published Tuesday, February 4th, 2014

The Snake Handler

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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MasterBlaster said...

Cue the Reich-wing poutrage!

Remember people, the 2nd amendment is exactly that, an amendment. It can be changed...

February 4, 2014 at 12:22 a.m.
blackwater48 said...

WHAT IS A WELL-REGULATED MILITIA?

And why do gun rights advocates pretend it doesn't exist?

February 4, 2014 at 12:32 a.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

blackwater48 said...

WHAT IS A WELL-REGULATED MILITIA?

And why do gun rights advocates pretend it doesn't exist?

Oh, it exists alright but it doesn’t make a damn bit of difference as to whether “the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed”. It’s the law of the land ... learn it ... live it ... or muster the means to change it. Otherwise tough sh!t on getting your interpretation validated.

February 4, 2014 at 1:11 a.m.

An another lefty turd to step around. How does taking guns away from law abiding citizens reduce crime and make it harder for criminals to acquire guns?

February 4, 2014 at 1:39 a.m.

Criminals laugh at gun control drones.

February 4, 2014 at 1:41 a.m.

Why the continual harassment of law abiding gun owners? Why crack down on them. How does that take the gun away from a gang banger, or some other criminal, huh????

It's all about control, you libs love control. Moochele telling us what we should eat, BO telling us what doctors we should have, can't smoke, can't drink soda, etc, etc. Kiss my a$$.

February 4, 2014 at 2:08 a.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

The United States has an estimated firearm-related homicide rate of about 3.6 per 100,000 people. This rate is in the top quarter of all countries.

Three states with diverse voting characteristics and firearm homicide rates (Virginia, Minnesota, and Louisiana) were investigated as a representative subset of the United States.

Virginia was a battleground state in the 2012 election with President Obama receiving about 3% more votes than Governor Romney... the Virginia 2012 firearm homicide rate was the 23rd highest in the nation at 2.7 per 100,000 people.

Minnesota was solidly blue in the 2012 election with President Obama receiving almost 8% more votes than Governor Romney. The Minnesota 2012 firearm homicide rate was the 43rd highest in the nation at 0.8 per 100,000 people.

Louisiana was a solidly red state in the 2012 election with President Obama receiving about 17% fewer votes than Governor Romney. The Louisiana 2012 firearm homicide rate was the highest in the nation at 8.0 per 100,000 people.

(Sure looks bad for the Red states ... Right?)

Each firearm homicide listed in Louisiana, Virginia, and Minnesota was mapped to an individual voting precinct and plotted against the percentage of the vote received by President Obama in 2012.

This indicates that almost 80% of the firearm homicides that were committed in Louisiana took place in voting precincts that gave President Obama more than 50% of the vote. The percentage of firearm homicides that occurred in similar Democrat voting precincts in Virginia and Minnesota were even higher.

By David Waciski

(Looks like guns don’t kill people, Democrats kill people ... How typical)

February 4, 2014 at 2:16 a.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

MasterBlaster said...

Cue the Reich-wing poutrage!

Remember people, the 2nd amendment is exactly that, an amendment. It can be changed...

As can they all, including the whole compact ... remember that when you are touting the absolute primacy of your favorite parts.

February 4, 2014 at 2:20 a.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

By Awr Hawkins:

According to the 2010 Death and Mortality numbers released by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), more children under the age of ten are unintentionally killed in fire or water-related incidents than are killed in accidental gun deaths.

Gun scholar John Lott pulled together various CDC tables showing that 36 children under the age of ten were killed in firearm-related accidents in 2010.

The number of children under the age of ten killed in "unintentional fire/burn deaths" was 262, and the number killed in "unintentional drowning" incidents was 609.

February 4, 2014 at 2:27 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

How can one explain that Russia has a much higher gun murder rate than the U.S.? Guns are banned in Russia.

Quite the conundrum for the left.

February 4, 2014 at 3:47 a.m.
conservative said...

Wrong Mr. Bennett.

The problem with guns is not with ALL the people in the USA, it is with ALL the Liberal people in the USA.

February 4, 2014 at 7:15 a.m.
Maximus said...

Not even Alprova, Dude, Yiddem, And Gaus's wet dream fantasy girls Nancy Pelosi and Hag Hillary will touch gun control or our 2nd. Ammendment rights during the upcoming mid term election season.

Now off to the range. I bought a Colt 1911 recently and can't wait to put some rounds down range!

February 4, 2014 at 7:29 a.m.
tifosi said...
    Charlotte-Mecklenburg police said a 10-year-old boy who attended Providence Day School died after a self-inflicted gunshot wound Wednesday morning.

    The shooting happened Wednesday morning at a home in the 4600 block of Connecting Road near South Boulevard in Charlotte.

    A CMPD source told NBC Charlotte that the father and 12-year-old sister were at home during the time of the shooting. The father was in the shower during the shooting.

    The boy shot himself in the head, according to the source.

Every gun in the hands of a child must first pass through the hands of an adult.

February 4, 2014 at 8:18 a.m.
tifosi said...
    Danville police are investigating an incident that sent a 5-year-old boy to the hospital with a gunshot wound.

    Director of Public Safety Larry Thomason said Sunday that police were called to Presence United Samaritans Medical Center emergency room about 9:30 p.m. Saturday.

    “The child was taken to the ER by private vehicle,” he said.  “Hospital staff alerted police.  The 5-year-old had a gunshot to the upper body.”

    “According to early investigation the incident took place in an apartment in the Belton Street area,” Thomason said. “It appears that another juvenile male, 10 years of age, was with the 5-year-old and a loaded weapon was being played with.”

Every gun in the hands of a child must first pass through the hands of an adult.

February 4, 2014 at 8:19 a.m.
tifosi said...

36-year-old Thomas Furin was in his home in Derry Township, Pennsylvania, arguing with his girlfriend over an affair he was having, so he loaded his rifle and threatened her with it. He then banged the butt of the rifle on the floor.

The rifle discharged, sending a round through the ceiling and into the foot and leg of his 11- or 12-year old daughter in the room above. The girl underwent surgery.

It happened the day before Christmas eve.

February 4, 2014 at 8:20 a.m.
tifosi said...
Greene County Sheriff Dan Langston said 3-year-old Logan Carter of Fontaine died from a gunshot wound in his head. The sheriff said a relative accidentally shot Logan with a .45-caliber semi-automatic handgun Saturday.

According to the sheriff's office, the boy's family took him to Arkansas Methodist Medical Center in Paragould after the shooting. The boy was pronounced dead at the hospital.

Langston said officials are still investigating the case to determine whether any charges should be filed.
February 4, 2014 at 8:21 a.m.
tifosi said...
    A 4-year-old boy was fatally shot in Detroit on Thursday in what police said was a tragic, avoidable accident.

    The shooter was the boy’s 4-year-old cousin.

    Sgt. Michael Woody, a Detroit police spokesman, said the children were playing in the back bedroom of a home in the 7100 block of Tuxedo when the cousin found a rifle — loaded and not locked in a case — underneath the bed.

    He said the girl pointed the gun at her cousin and pulled the trigger, shooting him in the chest. (...)

    Police Capt. Rodney Cox called the shooting a “tragic, tragic accident,” but one that was avoidable. Cox said the department stands behind responsible gun ownership, but “preliminarily, this does not appear to be responsible gun ownership.”

    Woody said guns should be kept unloaded, locked in a case and out of the reach of children.

    “This is an example of how we must maintain gun safety,” Cox said.
February 4, 2014 at 8:21 a.m.
tifosi said...

12-year old Mason Campbell was able to get his family's .20-gauge shotgun and ammo and brought them to his school, Berrendo Middle School, hidden in a band instrument case, in Roswell, New Mexico. He is a 7th-grader at the school.

Campbell entered the school gym, where a large number of students were gathered before school started, and opened fire.

A good article with details and images.

He shot an 11-year old boy twice in the face, and shot a 13-year old girl, Kendal Sanders, in the right shoulder. Both are now in the hospital. The girl is in satisfactory condition, while the boy has had two surgeries and is in critical condition. The 11-year old believes he was the intended target.

A social studies teacher, John Masterson, was able to talk the boy into surrendering the weapon.

The school had a security guard, but the guard wasn't near the situation as it unfolded.

The entire shooting lasted about 10 seconds.

The shooter, Mason Campbell, is apparently a hunter (see image) and is therefore, presumably, familiar with gun and gun safety.

The gun reportedly came from the family home. How had it been stored?

Every gun in the hands of a child must first pass through the hands of an adult.

February 4, 2014 at 8:23 a.m.
tifosi said...

Tennessee child unintentionally shot in the head at a home A child and his friend were at a home in Chattanooga, Tennessee, and handled an unsecured, loaded firearm.

One child pulled the trigger and hit the other in the back of the head.

Luckily, it appears the child may survive.

From an article:

Investigators tell Channel 3 that upon their arrival they found a child suffering from a significant bullet wound to the back of the head.

It was reported to police that the juvenile was with a friend and the two were handling a loaded firearm when the friend pulled the trigger of a small caliber revolver and accidentally struck the victim in the back of the head.

Investigators say the child was conscious and talking to officers and was brought to the hospital by his mother and is currently being treated for the injury that is believed to be non-life threatening

Investigators did recover the weapon. The investigation is ongoing and more information will be released when available.
February 4, 2014 at 8:24 a.m.
ibshame said...

TuDumb formerly known as Tuquo if you're going to quote articles from your Right Wing Rags at least give the readers the rags you're using. Hawkins writes a daily column for Brietbart (nothing but a right wing rag founded by a REAL RWNJ)and Waciski writes fantasy novels about a supposed plot in the House of Representatives. Yep, those guys you quoted are really credible alright. LOL

Jt6gR3hM - Copied articles from these so-called experts. LOL

AWR Hawkins - Listed as Conservative Writer for Brietbart.com

David Waciski is an engineer by training with interests in history, politics, and science. He is a transplant form the Midwest who has spent the last couple of decades in Southeastern Virginia

February 4, 2014 at 8:27 a.m.
AgentX said...

Here we go again. Everybody wants to point the finger the other way. It's always the same: people either want to ban guns, or people think everyone should have one. One extreme or the other. I, for one, am a gun owner. I consider myself a responsible gun owner too. I have completed the state requirements to carry a firearm where allowed by law. I do not carry where firearms are not allowed. I have a secure container where all of my weapons are kept, so that children and thieves can not get to them. I practice when I can, where it is legal to do so. I also teach my family about gun safety.
So what about these people that acquire firearms illegally, carry illegally, and then commit crimes? Isn't that where the problem lies? Why not increase the penalty for gun crimes?
Why not offer more education on gun safety and ownership? Why doesn't the government subsidize that? I mean, they can come up with money to give people on government assistance a cell phone for crying out loud.
What about requiring a government database that keeps a record of your firearms (serial number). They already have your VIN for your vehicles. This would encourage more people to go through a formal transfer, requiring a $10 background check on the buyer. Guess what, if they don't get approved, they don't get the gun. And if you try to perform a sale outside of the system, you could still be held partly liable for crimes committed with your gun by another individual, because it would still be linked to you, and you chose to bypass the system. And all the arguments about "big brother" keeping tabs on my guns is garbage. Heck, apparently they've been recording and keeping phone conversations for a while.

February 4, 2014 at 8:33 a.m.
cooljb said...

Liberals = no common sense

February 4, 2014 at 8:46 a.m.
tifosi said...

Conservative = ignorance

February 4, 2014 at 9:04 a.m.
moon4kat said...

I don't hear anyone attacking responsible gun owners. The problem is that so many are irresponsible: 1. leaving guns where they are accessible to children, 2. putting guns in the hands of the mentally deranged, 3. over-reacting to minor threats by shooting, 4. whipping up paranoia among the population, 5. failing to adequately train for accuracy and safety, 7. thinking that carrying a gun makes you a man.
There is a long list of incidents where gun owners were clearly irresponsible, resulting in the death of myriad innocents. Yet, we don't hear gun owners expressing concern about that, or doing anything to remedy the problem.

February 4, 2014 at 9:20 a.m.

Moon4kat, please. My gosh, there's a never ending attack on freedom in this country. It's creeped into every aspect of our lives. The NSA thing is real, the IRS being used as a weapon is real, despite BO's coverup. The fact that you libs continually attack the 2nd Amendment is proof solid.

You certainly have no chance to take guns away from criminals, they laugh at you. The crime rate will never go down by threatening to get rid of the 2nd Amendment.

Your stupid comment, "thinking that carrying a gun makes you a man" reveals exactly what you are.

Carrying a gun does make a gangbanger, or hitman feel a sense of power. Attack them. Owning a gun for self-defense is too logical for your libs.

February 4, 2014 at 9:31 a.m.
tifosi said...

moon4kat has hit the nail on the head. Gun owners must take more responsibility for policing their own - otherwise America will do it for them.

At the rate things are going, I anticipate America will consider amending the 2nd Amendment within ten years.

February 4, 2014 at 9:31 a.m.

The NRA is constantly under attack. Go after criminals with the same ferocity why don't you? You jump on anything to outlaw guns. Some lunatic gets a hold of some guns that his mother had, and you want to confiscate a gun from a hunter or someone who wants to protect themselves. Yeah, that makes sense. While you're at it, why not pass a law that we must all live like pajama boys in protective bubbles.

February 4, 2014 at 9:34 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

tiffy back from the go-kart circuit it would appear.

February 4, 2014 at 9:40 a.m.
jesse said...

Tifosi, to amend the 2nd amendment requires a constitutional convention , and that would open the entire const. to amendment!

With today congress that would be a disaster!That's a can of worms that doesn't need to be opened!!

February 4, 2014 at 9:49 a.m.
soakya said...

a well regulated militia is all abled bodied citizens.

many children drown each year should we ban tubs and pools. what about walking on frozen ponds?

February 4, 2014 at 10:03 a.m.
News_Junkie said...

I must confess that sometimes I have trouble divining exactly what is the point of Clay's cartoons. (I've had to request clarification before in the comments section and I will undoubtedly have to do so again in the future.)

This current cartoon is one of them. What exactly is he trying to say in the cartoon?

I'm sorry about being so dense. Thanks in advance for your assistance.

February 4, 2014 at 10:05 a.m.
moon4kat said...

zableed, No one said anything about confiscating guns from hunters. It seems that gun fanatics just go apoplectic (another reason sane people are concerned) over any attempt to have a serious conversation about a real problem. They seem incapable of discussing the obvious problems. Again, no one said anything about taking guns away from hunters (especially those who behave responsibly, as I think most do).

February 4, 2014 at 10:07 a.m.
soakya said...

"the most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. history shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing" Adolph hitler

February 4, 2014 at 10:11 a.m.
soakya said...

the second amendment is not about hunting. its about citizens of a state protecting theirself from an out of control tyrannical government.

February 4, 2014 at 10:14 a.m.
tifosi said...

Jesse - We have done it before.

Soakya - By way of the United States Constitution, our military means "subject races" are armed and always will be.

Remember "Government of the people, by the people, for the people." ?

I thank God I do not rely on the motley crew of gun owners in America to defend my rights.

BTW, gun owners against our military would look similar to the blow-out last Sunday.

February 4, 2014 at 10:19 a.m.

Soakya, exactly right.

Liberals always cloak their tyrannical agenda with their desire to "protect" us.

February 4, 2014 at 10:22 a.m.
tifosi said...

Conservatives always cloak their tyrannical agenda with their desire to "protect" us... now that's funny.

February 4, 2014 at 10:27 a.m.
soakya said...

and they thank god they don't rely on progressive cowards to defend their rights

February 4, 2014 at 10:33 a.m.
jesse said...

Tifosi, the FIRST thing out the door would be Roe X Wade then campaign financing law,then maybe 5 items down the list would come the 2nd amend. and the part about a "well regulated militia" would be gone and that's all!!

February 4, 2014 at 10:43 a.m.
tifosi said...

Thank God (those that believe capitalize that word) we don't rely on the "Right-wing, gun-owning, Keystone Cops that shoot themselves in the foot" to defend our rights.

February 4, 2014 at 10:44 a.m.
ibshame said...

"News_Junkie said... This current cartoon is one of them. What exactly is he trying to say in the cartoon?"

My interpretation ONLY: If you have ever heard the phrase "guns don't kill, people do" and if you read the lengthy article in Sunday's TFP(front page) the people who handle snakes in their religious services believe snakes only kill those who have not been "saved." So if a person has been truly saved he/she can handle the snakes and drink the poison(as stated in the bible) and they will not be harmed. Put the two together and you get guns only kill when people use them for killing and snakes only kill those not saved. As for the Bill of Rights over there next to the dead body, it's pretty obvious both groups (the snake handlers and the gun owners)see their choices as protected by that document.

The guy lying down looks pretty dead whether it was by a gun or a snake he's still dead. As I stated this intepretation is based on how I see the cartoon and not how anyone else might see it.

February 4, 2014 at 11:14 a.m.
soakya said...

those that believe don't murder babies

February 4, 2014 at 12:11 p.m.
tifosi said...

All of my off-spring are alive and I don't carry a gun.

Speaking of murdering babies... did you see this one?

"Greene County Sheriff Dan Langston said 3-year-old Logan Carter of Fontaine died from a gunshot wound in his head. The sheriff said a relative accidentally shot Logan with a .45-caliber"

February 4, 2014 at 12:17 p.m.
soakya said...

did you see where the teenager drowned recently while walking on ice. do you want to ban frozen ponds?

February 4, 2014 at 12:34 p.m.
AgentX said...

So we can't talk about the good stories? http://www.trussvilletribune.com/2014/01/31/pinson-neighbor-holds-burglary-suspect-at-gunpoint-until-deputies-arrive/ http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/20... http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/21487553/retired-widow-holds-burglar-at-gun-point http://www.chattanoogan.com/2012/8/27/233014/Neighbor-With-Carry-Permit-Puts-Burglar.aspx

And on and on... But those don't feed the political machine. Honestly, how many times have you read stories like this? They are obviously out there. They get buried because it doesn't stir things up. There are good and bad to gun ownership. It seems only the bad stories make the headlines, because that's what stirs everyone up.

February 4, 2014 at 12:36 p.m.
tifosi said...

Bearing Arms, Children and Guns: The Hidden Toll

The .45-caliber pistol that killed Lucas Heagren, 3, on Memorial Day last year at his Ohio home had been temporarily hidden under the couch by his father. But Lucas found it and shot himself through the right eye. “It’s bad,” his mother told the 911 dispatcher. “It’s really bad.”

A few days later in Georgia, Cassie Culpepper, 11, was riding in the back of a pickup with her 12-year-old brother and two other children. Her brother started playing with a pistol his father had lent him to scare coyotes. Believing he had removed all the bullets, he pointed the pistol at his sister and squeezed the trigger. It fired, and blood poured from Cassie’s mouth.

Just a few weeks earlier, in Houston, a group of youths found a Glock pistol in an apartment closet while searching for snack money. A 15-year-old boy was handling the gun when it went off. Alex Whitfield, who had just turned 11, was struck. A relative found the bullet in his ashes from the funeral home.

February 4, 2014 at 12:58 p.m.
AgentX said...

There are plenty of horrific stories out there. We just keep the gun related at the forefront. I hate thinking about terrible things that happen to children, but it seems to be the focus here today.

"Back in July 2010, an investigation was conducted in Utah for the suspicious death of a 5-year-old girl who suffered multiple high-impact blows from a prolonged assault with a yet-to-be-identified object. That object was discovered to be a spatula made from stainless steel and plastic. The girl’s mother, Angeles Cadillo-Castro, was charged with murder and the father was held for child abuse."

"“If I hadn’t gotten so drunk, I guess my baby wouldn’t have died” is quite possibly the least responsible statement ever made. China Arnold spoke these words after being charged with aggravated murder for putting her baby in the microwave and turning it on. Arnold was in an argument regarding her baby’s paternity while she was drunk. She commenced to place her child in the microwave and press start. The baby, named Paris, was cooked to death from being in the microwave for over two minutes. Arnold was found guilty and sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole."

"A 24-year-old Phoenix man is being charged with first-degree murder and child abuse for spanking his 2-year-old to death with a belt. The mother is also being charged with first-degree murder for failing to intervene in preventing the onslaught of leather belt. Darnell Alvarez was disciplining his child for wetting the bed. The disciplinary action caused the toddler to have a lacerated liver, internal bleeding and bruising all over his body. Davieanna Blake, the mother of the slain child, did not intervene because she “did not want to upset Darnell any further.” The couple is awaiting trial as this incident occurred on May 3, 2013."

February 4, 2014 at 1:23 p.m.
tifosi said...

Ridiculous comparison. At least these were prosecuted. Many gun owners get away with murder of their children because "It was an accident. They have suffered enough."

February 4, 2014 at 1:31 p.m.

tifosi, I think we've suffered enough from you liberals' twisted logic and double standards. "gun owners get away with murder" so says the liberal who thinks it's perfectly find and just to murder 55 million unborn Americans.

You liberals are fooling anyone, you're completely transparent. Control, control, control, that's what it's all about, whether who comes into the world or not, or what we can eat and drink, and so much more.

February 4, 2014 at 1:44 p.m.
tifosi said...

I'M JUST GETTING STARTED!!!!

February 4, 2014 at 2:04 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

tifosi said...

Ridiculous comparison.

**Of course it is tifosi. After all your examples are of children being killed and hurt in accidents caused by negligence. Agent X’s are examples of people intentionally harming and killing children.

At least these were prosecuted. Many gun owners get away with murder of their children because "It was an accident. They have suffered enough."

But even though those are ridiculous comparisons they should be treated the same under the law. After all the gun owners are “getting away with murder of their children” .... Right?

February 4, 2014 at 2:06 p.m.
tifosi said...

Charlotte Bacon, 6 - Charlotte was sweet, outgoing and full of energy, her grandmother told CNN affiliate WCCO in Minnesota.

"This is tough. This is surreal. You can't believe this could happen," Irene Hagen told the network. "The whole family is just devastated and we're all trying to come to terms with it."

She said her granddaughter loved school and dresses. Her hair was a mass of beautiful red curls.

"It's horrible. It's really horrible," Hagen told WCCO. "It's hard to believe that someone would kill children, innocent children."

February 4, 2014 at 2:07 p.m.
tifosi said...

Daniel Barden, 7 - Daniel earned his missing two front teeth, his family used to say. His "fearless" pursuit of happiness and life also earned him ripped jeans.

"Despite that, he was, as his mother said, 'Just So Good,'" his family wrote in a statement published in the New Haven Register.

Taking after his musician dad, Daniel and his siblings -- brother James and sister Natalie -- formed a band, in which he played drums.

He loved to ride waves at the beach and make s'mores around the bonfire with his cousins.

"He embodied everything that is wholesome and innocent in the world," the family said.

February 4, 2014 at 2:08 p.m.
tifosi said...

Olivia Engel, 6 - Her favorite stuffed animal was a lamb; pink and purple were her favorite colors.

Olivia's family posted a statement on Facebook with those and other details about their beloved daughter.

"She was insightful for her age and had a great sense of humor. She laughed a lot and always lit up a room including the people around her. She was very creative and was always drawing and designing things," her family said.

Olivia took art and dance lessons, played tennis, soccer and swam. She was involved in Girl Scouts and musical theater. She loved school and did well in math and reading.

Her family described her as a "grateful child ... never greedy." Olivia led grace each night at the dinner table

February 4, 2014 at 2:09 p.m.
tifosi said...

Josephine Gay, 7 - Josephine had just celebrated her seventh birthday Tuesday. There's a picture of her on the Web, published in various news stories, that shows her smiling with glasses on the tip of her nose.

Josephine liked to ride her bike and sell lemonade in her neighborhood in the summer, The Wall Street Journal reported. The little girl loved the color purple.

February 4, 2014 at 2:15 p.m.
tifosi said...

Dylan Hockley, 6 - Dylan and his family had just moved from England to Connecticut two years ago. "We specifically chose Sandy Hook for the community and the elementary school. We do not and shall never regret this choice," Dylan's family said in a statement.

Dylan's family said he loved to cuddle and play tag with neighbors at the bus stop every morning. "He was learning to read and was so proud when he read us a new book every day," the family said. "He adored his big brother Jake, his best friend and role model."

Dylan's parents also expressed gratitude to the educators who died with their son. "We cannot speak highly enough of Dawn Hochsprung and Mary Sherlach, exceptional women who knew both our children," the family said. "Dylan's teacher, Vicki Soto, was warm and funny and Dylan loved her dearly. We take great comfort in knowing that Dylan was not alone when he died, but was wrapped in the arms of his amazing aide, Anne Marie Murphy.

"Though our hearts break for Dylan, they are also filled with love for these and the other beautiful women who all selflessly died trying to save our children."

February 4, 2014 at 2:15 p.m.
tifosi said...

Madeleine F. Hsu, 6 - Sweet. Unique. Bright. Determined. Sparkling.

Those are words Madeleine's family used to describe their little girl.

"She was an avid reader who loved running and dancing," they said. "She was a born leader."

February 4, 2014 at 2:16 p.m.
tifosi said...

Catherine V. Hubbard, 6 - The little girl with bright red hair will be remembered for her smile and her love of animals.

Catherine is survived by her older brother, her parents, grandparents, great-grandmother, uncles, aunts and nine cousins.

"Her family prays that she, all the students of Sandy Hook Elementary, and all those affected by this brutal event find peace in their hearts," they wrote in her obituary.

In lieu of flowers, her family asked that people make donations to the Newtown Animal Center.

A Facebook page honoring Catherine spoke of how she is now an angel.

"Such a beautiful little soul," the post read, saying the family's loss is heaven's gain.

February 4, 2014 at 2:16 p.m.
tifosi said...

Chase Kowalski, 7 - What Chase really wanted for Christmas was two front teeth.

"I saw him two days ago, and I asked him if he wanted to see Santa, and he told me that he wanted his teeth back, and it was really sweet," Chase's neighbor Keeley Baumann, 13, told News Times.

At 6, Chase completed his first triathlon, but that was just one of his pursuits. He loved baseball. He was in the Cub Scouts. He looked forward to the kids' workshop at the local Home Depot.

"We are thankful to the Lord for giving us seven years with our beautiful loving son. It is with heavy hearts that we return him," the family said in an obituary.

February 4, 2014 at 2:17 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

tifosi said...

A 15-year-old boy was handling the gun when it went off. Alex Whitfield, who had just turned 11, was struck. A relative found the bullet in his ashes from the funeral home.

Not impossible but highly improbable unless the funeral home is burning bodies in their backyard and shoveling up the remains into a cardboard box to give to the family. In a legitimate process the “ash” from the crematory is sifted to remove bone fragments and foreign objects. the bone fragments are run through a “blender “type device to pulverized them into powder. The foreign objects are removed, prior to that, so as not to damage the device. Those are discarded or sold as scrap.

BTW ... what kind of ghouls would dig through a child's cremated remains to see what they could find? Oh Yes! ... A demented brain dead gun owner that murdered the child ... Right?

February 4, 2014 at 2:19 p.m.
AgentX said...

"The balance between public safety and individual freedom always makes for a heated debate. On one hand, the government has the responsibility of keeping its citizens safe, and on the other hand, individuals have the right to assert their independence from the government because we live in a free nation. For people in Los Angeles and around the country today, that debate centers around a 100 year old man who ran over a number of school children in his ancient Cadillac on Wednesday. According to CBS Los Angeles, eleven children and three adults were injured when the man, who will soon turn 101, jumped a curb near a south Los Angeles elementary school that had just released its students for the day."

"A California mother is facing murder charges in the 2012 death of her infant son, who reportedly died after drinking his mother’s breast milk laced with a variety of prescription drugs, according to HLN affiliate KTVU. Sarah Ann Stephens, 32, of Citrus Heights, was arraigned August 9 on charges of second-degree murder and two counts of felony child endangerment. On the morning of September 29, 2012, Stephens called 911 to report that her 8-month-old son, Ryder Salmen, was not breathing. The baby boy was pronounced dead at the scene. According to court documents, Stephens told authorities she put Ryder to bed around 7:30 p.m. the night before. At 9 p.m., the mother said, Ryder started crying so she brought him a bottle and left it propped up in his bassinet. Stephens told police she checked on her son two more times before discovering him dead at 7:30 a.m. the next day. However, in January 2013, Ryder’s death was declared a homicide when toxicology results revealed his cause of death as “acute alprazolam, methadone, and oxymorphone intoxication,” according to the Sacramento County Coroner’s report."

February 4, 2014 at 2:23 p.m.
tifosi said...

If gun owners don't start taking responsibility and stop casting the blame, or distracting to other issues, the American people will decide for them. Keep in mind who they elected the last two elections. It was a man that gun owners predominately do not support. That should tell gun owners that they do not control the majority. Children and their well-being will always carry the issue - including an amendment to the 2nd Amendment.

Think it won't happen??? Keep sitting on your hands gun owners. The day of reckoning is coming. Time for you to consider reasonable legislation to protect children from reckless gun owners.

February 4, 2014 at 2:24 p.m.
tifosi said...

Jesse Lewis, 6 - Jesse loved math, riding horses and playing at his mom's farm, his father told the New York Post.

"He was just a happy boy," said Neil Heslin. "Everybody knew Jesse."

He told the newspaper his son was to make gingerbread houses at school Friday. Heslin was planning to help.

Instead, the last time he saw his son was when he dropped him off at school at 9 a.m.

"He was going to go places in life," Heslin told the Post.

February 4, 2014 at 2:25 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

tifosi said...

Chase Kowalski, 7

Kids dropping dead from heart attacks (?) at the age of 7 ... very sad. It was probably all those triathlons he was competing in ... Right?

February 4, 2014 at 2:25 p.m.
tifosi said...

Ana Marquez-Greene, 6 - One, two, three, ready and go," Ana counts down in a homemade video provided to CNN affiliate WTIC.

The girl in pigtails stands in front of a piano as her brother plays. Her voice is clear, bigger than her size. Ana smiles and waves.

Her father, Jimmy Greene, is a jazz musician. His representative released a statement on Ana's death, describing the little girl as "beautiful and vibrant."

"The family has requested privacy at this time of heartbreaking loss," it read. They "have asked us to relay their sincere gratitude for the outpouring of support and sympathy locally, nationally and internationally."

February 4, 2014 at 2:26 p.m.
tifosi said...

James Mattioli, 6 - As he was quick to remind everyone, James was 6 and 3/4. "He loved to wear shorts and T-shirts in any weather and grab the gel to spike his hair," his family said in a loving obituary. "He would often sing at the top of his lungs, and once asked, 'How old do I have to be to sing on a stage?'"

Indoors, he spent his time playing games on the iPad -- especially the lawn mowing one. Outdoors, he loved to dive off the diving board, "swim like a fish" in his grandfather's pool and ride his bike -- without training wheels, mind you. "I need to go outside, Mom. I need fresh air," he would often say.

He was born 4 weeks early -- because he was hungry, his family joked. James had a voracious appetite. His favorites? His dad's egg omelets with bacon, and his mom's French toast.

He looked up to his older sister, wanting to do everything she could. "They were the best of friends, going to school together, playing games together, and making endless drawings and crafts together." The boy, whose family fondly called "J," will be incredibly missed, they said.

February 4, 2014 at 2:26 p.m.
tifosi said...

Grace McDonnell, 7 - Grace was the "light and love of our family," her mother told CNN.

She loved her brother, school, the beach and wanted to be a painter.

For her 7th birthday in November, Grace requested a purple cake with a turquoise peace sign and polka dots. And that's exactly what she got.

"She was all about peace and gentleness and kindness," Lynn McDonnell told CNN's Anderson Cooper. "Grace didn't have an ounce of hate in her, and so we have to live through Grace and realize that hate is not how our family is."

The family drew cupcakes, ice creams cones, lighthouses and seagulls -- all things Grace loved -- on her tiny white casket.

February 4, 2014 at 2:27 p.m.
tifosi said...

Emilie Parker, 6 - Emilie "was the type of person who could light up a room," her father told reporters Saturday. His oldest daughter was "bright, creative and very loving," and "always willing to try new things other than food," Robbie Parker said.

"Emilie Alice Parker was the sweetest little girl I've ever known," her aunt, Jill Cottle Garrett, said. The family is devastated that "someone so beautiful and perfect is no longer going to be in our lives and for no reason," Garrett said.

"My daugher Emilie would be one of the first ones to be standing up and giving her love and support to all of those victims, because that is the type of person she is," her father said. Emilie's "laughter was infectious," he said. "This world is a better place because she has been in it."

Emilie was a mentor to her two younger sisters -- ages 3 and 4 -- and "they looked to her when they needed comfort," her father said.

A Facebook page was created to collect donations to help pay expenses to take Emilie back to her native Utah for burial, her aunt said.

February 4, 2014 at 2:28 p.m.
tifosi said...

Jack Pinto, 6 - Jack was a first-grader, and his interests ran the gamut -- baseball, basketball, wrestling, snow skiing. But his first love was football, and his idol was New York Giants star receiver Victor Cruz.

Cruz paid tribute to the team's young fan by scribbling "Jack Pinto. My Hero" on one of his cleats and "R.I.P. Jack Pinto" on the other during the team's game with the Atlanta Falcons over the weekend. On his glove, Cruz wrote, "Jack Pinto. This one is 4 U!"

Jack recently participated in his first wrestling match and won a medal, according to the president of the New Milford Wrestling Association.

"In life and in death, Jack will forever be remembered for the immeasurable joy he brought to all who had the pleasure of knowing him, a joy whose wide reach belied his six short years," Jack's family wrote in an obituary for the little boy.

February 4, 2014 at 2:29 p.m.
tifosi said...

Noah Pozner, 6 - "He had a huge heart and he was so much fun, a little bit rambunctious, lots of spirit," Noah's aunt told CNN. "He was really the light of the room."

Victoria Haller said her nephew loved playing with his cousins and siblings, especially his twin sister.

"He was a gorgeous, gorgeous boy and he could really get what he wanted just by batting those long eyelashes and looking at you with those big blue eyes. You really couldn't say no to him," she said.

His siblings don't know yet the exact way in which Noah passed away, Haller said.

"How do you tell them that's how their brother died?" she asked. "It's the unthinkable really."

February 4, 2014 at 2:33 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

OMG !! ... That was wrong of me to post that ... It is just so despicable to exploit the deaths of children to score debating points ... don't you think so as well ...tifosi?

February 4, 2014 at 2:33 p.m.
tifosi said...

Caroline Previdi, 6 - "You were a sweet little girl and you will be missed."

That's the message that Caroline's aunt reportedly tweeted, saying goodbye to her niece, according to the online version of the Press-Telegram in Long Beach, California.

"It hurts even more to see a familiar name on that list," the report said Paige Tremblay also tweeted.

A Facebook page called "RIP Caroline Previdi -- Sandy Hook Massacre Victim" contains dozens of messages. One reads: "Rest in Peace, sweetheart. I know for sure that God is with you and all the other sweet little angels. I feel so very sorry for all these families who lost their precious kids, my heart goes out to all of you."

February 4, 2014 at 2:34 p.m.
tifosi said...

Jessica Rekos, 6 - Jessica loved everything about horses -- horse movies, horse books, drawing horses and writing stories about them.

She asked Santa this year for new cowgirl boots and a cowgirl hat. Her family had promised she could get her own horse when she turned 10.

"She was a creative, beautiful, little girl," her family said in a statement, describing Jessica as their "rock."

"She had an answer for everything, she didn't miss a trick, and she outsmarted us every time. We called her our little CEO for the way she carefully thought out and planned everything," they said. "We can not imagine our life without her."

Jessica also loved orca whales and playing with her two little brothers.

"We are mourning her loss, sharing our beautiful memories we have of her, and trying to help her brother Travis understand why he can't play with his best friend," her family said.

February 4, 2014 at 2:34 p.m.
tifosi said...

Avielle Richman, 6 - Avielle was happiest when she was on a horse.

Her trainer, Annette Sullivan, told the Connecticut Post that Avielle would "giggle when she trotted."

Like kids her age, her first wobbly tooth was a sign she was growing up.

"She showed me her wiggly tooth, she was so excited," Sullivan told the newspaper. "She was the most delightful little girl you ever met in your life."

February 4, 2014 at 2:35 p.m.
tifosi said...

Benjamin Wheeler, 6 - Ben loved The Beatles, lighthouses and the No. 7 train to Sunnyside, Queens, his family said in a statement. He and his older brother Nate "filled the house with the noise of four children."

"Ben Wheeler was an irrepressibly bright and spirited boy whose love of fun and excitement at the wonders of life and the world could rarely be contained. His rush to experience life was headlong, creative and immediate," his family said. Ben loved soccer and swimming. Recently, he performed at a piano recital -- a major feat for a little boy who rarely sat still. Friday morning before school, he told him mom: "I still want to be an architect, but I also want to be a paleontologist, because that's what Nate is going to be and I want to do everything Nate does."

The family moved to Newtown in 2007. Francine Wheeler, Ben's mother, is a music teacher and performer. Francine Wheeler's band posted the following message on its Facebook page: "Francine Wheeler, a founding member of The Dream Jam Band, has lost her precious 6-year old son, Ben, to the tragedy in Newtown, Connecticut. Our prayers and love go out to Francine, David and Ben's big brother, Nate."

February 4, 2014 at 2:36 p.m.
tifosi said...

Allison N. Wyatt, 6 - Once, Allison offered her snacks to a complete stranger on plane. That's just the type of person she was.

Allison was a "sweet, creative, funny, intelligent little girl who had an amazing life ahead of her," her parents said.

They described their daughter as kind-hearted. She loved to draw and wanted to be an artist.

"She loved to laugh and was developing her own wonderful sense of humor that ranged from just being a silly 6-year-old to coming up with observations that more than once had us crying with laughter," her parents said.

"Allison made the world a better place for six, far too short years, and we now have to figure out how to move on without her ... We love and miss her so much."

February 4, 2014 at 2:36 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Tiffi: Roll a fat one, buy yourself a water gun and shut the fu#* up. Tell us how to get the guns from the gang bangers or stuff it up your ass.

Or how about moving to Estonia where guns are banned but the gun crime is almost seven times that of the good ol' USA.

February 4, 2014 at 2:48 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

tifosi said...

Keep sitting on your hands gun owners. The day of reckoning is coming. Time for you to consider reasonable legislation to protect children from reckless gun owners.

The Fleabaggers could have gotten that “reasonable legislation” during the last viable gun control legislation attempt. However they manipulated the Senate voting rules to get only the plan they wanted with no amendments or produced no law at all. That way they wouldn’t have to compromise and if the law failed they could exploit the lack of passage for political purposes.

They knew, before the vote, that there was bipartisan opposition against their bill, to extent it was destined to fail. So you can guess which choice they made and it had nothing to do with gun control or public safety.

Read the article linked to below if you want the details of the Fleabaggers deception.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887324493704578430672176449846

“The Gun Rights Consensus”

“The real reasons the Senate trounced the Obama agenda.”

February 4, 2014 at 2:59 p.m.
AgentX said...

@tifosi At 8:33a.m., I provided suggestions for ways to help keep guns out of the wrong hands, and (gun safety)education for people that have every legal right to own a firearm. I also have suggested before that there be incentives/discounts to purchasing a security container to keep firearms locked up and away from kids. Tossing one under the couch is negligence. However, I fail to see what you have proposed that could add value to the discussion that backs your stance against firearms. If you have a better idea, please present it. And simply saying "take away all guns" is not realistic at this point in time.

February 4, 2014 at 3:04 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

tifosi said...

If gun owners don't start taking responsibility and stop casting the blame, or distracting to other issues, the American people will decide for them. Keep in mind who they elected the last two elections. It was a man that gun owners predominately do not support. That should tell gun owners that they do not control the majority. Children and their well-being will always carry the issue - including an amendment to the 2nd Amendment.

I guess you forgot that gun owners only need 34% support in just one of the houses of Congress and 26% support of the states. The president can just pound sand if he can overcome those numbers. So good luck with that ... Pal

February 4, 2014 at 3:10 p.m.
facyspacy said...

9 times more children died from drowning in a pool than from a firearm last year. 8 times more children died from household poisoning than a firearm last year. 7 times more children died from suffocation than firearms last years. Get this, 50 times more children died from an automobile accident than they did from firearms. Tiffany's point is noted and everyone is now more stupid by readings her posts.

A pool must first be built by an adult before a child goes swimming.

February 4, 2014 at 3:16 p.m.
tifosi said...

TOES02800 said...

"Tiffi: Roll a fat one, buy yourself a water gun and shut the fu#* up. Tell us how to get the guns from the gang bangers or stuff it up your ass.

Or how about moving to Estonia where guns are banned but the gun crime is almost seven times that of the good ol' USA."

Tough shyte ol' man. Gonna stay here and stick it up your @ss

BTW... gang bangers get guns from the same place children do. From reckless gun owners that leave firearms unsecured. Stupid is as stupid does.

February 4, 2014 at 3:26 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

I wouldn't be afraid of you anyway. You don't even have a gun.

"Stick it up my ass"? is that what the kids are calling it these days?

February 4, 2014 at 3:29 p.m.
tifosi said...

But, I can still pick you off at 500 yards.

February 4, 2014 at 3:31 p.m.
ibshame said...

"Jt6gR3hM said... I guess you forgot that gun owners only need 34% support in just one of the houses of Congress and 26% support of the states. The president can just pound sand if he can overcome those numbers. So good luck with that ... Pal"

Maybe it would be a good idea if people would ACTUALLY READ ARTICLE V OF THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION. That way when one spouts BS like the statement of needing only 34% support in Congress and 26% in the states they would know that's an inaccurate statement.

According to ARTICLE V of the U.S. Constitution an amendment can be PROPOSED by a 2/3 MAJORITY(66% OR 290 IN THE HofR and 66% OR 66 IN THE SENATE) of both houses of Congress or 2/3 of conventions called for by the state legislatures(33 STATE LEGISLATURES-66%)

Then the amendment must be RATIFIED(Approved). That can be done in one of the following two ways: 3/4 of the state legislatures have to approve the Amendment 3/4 OF 50 = 37 STATES or 74% or Ratifying Conventions must be held in 3/4 of the states. Again 3/4 of 50 = 37 STATES or 74%. Once the amendment has been ratified or approved in one of those two ways then and only then can it be added to the Constitution.

So the above statement about needing only 34% in one house and 26% support of the states is a LIE. But what to expect from Tudumb formerly known as Tuquoque? Probably got her figures from Brietbart.com or some other right wing rag. LOL

February 4, 2014 at 3:51 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

Ioughttobeashame said...

TuDumb formerly known as Tuquo if you're going to quote articles from your Right Wing Rags at least give the readers the rags you're using. Hawkins writes a daily column for Brietbart (nothing but a right wing rag founded by a REAL RWNJ)and Waciski writes fantasy novels about a supposed plot in the House of Representatives. Yep, those guys you quoted are really credible alright. LOL

Jt6gR3hM - Copied articles from these so-called experts. LOL

AWR Hawkins - Listed as Conservative Writer for Brietbart.com David Waciski is an engineer by training with interests in history, politics, and science. He is a transplant form the Midwest who has spent the last couple of decades in Southeastern Virginia

Very odd that you took your “valuable time” to research those two writers but not any attempt at all to counter any of the facts they referred to. Could that be, because you're incapable of doing so or maybe it’s just that they are right? I think it is the latter and it simply burns your a^^ that they destroy your weak a^^ed talking points... Right?

February 4, 2014 at 3:54 p.m.
ibshame said...

"Jt6gR3hM said... Very odd that you took your “valuable time” to research those two writers but not any attempt at all to counter any of the facts they referred to. Could that be, because you're incapable of doing so or maybe it’s just that they are right? I think it is the latter and it simply burns your a^^ that they destroy your weak a^^ed talking points... Right?"

Whenever I'm bored and need to do something to keep me awake, I take the time to read and in reading I ALWAYS come to the editorial section to see what RWNJ are spewing about when it comes to Mr. Bennett's editorial cartoons. If nothing else it offers comic relief on some days. So there was nothing valuable about what I did when it comes to using my time to research the "expertise" you offered as fact today. I knew what I would find but sometimes you just never know with some but what you use as "expertise" is SO PREDICTABLE LOL

As for disputing what they have written would be a total waste of time for they have only written their OPINIONS. And you know the old saying "Opinions are like a^^ holes everyone has one. And some people are just like their opinions. LOL

February 4, 2014 at 4:02 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

Ioughttobeashame said...

So the above statement about needing only 34% in one house and 26% support of the states is a LIE.

Sure looks like you went to school where boosting your self esteem was more important than arriving at the correct answer. When you said 2+2= 5 the teacher said “you’re so precious and bless your little heart”.

February 4, 2014 at 4:24 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

Ioughttobeashame said...

Whenever I'm bored and need to do something to keep me awake

Have you ever noticed that all of the people you come in contact with always become sleepy within a few minutes?

So there was nothing valuable about what I did

You got that right.

As for disputing what they have written would be a total waste of time for they have only written their OPINIONS.

I guess you have refined your Fleabagger talking points to the level that you can simply disregard FBI crime statistics and official election poll results ... Right?

And you know the old saying "Opinions are like a^^ holes everyone has one. And some people are just like their opinions. LOL

You seemed to have posted that with a certain bit of fondness for it’s content.

February 4, 2014 at 4:44 p.m.
soakya said...

exactly facyspacy, the reason liberals go after guns and not pools or other objects that contribute to a child's death is because its not about saving childrens life its about control. if it was about saving the children then all the things you mentioned would be in the progressives playbook but it isn't, only guns.

if tifs was actually concerned about children she would be concerned about the things you listed, she's concerned about control. and she has proved it today. now after she and her progressive friends take care of the guns she knows shes free to work on other things she feel you don't need.

February 4, 2014 at 4:48 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

Look, I own two guns and I am not advocating the government potentially taking guns from citizens, but there are a couple of things I take issue with in this thread.

  1. Stop with the whole, "we need guns to protect us from a tyrannical government". It may have held water in the 1700's when the US military had basically the same weapons as US citizens, but that is no longer the case. A tyrannical leader could just nuke a city and no gun would help you in that situation.

  2. Stop with the whole "picking on the NRA". The NRA is a lobbying organization with the prime mission of maximizing gun and ammo sales.

The thing that drives me crazy now is when someone shoots another person, it seems that the "conservatives" want to take the side of the shooter, no matter what. I recall after Sandy Hook, you had a bunch of "conservative" conspiracy-theorists proclaiming that no children were killed and it was a plot by the govt to impose a gun ban. I have heard conservatives saying that the retired cop in FL was justified in shooting the guy in the movie theater because he got hit with some popcorn.

February 4, 2014 at 5 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

And you guys crying about rights, where were you when our rights were being stripped away via the Patriot Act? Conservatives had no problem with losing rights under the guise of being protected from Islamic terrorists. That's what cracks me up when you guys bring up the NSA spying, WTF did you think was going to happen when this thing got voted in by both parties?

February 4, 2014 at 5:07 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

^^^^ Gassy, your last paragraph is ludicrous.

February 4, 2014 at 5:08 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

It's true. How much time was spent showing how big of a criminal Trayvon Martin was even though Zimmerman was the one that had a criminal record and has been recently arrested for violence with a gun?

February 4, 2014 at 5:20 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

tifosi said...

But, I can still pick you off at 500 yards.

Be very careful of tifosi ... If I remember correctly he has sent many a “pellet” downrange. He can be one more bada^^ when he is forced to fall back on his combat training ... if you know what I mean by “combat”.

February 4, 2014 at 5:35 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

GaussianInteger said...

It's true. How much time was spent showing how big of a criminal Trayvon Martin was even though Zimmerman was the one that had a criminal record and has been recently arrested for violence with a gun?

If what you call a “criminal record” applies to the Zman then Trayvon had one as well. Also if the Zman did not have the gun then Trayvon would now be serving time for criminal assault or murder.

What “might have been” has no bearing on the fact that the Zman was found to be justified in his righteous killing of a punk that though he was a bada^^, bullet proof, and his youth would get him out of any predicament he stupid got himself into.

February 4, 2014 at 5:44 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

GaussianInteger said...

And you guys crying about rights, where were you when our rights were being stripped away via the Patriot Act? Conservatives had no problem with losing rights under the guise of being protected from Islamic terrorists. That's what cracks me up when you guys bring up the NSA spying, WTF did you think was going to happen when this thing got voted in by both parties?

Conservatives had no problem ... voted in by both parties ... Really?

February 4, 2014 at 5:48 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

GaussianInteger said...

Stop with the whole, "we need guns to protect us from a tyrannical government". It may have held water in the 1700's when the US military had basically the same weapons as US citizens, but that is no longer the case. A tyrannical leader could just nuke a city and no gun would help you in that situation.

Yeah just like in Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Syria and Yemen, recently. In many cases the military, individually or in groups, abandoned the leaders. Since the president can’t personally push the button or pull the trigger how do you think the military, in mass, would ever attack their own families and friends? You line of thinking on this is what is confused.

Stop with the whole "picking on the NRA". The NRA is a lobbying organization with the prime mission of maximizing gun and ammo sales.

Doesn’t that apply to all NGO’s including labor unions that lobby the government. That they want to maximize their wealth and power over the public?

The thing that drives me crazy now is when someone shoots another person, it seems that the "conservatives" want to take the side of the shooter, no matter what. I recall after Sandy Hook, you had a bunch of "conservative" conspiracy-theorists proclaiming that no children were killed and it was a plot by the govt to impose a gun ban. I have heard conservatives saying that the retired cop in FL was justified in shooting the guy in the movie theater because he got hit with some popcorn.

As usual, employing the really wide brush ... aren’t you?

You should know that I have heard Fleabaggers say they want to turn this country into a Communist dictatorship. So it seems that the Fleabaggers are on the side of anti-American and anti-democratic forces.

February 4, 2014 at 6:18 p.m.
volsam said...

Let me get this straight, the Federal Government and the left wants to take guns away from law abiding citizens and at the same time they want to arm the foreign jihadi fighters in Syria. That's totally backwards. What have the progressive liberals done with our once great country.

February 4, 2014 at 6:41 p.m.
Maximus said...

Tifosi....wow.....get a job man. Anybody see Barry The Welfare Pimp whining to Bill O'Reilly about how Fox News picks on him just to get ratings. And it was Fox News that "created" the Benghazi scandal. Folks, at least for the first time, Obamer did not blame Bush for his problems. If you missed the OReilly pre Super Bowl interview with Barry Cetera Da Pimp Obama google it.....Obama without a tie being very unpresidential. OReilly ate his lunch! And Tifosi why don't you take a walk on the bad side of town......

February 4, 2014 at 6:47 p.m.
volsam said...

Gaussianinteger, concerning your 5:07 post, I think your confused. The RINO wing of the Republican party supported the patriot act not the CONSERVATIVE wing. The establishment Republicans are NOT conservative.

February 4, 2014 at 6:49 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

^^^^ for one thing, they hijacked a perfectly good word....progressive.

February 4, 2014 at 6:49 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

"Doesn’t that apply to all NGO’s including labor unions that lobby the government. That they want to maximize their wealth and power over the public?"

Maybe. Have I ever defended any "NGO's"?

"Yeah just like in Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Syria and Yemen, recently.

You are honestly comparing the US to those countries?

"his righteous killing of a punk that though he was a bada^^, bullet proof, and his youth would get him out of any predicament he stupid got himself into."

Thanks, JT for validating my point.

February 4, 2014 at 7:22 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

"The RINO wing of the Republican party supported the patriot act not the CONSERVATIVE wing"

The only Senator that voted against the Patriot Act in 2001 was Russ Feingold (you check to see which party he belonged). The bill passed in the house 357 to 66 (with the majority of voting nay being democrats).

So one can only draw one of two conclusions.

Either there were no "Conservatives" in either the House or Senate in 2001.

OR

You are mistaken.

February 4, 2014 at 7:36 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

Jt, I got this from FoxNews:

"A list of George Zimmerman's past run-ins with the law.

— July 2005, Zimmerman was arrested and accused of resisting an officer with violence near the University of Central Florida campus after a scuffle with police. The charges were eventually dropped after Zimmerman entered an alcohol education program.

— August 2005, Zimmerman's former fiancee filed for a restraining order against him, alleging domestic violence. Zimmerman responded by requesting a restraining order against her. Both requests were granted. No criminal charges were filed.

— February 2012, Zimmerman fatally shot 17-year-old Trayvon Martin during a confrontation in the community where Zimmerman was a neighborhood watch volunteer. Zimmerman was charged with second-degree murder but acquitted after a trial in July 2013.

— July 2013, police in Foley, Texas, stop Zimmerman for speeding in a 60 mph zone. Zimmerman is let go with just a warning.

— September 2013, Zimmerman is stopped by police in Lake Mary, Fla., and given a ticket for doing 60 mph in a 45 mph zone.

— September 2013, Zimmerman's estranged wife, Shellie, dials 911 and tells a police dispatcher that her punched her father and threatened her with a gun. She later decides against pressing charges and authorities announce in November they are dropping the case.

— September 2013, a Florida Highway Patrol trooper stops Zimmerman along Interstate 95 and issues a warning because the vehicle's tag cover and windows were too darkly tinted.

— November 2013, Zimmerman is arrested by Seminole County authorities after a disturbance at a home in Apopka."

February 4, 2014 at 7:42 p.m.
sagoyewatha said...

This cartoon, like all this chatter about guns, clearly demonstrates a massive case of penis envy. Since most of the misused guns are in the hands of thugs in district 7, I believe councilperson Chris Anderson should be recalled, he has not attempted to try anything to solve the problem. George Zimmerman, on the other hand, did the right thing. After his head was busted. By a thug. Stroke that for a while!

February 4, 2014 at 7:45 p.m.
prairie_dog said...

Where's the cartoon with bullet holes in the sign for MLK Drive? That one has a lot more local meaning, don't you think?

February 4, 2014 at 8:52 p.m.
volsam said...

Gaussianinteger, I think you are making my point. The republican party is not the conservative party. The Republican party hasn't been conservative since 1988.Thats why I don't consider myself a Republican. They are pathetic spineless cowards for not fighting the progressives and this piece of work we have to call Mr. President with everything they have.

February 4, 2014 at 10:02 p.m.
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