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ChrisVogel said...

In fact, the true answer is "none". Pretending to be heterosexual, on the other hand, was the strategy normally adopted in homophobic societies until recently, although it is destructive to the individual (commonly leading to suicide) and to their families, especially opposite-sexed "spouses". And, pretending it still is. We (the Council on Homosexuality and Religion) studied "ex-gays" for more than a decade, with both personal interviews and literature search including both religious and medical "cures". We collected the numerous tracts issued by, or on behalf of, those who claimed to be "cured", although the majority of these could not then be contacted. We found that the average shelf-life of being "ex" was about six months; often the paper tracts were more durable and continued to be distributed long after the individual in question was ex-"ex". This is why ex-ex gays vastly outnumber those who are claiming to be "ex". A careful study of the tracts and other published accounts shows that, without exception, they continue, in their own words, to "struggle". That is to say, they are not "ex" anything. Our conclusion was that sexual orientation (heterosexual, bisexual, homosexual) was immutable; even "God" had no effect on it. It may be uncharitable to say of those who claim to be "ex-gay" and those who "cure" them, that they are frauds, but that will undoubtedly be the judgement of history.

November 4, 2011 at 8:09 p.m.
ChrisVogel said...

In fact, the true answer is "none". Pretending to be heterosexual, on the other hand, was the strategy normally adopted in homophobic societies until recently, although it is destructive to the individual (commonly leading to suicide) and to their families, especially opposite-sexed "spouses". And, pretending it still is. We (the Council on Homosexuality and Religion) studied "ex-gays" for more than a decade, with both personal interviews and literature search including both religious and medical "cures". We collected the numerous tracts issued by, or on behalf of, those who claimed to be "cured", although the majority of these could not then be contacted. We found that the average shelf-life of being "ex" was about six months; often the paper tracts were more durable and continued to be distributed long after the individual in question was ex-"ex". This is why ex-ex gays vastly outnumber those who are claiming to be "ex". A careful study of the tracts and other published accounts shows that, without exception, they continue, in their own words, to "struggle". That is to say, they are not "ex" anything. Our conclusion was that sexual orientation (heterosexual, bisexual, homosexual) was immutable; even "God" had no effect on it. It may be uncharitable to say of those who claim to be "ex-gay" and those who "cure" them, that they are frauds, but that will undoubtedly be the judgement of history.

November 4, 2011 at 2:15 p.m.
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