kind, whether used short or long term.

I have no problem with pot being legal, regulated and heavily taxed. In fact that may be appropriate for all currently illegal drugs. However, moderation is the working word and open to interpretation. Some alcoholics that drink often and daily claim they are "moderate" drinkers which is likely to be the case for those using or hooked on pot. Smoking to any extent has health risk which are greater for some than others.

Anyone driving should drive defensively and assume 10% or more of those driving are under the influence of some legal or illegal substance and impaired to some degree or too damned old to be driving.

August 14, 2014 at 8:56 a.m.
alprova said...

Connie wrote: "Again for the uninformed, the report will confirm public knowledge and the man's admission of drug use."

You're still judging. If the report comes back clean, will you apologize to the world for your stupidity?

The man is dead. If you didn't like him, there is no need to stomp on him before he is laid to rest.

You could have not typed a damn thing, rather than to expose your totally thoughtless demeanor that bubbles to the surface every time you post.

August 14, 2014 at 8:59 a.m.
alprova said...

Fairmon wrote: "However, moderation is the working word and open to interpretation. Some alcoholics that drink often and daily claim they are "moderate" drinkers which is likely to be the case for those using or hooked on pot. Smoking to any extent has health risk which are greater for some than others."

I know heart doctors who would disagree with that statement. Pot does not contain the dangerous chemicals that cigarettes have in them, thus it is far safer to smoke than processed tobacco.

"Anyone driving should drive defensively and assume 10% or more of those driving are under the influence of some legal or illegal substance and impaired to some degree or too damned old to be driving."

There's nothing wrong with driving defensively, but it seems a bit paranoid to be worrying about impaired drivers all the time.

August 14, 2014 at 9:04 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

So Alpy,, I guess your statement about me "whining" to TFP is yet another lie as you will offer no proof of that claim. As usual.

August 14, 2014 at 9:14 a.m.
conservative said...

alprova said...

Connie wrote: "Again for the uninformed, the report will confirm public knowledge and the man's admission of drug use."

You're still judging. If the report comes back clean, will you apologize to the world for your stupidity?

========================

You mean for believing the news reports and his admission of frequent drug use?

I won't feel stupid if all those involved in reporting his drug use were lying.

Will you apologize for being stupid in not believing him or the mess media?

August 14, 2014 at 9:17 a.m.
alprova said...

Jackie wrote: "So Alpy,, I guess your statement about me "whining" to TFP is yet another lie as you will offer no proof of that claim. As usual."

Jackie, I absolutely can prove it because it was related to me in an e-mail sent to me that you had offered "numerous" complaints related to my reminder posts.

You can dole out crap all day long, but you squeal like a little schoolgirl the minute someone pokes you back.

I will not be posting the contents of that e-mail because it was sent to me in confidence.

You know what you did. It's easy to see that you're denying it as well. You're pathetic.

August 14, 2014 at 9:29 a.m.
Maximus said...

Ok, the truth is revealed, Alprova is one of the multiple millions added to the disability rolls during the Obama regime. No wonder he has a 240 lb. man crush on Barry The Welfare Pimp! To say he deserves it may be right but I have known plenty of men on canes, in wheel chairs, even born with deformed legs who have not taken disability. Oh well, some of us are "makers" while others are "takers".

Getting back to losers on dope, pot specifically, I really do think that like with most drugs, especially pot which apparently will have widespread use by Democrats on disability, the FDA should do at minimum 10 years of large patient base, long term double blind placebo controlled clinical trials on the side effects and long term use of marijuana. Think about it, if tobacco, (a harmless NATURAL product) was just being introduced to the U.S. public for the first time and the FDA had insisted upon doing long term clinical trials first before approval, think of the savings in terms of lives and healthcare dollars. Blood pressure meds, depression drugs, you name it require at least ten years of lab studies, animal studies, and then on to human clinical trials before approval pot should require the same scrutiny after all, your kids are going to be smoking the nasty smelling stuff too no matter how they write the law. As for people, mostly Democrats, being overjoyed about being able to tax pot sales, the tax in Colorado and Washington State, two Democrat socialist utopia states by the way, has created a new criminal black market of street dealers selling the loser wacky tobaccy to kids and who ever else wants to avoid the tax and pay cheap prices. And WOW....don't we pay enough tax in TN, paying almost a dime on every dollar we spend in the state.

No pot legalization is definitely an anti-family plank of the extreme leftist Democrat party platform. So far only wacky blue states have legalized the nasty smelling stuff so let's let those states be the lab mice for how great legalization of more mediocrity with pot is, along with calling your Congressmen and Senators and insisting upon at least ten years of large scale, controlled, double blind placebo controlled studies by the FDA before legalization. Wow man....that is a grooooooovey idea!

August 14, 2014 at 9:29 a.m.
alprova said...

Connie wrote: "You mean for believing the news reports and his admission of frequent drug use?"

What possible difference will it make? He's dead.

"I won't feel stupid if all those involved in reporting his drug use were lying."

The way I understand it, he has had past problems with drugs and alcohol. I have no reason to believe that he was high or drunk when he took his life on Sunday.

"Will you apologize for being stupid in not believing him or the mess media?"

You're stupidity will never be mine. Quite honestly, it makes no matter to me what he took or drank before taking his life.

You seem to be preoccupied with it. That's YOUR stupidity.

August 14, 2014 at 9:34 a.m.
alprova said...

Maximyth wrote: "Ok, the truth is revealed, Alprova is one of the multiple millions added to the disability rolls during the Obama regime. No wonder he has a 240 lb. man crush on Barry The Welfare Pimp! To say he deserves it may be right but I have known plenty of men on canes, in wheel chairs, even born with deformed legs who have not taken disability. Oh well, some of us are "makers" while others are "takers"."

And if you had an ounce of comprehension, you would know that my disability has nothing to do with my missing leg. That came AFTER I was approved for disability.

I was approved for disability for my end-stage kidney disease and four other well documented medical issues.

The rest of your post includes totally bogus information that you must have whipped off the top of your head. There isn't a fact anywhere in it.

Poor Maximyth...the hits just keep on comin'

August 14, 2014 at 9:38 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Fat Alpo, until you retract and admit fabricating the sexual predator fable, you will continue to hear from me. Frequently. Admit you lied and made it up, I'll go away. Otherwise, all bets are off.

August 14, 2014 at 9:42 a.m.
conservative said...

It is quite obvious that YOU are preoccupied about stupidity.

You brought the subject up.

I believed him and I believed the vast reports of his drug use.

You can call me stupid for believing the reports and I can call you stupid for not believing the reports.

Why don't we leave it there?

August 14, 2014 at 9:42 a.m.
inquiringmind said...

Maxi, connie all you guys and gals remind me of the National Woman's Christian Temperance Union, and Gen. Curtis Lemay, same kind of histronics and deceptive and unfounded claims. Yo are afraid of it because someone convinced you its a killer drug. THC can be detected to extremely low levels for some long time after use, and its presence does not imply impairment. If you want some proof, go eat some poppy seed rolls before your next random drug test at work and explain to your boss why you aren't impaired on opium.

August 14, 2014 at 9:42 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Max eats your lunch daily, Lie Boy.

August 14, 2014 at 9:43 a.m.
conservative said...

inquiringmind

Sounds like you coached some at CSX.

It didn't work for them either.

August 14, 2014 at 9:48 a.m.
alprova said...

Jackie wrote: "Fat Alpo, until you retract and admit fabricating the sexual predator fable, you will continue to hear from me."

But that's just the point. I didn't make it up. You did.

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270586

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270592

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270593

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270595

"Admit you lied and made it up, I'll go away. Otherwise, let all bets are off."

We tried that once. Remember? You lasted two days. You're getting nothing from me. It was YOUR lie. You need to deal with it.

August 14, 2014 at 9:52 a.m.
alprova said...

Connie wrote: "Why don't we leave it there?"

Because you are STUPIDLY assuming he took or drank something before he took his life.

I've seen nothing to indicate that in the press.

Why don't YOU wait to see what the toxicology report shows?

You're always full of ASSumptions, aren't you?

August 14, 2014 at 9:55 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

No, you didn't admit you fabricated the story. Do that or be hounded to hell.

August 14, 2014 at 9:56 a.m.
Maximus said...

So Al like most liberals losing a debate you call me a liar. Ok, sooooo the FDA does NOT require long term double blind placebo controlled studies before a new drug is approved for public use? I wish that we're the case but in the U.S. the FDA can take decades to study and review a new drug and that my sad sack disabled Alprova is a FACT!

Most kidney failure in the U.S. Is caused by undiagnosed diabetes usually brought on by obesity, a SELF imposed disease. That is a FACT too.

August 14, 2014 at 9:56 a.m.
alprova said...

Jackie wrote: "Max eats your lunch daily, Lie Boy."

Of course, I would expect nothing less from you.

You and Maximyth share your genuine Crayola Crayons with each other.

It's apparent that you were both educated at the same institution of higher learning.

You both apparently rode that short bus back and forth.

August 14, 2014 at 9:59 a.m.
conservative said...

alprova said...

Connie wrote: "Why don't we leave it there?"

Because you are STUPIDLY assuming he took or drank something before he took his life.

I've seen nothing to indicate that in the press.

Why don't YOU wait to see what the toxicology report shows?

You're always full of ASSumptions, aren't you?

August 14, 2014 at 9:55 a.m.

===========================

And your not?

Years of drug use affects a person's mind and thus his actions.

I have seen it first hand.

You Liberals refusal to see it.

I call that STUPID.

August 14, 2014 at 10:04 a.m.
alprova said...

Maximyth wrote: "So Al like most liberals losing a debate you call me a liar."

Nope. I call you a liar because you have a well established history of lying in this forum. You cannot be trusted with the truth.

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2013/jun/20/evidence-room-cartoon-clay-bennett-times/#c234519

"Most kidney failure in the U.S. Is caused by undiagnosed diabetes usually brought on by obesity, a SELF imposed disease. That is a FACT too."

It's good that you offer that is the case MOST of the time. In my case it was not. I was given massive doses of a drug that systematically killed my kidneys, as it was not being monitored as it should have been.

Now you can continue trying to be cute or you can start being truthful in this forum, because it's very hard to distinguish when you are attempting to be serious or simply outrageous.

August 14, 2014 at 10:06 a.m.
Maximus said...

Ok Al....you were GIVEN massive doses of drugs that killed your kidneys. YOU were a victim and your behavior had nothing to do with trashing your health.

Typical powerless loser victim of circumstance shirking any accountability or responsibility for your actions. Like our victim POTUS Obama....it is always someone else's fault.

So very predictable, liberals are a sad lot. Now, like our prez I'm off to play golf.

August 14, 2014 at 10:22 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpo lies again. In my case it was not. "I was given massive doses of a drug that systematically killed my kidneys, as it was not being monitored as it should have been." and why were you given the drug in the first place, alpo? Answer: Because you had kidney disease brought on by your personal habits. That's why. Same difference. Your version allows you to dodge the truth and perhaps sue an MD. Nice try, fabricator.

August 14, 2014 at 10:51 a.m.
inquiringmind said...

As usual with connie, in the absence of intelligent commentary, the old girl slides towards the gutter with the pigs and the refuse of the chamber pot.

August 14, 2014 at 10:51 a.m.
conservative said...

You poor, poor, baby!

August 14, 2014 at 10:54 a.m.
alprova said...

I'm not about to defend myself against two crayon holding boys who don't have the sense God gave a pissant.

I do not have to justify a damn thing to either one of you. I have complete medical records that documents everything.

If either one of you idiots has the desire to view those records, please make an appointment and bring a $50.00 viewing fee and I'll be happy to satisfy your curiosity.

August 14, 2014 at 10:58 a.m.

Max, Jack, good points. The victim mentality is at the core of the liberal mind, along with entitlement, greed and bigotry.

August 14, 2014 at 10:59 a.m.
alprova said...

I really don't care what you ignorant morons think. Those of you with jobs, just keep on working so my checks keep on coming, and the world will keep on turning.

The sad fact is that just about every one of you are drawing Social Security checks yourselves, so the hpocrisy runs very deep in this forum, doesn't it?

August 14, 2014 at 11:04 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

alpo says "if either one of you idiots has the desire to view those records, please make an appointment and bring a $50.00 viewing fee and I'll be happy to satisfy your curiosity." we've already paid once, Alpy.

August 14, 2014 at 11:04 a.m.
alprova said...

You haven't paid ME a damn penny, dickhead.

It will be a decade or more before I draw out what I paid in.

You nor anyone else has paid a penny I am owed.

I know you don't have a job, so where in the hell do you even get off claiming you've paid a damn thing for me.

You are such a pitiful, pathetic liar.

August 14, 2014 at 11:05 a.m.
alprova said...

Ah...I see that the third stooge has decided to pop in for the day.

How nice...

August 14, 2014 at 11:25 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

"Dickhead"? I live in your head rent free.

August 14, 2014 at 11:27 a.m.
alprova said...

Jackie, you're a legend in your own mind...not mine.

August 14, 2014 at 11:43 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Say what you will, Anthony. You've been exposed as a chronic liar.

August 14, 2014 at 11:58 a.m.
alprova said...

Blah...blah...blah...blah...blah.

You keep writing the same crap but offer not an ounce of proof.

You're the one who likes to expose yourself, remember?

August 14, 2014 at 12:18 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpo: 500 fabricated posts about an alleged sexual predator? Sounds like the work of a liar to me.

August 14, 2014 at 12:27 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Does that kind of deception not embarrass you, Anthony?

August 14, 2014 at 12:45 p.m.
alprova said...

Jackiw wrote: "Does that kind of deception not embarrass you, Anthony?"

It's YOUR deception. Not mine.

August 14, 2014 at 1:26 p.m.
fairmon said...

Smoking to any extent has health risk which are greater for some than others."

ALPROVA SAID...I know heart doctors who would disagree with that statement. Pot does not contain the dangerous chemicals that cigarettes have in them, thus it is far safer to smoke than processed tobacco.

Therefore it will kill you slower? That is good to know and I am sure those doctors have conducted their own pot analysis and long term studies? I repeat, make drugs legal along with gambling and prostitution but regulate and tax the heck out of them to pay for strict regulation and rehabilitation. It is time to quit trying to protect people against their ignorance. Allowing only highly trained qualified and registered medical doctors to prescribe per developed guidelines with an examination would enable identifying nut cases and addressing the potential for harm to others. I would not support welfare for those using drugs. The number detected has not been abnormally high but the number applying has dropped significantly in states implementing testing welfare recipients.

Are you sure if GA. tested for alcohol and drugs you would still want a bag of the apathy causing good stuff?

August 14, 2014 at 2:18 p.m.

Hilarious photo of Hillary on Drudge at the top. Scary prospect.

August 14, 2014 at 2:19 p.m.

Apathy, good word fairmon. That's what it does. I don't think we need more of that in this country. Making it legal, with the intent of taxing the crap out of it in order to make up for all the ill it causes, makes no sense to me. It's still helping to create a detached and mind numbed society. It's playing right into the hands of the left. They want the electorate to not be inquisitive and vigilant.

August 14, 2014 at 2:28 p.m.
alprova said...

Fairmon wrote: "Therefore it will kill you slower?"

Sir, I know of no one who has died from using Marijuana.

"That is good to know and I am sure those doctors have conducted their own pot analysis and long term studies?"

It's not out of the question, is it?

"Are you sure if GA. tested for alcohol and drugs you would still want a bag of the apathy causing good stuff?"

I'm a law abiding citizen. When it becomes legal, I'm going to legally buy some and get high.

August 14, 2014 at 2:29 p.m.

How does it benefit society to promote apathy and detachment?

Anyone that's had experience with those who have used pot for a long time can back me up on that. My sister and her husband are living proof of that.

August 14, 2014 at 2:32 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Zab, the lefty losers Ike Lyin Alpo are in denial.

August 14, 2014 at 3:09 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Anthony posts 500 lies about me, then says it's my deception. Talk about effed up.

August 14, 2014 at 3:11 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

Fairmon, you can't equally compare the effects of smoking cigarettes to smoking pot. A person that is a habitual cig. smoker, will smoke several cigarettes (a pack or two, even) a day. A person that smokes pot daily will not smoke that frequently. It would be like saying the guy that eats a Wendy's Triple W/ Cheese a few times a year is going to suffer the same fate as the guy that eats a Triple W/ Cheese everyday. It's mere speculation to say that pot has any adverse effects.

August 14, 2014 at 3:13 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

"Max, Jack, good points"

(Up until Fister posted this) Said no one, ever.

August 14, 2014 at 3:15 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

Jack, to say you haven't lied on this forum, is well, a lie.

August 14, 2014 at 3:16 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Name one gassy

August 14, 2014 at 3:21 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

Saying that Al was the guy from the sex-offender link you posted.

August 14, 2014 at 3:40 p.m.
alprova said...

He knows of a dozen lies he's told, but he attempts to run away from them every day.

I never once named him a thing until he lied when he confessed to being the wrong man. He lied, and he wants ME to renounce HIS lies.

Only he could come up with that.

August 14, 2014 at 3:49 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

He wasn't?? The name was similar! Isn't that good enough?

August 14, 2014 at 3:50 p.m.

Guass, thats right, good points by Jack and Max.

August 14, 2014 at 3:58 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

Just read a report that Robin's wife says he was sober and suffering from the early effects of Parkinson's.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-robin-williams-wife-parkinsons-20140814-story.html

Fister, Maxipad is a chronic liar and a douche bag. If you can't tell by now that he simply comes by here to troll, there's no helping you.

August 14, 2014 at 4:02 p.m.

"a person that smokes pot daily will not smoke that frequently"

LOL You libs are desperate to make pot a staple of everyone's daily life.

That description doesn't fit many of the pot smokers I've known over the years.

Pajama boy potheads LOL pathetic

August 14, 2014 at 4:05 p.m.
alprova said...

Z-man, I seriously doubt you've even seen a doobie. You're so removed from reality, that I'll bet you still wear white jockey shorts.

August 14, 2014 at 4:10 p.m.

Look at all the excuses made for Williams' suicide. Parkinsons, money issues, not happy with his career, unhappy because he had to do sequels, failed marriages, death of John Belushi?

The guy had a beautiful daughter, and many people who loved,cared and respected him. Not in all cases, but I think Williams' suicide was a selfish and violent act.

He was a drug addict, an alcoholic, addicted to fame and a narcissist, bad combination of stuff. Pot, cocaine/other drugs and alcohol brought this guy down.

Everyone on here knows of someone, or knows someone, who is suffering, had piles of things go wrong and is hopeless, yet they don't take their lives.

August 14, 2014 at 4:14 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpo now talking about men's under-drawers. Continuing his downward spiral.

August 14, 2014 at 4:18 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

What do you mean "desperate to make pot a staple of everyone's daily life"? Alcohol is legal, cigarettes are legal, they have almost no place in my life, other than a few beers every now and then. I hate wine. Wine will soon be able to be sold in grocery stores. Does this mean I have to buy a bottle every time I go buy my son a box of Froot Loops?

Seriously Fister, do you think before you spew this BS or does it just ooze out of you uncontrollably?

August 14, 2014 at 4:21 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

"Pot, cocaine/other drugs and alcohol brought this guy down."

That BS from you just oozes.

August 14, 2014 at 4:23 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

Are you going to admit that you have lied, Jack?

August 14, 2014 at 4:23 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

When Alpo admits he posted about 500 lies about me, I'll consider it. Why is it ok for him to be totally wrong about my name, but you bust my chops for fingering him? BTW, he knew I wasn't the guy, but continued on for months. That's cool with you, is it?

August 14, 2014 at 4:38 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

I'm confused. So because "Al lied about you 500 times" means your lie wasn't really a lie?

I'm not really concerned about it.

I would expect the "Christian" ConMan to take back his comment saying that Robin Williams was under the influence when he took his life.

August 14, 2014 at 4:50 p.m.
alprova said...

Jackie the little whiner wrote: "When Alpo admits he posted about 500 lies about me, I'll consider it."

I have never lied about you. You CONFESSED.

"Why is it ok for him to be totally wrong about my name, but you bust my chops for fingering him? BTW, he knew I wasn't the guy, but continued on for months."

You CONFESSED. The name matched. You never recanted that CONFESSION

You STILL have not recanted it.

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270586

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270592

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270593

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270595

Quit blaming me for your lack of attention in straightening out your own personal lies.

August 14, 2014 at 4:50 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

No, the name did not match and you know it, you pathetic POS. Gassy, you're real objective, jerk.

August 14, 2014 at 4:57 p.m.
alprova said...

How the hell can you say I know what your name is?

You've never posted your middle name or initial.

It matched when you CONFESSED to being Jack Dana Dennis.

As far as I'm concerned, you're STILL Jack Dana Dennis, because you have refused to correct me or post your correct name.

August 14, 2014 at 5:01 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Like I'm gonna post my real name. Nice try, turd. Besides, you apparently didn't need it. You're a vile, contemptible little man.

August 14, 2014 at 5:09 p.m.
alprova said...

Be that as it may, you're still a confessed, convicted....

August 14, 2014 at 5:19 p.m.
alprova said...

Jackie wrote: "Like I'm gonna post my real name."

Lie number what? Your claim a minute ago was that I knew your name.

Now you admit that you have not posted your true name.

I'm supposed to know your real name...how?

You're so full of lies, Jackie.

August 14, 2014 at 5:22 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Huh?

August 14, 2014 at 5:26 p.m.
conservative said...

The Liberal networks have just now used the words "excessive police force" several times covering the riots in St. Louis.

Translation: Let the rioters loot and burn the city.

NBC spoke of police with semi automatic rifles.

More inflammatory words. All rifles used by police are semi automatic rifles.

Many Liberals just assume the worse when they hear those words.

NBC also used the words "precision guided." So what?

That just means the intended target will more likely be hit rather than hitting an innocent bystander.

Darkness coming soon, forget "peaceful" demonstrations.

August 14, 2014 at 6:48 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

Where's your retraction of your accusation that Robin Williams was under the influence of drugs and alcohol when he took his life? You coward, how convenient of you to change the subject. You're a P.O.S.

August 14, 2014 at 7:01 p.m.
fairmon said...

Fairmon wrote: "Therefore it will kill you slower?"

alprova said...

Sir, I know of no one who has died from using Marijuana.

Therefore, death has not been the result of Marijuana since you know no one that died or caused the death of someone else due to the use of Marijuana? If you insist on that being a fact I won't waste my time posting published events contrary to your wisdom.

I know you want it to be legal and I don't care with the previously posted caveats and as long as anyone using keeps their sloppy a$$ away from me and doesn't affect me. However, it is ludicrous to think sucking smoke of any source into your lungs and holding it in a few seconds doesn't have the potential to do health harm. The possible impact on the brain over time is still not real clear but the immediate impact is obvious even if there is no immediate health issue. It is like being around a drunk that thinks he is suddenly very intelligent, a good conversationalist, a great dance, very funny or in some cases very macho while others are like a zombie in slow motion. I can only imagine your post should you get a nickel bag before logging on.

The responsiveness of a female smoking a good quality joint is a whole different issue and a therapy I highly recommend for those that have any difficulty, only if it becomes legal of course.

August 14, 2014 at 7:01 p.m.
conservative said...

GaussianInteger said...

Where's your retraction of your accusation that Robin Williams was under the influence of drugs and alcohol when he took his life? You coward, how convenient of you to change the subject. You're a P.O.S.

August 14, 2014 at 7:01 p.m.

===========================

Did you mean that for me?

If so, why do you think that I should retract anything I wrote?

August 14, 2014 at 7:08 p.m.

Conservative, yeah, the race industry have swarmed that city and are crying like babies. How does rioting, looting, beating people in your own area, advance the cause of civil rights. Stupid people being led by stupid people, just looking for any reason to blame something on "the man".

August 14, 2014 at 7:12 p.m.

Race industry vultures, like Sharpton, are the Democratic Party's idea of what a successful black American should be.

August 14, 2014 at 7:14 p.m.
conservative said...

zab, I see it much worse than you.

The rioters want free stuff. They will plunder every store that is unguarded.

I read a report where some gun shop owners immediately showed that they were willing to defend their business from an approaching gang who quickly got the message and went looking for easier pickings.

The gang thought they were going to plunder a shop with high value guns. That was pretty smart of the gang but the gun shop owners were smarter and acted quickly.

August 14, 2014 at 7:25 p.m.

Oh, it's bad, but this happens every so often and Sharpton and others like him are down there asap. I read that a grandmother walking with a couple of her grandchildren was gunned down by drive by shooting a couple of days before that. Where were the protests for that?

Look like Sharpton if fishing for another Trayvon thing.

August 14, 2014 at 7:37 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

Hey ConMan aka P.O.S. You posted:

"You think the "urge for mind-altering states" didn't have anything to do with the suicide of Robin Williams?"

this:

"Again for the uninformed, the report will confirm public knowledge and the man's admission of drug use."

and this:

"I believed him and I believed the vast reports of his drug use."

You were dead f@cking wrong and you know it. That's why you brought up the incident in Missouri after I posted that he was suffering from Parkinsons. If you're a Christian, then so is Marilyn Manson.

Police prey on African Americans. African Americans have a much higher chance of being stopped by police as opposed to Caucasians. Of course, you and ConMan are white racists. You two celebrate every time an innocent black is gunned down.

August 14, 2014 at 8:42 p.m.
conservative said...

GaussianInteger

You have some serious emotional problems.

I don't retract anything I wrote.

You wrote just a while ago:

GaussianInteger said...

Where's your retraction of your accusation that Robin Williams was under the influence of drugs and alcohol when he took his life? You coward, how convenient of you to change the subject. You're a P.O.S.

August 14, 2014 at 7:01 p.m.

============================

Your lie is obvious.

Now, if you keep it up I will keep it up and post your lie.

Try me.

August 14, 2014 at 8:58 p.m.

LOL Guauss your last post is hilarious.

whaa..whaa..whaa..RACISM.

No, you libs are the racists. You're a bunch of white guilt ridden pajama pricks always on the wrong side of all issues.

Oh, you're just so SENNNNNNNSTIVE to the needs of the black community. You're ignorant.

Whats does destroying your own community, and the businesses in your community have to do with anything. Absolute stupidity on parade cultivated by decades of Democrat Party influence. You libs are the racists. You call Clarence Thomas, Ben Carson, Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, and Condi Rice, "uncle toms" and you pump up dicks like Al Sharpton. You truly are mentally ill.

I thought BO was going to put an end to all the ills of the black community? Oh, yeah, how can that be when the Democrat Party is responsible for many of them. BO is too busy rubbing elbows with the "1%" on Maaatha's Vineyard or in Hollywood LOL

Loser Dems have no clue what's going on?

August 14, 2014 at 9:57 p.m.

"police prey on African Americans" LOL oh, those poor criminals.

First of all, they're not Africans, second of all just about 100% of everyone in prison belongs there, with a rare exception.

Liberalism is disease.

August 14, 2014 at 10:01 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

I don't give a sh!t what you post scumbag. Am I supposed to be frightened of something you might post? I have never once lied on this forum. You have lied multiple times today. You are too coward to admit. You are attempting to project your lying tendencies on other people. So post away. It only displays your dishonesty to everyone else on this forum. Of course, they all know anyways. It's only a surprise to you. But when you have a compulsive liar such as yourself, it's natural for you to start believing your lies are reality.

August 14, 2014 at 10:02 p.m.
ibshame said...

Z fister you need to keep your dumbass comments about what is happening in Ferguson to yourself. When a police officer who is suppose to protect takes out his gun and shoots someone who has their hands in the air screaming don't shoot and the SOB shoots them not once but several times that is MURDER!!!!! Whether a dumbass like you believes it or not this IS about RACE and abuse of power. Furthermore if Sowell, Williams, Thomas or any of the rest of those uncle toms were in Ferguson they would be sh!tting in their drawers.

August 14, 2014 at 10:02 p.m.

You libs are the dividers. You make money off of it. You're stupendous hypocrites and manipulators. You encourage bitching and whining and the entitlement mentality.

August 14, 2014 at 10:04 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

"First of all, they're not Africans"

I'm sorry. You call them something that starts with an "N".

August 14, 2014 at 10:04 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

"No, you libs are the racists. You're a bunch of white guilt ridden pajama pricks always on the wrong side of all issues.

Oh, you're just so SENNNNNNNSTIVE to the needs of the black community. You're ignorant."

At least I'm not a dirtbag like you, celebrating that a life was needlessly taken.

August 14, 2014 at 10:08 p.m.
ibshame said...

The POS who shot that kid needs to be charged with MURDER and the sooner they charge that POS with MURDER the sooner peace can be returned to that community!!!!!

August 14, 2014 at 10:10 p.m.

No, Guass, you libs call them that. I call them Americans. You're the dividers.

LOL oooo ibshame is mad...there you go again calling black Americans "uncle toms" racist..so you're saying that unless they riot, beat people up, loot, rob and burn things down they're not really black Americans. You truly are pathetic.

Oh, yeah, Ibshame, ibescared..not! I'll say what I want. You keep your "uncle tom"/racist/slave owner comments to yourself LOL

August 14, 2014 at 10:11 p.m.

You don't even know who it is, stupid? What if the officer was black? You do know that blacks can be police officers, don't you?

Oh, YEAH..STRING HIM UP, and peace will be restored to the black community LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

August 14, 2014 at 10:13 p.m.

Yeah, ibshame, only you libs can comment on race because you're libs and you're just so SENNNNNSITIVE. You want blacks in their place on your plantation. You like your Aunt Jemima syrup, Uncle Ben's rice and your "darkies" voting Democrat or else you'll lash out at them and call them "uncle tom"

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

August 14, 2014 at 10:19 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

What if he was, Fister? Hypotheticals have no place in this discussion. But I'm sure if the "officer was black" and the kid was white, you'd want him to receive a lethal injection tomorrow. And then you'd try to connect it to Obama. You are a worthless human being. I'm sure you'll sit in that pew on Sunday, throwing your hands up to the lord, and then sit down at Ryan's with some of your other church buddies and all laugh and giggle how that kid got what he deserved.

August 14, 2014 at 10:20 p.m.

Racist libs. ibshame, your wouldn't have the balls to go up to any of those I mentioned and call them "uncle tom"..you're a eunuch, pajama boy.

August 14, 2014 at 10:22 p.m.
ibshame said...

Fister, You don't have an effing clue about what I would or would not do. I will say this again to you. If Sowell, Williams, Thomas or any of the rest of those uncle toms were standing on a corner on fire I wouldn't pour a bucket of p!ss on them to put out the fire. No doubt when Williams and Sowell write their columns about this incident, the sorry a$$ uncle toms will blame the young man who was killed that is their usual MO.

August 14, 2014 at 10:33 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

old redneck z-fisther sez, " BO is too busy rubbing elbows with the "1%" on Maaatha's Vineyard or in Hollywood LOL; police prey on African Americans" LOL oh, those poor criminals; First of all, they're not Africans, second of all just about 100% of everyone in prison belongs there, with a rare exception; You're a bunch of white guilt ridden pajama pricks always on the wrong side of all issues.; Oh, you're just so SENNNNNNNSTIVE to the needs of the black community.; Look like Sharpton if fishing for another Trayvon thing; Race industry vultures, like Sharpton, are the Democratic Party's idea of what a successful black American should be."

GI the likes of connie and z-fisther will never open their eyes to civility and rationality. They are too busy hating. It is mostly because their world is rapidly sinking into the abyss and they are helpless to stop it, like the folks laughing at Noah.Maxi admitted the 2-faced irony of defending Israel taking Palestinian homes and land but threatening me with his rifle for doing the same to him.

There may be hope for them, but it all rests on their own conscience, and frankly from what I see from posts such as the ones above, the words over the river styx as it flowed into the underworld seem appropriate, "Abandon hope all you who enter here." God save their souls.

Let them alone to gnash their teeth in the darkness, as sharks in a feeding frenzy maiming each other. They can use the white sheet draped over their heads to wipe their tears of blood.

August 14, 2014 at 10:50 p.m.

ibshame, you epitomize the arrogant liberal.

All of those "uncle toms", as you call them, grew up poor and faced racism. You know nothing. The spoiled, bored, entitled, violent crowd looting, burning and destroying businesses have no idea what real racism is. Racist pricks and con men like Al Sharpton make them feel as if they've been wronged by "the man". "the man" is black and in the WH. LOL. You Dems thrive on dividing. You don't fool anyone.

I laugh at your post ibshame and inq. Laugh. Especially you, inq. It's about as profound as what's written on the back of cereal box. Ibshame, you're phone indignation is laughable. LOLOLOLOLOL

You're the haters and the racists. You cloak it in liberalism, but make no mistake about it you want everyone in their place to fit into your agenda. Shame on you.

August 14, 2014 at 11:55 p.m.

I will bring race up as much I want. You are the racists and the bigots. ibshame, you nutless terd, you would never call them "Uncle Tom" to their face. You're just a stupid, insipid white pajama boy prick. LOLOLOLOL

August 14, 2014 at 11:58 p.m.
alprova said...

Z-man wrote: "All of those "uncle toms", as you call them, grew up poor and faced racism."

That is so not true on all levels, but it is your tale you love to tell, and it's pure fantasy.

August 15, 2014 at 12:10 a.m.
ibshame said...

Z fister you must have me confused with someone who gives a damn about what you write or think. You are just a poor dumba$$ who if you had lived during the 60's (when there were REAL riots in Watts, Newark, and other notable places) would have been hiding under a bed somewhere crying for your mama. I could care less about how often you bring up race because you don't have an effing clue about race. All your little mind is capable of doing is regurgitating what you hear on Drudge and that only amounts to you blaming President Obama for anything and everything that happens on the planet earth.

The bottom line in Missouri is this: that POS police officer committed MURDER. If not for those people protesting, another UNHARMED kid getting killed by an over zealous so called police officer would have ended with a false report being filed and that would be the end of it.

August 15, 2014 at 12:20 a.m.
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