published Tuesday, June 24th, 2014

The Off Ramp

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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inquiringmind said...

The cartoon points out a different, subjective "reality." Objective reality knows that there is an exit ramp out of that loop. Its perceived absence is due to a state of mind fearing possible consequences that blinds the person to seeing and using the exit. All war is evil.

June 24, 2014 at 8:04 a.m.
GaussianInteger said...

All of the Chickenhawks from the Bush era have now become peace-loving hippies. Iraq was left a craphole after Desert Storm. Ten years later, "we" decided Saddam was somehow affiliated with 9/11 and "we" decided to establish a Democratic-utopia in the Middle East. Thousands of lives and hundreds of billions of dollars later, we have come full circle. "Mission Accomplished".

If Obama chooses military action against Iraq, it would be the second biggest f-up of his presidency. The first being the re-authorization of the Patriot Act.

June 24, 2014 at 9:04 a.m.

All War is not evil. That's a stupid generalization. If you're just minding your own business, then attacked, and you're forced to defend yourself, then how is that evil? Should you just let yourself be trampled on?

The Iraq war should not have happened. The amount of people that went along with it/approved of it is solid proof how incompetent and dangerous those in positions of power can be.

What happened after was pretty predictable given the nature of that region. There's nothing wrong with wanting people to enjoy the freedom that we do, but to believe that it can happen there with extremist Islam as the major force is dangerously stupid.

Gee, who wouldn't have thought that Iran would try and move on in after we leave? What did we think was going to happen when we pull out? What we have now is Kerry lecturing Iraq on defending its borders when we can't even defend out own. We have a government run by evil clowns, and not just the one now.

June 24, 2014 at 9:06 a.m.
timbo said...

Even a blind, dumb, liberal hog can find an acorn every now and again.... Bennett is finally right about something.

June 24, 2014 at 9:12 a.m.

It's quite the opposite, you libs are ok with BO interfering in the middle-east because he's a Dem. Dems went along with the Iraq invasion as well. They can't claim ignorance. They were a party to it.

Nobody should be interfering in the middle-east. It's a lost cause. The oil states there have plenty of money to fight off extremist Islamist lunatic, they don't need our help.

June 24, 2014 at 9:20 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Walk away from it, I guess. What do we do if ISIS attacks Jordan? Serious question.

June 24, 2014 at 9:21 a.m.
timbo said...

TheJackDennis....There is no cure from this cancer. We either have to wipe them all out, or stay out of it. America doesn't have the stomach to do what it takes and they won't until there is a major attack on our soil.

June 24, 2014 at 9:26 a.m.
timbo said...

I apologize to hogs for comparing Bennett to them. No one deserves that....

June 24, 2014 at 9:27 a.m.

ISIS is even more of out of control than the other terrorist organizations. Jordan is in danger. What if we give them air support?

As far troops and nation building, never again.

June 24, 2014 at 9:34 a.m.
timbo said...

If the "moderate" Muslims won't fight for their freedom, why should we?

June 24, 2014 at 10:14 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

The Jordanian king is "moderate". Doubt the rank n file Jordanian, Habeeb Sixpack is.

June 24, 2014 at 10:20 a.m.
timbo said...

These people are so emotional and illogical they can't be ruled except with a despotic dictator or religious fanatic. That was the miscalculation of the Bush administration and Saddam.

We will have to fight them sooner or later because there will be another attack, probably nuclear or chemical, in our lifetime. Sadly that will be the only thing that will get the American people to make a final solution. Until then, let them kill each other.

June 24, 2014 at 10:29 a.m.
Easy123 said...

"final solution"? What a tremendously poor choice of words. Or maybe it was intentional...

June 24, 2014 at 10:31 a.m.
timbo said...

Easy123....Only for someone looking for something like you always do. You are a sad little puppy...

Again, accuse someone of something so ridiculous just to embarrass and intimidate. Easy..you are becoming a caricature. Saul Alinsky all the way..

I meant an all out war to protect our country from attack. These guys have to be defeated in the same way we did the Nazis and the Japanese. They have to be completely beaten and then we will have to build them back with a long term troop commitment.

You are sick...

June 24, 2014 at 10:38 a.m.
Easy123 said...

timboner,

"Easy123....Only for someone looking for something like you always do. You are a sad little puppy..."

What was I looking for? You're the one that used a phrase that is directly associated with Nazi's and genocide. Do you use the phrase "final solution" a lot in conversation? How does someone "coincidentally" use that phrase in reference to war and a particular group of people?

"Again, accuse someone of something so ridiculous just to embarrass and intimidate. Easy..you are becoming a caricature. Saul Alinsky all the way.."

Show me what I accused you of.

There wasn't a time when you weren't a caricature; a farce.

Also, you seem to know more about and mention Saul Alinsky more than anyone I've ever come across. Could it be another projection from you? Or, maybe, you're just parroting Rush Limbaugh and your Fox News comrades?

"I meant an all out war to protect our country from attack. These guys have to be defeated in the same way we did the Nazis and the Japanese. They have to be completely beaten and then we will have to build them back with a long term troop commitment."

I assume you'll be the first to sign up for the military when this "all out war" occurs, correct?

"You are sick..."

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

June 24, 2014 at 10:43 a.m.
timbo said...

Easy123...I am too old to sign up....but I sure that if it happens my children and grand children will have to fight it. I would much rather it be me than them. Us old guys have lived our lives. Of course, that won't happened.

Maybe you can be a contentious objector, more likely a you will just be a coward...

June 24, 2014 at 10:46 a.m.
Easy123 said...

timboner,

"Easy123...I am too old to sign up....but I sure that if it happens my children and grand children will have to fight it."

So quick to send others to die. Typical of chicken-hawks. The term "coward" doesn't do you and your ilk justice. You're worse than a coward.

"I would much rather it be me than them. Us old guys have lived our lives. Of course, that won't happened."

If you really cared about anyone else's life, you wouldn't be so quick to mention "all out war" as a possibility while you sit back knowing you're "too old". "I would much rather it be me"...yeah, right.

"Maybe you can be a contentious objector, more likely a you will just be a coward..."

Ironic coming from someone that was likely never in any branch of military and just admitted that he wouldn't fight in this hypothetical "all out war", but would send others to die in his stead. You're, apparently, too dumb to realize you just admitted your own cowardice.

June 24, 2014 at 10:51 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Easy continues with his despicable name calling, insinuating rants. This kid has issues.

June 24, 2014 at 10:57 a.m.

Good point Timbo. Nation building is madness. But, yeah, probably sooner or later some Islamic terrorists will get a hold of one of those nation's nuclear weapons. Then we'll have no choice but to do something.

June 24, 2014 at 10:58 a.m.
Easy123 said...

"because there will be another attack, probably nuclear or chemical, in our lifetime. Sadly that will be the only thing that will get the American people to make a final solution."

"probably sooner or later some Islamic terrorists will get a hold of one of those nation's nuclear weapons. Then we'll have no choice but to do something."

Chicken-hawk, Right WingNut wet dream. It's like you psychopaths want that to happen.

June 24, 2014 at 11:04 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

^^^angry teenager..hope he ain't armed.

June 24, 2014 at 11:06 a.m.

huh? It's not a stretch to think that terrorists could get a hold of a nuclear weapon. Why would I want that to happen, easy? Pakistan, Iraq, Jordan, even Saudi Arabia are all vulnerable.

June 24, 2014 at 11:13 a.m.
timbo said...

Easy123... You are really sick, you need help...

In order to protect your family, my son or daughter might have to fight. Only a mentally ill person would accuse someone of loving themselves more than their children or family. Most dads and moms would literally give their hearts to save their children. That kind of comment usually comes from someone who doesn't have children.

No one would want their children to die you idiot but that is what this country has to do sometimes to protect our way of life.

You just don't get it....you are bizarre.

By the way, THE MILITARY WON'T TAKE A 59 YEAR-OLD, OVERWEIGHT, OUT OF SHAPE, TWO KNEE REPLACEMENT, OLD GUY UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. THEY DIDN'T EVEN DO THAT IN WWII.

You on the other hand, are probably just the right age. From you stupid, immature comments I am sure you are just about right. The problem is you would probably run away screaming just like Bergdahl. Heck, you wouldn't get anywhere close to combat. What are you going to do , hit them with your pocketbook?

June 24, 2014 at 11:14 a.m.
Easy123 said...

za bloody fister,

"huh? It's not a stretch to think that terrorists could get a hold of a nuclear weapon."

Who tries to make predictions about that kind of thing?

"Why would I want that to happen, easy?"

You tell me.

"Pakistan, Iraq, Jordan, even Saudi Arabia are all vulnerable."

They aren't more vulnerable now than they have been for the last 30 years.

June 24, 2014 at 11:15 a.m.
timbo said...

zable, Dennis...We are just enabling this juvenile delinquent. He is not mature enough for an adult discussion.

June 24, 2014 at 11:18 a.m.

Yeah, timbo, guess you're right. What's the point.

June 24, 2014 at 11:20 a.m.
Easy123 said...

timboner,

"Easy123... You are really sick, you need help..."

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

"In order to protect your family, my son or daughter might have to fight."

Protect them from a hypothetical situation that you conjured up. Good luck with that.

"Only a mentally ill person would accuse someone of loving themselves more than their children or family."

I'm not the one saying I'd "readily" send my kids to die in my stead.

"Most dads and moms would literally give their hearts to save their children."

Not you. You're gung-ho about sending your kids to fight in a hypothetical war.

"That kind of comment usually comes from someone who doesn't have children."

You wouldn't know one way or the other. This is just you trying to rationalize your decision.

"No one would want their children to die you idiot but that is what this country has to do sometimes to protect our way of life."

You are ready to send your kids to a hypothetical war in which the chances of them dying would be very high. You said that, you idiot.

"You just don't get it....you are bizarre."

No, sir. YOU don't get it. YOU are bizarre.

"By the way, THE MILITARY WON'T TAKE A 59 YEAR-OLD, OVERWEIGHT, OUT OF SHAPE, TWO KNEE REPLACEMENT, OLD GUY UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. THEY DIDN'T EVEN DO THAT IS WWII."

Maybe they would during your hypothetical "all out war". Are you mad? Bwahahahahahaha! Is this your attempt at Internet yelling?

"You on the other hand, are probably just the right age. From you stupid, immature comments I am sure you are just about right."

And from your highly ignorant comments, I'd bet you're just the right type of coward to invent an imaginary war to send his own children to fight in.

"The problem is you would probably run away screaming just like Bergdahl."

You already admitted that you wouldn't fight in your imaginary war, coward.

"Heck, you wouldn't get anywhere close to combat. What are you going to do , hit them with your pocketbook?"

You already said you wouldn't get anywhere close to combat. You'd just send your kids to hit the terrorists with their pocketbooks.

June 24, 2014 at 11:24 a.m.
timbo said...

LIVE...FROM MOCCASIN BEND...IT IS THE EASY123 SHOW...STARRING...EASY123...AS ITSELF...

BIZARRE COMMENTS, JUVENILE INSULTS, AND ATTEMPTS AT INTIMIDATION.

Two questions, how does Easy123 get access to the internet at the funny farm?

What traumatic childhood experience caused him to be absolutely nuts? Or is it just genetics? Possession? psoriasis? Alcohol and drug abuse? Athlete's Foot fungus? Mental impairment? Delusions of grandeur? Just plain stupid? Or is it all of the above....

We need to send IT off for evaluation at a research university.

June 24, 2014 at 11:25 a.m.
Easy123 said...

Timboner,

"zable, Dennis...We are just enabling this juvenile delinquent. He is not mature enough for an adult discussion."

Typical. It's quite obvious you can't hang, so you resort to attacking me while figuring out a way to weasel out of "adult discussion".

No surprise. See what I mean? Exhibit A-F:

"LIVE...FROM MOCCASIN BEND...IT IS THE EASY123 SHOW...STARRING...EASY123...AS ITSELF..."

"BIZARRE COMMENTS, JUVENILE INSULTS, AND ATTEMPTS AT INTIMIDATION."

"Two questions, how does Easy123 get access to the internet at the funny farm?"

"What traumatic childhood experience caused him to be absolutely nuts? Or is it just genetics? Possession? psoriasis? Alcohol and drug abuse? Athlete's Foot fungus? Mental impairment? Delusions of grandeur? Just plain stupid? Or is it all of the above...."

"We need to send IT off for evaluation at a research university."

What happened to me being a "she"? Bwahahahahahahahaha!

June 24, 2014 at 11:26 a.m.
Easy123 said...

Now, that, is a rant.

Why are you so mad, Timboner? What's wrong, little guy? Don't stroke out, fatass.

This is ridiculously simple. There is no challenge involved. I can make you idiots absolutely soil your stockings in no time flat. Hell, Timboner is having a freaking sh!t hemorrhage!

June 24, 2014 at 11:30 a.m.

Whoa, fruitcake on the loose.

June 24, 2014 at 11:31 a.m.

LOL What a self-absorbed little girl you are, easy. As if what you say here has any impact. Go change your pads, for the love of mike, just do it.

June 24, 2014 at 11:36 a.m.
Easy123 said...

zableedipsh!t,

"LOL What a self-absorbed little girl you are, easy. As if what you say here has any impact. Go change your pads, for the love of mike, just do it."

Oblivious. To the very core of you. Completely oblivious.

How can I change my pad when I just got done giving you and your buddies the proverbial donkey slap?

June 24, 2014 at 11:38 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

^does this kid actually believe his own caca?

June 24, 2014 at 11:42 a.m.

What? I've had enough of that. I'm done responding to him.

Jack, I think so. I wonder if easy and Alprova are the same person?

June 24, 2014 at 12:41 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

Z-fister, et al, sorry but from a Christian perspective, all war is evil. There is no "good war." It is an oxymoron used by a famous Christian theologian (Augustine, 413 CE) who was trying to ensure the state (Constantine) protected Christianity. It was in fact the action that institutionalized Christianity into governance leading to Christianity's profound and deepest corruption because it changed the spiritual consideration from "Is it good for God, or does it glorify God?" to "Is it good for country, or does it glorify country?" The church became the cheerleader for government. Until that time Christianity unanimously opposed any military service in war as service to the world and Satan.

Virtually every general who has led an army in war and national leader after national leader who has governed when his/her country is at war says the same thing, war is abhorrent, has no good end, it has no winners and destroys hope and its participants. The fact that we are debating staying/leaving Iraq or destroying a population is prima facia evidence of this, We are still paying the price for WWI, and WWII.

To kill someone to protect your own family, self or possessions reduces you to the same level as your adversary.

I'm not a pacifist but rather a poor Christian who dreads having to make that choice. I have yet to hear or read a cogent defense of war based on Christian theology. There is enough violence in the world without dragging the congregation into it. Send your sons and daughters, your wife and you to fight, if you feel compelled, but leave me and my family, and God, out of it.

But this discussion has already (previously) sunk into human sewage so I doubt you will raise yourselves out of it towards, as you say, "an adult discussion."

June 24, 2014 at 12:43 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Zab: I've wondered, but I don't think they are. Similar ilk, tho.

June 24, 2014 at 1:02 p.m.
timbo said...

inquiringmind..... You said, "To kill someone to protect your own family, self or possessions reduces you to the same level as your adversary."

The difference is that if you come into my house and threaten my family, killing you is justified even in the Christian religion. You are on a higher level because they were the aggressor. Self defense is moral, it is brave, and it is your responsibility.

Forgive me, but when I hear someone advocate not fighting under any circumstance, I see that as cowardice. It is a cowards excuse,..."I am above the rest of you mortals" kind of thing. It is just a way to not make hard decisions. Anyone who would let their family die for some warped sense of Christianity is pretty irresponsible.

Fighting for this country is a responsibility that is required for you being a member of a free society. If you don't want to do that, go and buy an island of your own and then have whatever rules you want. If we used your philosophy, Christianity would no longer exist because radical Islam would eradicate it, just like they are doing in their countries now.

It is the opposite of what you said, I will not let people like you put my family at risk by your cowardice no matter what you call it. If you are serious about your religion, go to Iraq and turn the other cheek. You won't have a chance to turn it a second time.

Stop your holier than thou BS, no one believes it. I know this comes as a shock to you but your arrogant preaching to the rest of us rings pretty hollow.

June 24, 2014 at 1:58 p.m.
Ki said...

Recently read, not an exact quote but adequate:

"The destruction of Iraq is an ugly reminder of American empire"

June 24, 2014 at 2:06 p.m.
timbo said...

Ki...Iraq was a mistake and it has nothing to do with today. We need to solve the situation today, not 12 years ago.

June 24, 2014 at 2:24 p.m.

Ki, that's a stupid quote. What empire? Nice anti-American thought, but where is it? Here're two examples of Empire building, the Islamic world, and the Old Soviet Union. And for course the old British Empire, and the Roman Empire. Be real.

Yeah, inq, turning the other cheek doesn't mean sitting idly by and letting your family be slaughtered, that's cowardice.

June 24, 2014 at 2:30 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Ki: Blame American first. Yes?

June 24, 2014 at 2:33 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

timbo sez, "The difference is that if you come into my house and threaten my family, killing you is justified even in the Christian religion. "

You will have to find that teaching in the Gospel and in Christ's behavior that the Apostles urge us to emulate for me.

You also reduce the argument to a facile one. how would you avoid placing yourself in a situation where you had to choose to kill someone to protect your family?

He then sez, "Stop your holier than thou BS, no one believes it." All I can say is at least I am not re-writing the Christian Gospel to suit my prejudices.

Take a moment and really read your New Testament. I believe Jesus said something like this, "Do not fear the one who can kill the body, fear the one who can take your soul."

June 24, 2014 at 4:08 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

You may not like the message but it is His words.

June 24, 2014 at 4:09 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

And Christianity exists by one power, for one purpose and it is not a human one, nor will any human power will ever defeat it. If we could protect Christianity with our own two hands (or nukes) we would not need God or Christ, we could save ourself all by ourself.

June 24, 2014 at 4:13 p.m.
fairmon said...

Involvement in the middle east is like wiping your butt with a hoola hoop. All together now, why are we there? OIL, , OIL, OIL.

Canada just signed a contract for a pipe line enabling them to transport oil to be shipped to Asia, they were disappointed the U.S. never saw the value of the Keystone line but had to make a move in their best interest. Way to go D.A. in D.C.

June 24, 2014 at 4:26 p.m.

inq, "facile"

My gosh liberalism is a disease.

How would God look upon a father who just watched as someone killed his child, or family? Not very favorably. BO allowing the citizens of this country to be in danger by not protecting our borders seems to be ok with you libs.

Your use of Christianity to twist this is pretty transparent.

You libs love bringing up the Bible and Christ when it suits your needs, otherwise you put down Christians right and left. What about abortion, that's ok, but defending your country or family is not?

You libs love sophistry. The example of a family, or a country, being attacked as reason to go to war is a great example. Not all war is evil.

June 24, 2014 at 4:27 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Libs live in the world of la-la and feel.

June 24, 2014 at 4:46 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

z-fister yo are avoiding the question. I'm waiting for you " to find that teaching in the Gospel and in Christ's behavior that the Apostles urge us to emulate for me."

Yes all war is evil. How else can you explain that we become closest friends with the blood enemies we defeat, e.g., Germany, Japan, the South, England? The fact we were in Afghanistan is an evil consequence of WWII, the fact we are in Iraq is an evil consequence of WWII, the Israel-Arab fight is a consequence of WWII, the cold war was an evil consequnce of WWII, the fact we are t alking to Iran about Iraq, the fact we cudgel Eqypt, Saudi Arabia father of Ozamabeladen, Quatar all Sunni Muslims, ad nauseum. Not only is all war evil, it makes hypocrites of the people who promulgate them.

Thank you, abortion is a good example of your thinking. As a Christian you do not have to have one (if you are female) if you feel it violates your religious belief, you are even free to counsel others not to have one, but a citizen of the country has the right to an abortion as a legally established principle. You, like Augustine, would force your religious belief to become a state belief and impose the now state-sanctioned religious imperative on everyone. That is what Augustine of Hippo did with war and Christianity and Constantine, (It was really the other way around, Constantine needed Christian endorsement) that is what you are trying to do now. Augustine hoped his just war argument would protect Christianity, but as you show it only damaged it by allowing it to become a state-weapon of war, so today we have state-sanctioned flavors of Christian dogma imposed upon citizens, as if you can force someone to be holy.

June 24, 2014 at 4:59 p.m.
una61 said...

Escher visits Iraq.

June 24, 2014 at 5:24 p.m.

inq, you cannot call yourself a Christian and approve of abortion.

Just madness. In no way can you be a follower of Christ and be ok with abortion, law or no law. I'm not denying it's the law. What you libs don't like is when it's characterized as murdering the unborn, which it is. You seem adamant to show that Christ would not approve of war, even if it means defending your family, but do you actually believe that Christ would approve of abortion? The answer is absolutely NOT.

Nobody is stopping anyone from their "right" to an abortion.

To believe defending your family is not Christ-like, but then believe abortion would be ok with Christ is just shocking.

Violence against the unborn is ok, the most innocent of all innocent human beings, but violence in the course of defending your family is not ok?

Yeah, liberalism is a disease.

June 24, 2014 at 5:57 p.m.
fairmon said...

BREAKING NEWS.....

The Washington redskins have decided they would change their name. They are dropping the Washington, it is embarrassing to be related by the team name to it.

June 24, 2014 at 6:05 p.m.
Ki said...

-timbo, Iraq today has everything to do with the arsonistS who galloped in 12 years ago striking the match and lighing fires they damn well knew would be near impossible to put out!

June 24, 2014 at 7:18 p.m.

yeah, fairmon, that's the insulting portion of their name.

June 24, 2014 at 7:22 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

"BO allowing the citizens of this country to be in danger by not protecting our borders seems to be ok with you libs."

How are we "in danger"? I am as afraid of an "illegal alien" as I am of you, Fister. 99% of them come here to work. I think a lot of US children could learn a valuable lesson in "work ethic" from these illegals that you so fear. I swear, I honestly chuckled from reading this absurdity.

Fairmon, good one. I have only seen it about 600 times.

June 24, 2014 at 9:04 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

And all of you newfound Iraq bashers, I can only wonder how many of you that slam the Iraq War today, were cheering during the 2004 GOP Presidential Convention when they boasted about many of the strides that were made. It was thrust down the throats of the American voters. How many of you cheered when McCain criticized Obama in 2008 saying leaving Iraq was "surrendering"; that you never "Cut and Run"? My guess would be you Jack. And you Fister. And especially you Timbo. You guys are a bunch of phonies. If Obama came out tomorrow and said he was going to direct billions to finding a cure for cancer, you guys would be against cures for cancer.

June 24, 2014 at 9:10 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

You would be wrong as usual Gassy. I was never in favor of the Iraq War. You need a brush instead of the roller.

June 24, 2014 at 9:43 p.m.

Gauss, I've never been in favor of nations building.

Oh, the saintly illegal alien horde. Well, of course the stupid, lazy US children could learn do much from the illegals, after all, "the our future rests on dreamers"/illegals.

And illegal aliens have reached a status that we lowly US citizens could never attain. And of course, all the actual immigrants who come in lawfully, and properly, and respect this country, could learn something from illegals by coming in the right way, which is the wrong way.

Guass, you sanctimonious, and pompous lib.

June 24, 2014 at 9:46 p.m.
prairie_dog said...

Stepping away from a responsibility on the world stage is not like abandoning your love child to the welfare system. That's why Obama cannot understand what went wrong. It's a cultural oddity to him.

June 24, 2014 at 9:50 p.m.

Three ways that we're danger from our swiss cheese-like border: diseases, criminals/gang members, and terrorists. That's what a poorly defended border will give way to. To deny that, is just stupid and stubborn. Those are realities. There's no defending our government's neglect on this. They come in the right way, and they can someday become US citizens. Nothing wrong with our immigration policy, or with our laws. They simply need to be obeyed and enforced.

The welfare of US citizens is of primary concern. That's all that matters. Of course you nutcase libs don't see it that way. Just like you think our Constitution applies to captured terrorists as well. Liberalism is a disease.

June 24, 2014 at 9:57 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

Not a lib, Fister. I will be casting my vote for Fairbanks and Wamp in the August primary.

Again, those evil illegals might sneak up on you tonight and scare you. The only danger is these people will work for cheaper then their US counterparts. "Coming in the right way" takes years, besides they can "come in the wrong way" and easily find employment. And the people that pretend to be against illegals and contribute millions to the party against illegals are laughing all the way to the bank. When you wake up, you will see these things so much clearer.

Prairie_dog was obviously a "Mission Accomplished" and "Cut and Run" type of guy.

Jack, who did you vote for in 2004 and 2008? I rest my case.

June 24, 2014 at 10:32 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

^^and what does that have to do with McCain and cut and running? You try to force the square peg, Gassy. Everything with you is about generalizations.

June 24, 2014 at 10:54 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

"Generalizations"? That is the trademark of the GOP, Jack. If Obama likes it, you have to hate it. Nothing "square" about the peg.

June 24, 2014 at 11:08 p.m.

awww..isn't that too bad, "coming in the right way takes years". I guess because they're from Mexico and Central America it's ok for them to come in the wrong way, as opposed to everyone else around the world who has to come in the right way.

Doesn't matter if your a lib or not, you're stance is idiotic and lawless.

Disease, criminals/gang members, and terrorists. You can minimize it all you want, it's irresponsible.

Our well being matters more than the illegals need to find work and their well being. We're more important because we're citizens. It's BO's job to make sure we're defended and our borders protect us.

You called them evil, I didn't. Whatever their reasons are for invading, "love", work, drugs, relatives, screw it. We, US citizens matter more. We should be the primary concern. Illegals have been elevated over citizens by our own president. "our future rests with dreamers"/illegal alien criminals. He's disgraceful, pathetic, law less, anti-American, irresponsible, and should be impeached for endangering US citizens so his party can benefit from it. By the way there's a shortage of underwear for the invaders, do you want to donate some, Gauss? But they want 100% cotton. If they don't get it they'll complain, just like they did about the eggs they were served being cold, and the burritos not being up to their standards.

June 24, 2014 at 11:15 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

So Gassy, you voted for Gore, Kerry, and Obama twice?

June 24, 2014 at 11:28 p.m.
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